Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?
Hi again, Listers! Thank you all for your opinions, tips, etc. One thing that I found is that I still do not learn the names of the versions, so I'm always wondering if Panther is X.3 or X.2. :-) James Sanderson wrote: if you really like Panther more than Jaguar. This comp had issues with Jaguar; it ran more slowly, wouldn't wake from sleep, and it had some serious video issues (screen would turn blank, for example, or it would 'melt'). The upgrade to Panther fixed all those issues, but ran slowly until I upgraded the processor, not that it's blazing fast now, mind, but it runs quite well for my needs. I installed OS X when it came out, but didn't run well on my Wallstreet, then I installed OS X.2 on it and it was passable. I sold that PB, bought a Pismo and installed OS X.3 on it. What a difference! This was usable! But, I sold my Pismo, too. I was going to buy one of the 600 MHz iBooks, but I spent the $$$ on more urgent things. Now I bought the WS II, and I'm wondering about the OS. What I found out, is that what is fast for some is slow for others. I don't mind waiting 2 or 3 seconds for a web page to appear. My son considers that unacceptably slow. I find OS X.3.9 runs well on a 400 MHz iMac, but my son finds it slow. It's all relative. Nick wrote: I would stick with 9 on that machine. My buddy has a 500Mhz Pismo and it runs X ok. A bit pokey, but it goes. That is what I was thinking about. You consider OS X on a 500 MHz Pismo a bit pokey. I consider OS X.3 on a Pismo 400 MHz and on an iMac 400 MHz very good. And Mad Dog wrote: Its going to be slow, but what do you expect. I am quite surprised how well my G3/300 WS2 runs 10.3.9. Using XPF you might have to fiddle a bit if you get the Purple Panther Problem, but its solvable. I don't remember reading about the PPP. What is it? Once again, thank you all for your input. I'm leaning to stay with OS 9.2.2, until I get at least a 300 MHz CPU upgrade. Best regards. macnifico (Hugo Diaz) o The only thing we knew for sure about Henry Porter is that his name wasn't Henry Porter Bob Dylan, Brownsville Girl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?
On Tue, 24 May 2005, macnifico wrote: I installed OS X when it came out, but didn't run well on my Wallstreet, then I installed OS X.2 on it and it was passable. I sold that PB, bought a Pismo and installed OS X.3 on it. What a difference! This was usable! But, I sold my Pismo, too. I was going to buy one of the 600 MHz iBooks, but I spent the $$$ on more urgent things. Now I bought the WS II, and I'm wondering about the OS. What I found out, is that what is fast for some is slow for others. I don't mind waiting 2 or 3 seconds for a web page to appear. My son considers that unacceptably slow. I find OS X.3.9 runs well on a 400 MHz iMac, but my son finds it slow. It's all relative. Nick wrote: I would stick with 9 on that machine. My buddy has a 500Mhz Pismo and it runs X ok. A bit pokey, but it goes. That is what I was thinking about. You consider OS X on a 500 MHz Pismo a bit pokey. I consider OS X.3 on a Pismo 400 MHz and on an iMac 400 MHz very good. It depends on what your used to. I can grab a finder window and toss it around and the thing is redrawn instantly. On the Pismo it's more like the top half of the window goes and there are some scraggly lines that run down and the bottom trails behind. Screen redraws are slower in all apps. I have 32MB ATI 7500 in my 667DVI and he has 8MB ATI Rage Mobile. He doesn't have a problem with it, but when I use his machine, I notice it. This is a Your Milage May Vary kind of thing. -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?
And Mad Dog wrote: Its going to be slow, but what do you expect. I am quite surprised how well my G3/300 WS2 runs 10.3.9. Using XPF you might have to fiddle a bit if you get the Purple Panther Problem, but its solvable. I don't remember reading about the PPP. What is it? You get a purple tint on the screen in 10.3 in some cases. This is casued by a driver issue. XPF can work around it. Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?
On 24 May 2005, at 15:01, macnifico wrote: Hi again, Listers! Thank you all for your opinions, tips, etc. One thing that I found is that I still do not learn the names of the versions, so I'm always wondering if Panther is X.3 or X.2. Panther=X.3 Jaguar=X.2 Jaguar ran slowly on the WSI with a 233 processor as the WS I/233 has no cache and a lower bus speed (66 mhz). With an upgrade to 292 one gains 1 MB of L2 cache and bump in the bus speed to 83 mhz. These gains allow the WS I to run Panther (X.3) competently. It's not blazing fast, but for strolling along the 'superhighway', reading e- mail, and doing word processing this is acceptable to me. It's all relative. Yes, it is! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?
Hi, Listers! I'm getting a Wallstreet with a 6 Gb HD, 288 Mb RAM, and 233 MHz G3. It's going to be used mainly for light Web browsing, and a few Excel spreadsheests. Nothing processor-intensive. I was wondering if OS X.3 would run OK on this machine, or if I should stay with OS 9.2.2. I have OS X.2, too. But I've grown acustomed (spell?) to OS X.3.9, it runs very well in my iMac 400 MHz with 320 Mb. Thank you for your input. HD Its going to be slow, but what do you expect. I am quite surprised how well my G3/300 WS2 runs 10.3.9. Using XPF you might have to fiddle a bit if you get the Purple Panther Problem, but its solvable. Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?
On 23 May 2005, at 20:53, macnifico wrote: Hi, Listers! I'm getting a Wallstreet with a 6 Gb HD, 288 Mb RAM, and 233 MHz G3. It's going to be used mainly for light Web browsing, and a few Excel spreadsheests. Nothing processor-intensive. I was wondering if OS X.3 would run OK on this machine, or if I should stay with OS 9.2.2. I have OS X.2, too. But I've grown acustomed (spell?) to OS X.3.9, it runs very well in my iMac 400 MHz with 320 Mb. Thank you for your input. HD Runs great on my WS I/292, with only 162MB. I think about how much better it would be if it could support more memory, but I've had some issues with larger memory. The sound of broken glass at startup with two different sticks that work in other computers. It did this with the original processor, too, a 233 like yours. I think that the processor upgrade would be worthwhile if you really like Panther more than Jaguar. This comp had issues with Jaguar; it ran more slowly, wouldn't wake from sleep, and it had some serious video issues (screen would turn blank, for example, or it would 'melt'). The upgrade to Panther fixed all those issues, but ran slowly until I upgraded the processor, not that it's blazing fast now, mind, but it runs quite well for my needs. J Sanderson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?
On Mon, 23 May 2005, macnifico wrote: Hi, Listers! I'm getting a Wallstreet with a 6 Gb HD, 288 Mb RAM, and 233 MHz G3. It's going to be used mainly for light Web browsing, and a few Excel spreadsheests. Nothing processor-intensive. I was wondering if OS X.3 would run OK on this machine, or if I should stay with OS 9.2.2. I have OS X.2, too. But I've grown acustomed (spell?) to OS X.3.9, it runs very well in my iMac 400 MHz with 320 Mb. Thank you for your input. HD Is it the Wallstreet without the L2 cache? Running 9 on a cacheless system is bad. X would be glacial. Swap central. No X. What size screen does it have? If it's the 12 then it only has 2MB of vram. Don't run X on that. The screen redraws will be terrible. If it's a 13.3 or 14.1 screen then you would have 4MB of vram. A bit better, but not much. I would stick with 9 on that machine. My buddy has a 500Mhz Pismo and it runs X ok. A bit pokey, but it goes. Possibly the Wallstreet users will be able to give you a better idea on how X is running. Good luck, -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
