Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-09-04 Thread csean
on 02-09-2003 21:30, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My Yo-Yo adapter for my Pismo 400 (purchased new right after the first
 TiBooks came out) died about five months ago (and I was ALWAYS very careful
 with it). Since that time, I have been using the adapter from my old
 1400c/166 with absolutely no problems whatsoever. It charges (what's left)
 of the battery, doesn't run warm and basically provides exactly the same
 behavior as the Yo-Yo did.
 
 An Apple tech told me the adapter would work just fine, at it appears to be
 doing so.

At home, I use a Powerbook 3400 adapter with my Pismo 500 and I like it a
lot. It has a large brick that you plug a standard IT plug into, which
lets me use it with my APS surge protector (the type that provides 5
female-type plugs, with a switch for each connected computer or peripheral).
The brick has a 3-prong male socket and takes the same female type plug you
use with older computer peripherals (external CD burner, scanner, etc.) and
with desktop Macs. Never had any problems, and they're pretty cheap to buy.

After having read several reports on problems with the yo-yo, I used it
occasionally on the road, but I never wound the cord up like a yo-yo.

Chris


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Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-09-04 Thread Thomas Ethen
I had both of my Yo-Yo adapters replaced by Apple and have had no problems
with the new ones at all. I also do not wind up the cord and just put them
away like you would any other item with a long cord, as it looked to me like
the winding caused quite a bit of stress on the cord where it met the
adapter.

Tom


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Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-09-02 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 9/1/03 6:24 PM, Jackie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the
Cybertrough:
 I always thought it was for just the bricks, too, but I personally know
 3 Pismo owners who had their yo-yo adapters replaced by Apple. They
 filled in their Powerbook serial number and Apple deemed that they
 qualified. Could have been Apple's mistake, I guess, but I think it
 would refuse you if you didn't qualify.
 
 Since the Pismo came out in about Feb. 2000, maybe some of the yo-yo's
 were affected?

No.  I am an Apple Service Tech (for a living) and I run serial numbers
through GSX all day long.  I know about every return program before any end
user does.  It was only the Brick adapters that were covered.  The yo-yo
adapters break if people are rough with them.  Apple covered some users with
yo-yo's because their serial number fell in a range that they were unable to
verify if they had the old or new AC adapter.  So they covered them anyway,
and people mistakenly went out of their way to return a yo-yo adapter and
got the exact same model in return.  I have one that came with a Pismo 400
and it still works great.  I have seen many with the same tell-tale
breakage.  The cable pulls out of the yo-yo part of the adapter.  It's from
people unwinding them *literally* like a yo-yo.

What is most likely is that Apple is replacing them just to be nice and to
further future relationships with customers.  I've seen more obviously
damaged units repaired in weirder situations.
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Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-09-01 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 8/31/03 6:04 PM, Jackie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the
Cybertrough:

 
 Greetings,
 
 The yo-yo adaptor on my pismo died today. For the last week or so I've
 noticed that it's been very particular about sending power to the
 machine, even when it appeared to be plugged in (at both ends). After
 some experimentation with a multimeter and checking the specifications
 for various Apple power adaptors, I've found that the power adaptor for
 a 1400/cs --- model no. M4896 ---  is a (temporary?) solution. The
 machine is running fine and appears to be charging the battery.
 
 
 Some of the Pismos qualify for a new yo-yo adaptor under a U.S. Apple
 exchange program. This includes PowerBook G3 systems shipped from May
 1998 until March 2000.
 
 Anyone who owns a Wallstreet, Lombard, or Pismo should check to see if
 their Powerbook adapter qualifies for the exchange. There is a chance it
 could be a fire hazard. 6 adapters have overheated, with no injuries reported.

That was for the Brick style adapter..not the Yo yo.
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Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-09-01 Thread Jackie

  Some of the Pismos qualify for a new yo-yo adaptor under a U.S. Apple
  exchange program. This includes PowerBook G3 systems shipped from May
  1998 until March 2000.
 
  Anyone who owns a Wallstreet, Lombard, or Pismo should check to see if
  their Powerbook adapter qualifies for the exchange. There is a chance it
  could be a fire hazard. 6 adapters have overheated, with no injuries reported.
 
 That was for the Brick style adapter..not the Yo yo.
 --
 Kyle H. Hansen

I always thought it was for just the bricks, too, but I personally know
3 Pismo owners who had their yo-yo adapters replaced by Apple. They
filled in their Powerbook serial number and Apple deemed that they
qualified. Could have been Apple's mistake, I guess, but I think it
would refuse you if you didn't qualify.

Since the Pismo came out in about Feb. 2000, maybe some of the yo-yo's
were affected?

Jackie

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Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-08-31 Thread Brian Burge Hendrix
Greetings,

The yo-yo adaptor on my pismo died today. For the last week or so I've 
noticed that it's been very particular about sending power to the 
machine, even when it appeared to be plugged in (at both ends). After 
some experimentation with a multimeter and checking the specifications 
for various Apple power adaptors, I've found that the power adaptor for 
a 1400/cs --- model no. M4896 ---  is a (temporary?) solution. The 
machine is running fine and appears to be charging the battery.

Two questions:

1. Is running off the 1400/cs adaptor a bad idea? I needed to do so for 
at least long enough to transfer some important files from the pismo to 
my ipod in case the machine has further problems. Apple's support site 
says the pismo takes 1.2 (1.3?) amps, but the adaptor that came with it 
was labelled as giving 1.87 or so amps ... just like the 1400/cs 
adaptor. The older G3 powerbooks are listed as being compatible with 
the 1400/cs adaptor, but the G3 (firewire) isn't. So, should I stop 
using the 1400/cs adaptor immediately?

2. Where might one buy an inexpensive, durable power brick for the 
pismo. Apple Canada wants $140 for a new yo-yo adaptor, and I don't 
trust the design of that particular adaptor. I searched the list 
archives, but I couldn't come up with a search term that worked, even 
though I'm certain that I've heard this problem mentioned several times.

Email responses would be best if I'm putting my pismo at risk by 
running on the 1400/cs adaptor, since I'm getting list digests.

Thanks,
  Brian
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Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-08-31 Thread Nick
I had the same problem, that Yoyo sucks.  I'm on my second one in 3 years.
Got a repllacement from an Apple dealer for CA$120.

N

on 8/31/03 2:04 AM, Brian Burge Hendrix at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 The yo-yo adaptor on my pismo died today. For the last week or so I've
 noticed that it's been very particular about sending power to the
 machine, even when it appeared to be plugged in (at both ends). After
 some experimentation with a multimeter and checking the specifications
 for various Apple power adaptors, I've found that the power adaptor for
 a 1400/cs --- model no. M4896 ---  is a (temporary?) solution. The
 machine is running fine and appears to be charging the battery.
 
 Two questions:
 
 1. Is running off the 1400/cs adaptor a bad idea? I needed to do so for
 at least long enough to transfer some important files from the pismo to
 my ipod in case the machine has further problems. Apple's support site
 says the pismo takes 1.2 (1.3?) amps, but the adaptor that came with it
 was labelled as giving 1.87 or so amps ... just like the 1400/cs
 adaptor. The older G3 powerbooks are listed as being compatible with
 the 1400/cs adaptor, but the G3 (firewire) isn't. So, should I stop
 using the 1400/cs adaptor immediately?
 
 2. Where might one buy an inexpensive, durable power brick for the
 pismo. Apple Canada wants $140 for a new yo-yo adaptor, and I don't
 trust the design of that particular adaptor. I searched the list
 archives, but I couldn't come up with a search term that worked, even
 though I'm certain that I've heard this problem mentioned several times.
 
 Email responses would be best if I'm putting my pismo at risk by
 running on the 1400/cs adaptor, since I'm getting list digests.
 
 Thanks,
  Brian
 


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Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-08-31 Thread Richard Orlin
Try eBay. They usually sell for around $40.
On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 07:35  AM, Nick wrote:
I had the same problem, that Yoyo sucks.  I'm on my second one in 3 
years.
Got a repllacement from an Apple dealer for CA$120.

N

on 8/31/03 2:04 AM, Brian Burge Hendrix at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greetings,

The yo-yo adaptor on my pismo died today. For the last week or so I've
noticed that it's been very particular about sending power to the
machine, even when it appeared to be plugged in (at both ends). After
some experimentation with a multimeter and checking the specifications
for various Apple power adaptors, I've found that the power adaptor 
for
a 1400/cs --- model no. M4896 ---  is a (temporary?) solution. The
machine is running fine and appears to be charging the battery.

Two questions:

1. Is running off the 1400/cs adaptor a bad idea? I needed to do so 
for
at least long enough to transfer some important files from the pismo 
to
my ipod in case the machine has further problems. Apple's support site
says the pismo takes 1.2 (1.3?) amps, but the adaptor that came with 
it
was labelled as giving 1.87 or so amps ... just like the 1400/cs
adaptor. The older G3 powerbooks are listed as being compatible with
the 1400/cs adaptor, but the G3 (firewire) isn't. So, should I stop
using the 1400/cs adaptor immediately?

2. Where might one buy an inexpensive, durable power brick for the
pismo. Apple Canada wants $140 for a new yo-yo adaptor, and I don't
trust the design of that particular adaptor. I searched the list
archives, but I couldn't come up with a search term that worked, even
though I'm certain that I've heard this problem mentioned several 
times.

Email responses would be best if I'm putting my pismo at risk by
running on the 1400/cs adaptor, since I'm getting list digests.
Thanks,
 Brian


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Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-08-31 Thread Paul Nicholson
On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 10:49 AM, Kyle Hansen wrote:
The YoYo adapters only break when people are rough with them and the 
cord
pulls out from the circular part.  If yo treat your stuff that harshly 
that
you have gone through 2 in 3 years don't bother getting another one.
Madsonline makes a great model PS for the Pismo and it is much more 
durable.

SInce it's already broken, split it apart and see if you can fix it. 
The brick on my WallStreet failed and it was simply the DC output cord 
connection to the brick. I split it apart (it will never be as pretty 
as it was), stripped and soldered the DC cord, made a new strain relief 
with a gob of black silicon rubber, and put the case back together with 
cyanoacralate glue.

Paul

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Re: Powerbook (firewire) power adaptor failure

2003-08-31 Thread Jackie

 Greetings,
 
 The yo-yo adaptor on my pismo died today. For the last week or so I've
 noticed that it's been very particular about sending power to the
 machine, even when it appeared to be plugged in (at both ends). After
 some experimentation with a multimeter and checking the specifications
 for various Apple power adaptors, I've found that the power adaptor for
 a 1400/cs --- model no. M4896 ---  is a (temporary?) solution. The
 machine is running fine and appears to be charging the battery.
 

Some of the Pismos qualify for a new yo-yo adaptor under a U.S. Apple
exchange program. This includes PowerBook G3 systems shipped from May
1998 until March 2000. 

Anyone who owns a Wallstreet, Lombard, or Pismo should check to see if
their Powerbook adapter qualifies for the exchange. There is a chance it
could be a fire hazard. 6 adapters have overheated, with no injuries reported.

http://exchange.info.apple.com/exchange/

Jackie

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