Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:11 PM, gianfranco sciacca wrote: Just to add my experience... I have both an 800MHz 15 Tibook and a 12 867MHz AlBook using AP and AP Extreme respectively. I live in a duplex apt with 6 concrete floors and cinder block walls. I can take these books to any part of the house, upstairs or downstairs and I have all the arcs showing full reception. I'm using a Belkin wireless router as the transmitter and everything has been functioning without drops or loss. So IOW, it may not be a problem at all? I seem to recall reading something about these along time ago, in reference to something inside that gets dislocated that could cause poor reception too. Maybe the antenna? As I remember, you could put whatever it was back into the proper place and reception would be much improved. I think I might do some googling on this.. I had asked a similar question some time ago and what I gathered from the replies was that the airport issue was fixed with the 867/1000 Titanium iteration. Maybe also the 800 was mentioned but I think the problem still existed in the 667. cheers, gianfranco The airport range may have been improved in later models, but it is still crap in all ti-books. You can get acceptable reception by getting a third party wifi card with an external antennae. 700MHz iBook G3 640MB Ram OS 10.3.5 Laugha while you can monkeyboy. Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
gianfranco sciacca wrote: I had asked a similar question some time ago and what I gathered from the replies was that the airport issue was fixed with the 867/1000 Titanium iteration. Maybe also the 800 was mentioned but I think the problem still existed in the 667. MTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: The airport range may have been improved in later models, but it is still crap in all ti-books. You can get acceptable reception by getting a third party wifi card with an external antennae. I was intrigued by this thought, so went down to my basement shop and looked over a pair of TiBooks, a 500 mHz and a 1 gHz (just shells actually) to see if there was any discernable difference between the antenna arraigements. Honestly, I can't see anything that looks to be significant. While the antenna boards are not the same parts, they have the same circuitry (such as it is!) and location, the later boards being slightly smaller than the early ones. Also, there appears to be the same absence of anti-EMI coating under the plastic edge where they reside. I think the main problem with TiBook reception is the antennae location, down low at the sides of the case where it's easy to block them with your hands or other radiation blockers. I have big hands that tend to flop over the side edges, so maybe reception problems are worse for those folks with larger hands, or those who rest their hands over those edges at any rate? OTOH . . . Interestingly, just last night I rebuilt _another_ 667 DVI and it seems to have much better reception than did my old 667 DVI on its built-in antennae. Maybe I'm just dreaming . . . perhaps I better do some scientific tests to see what's up! dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
Dan K wrote: I was intrigued by this thought, so went down to my basement shop and looked over a pair of TiBooks, a 500 mHz and a 1 gHz (just shells actually) to see if there was any discernable difference between the antenna arraigements. Honestly, I can't see anything that looks to be significant. While the antenna boards are not the same parts, they have the same circuitry (such as it is!) and location, the later boards being slightly smaller than the early ones. Also, there appears to be the same absence of anti-EMI coating under the plastic edge where they reside. I think the main problem with TiBook reception is the antennae location, down low at the sides of the case where it's easy to block them with your hands or other radiation blockers. I have big hands that tend to flop over the side edges, so maybe reception problems are worse for those folks with larger hands, or those who rest their hands over those edges at any rate? OTOH . . . Interestingly, just last night I rebuilt _another_ 667 DVI and it seems to have much better reception than did my old 667 DVI on its built-in antennae. Maybe I'm just dreaming . . . perhaps I better do some scientific tests to see what's up! So I've narrowed my choices down to either a DVI TiBook, or G4 iBook (14). Since my home is a smaller one level wood framed house, the furtherest I ever get away from my Sawtooth basestation isn't really more than 20', and I rarely use Airport outside the house. If I take it down to my shop, I have an iPAQ connection point that I don't get more than 30' from with no walls to interfere, so maybe Airport reception on the tiBook wouldn't be a real big deal. I have an external wifi card too if needed. And TiBooks have been around long enough to know what typical problems there are with them. OTOH, the G4 iBooks are still fairly new, so the jury is still out on those, but even used would likely still have a warranty and be eligable for Applecare. Tried and true versus new and unknown. Pretty tough call! Opinions? Recommendations? First hand experience with the G4 iBook? Also, other than eBay or the swap list, where would be a good place to look for a good used DVI TiBook? JR -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
As others have mentioned, the wifi reception is poor in all the TiBook models. Why is it so? Are AlBooks substantially better, better, or similar in this regard? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/GUIdebook Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
At 4:32 pm +0200 18/10/04, Marcin Wichary wrote: Why is it so? Are AlBooks substantially better, better, or similar in this regard? I have heard so - and I hope so as I'm replacing my TiBook with a new a aluminium model next week! Wireless reception on my TiBook varies considerably, depending on position or even rotation. This has been discussed many times here. -- With best wishes, Roger Shufflebottom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
On 18/10/04 10:32, Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As others have mentioned, the wifi reception is poor in all the TiBook models. Why is it so? Are AlBooks substantially better, better, or similar in this regard? Well, I can't really comment on Titanium PowerBooks since I've never used one, but it's been widely mentioned that the Titanium alloy they used was kind of blocking the WiFi reception. Now, it seems that Aluminum doesn't have this problem. I have been using a 17 for about a month now and I find the WiFi reception as good as the one I was getting on my previous PowerBook G3. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
On Oct 18, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Well, I can't really comment on Titanium PowerBooks since I've never used one, but it's been widely mentioned that the Titanium alloy they used was kind of blocking the WiFi reception. Now, it seems that Aluminum doesn't have this problem. I have been using a 17 for about a month now and I find the WiFi reception as good as the one I was getting on my previous PowerBook G3. -Laurent. Just to add my experience... I have both an 800MHz 15 Tibook and a 12 867MHz AlBook using AP and AP Extreme respectively. I live in a duplex apt with 6 concrete floors and cinder block walls. I can take these books to any part of the house, upstairs or downstairs and I have all the arcs showing full reception. I'm using a Belkin wireless router as the transmitter and everything has been functioning without drops or loss. dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
dan_A wrote: Just to add my experience... I have both an 800MHz 15 Tibook and a 12 867MHz AlBook using AP and AP Extreme respectively. I live in a duplex apt with 6 concrete floors and cinder block walls. I can take these books to any part of the house, upstairs or downstairs and I have all the arcs showing full reception. I'm using a Belkin wireless router as the transmitter and everything has been functioning without drops or loss. So IOW, it may not be a problem at all? I seem to recall reading something about these along time ago, in reference to something inside that gets dislocated that could cause poor reception too. Maybe the antenna? As I remember, you could put whatever it was back into the proper place and reception would be much improved. I think I might do some googling on this.. JR -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook 667 ID and wifi reception
Just to add my experience... I have both an 800MHz 15 Tibook and a 12 867MHz AlBook using AP and AP Extreme respectively. I live in a duplex apt with 6 concrete floors and cinder block walls. I can take these books to any part of the house, upstairs or downstairs and I have all the arcs showing full reception. I'm using a Belkin wireless router as the transmitter and everything has been functioning without drops or loss. So IOW, it may not be a problem at all? I seem to recall reading something about these along time ago, in reference to something inside that gets dislocated that could cause poor reception too. Maybe the antenna? As I remember, you could put whatever it was back into the proper place and reception would be much improved. I think I might do some googling on this.. I had asked a similar question some time ago and what I gathered from the replies was that the airport issue was fixed with the 867/1000 Titanium iteration. Maybe also the 800 was mentioned but I think the problem still existed in the 667. cheers, gianfranco -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
