PDF file

2003-10-09 Thread tivo 
May be a bit off site topic, but how do I go about changing a PDF file to
another format once it's downloaded? I don't seem to be offered any other
options but image files (there are no images in the document).

I wish to change the format and then change the document to a more condensed
form for printing (such as using Word).

I've an iBook, OSX, etc.

Thanks, Tivo


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Re: PDF file

2003-10-09 Thread Dawn Brocco 
At 8:48 AM -0700 10/9/03, tivo wrote:
May be a bit off site topic, but how do I go about changing a PDF file to
another format once it's downloaded? I don't seem to be offered any other
options but image files (there are no images in the document).
I wish to change the format and then change the document to a more condensed
form for printing (such as using Word).
I've an iBook, OSX, etc.

Thanks, Tivo
Hi Tivo,
I'll try and help.
In Acrobat, there should be an edit menu, then select all, the copy 
and paste into Word or other word processing document.

You will need to do this for each page of text in the pdf file, as 
far as I can see. I have OS 8.1 and 9, so don't know if, in  X, there 
wouldn't be an edit menu.
HTH some!
Dawn Brocco
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Re: PDF file

2003-10-09 Thread Joe Ellis 

- Original Message -
From: tivo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: PDF file


 May be a bit off site topic, but how do I go about changing a PDF file to
 another format once it's downloaded? I don't seem to be offered any other
 options but image files (there are no images in the document).

 I wish to change the format and then change the document to a more
condensed
 form for printing (such as using Word).

 I've an iBook, OSX, etc.

 Thanks, Tivo

Actually, the PDF file is more condensed than any Word file would be. That's
one of the reasons for using the PDF format on the web. If your PDF file you
downloaded seems large, it may be that it was generated from a scanned image
and if it was, you won't be able to copy the text with PDF Reader because it
really is an image. You should be able to print the file directly from PDF
Reader without going to the trouble of converting it, that's the point of
the PDF format in the first place.

Joe Ellis


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Re: PDF file

2003-10-09 Thread tivo 
 Subject: PDF file
 
 
 May be a bit off site topic, but how do I go about changing a PDF file to
 another format once it's downloaded? I don't seem to be offered any other
 options but image files (there are no images in the document).
 
 I wish to change the format and then change the document to a more
 condensed
 form for printing (such as using Word).
 
 I've an iBook, OSX, etc.
 
 Thanks, Tivo
 
 Actually, the PDF file is more condensed than any Word file would be. That's
 one of the reasons for using the PDF format on the web. If your PDF file you
 downloaded seems large, it may be that it was generated from a scanned image
 and if it was, you won't be able to copy the text with PDF Reader because it
 really is an image. You should be able to print the file directly from PDF
 Reader without going to the trouble of converting it, that's the point of
 the PDF format in the first place.
 
 Joe Ellis

Condensed may be the incorrect term for what I mean. In Word I can change
margins and utilize the entire sheet of paper to print, change fonts and
font size, and get rid of unwanted spaces. This is what I mean by condensing
-- using less paper and having more text on a sheet. 


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Re: PDF file

2003-10-09 Thread Joe Ellis 

- Original Message -
From: tivo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: PDF file


  Subject: PDF file
 
 
  May be a bit off site topic, but how do I go about changing a PDF file
to
  another format once it's downloaded? I don't seem to be offered any
other
  options but image files (there are no images in the document).
 
  I wish to change the format and then change the document to a more
  condensed
  form for printing (such as using Word).
 
  I've an iBook, OSX, etc.
 
  Thanks, Tivo
 
  Actually, the PDF file is more condensed than any Word file would be.
That's
  one of the reasons for using the PDF format on the web. If your PDF file
you
  downloaded seems large, it may be that it was generated from a scanned
image
  and if it was, you won't be able to copy the text with PDF Reader
because it
  really is an image. You should be able to print the file directly from
PDF
  Reader without going to the trouble of converting it, that's the point
of
  the PDF format in the first place.
 
  Joe Ellis

 Condensed may be the incorrect term for what I mean. In Word I can
change
 margins and utilize the entire sheet of paper to print, change fonts and
 font size, and get rid of unwanted spaces. This is what I mean by
condensing
 -- using less paper and having more text on a sheet.


Essentially, you are saying you want to re-format the document, in that case
as long as the file was generated from a text document originally, it's
copy-paste to your hearts content.
Hopefully it's not a scanned document because you would then need some kind
of OCR software.

Joe Ellis



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Re: MAC SW Re: PDF file (conversions, etc)

2003-10-09 Thread Laurent Daudelin 
on 09/10/03 18:00, James G (Jim) Hardwick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, you are going to need Acrobat, not Acrobat reader, I think, to
 do any editing.  But if all you want is to capture the text for
 transfer, AReader might work.
 
 BTW, I have had a lot of trouble with Acrobat causing my system to
 crash/hang, etc.  Happens on my g4 desktop and my Wallstreet, running
 9.2.1.  One oddity in particular, I can never shut down either mac
 without separately quitting Acrobat--it will hang the shutdown
 process EVERY time if I try to shut down with it running.
 
 Anyone else have similar problems?  I have reinstalled it so many
 times I have lost track (v4.05).

Nope. Whenever Reader doesn't behave on OS X, it is just ejected. Now,
with Panther, it seems that Preview got a very substantial speed boost, so
we may not need Reader anymore...

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Re: PDF file

2003-10-09 Thread tivo 
 Subject: PDF file
 
 
 May be a bit off site topic, but how do I go about changing a PDF file to
 another format once it's downloaded?

Thanks to everyone for the input. The PDF file did open with Acrobat --
after refusing to do so earlier; thus the reason for my writing and asking.
I have no idea why it wouldn't open earlier.

The file when chosen as an icon is revealed as a Preview file; the
document thus cannot be fiddled with in any way. When the name of the file
is highlighted (on my desktop this color is yellow) the file remains in
Finder and I can then choose to open it from the File menu using
Acrobat. 

But not a great deal is gained page printing-wise (as someone commented), at
least not with the 15 page document I was trying to compress. The PDF file
is the same number of pages, but the text font is a number of times smaller.

Thanks again to everyone, Tivo


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Re: PDF file

2003-10-09 Thread Brandy 
I was just pointing it out FYI.. thing since some people are not 
aware of it.  I use Acrobat 6 Pro. for PC and OS X
I password protect and lock all PDF's I create.  And like you said I 
don't want any one fiddling with em'.
Brandy

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Hello Brandy,
I have Acrobat Reader 4, on my desktop, which was a free version, as 
are all Acrobat Reader downloads, no?, and I can copy and paste from a 
pdf to a word processing document.
If a pdf is locked and password protected - there's a reason for that 
- they don't want the contents fiddled with. I might be wrong, but I 
don't remember the original poster saying the pdf, they were referring 
to, was password protected and locked.
Dawn


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