Re: PISMO main battery, my lombard works without battery

[Zoltan]

On May 22, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Jim Eddy wrote:
On May 18, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Mikael Byström wrote:
Andrew, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Perhaps Apple means the Lombard and Pismo can't use a two expansion  
bay
devices at once?
This is now the real question. They actually can't? Isn't that a bit
silly? I wasn't aware of it.
I don't think there are any expansion bay devices that will go into  
the left side. Only a battery AFAIK. The right will take both.

I did see a long time ago there was a HDD that came in 1gig, 2gig, and  
6gig configurations which was shaped just like the battery that was  
designed for the expansion bays in the Pismo, Lombard etc.  Perhaps  
this drive, if u could find one, might work in the left side since it's  
shaped the same?  Just a thought. . ..

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Re: PISMO main battery, my lombard works without battery

[Jim Eddy]

On May 18, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Mikael Byström wrote:
Andrew, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Perhaps Apple means the Lombard and Pismo can't use a two expansion  
bay
devices at once?
This is now the real question. They actually can't? Isn't that a bit
silly? I wasn't aware of it.
I don't think there are any expansion bay devices that will go into the  
left side. Only a battery AFAIK. The right will take both.
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Re: PISMO main battery, my lombard works without battery

[Mikael Byström]

Andrew, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>Perhaps Apple means the Lombard and Pismo can't use a two expansion bay 
>devices at once?

This is now the real question. They actually can't? Isn't that a bit
silly? I wasn't aware of it.



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Re: PISMO main battery

[Clark Martin]

At 8:48 AM -0500 5/17/04, Thomas Ethen wrote:
That would be the 3400, not the Wallstreet!
Tom

 Which is the "original PowerBook G3 Series?"

 > Wallstreet
Uh, NO.  The first in the PowerBook G3 Series is the WallStreet.  The 
"Original PowerBook G3" (no "Series") is the Kanga, AKA 3500.  The 
3400 is the version prior to that.  The 3400 uses a 603 processor, 
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Re: PISMO main battery

[malcolm cornelius]

> >> Which is the "original PowerBook G3 Series?"
> > 
> > Wallstreet

> That would be the 3400, not the Wallstreet!

The 3400 wasn't a G3.

The 3500 or Kanga was the first Powerbook G3 not Powerbook G3 Series.

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Re: PISMO main battery, my lombard works without battery

[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

>Directly from Apple support site:
>
>"The original PowerBook G3 Series has the ability
>to use two expansion bay devices and run from the
> AC adapter with no main battery installed.
>  Note: The PowerBook G3 (Bronze keyboard)and
>PowerBook (FireWire) do not have this capability."
My Lombard running OS 9.2.2 starts without the battery in (on AC).
Perhaps Apple means the Lombard and Pismo can't use a two expansion bay 
devices at once?
All my expansion bay stuff (CD, Zip, Superdisk/floppy) is asymmetric 
(will only fit the right bay).

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Re: PISMO main battery

[Thomas Ethen]

That would be the 3400, not the Wallstreet!

Tom
> 
>> Which is the "original PowerBook G3 Series?"
> 
> Wallstreet


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Re: PISMO main battery

[malcolm cornelius]

> >> "The original PowerBook G3 Series has the ability to use two expansion
> >> bay devices and run from the AC adapter with no main battery installed.
> >> Note: The PowerBook G3 (Bronze keyboard)and PowerBook (FireWire) do
> >> not have this capability."

> Which is the "original PowerBook G3 Series?" 

Wallstreet

>I know for a fact that the 
> "Wallstreet" can run both a Zip drive and a CD-ROM, no battery.

Yes that wasn't the issue.

The above was being read as stating that the Lombard/Pismo had to run a battery, I 
think it was saying that they can't run two devices

best

Malcolm

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Re: PISMO main battery

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 17/05/2004 00:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>on 17/05/04 01:24, Jeff Greffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> "The original PowerBook G3 Series has the ability to use two expansion
>> bay devices and run from the AC adapter with no main battery installed.
>> Note: The PowerBook G3 (Bronze keyboard)and PowerBook (FireWire) do
>> not have this capability."
>
>To run two devices ?
>
>They can only run one and one battery
>
>> So, Malcolm and Tom, you are saying that it is not true ?
>
>Absolutely.
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Which is the "original PowerBook G3 Series?" I know for a fact that the 
"Wallstreet" can run both a Zip drive and a CD-ROM, no battery.

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Re: PISMO main battery

[James Rohde]

On 5/16/04, Malcolm wrote:

>on 16/05/04 15:50, Jeff Greffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Told you I was new around G3 powerbooks ...
>> 
>> After a lot of searching on the net about my particular machine (pismo)
>> I found a little article that states a pismo cannot work without a main
>> battery in one of the bay  since I have no battery and only the AC
>> as my  power source, I am missing a link !
>
>I can't believe that to be true.
>
>When I build and test machines I almost never have a battery in them.
>
>I am sure I must have built and run a Pismo without a battery in it, on AC
>only.

I'd have to go with Malcolm, for the additional reason that I'm writing 
this (under 10.2.8) on my Pismo which is plugged into the AC adapter, 
with the weight-saving module in the left bay and the DVD/CDROM module in 
the right bay. Yep, dead battery and saving up for the replacement.

So from empirical evidence, yes, it is indeed possible. If your Pismo 
isn't working on AC adapter, there must be something else not working 
(flaky AC adapter or PMU or something...).

FWIW,

Jim Rohde


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Re: PISMO main battery

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 17/05/04 01:24, Jeff Greffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> "The original PowerBook G3 Series has the ability to use two expansion
> bay devices and run from the AC adapter with no main battery installed.
> Note: The PowerBook G3 (Bronze keyboard)and PowerBook (FireWire) do
> not have this capability."

To run two devices ?

They can only run one and one battery

> So, Malcolm and Tom, you are saying that it is not true ?

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Re: PISMO main battery

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on 16/05/04 17:10, Malcolm Cornelius at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 16/05/04 15:50, Jeff Greffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Told you I was new around G3 powerbooks ...
>> 
>> After a lot of searching on the net about my particular machine (pismo)
>> I found a little article that states a pismo cannot work without a main
>> battery in one of the bay  since I have no battery and only the AC
>> as my  power source, I am missing a link !
> 
> I can't believe that to be true.
> 
> When I build and test machines I almost never have a battery in them.
> 
> I am sure I must have built and run a Pismo without a battery in it, on AC
> only.

If I remove the battery from my Pismo, it continues to work on AC...

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Re: PISMO main battery

[Jeff Greffe]

Directly from Apple support site:
"The original PowerBook G3 Series has the ability to use two expansion 
bay devices and run from the AC adapter with no main battery installed.
 Note: The PowerBook G3 (Bronze keyboard)and PowerBook (FireWire) do 
not have this capability."

So, Malcolm and Tom, you are saying that it is not true ?
Jeff
On May 17, 2004, at 5:10 AM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:
on 16/05/04 15:50, Jeff Greffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Told you I was new around G3 powerbooks ...
After a lot of searching on the net about my particular machine 
(pismo)
I found a little article that states a pismo cannot work without a 
main
battery in one of the bay  since I have no battery and only the AC
as my  power source, I am missing a link !
I can't believe that to be true.
When I build and test machines I almost never have a battery in them.
I am sure I must have built and run a Pismo without a battery in it, 
on AC
only.

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Re: PISMO main battery

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 16/05/04 15:50, Jeff Greffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Told you I was new around G3 powerbooks ...
> 
> After a lot of searching on the net about my particular machine (pismo)
> I found a little article that states a pismo cannot work without a main
> battery in one of the bay  since I have no battery and only the AC
> as my  power source, I am missing a link !

I can't believe that to be true.

When I build and test machines I almost never have a battery in them.

I am sure I must have built and run a Pismo without a battery in it, on AC
only.

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Re: PISMO main battery

[Jeff Greffe]

This powerbook was bought for almost nothing, and I want to keep the 
cost down ... it will probably serve as a webcam server, or for 
crunching video files in no hurry, so it will be plugged in all the 
time.

When I am on the road, I have my TiG4 ...
so I don't need a very good battery.
Jeff
On May 16, 2004, at 10:58 PM, lily wrote:
I also have a pismo. it has a battery which won't function on its own. 
the
computer works with AC in. But I would like a battery. Why not get a 
new
battery rather than an eBay battery which might have little life in it?

Lily.
on 5/16/04 8:50 AM, Jeff Greffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Told you I was new around G3 powerbooks ...
After a lot of searching on the net about my particular machine 
(pismo)
I found a little article that states a pismo cannot work without a 
main
battery in one of the bay  since I have no battery and only the AC
as my  power source, I am missing a link !

So, down to eBay to find one of those ...
See ya !
Jeff

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Re: PISMO main battery

[lily]

I also have a pismo. it has a battery which won't function on its own. the
computer works with AC in. But I would like a battery. Why not get a new
battery rather than an eBay battery which might have little life in it?

Lily.

on 5/16/04 8:50 AM, Jeff Greffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Told you I was new around G3 powerbooks ...
> 
> After a lot of searching on the net about my particular machine (pismo)
> I found a little article that states a pismo cannot work without a main
> battery in one of the bay  since I have no battery and only the AC
> as my  power source, I am missing a link !
> 
> So, down to eBay to find one of those ...
> 
> See ya !
> 
> Jeff
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PISMO main battery

[Jeff Greffe]

Told you I was new around G3 powerbooks ...
After a lot of searching on the net about my particular machine (pismo) 
I found a little article that states a pismo cannot work without a main 
battery in one of the bay  since I have no battery and only the AC 
as my  power source, I am missing a link !

So, down to eBay to find one of those ...
See ya !
Jeff
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