Re: Pricing Advice Follow-Up

[Mark Benson]

On Wednesday, Jun 4, 2003, at 04:44 Europe/London, Peter Graening wrote:

I can't wait... This 1Ghz TiBook may be obsolete come July
14, but at least it will last me as long as my Pismo, I hope.  And 
hopefully
the Pismo will follow my brother through high school.  And I'm turning 
him
into a Mac user!
I don't know how you define 'obsolete' but my definition is 'no longer 
supported'. I don't think I would therefore class any G3 or G4 machine 
(apart maybe from the original G3 PB) as obsolete.

The 1GHz G4 PB may cease to be a *current model* on July 14th. That 
however does not make it obsolete. That said most rumors say the 
current 15" G4 TiPB form factor may be being abandoned and upgraded to 
allow for the enhancements seen in the 17" and 12" models. Even so it's 
still very much supported by Apple, still in warranty and still viable 
for an AppleCare warranty extension.

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Re: Pricing Advice Follow-Up

[Scott Howe]

Ahh! Gotcha. I've just been hearing so many different
rumors I wasn't sure if something concrete was
floating around in this discussion! Thanks!

Scott
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> > > Pismo, I hope. 
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> > Did I miss something? Whats happening July 14? 
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Re: Pricing Advice Follow-Up

[Peter Graening]

Scott Howe writes: 

> --- Peter Graening <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
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>  This 1Ghz TiBook 
> > may be obsolete come July 
> > 14, but at least it will last me as long as my 
> > Pismo, I hope. 
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> Did I miss something? Whats happening July 14? 
> 
> 
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Re: Pricing Advice

[Robert Benjamin Johnston]

On 6/5/03 7:20 AM, "Jon Glass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 6/4/03 7:29 PM, Robert Benjamin Johnston at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> I'd also consider saving the web page from that site to my personal hard
>> drive.  There was a similar page up on a German site for a while, once they
>> got enough hits, they took it off and now charge you $9.95 to download the
>> take apart plans. I can't post the link for that site because I think they
>> also offer technical manuals.
> 
> Is the the web site?
> 
> 



Yes it is!  Thanks Jon, I appreciate it.  And I got to say I really like
this mailing list.  The time I spend reading it is more than made up for by
the time I save looking for answers on the Net.

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Re: Pricing Advice Follow-Up

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> Pismo, I hope. 
 

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Re: Pricing Advice

[Jon Glass]

on 6/4/03 7:29 PM, Robert Benjamin Johnston at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> I'd also consider saving the web page from that site to my personal hard
> drive.  There was a similar page up on a German site for a while, once they
> got enough hits, they took it off and now charge you $9.95 to download the
> take apart plans. I can't post the link for that site because I think they
> also offer technical manuals.

Bother, I sent that too soon, I meant, is this the content that was once
_on_ that web site? I don't think it is the web site, because it doesn't
contain the other things you mentioned. It is just the disassembly of the
various models with photos... I wonder now if somebody ripped it?
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Re: Pricing Advice

[Jon Glass]

on 6/4/03 7:29 PM, Robert Benjamin Johnston at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> I'd also consider saving the web page from that site to my personal hard
> drive.  There was a similar page up on a German site for a while, once they
> got enough hits, they took it off and now charge you $9.95 to download the
> take apart plans. I can't post the link for that site because I think they
> also offer technical manuals.

Is the the web site?


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Re: Pricing Advice

[Robert Benjamin Johnston]

On 6/4/03 8:47 AM, "Tim Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 4, 2003 at 7:11 am -0500, Robert Benjamin Johnston wrote:
> 
>> Finally that sound board needs to come out.  If your brother is going to
>> whack on that Pismo he's going to need some tools from Radio Shack or
>> wherever.  He will also need to look at this link.
>> http://www.powerbooktech.com/knowledge.fib?state=f5c2597f52_10892
> 
> Ben, that's a seriously useful site - thanks!
> 
> TimH
> 
I'd also consider saving the web page from that site to my personal hard
drive.  There was a similar page up on a German site for a while, once they
got enough hits, they took it off and now charge you $9.95 to download the
take apart plans. I can't post the link for that site because I think they
also offer technical manuals.

Take care,
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Re: Pricing Advice

[Tim Hodgson]

On Wed, Jun 4, 2003 at 7:11 am -0500, Robert Benjamin Johnston wrote:

>Finally that sound board needs to come out.  If your brother is going to
>whack on that Pismo he's going to need some tools from Radio Shack or
>wherever.  He will also need to look at this link.
>http://www.powerbooktech.com/knowledge.fib?state=f5c2597f52_10892

Ben, that's a seriously useful site - thanks!

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Re: Pricing Advice

[Robert Benjamin Johnston]

On 6/3/03 7:14 PM, "Peter Graening" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello folks,
> I'm planning on selling my Pismo, as I have a 1Ghz 15" on hold at the Apple
> Store.  I'm obviously going to use the proceeds from this sale to reach the
> goal for the TiBook.  Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone could give me an
> idea of a fair price... The specs are like this:
> 
> Pismo 400MHz
> 512MB RAM
> 40GB 5400rpm IBM Travelstar 40GNX HD (bought for $149, only a month old)
> DVD module
> Zip 100 drive module
> 4 zip disks
> Original box, original CDs
> BTi AC adapter
> 
> There are a few problems, like... For example, it has no port cover in the
> rear, and there is a small scratch in the polarizer.  And the sound has been
> on the fritz.  Can you guess why I'm trying to get a new notebook?
> 
> I have a 2.5" 20GB external FireWire hard drive that might also go with it,
> and also possibly a 5.25" FireWire enclosure, plus the cables.
> 
> First off, this might go to my brother for whatever amount ends up being
> what I need to cover the rest of the amount needed to get the TiBook.  (I
> have $1800 spread over a monthly payroll deduction, but that obviously isn't
> enough.)
> 
> What's the advice?  Give it to my brother, or be a filthy capitalist and try
> to sell it to the highest bidder?  My feeling is I could get at least $500,
> maybe more, but I could be optimistic.
> 
> Thanks,
> Peter
> 
Peter,

I know you've already given it to your brother, but just for future
reference if you'd like the current market rate on just about anything,
including a Pismo-- go to eBay-->My eBay-->Search-->Advanced Search-->
Completed Items Only.  This will give you the final price on all items that
were sold on eBay matching that description.  So, you don't have to sort
through auctions that are not completed.  This is pretty helpful if you are
trying to figure out what something is worth, whether you are selling it ,
submitting an insurance claim, getting tax information, etc., etc.

Finally that sound board needs to come out.  If your brother is going to
whack on that Pismo he's going to need some tools from Radio Shack or
wherever.  He will also need to look at this link.
http://www.powerbooktech.com/knowledge.fib?state=f5c2597f52_10892

Any is he really has too much time to kill, check out the stuff at
Applefritter.
http://www.applefritter.com/hacks/laptops.html

Hope he enjoys his new computer,
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Re: Pricing Advice

[Jim Eddy]

On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 09:55 PM, Todd Ruch wrote:

On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 05:14 PM, Peter Graening wrote:

Hello folks,
I'm planning on selling my Pismo, as I have a 1Ghz 15" on hold at the  
Apple
Store.  I'm obviously going to use the proceeds from this sale to  
reach the
goal for the TiBook.  Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone could give me  
an
idea of a fair price... The specs are like this:

Pismo 400MHz
512MB RAM
40GB 5400rpm IBM Travelstar 40GNX HD (bought for $149, only a month  
old)
DVD module
Zip 100 drive module
4 zip disks
Original box, original CDs

Be a filthy capitalist; this is America after all, and we wouldn't  
want the rest of the world hating us for nothing.  If you have the  
skills, you could buy a sound board on ebay (about 40-80$) and replace  
that (keeping in mind that it is the last board to come out of the PB,  
you have to completely take apart the bottom to get at it).  Then you  
could probably sell it for about $850.
That sounds high. I bought my Pismo 400 (256MB/6Gig) in perfect  
condition for a little over $600 6 weeks ago. It was a good price, but  
not unusual. The best thing is to check completed auctions for that  
machine on eBay to see the range of prices.

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Re: Pricing Advice Follow-Up

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on 6/4/03 5:44 AM, Peter Graening at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> So, I decided to forgo anything risky and just struck a deal with my
> brother.  He's in high school, so I think a laptop computer, especially one
> as powerful as a Pismo still is, will be a good tool for him, and I'm hoping
> it will motivate him.

And, if he is willing, he could learn something about the innards of the
Pismo, and do a board replacement himself. :-) He might just find his life's
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Pricing Advice Follow-Up

[Peter Graening]

Hello fellow listers:
Thanks for the advice provided in such a limited amount of time.
Fortunately, things turned out to be a little more fortunate that I
expected.  My parents are going to help cover most of the extra expense, so
selling the PowerBook actually became less of an issue than it was at the
beginning.

So, I decided to forgo anything risky and just struck a deal with my
brother.  He's in high school, so I think a laptop computer, especially one
as powerful as a Pismo still is, will be a good tool for him, and I'm hoping
it will motivate him.

Plus, I can swap out the nice 5400rpm drive into my new laptop, which makes
me super happy!  I can't wait... This 1Ghz TiBook may be obsolete come July
14, but at least it will last me as long as my Pismo, I hope.  And hopefully
the Pismo will follow my brother through high school.  And I'm turning him
into a Mac user!

Peter


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Re: Pricing Advice

[Thomas Ethen]

Put it on ebay with a $500 reserve and see where it goes! You may be
pleasantly surprised, but then I just picked one up with no problems for
$700 0n ebay. The 5400 rpm drive should bring the price up a bit and I would
expect you would get at least $600 for it, even with the problems you
listed.

Tom
> I've had one of these apart, and I'd have to argue against the sound
> board replacement - too much time and trouble. I'd ask $750 and be
> happy with $650-$700. You could also part it out, and probably get
> more, but that avenue takes time and patience.  Best of luck . . .


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Re: Pricing Advice

[Richard Smykla]

Peter,

I've had one of these apart, and I'd have to argue against the sound 
board replacement - too much time and trouble. I'd ask $750 and be 
happy with $650-$700. You could also part it out, and probably get 
more, but that avenue takes time and patience.  Best of luck . . .

Rick

On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 05:14 PM, Peter Graening wrote:

Hello folks,
I'm planning on selling my Pismo, as I have a 1Ghz 15" on hold at the Apple
Store.  I'm obviously going to use the proceeds from this sale to reach the
goal for the TiBook.  Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone could give me an
idea of a fair price... The specs are like this:
Pismo 400MHz
512MB RAM
40GB 5400rpm IBM Travelstar 40GNX HD (bought for $149, only a month old)
DVD module
Zip 100 drive module
4 zip disks
Original box, original CDs
Be a filthy capitalist; this is America after all, and we wouldn't 
want the rest of the world hating us for nothing.  If you have the 
skills, you could buy a sound board on ebay (about 40-80$) and 
replace that (keeping in mind that it is the last board to come out 
of the PB, you have to completely take apart the bottom to get at 
it).  Then you could probably sell it for about $850.

Todd



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Re: Pricing Advice

[Todd Ruch]

On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 05:14 PM, Peter Graening wrote:

Hello folks,
I'm planning on selling my Pismo, as I have a 1Ghz 15" on hold at the 
Apple
Store.  I'm obviously going to use the proceeds from this sale to 
reach the
goal for the TiBook.  Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone could give me 
an
idea of a fair price... The specs are like this:

Pismo 400MHz
512MB RAM
40GB 5400rpm IBM Travelstar 40GNX HD (bought for $149, only a month 
old)
DVD module
Zip 100 drive module
4 zip disks
Original box, original CDs

Be a filthy capitalist; this is America after all, and we wouldn't want 
the rest of the world hating us for nothing.  If you have the skills, 
you could buy a sound board on ebay (about 40-80$) and replace that 
(keeping in mind that it is the last board to come out of the PB, you 
have to completely take apart the bottom to get at it).  Then you could 
probably sell it for about $850.

Todd

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Pricing Advice

[Peter Graening]

Hello folks,
I'm planning on selling my Pismo, as I have a 1Ghz 15" on hold at the Apple
Store.  I'm obviously going to use the proceeds from this sale to reach the
goal for the TiBook.  Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone could give me an
idea of a fair price... The specs are like this:

Pismo 400MHz
512MB RAM
40GB 5400rpm IBM Travelstar 40GNX HD (bought for $149, only a month old)
DVD module
Zip 100 drive module
4 zip disks
Original box, original CDs
BTi AC adapter

There are a few problems, like... For example, it has no port cover in the
rear, and there is a small scratch in the polarizer.  And the sound has been
on the fritz.  Can you guess why I'm trying to get a new notebook?

I have a 2.5" 20GB external FireWire hard drive that might also go with it,
and also possibly a 5.25" FireWire enclosure, plus the cables.

First off, this might go to my brother for whatever amount ends up being
what I need to cover the rest of the amount needed to get the TiBook.  (I
have $1800 spread over a monthly payroll deduction, but that obviously isn't
enough.)

What's the advice?  Give it to my brother, or be a filthy capitalist and try
to sell it to the highest bidder?  My feeling is I could get at least $500,
maybe more, but I could be optimistic.

Thanks,
Peter


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