Re: Intel IMacs
... I've reached the end of computing altogether. Once my Pismo is officially unofficial and is forced into retirement, so will I. It's been fun! Why should your Pismo be forced into retirement once it is no longer supported by Apple? Will the programs you installed on it and which do the work you want them to do, suddenly stop working? I'm working with a Wallstreet and a beige G3 MT both running Mac OS 8.6. I have alle the programs I need for these machines and they both do the work I want them to do. And this will continue even when Apple stops supporting the classic Mac OS or changes to Intel Macs Frankly, I can't understand why people complain about the move to Intel processors or the end of Classic support -- it doesn't affect my computers or my computing habits in the least. Udo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:17 PM -0500 01/11/2006, Michael Cangelosi wrote: Interesting; with this switch to the beginning of abandoning Classic (not only booting to OS9 but rather the entire software that runs under classic) 10.4.X will probably be the last OSX that will include any support for classic at all. My instinct is to hope you're wrong. But since Jobs has been known to rip out working software/support for things... You're probably right. I also wouldn't be shocked if Leopard (10.5) dropped support for a number of older Macs, perhaps even all the G3's. - Dan. Well then. . . looks like the day is almost here. Guess I'm heading down to have my Pismo fitted for a tombstone. I knew this was going to happen, just wish Jobs would slow down. I saw the new Intel Macs and yawned. Frankly, I don't care. It's just another give Jobs more money scheme. He didn't make enough with the iPods, not enough with the Mini. . . not even enough with the Nano. So, now it's time to up the anti and get Intel in to help. This is a brilliant money move, since now people like me; people who are satisfied with their older machine that runs the newest of the new today, with be forced to upgrade. I don't think I'm going to this time. I spent over $3,000.00 for my Pismo the day it came out. I spent over $5,000.00 for the PowerMac 9500 (may it rest in peace) the day it came out. I believe I've reached the end of computing altogether. Once my Pismo is officially unofficial and is forced into retirement, so will I. It's been fun! Zoltan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
On Jan 12, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: It's just another give Jobs more money scheme. He didn't make enough with the iPods, not enough with the Mini. . . not even enough with the Nano. Oh, so Apple should just stop making anything new? So, now it's time to up the anti and get Intel in to help. This is a brilliant money move, since now people like me; people who are satisfied with their older machine that runs the newest of the new today, with be forced to upgrade. What? Change happens. Nothing in this is going to make your Pismo or mine drop dead tomorrow. Do I understand that if you had had a Lombard instead of a Pismo, you would have given up when 10.4 was released? Or when 8.5 came out and your Mac II no longer worked? Perhaps when 7.6 came out and you could no longer use it with your Mac 128K? You know, Apple dropped support for the Apple ][ decades ago. I probably should have forgone this entire Mac thing, it's just a passing fad. ...come to think of it, I was forced to buy an Apple ][ AND a disk drive when they came out with DOS3.3! Damned greedheads! It's a fact of life that computers become obsolescent. They do so faster than almost any other consumer product, a consequence of their relative youth as a device, and the staggeringly rapid pace of development. They're not doing this just to force you to buy a new Mac; it's not like OS X runs just fine on a Mac 128K and they're just evil bastards who want you to give them your money. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
Zoltan wrote, Guess I'm heading down to have my Pismo fitted for a tombstone. I knew this was going to happen, just wish Jobs would slow down...I believe I've reached the end of computing altogether. Once my Pismo is 'officially unofficial' and is forced into retirement, so will I. It's been fun! I just don't understand this way of thinking. I, too, am a devoted Pismo user and my 9500 is sitting beside me (though I'm writing this on my HP WinXP machine) running like clockwork with a G3-500/750 and 1 GB RAM under MacOS 9.1 -- it has not been rebooted in so long I don't even remember when I last rebooted it. Sure, it was an expensive machine when it was new, but that cost has been amortized over several years and has been no more than the cumulative expense of several PeeCees that have rotated into/out of this place in the interim. My Pismo still goes with me on travels and I even enjoy responding to the occasional query, Why is the Apple upside down? (I just reach up, start to close the lid and say, Looks the right way to me!) But, in the time I've had the 9500 and (later) the Pismo, I've bought at least three cars--but I ain't stopped driving, yet. Everything comes and goes. That's life. My wife wanted a desklamp iMac, then the new iteration, and now, she has decided she wants a MacBook Pro (I can't win--I use the old stuff, she gets the new stuff...but that's OK, 'cause when I take care of her, she takes care of me, ;-). Zoltan...suck it up, dude. Sell the Pismo for a few hundred $$ and use the money to offset the cost of a new MacBook Pro--and if the Intels make you yawn, then get the G4 Powerbook (for the same price) -- you'll still be using it in 2012 running OS X.94.x Pussycat (and my friend, THAT is cheap computing. Try that with a Dell or even an HP running under XP-Vista New Generation or whatever stupid name it will go by!). I can't wait to buy my next car (or my wife's next Mac!)...and I'm not a rich man. That's just the cost of doing business. rb == San Bernardino PS Zoltan, your don't need to have your Pismo fitted for a tombstone; our Pismos ARE tombstones. Matter of fact, I think I just figured out how to save on the cost of a memorial stone to be able to afford my wife's new MacBook Pro. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
On 1/12/06, Howard Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Myself, I'd rather use an Apple product, regardless of any personal view of specific personnel there, than the wintel boxes I have to use at work. And I'm happy with my 520c, 5300, and AL G4--as well as my //e--they have function and usability for me. Will I get a new machine in the future? Probably. Doesn't mean I wish Apple ill for doing what they have to--expanding their line and their customer base. One thing I like Apple for is that they will use the new stuff, and if something that seems to be better comes along they will use it. One thing I hate about PCs is the amount of legacy hardware they have. It's rare where a computer company has the bravery to make major changes in their lines. -- Larry there are three things to cry for in life - things that are lost, things that are found, and things that are magnificent.~douglas coupland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.roadtobabylon.org http://www.citruspub.net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
I'm a devoted Lombard user, writing this on said Lombard, and I have to agree with R.P. on this. Then again, I did as much with my 190 for as long as I could before getting my Lombard a month ago. With a G4 upgrade and maxxed-out RAM, the ol' Lombard will serve me through my senior year of High School, as my primary machine, and another few years after that as a writing/notes machine for when I won't want to drag my will-be MacBook with me. :-) Caleb P.S. It's only going to be another two years for the Lombard, so I figure it can make the most of Jag in that time. CSC On Thursday, Jan 12, 2006, at 11:14 America/Chicago, R. P. Bell wrote: I just don't understand this way of thinking. I, too, am a devoted Pismo user and my 9500 is sitting beside me (though I'm writing this on my HP WinXP machine) running like clockwork with a G3-500/750 and 1 GB RAM under MacOS 9.1 -- it has not been rebooted in so long I don't even remember when I last rebooted it. Sure, it was an expensive machine when it was new, but that cost has been amortized over several years and has been no more than the cumulative expense of several PeeCees that have rotated into/out of this place in the interim. My Pismo still goes with me on travels and I even enjoy responding to the occasional query, Why is the Apple upside down? (I just reach up, start to close the lid and say, Looks the right way to me!) But, in the time I've had the 9500 and (later) the Pismo, I've bought at least three cars--but I ain't stopped driving, yet. Everything comes and goes. That's life. My wife wanted a desklamp iMac, then the new iteration, and now, she has decided she wants a MacBook Pro (I can't win--I use the old stuff, she gets the new stuff...but that's OK, 'cause when I take care of her, she takes care of me, ;-). Zoltan...suck it up, dude. Sell the Pismo for a few hundred $$ and use the money to offset the cost of a new MacBook Pro--and if the Intels make you yawn, then get the G4 Powerbook (for the same price) -- you'll still be using it in 2012 running OS X.94.x Pussycat (and my friend, THAT is cheap computing. Try that with a Dell or even an HP running under XP-Vista New Generation or whatever stupid name it will go by!). I can't wait to buy my next car (or my wife's next Mac!)...and I'm not a rich man. That's just the cost of doing business. rb == San Bernardino PS Zoltan, your don't need to have your Pismo fitted for a tombstone; our Pismos ARE tombstones. Matter of fact, I think I just figured out how to save on the cost of a memorial stone to be able to afford my wife's new MacBook Pro. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
Tom Ethen wrote: I am at MacWorld and the new Intel IMacs are great and fast and according to the Apple people here, they will run all the old software from X. Will the new Intel IMacs run the old 9.0 software like my powerbook does ? I would not want to invest in new versions of Photoshop 7.0, Windows for the Mac, etc. Woody -- Woody, Retired in Albuquerque mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping) http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html Ordering Address: PO Box 91703 Albuquerque, NM87199-1703 “The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.” from: “Art Fear” Woody's Watercolor Portfolio: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html Newest Fantastic Triplet Pics: http://www.taospaint.com/Kansas05/Christmas.html My newest watercolors: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Beach/Watercolors.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
On 11/01/06 11:10, Woody Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Ethen wrote: I am at MacWorld and the new Intel IMacs are great and fast and according to the Apple people here, they will run all the old software from X. Will the new Intel IMacs run the old 9.0 software like my powerbook does ? I would not want to invest in new versions of Photoshop 7.0, Windows for the Mac, etc. Classic is not supported on Intel-based Macintosh. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
At 9:10 AM -0700 01/11/2006, Woody Duncan wrote: Tom Ethen wrote: I am at MacWorld and the new Intel IMacs are great and fast and according to the Apple people here, they will run all the old software from X. Will the new Intel IMacs run the old 9.0 software like my powerbook does ? I would not want to invest in new versions of Photoshop 7.0, Windows for the Mac, etc. No. Classic is not supported by Rosetta. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
My Reply follows quote. On 11/01/2006 08:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Tom Ethen wrote: I am at MacWorld and the new Intel IMacs are great and fast and according to the Apple people here, they will run all the old software from X. Will the new Intel IMacs run the old 9.0 software like my powerbook does ? I would not want to invest in new versions of Photoshop 7.0, Windows for the Mac, etc. Woody --- And the answer is: Who knows! The statement has been made that if the application needs Classic to run, then it will not run on the new machines. If it runs under the latest versions of OS X, then it will run on the new machines. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
Interesting; with this switch to the beginning of abandoning Classic (not only booting to OS9 but rather the entire software that runs under classic) 10.4.X will probably be the last OSX that will include any support for classic at all. MC -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:13 PM To: G-Books Subject: Re: Intel IMacs My Reply follows quote. On 11/01/2006 08:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Tom Ethen wrote: I am at MacWorld and the new Intel IMacs are great and fast and according to the Apple people here, they will run all the old software from X. Will the new Intel IMacs run the old 9.0 software like my powerbook does ? I would not want to invest in new versions of Photoshop 7.0, Windows for the Mac, etc. Woody --- And the answer is: Who knows! The statement has been made that if the application needs Classic to run, then it will not run on the new machines. If it runs under the latest versions of OS X, then it will run on the new machines. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel IMacs
At 12:17 PM -0500 01/11/2006, Michael Cangelosi wrote: Interesting; with this switch to the beginning of abandoning Classic (not only booting to OS9 but rather the entire software that runs under classic) 10.4.X will probably be the last OSX that will include any support for classic at all. My instinct is to hope you're wrong. But since Jobs has been known to rip out working software/support for things... You're probably right. I also wouldn't be shocked if Leopard (10.5) dropped support for a number of older Macs, perhaps even all the G3's. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
