Re: shutting down PBs at night
i've had powerbook 190, the dreaded 5300c, 3500c 'kanga', tangerine ibook, pismo, ti powerbook and the new aluminum powerbook never really turning them off some for 4 years, keep the power adapter on and the occasional restart of course. just make sure that energy saver allows them to sleep. rama. On Sep 14, 2004, at 6:12 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 14/09/04 02:34, Claire Hart at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? I never turn it off. I just put it to sleep... -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelin http://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] buzzword-compliant: [also `buzzword-enabled'] Used (disparagingly) of products that seem to have been specified to incorporate all of this month's trendy technologies. Key buzzwords that often show up in buzzword-compliant specifications as of 2001 include `XML', `Java', `peer-to-peer', `distributed', and `open'. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: shutting down PBs at night
On 13/09/2004, at 11:34 PM, Claire Hart wrote: While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Claire Waldo usually stays on though in sleep mode at times. At night, I go to sleep listening to music through iTunes and have him set up to go to sleep at 1 AM and wake up at 5 AM. Sort of a backup alarm clock. ;) Going to and from work, I just close the cover go into sleep mode. Amanda -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: shutting down PBs at night
Up until recently, I've just been putting my TiBook to sleep, but now I have CCC doing a backup at 2 o'clock in the morning, so it's on all night. I guess the longest time it's ever been switched off in the near 3 years that I've had it, is when it went back to Apple to have its hard drive replaced under Applecare. They not only did the hard drive, but replaced the chassis, which had the traditional Ti-acne, new rubber feet and those rubber thingies that unsuccessfully try stop the screen touching the keyboard. It's gorgeous - like new now. Anyone who's bought a Powerbook within the last year and hasn't got Applecare, get it quick! Stephen. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
Kyle Hansen said: Myst is for those over 40. I'm not 40 yet. ;) Beside all the Myst games and Riven I don't do any games since the early nighties. I don't have the time. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: shutting down PBs at night
On 14 Sep 2004, at 7:34 am, Claire Hart wrote: While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? I generally close my iBook and let it sleep. I only shut it down if I'm going away for a couple of days and not bringing it with me, in which case it gets hidden away (a determined burglar would probably find it, but why make it easy?). Miche. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
At 7:54 PM -0700 9/14/04, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 9/14/04 6:45 PM, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Afraid the black helicopters are going to read your Myst scores through the power line Kyle? :) H ha ha. I play BF 1942 and CoD. Myst is for those over 40. S. I hear a rotor. Where is my tin foil hat??? No Myst here. My preferred cyber-mayhem is Marathon, et al. -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
Since I live in the Midwest and we have electrical storms quite often, I see no reason to tempt fate by leaving my laptop on or even plugged in when not in use. I sometime let them sleep when I travel so I can access the laptop quickly when I need to, but even then I turn it off more often than not. Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
On 9/14/04 8:09 PM, Gary Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Should they be OUR reasons? Like Donald, I'd like to know if this is a good idea for others Leaving a machine sleeping is leaving it in a very limited on state. Meaning that the power management circuits are charged all the time. For example, in my 17 Powerbook that would leave the Backup Battery Board, the DC in Board, the Bluetooth module, and to a certain extent the Logic Board constantly under power. I don't want to risk having to replace any one of these parts if the unit gets surged or one wears out more quickly from the constant stream of electricity. Whether or not you know or believe this it's true; unless you have some special regulator installed at your house (and I'll bet none of you do), your electricity is constantly spiking and dipping slightly. This is normal. Ask any electrician. Personally, I use a Belkin UPS that has AVR (Automatic Voltage Regulation) to clean up the power coming into my house from the utility pole. Things like refrigerators and televisions are much more tolerant of line spikes than computers. I have seen a house get surged and nothing was damaged but the iMac, and even things plugged into the same power strip are fine...but the iMac couldn't handle the rapid and drastic change in voltage. I also like to have my memory heap dumped and temp files unloaded, so I use Macjanitor religiously for clean-ups. Apple's stance on the topic is that it's fine to leave your unit on 24/7/365. That's because when your machine breaks you will spend more money at Apple and buy a new one. Apple also considers the Lifetime of a computer to be about 18 months, after that they expect you to upgrade. So they build their machines to last 2-3 years as a minimum. That way if something breaks you will (most likely) be outside of your 1-year warranty period and if you paid more money then your Applecare Protection Plan will cover you for a total of 3 years from the purchase date. And I highly recommend an APP on any powerbook. I bought it myself for my own book. Parts are just too pricey for PB's. What it really comes down to is this: My first powerbook was a PB100. I have had PB's throughout the last 17 years, and aside from a faulty PMU in my Wallstreet (common and well documented problem at Apple) I have had absolutely no problem with any of them doing things the way I do things. I sleep my PB when I am not going to be using it for up to about 6 hours...if the span is going to be longer than that I shut it down. I also shut it down every night and put it in it's Brenthaven bag to prevent dust from getting into it and I regularly open it and clean it. You can do things the way you feel is best, but for example, there is an article in the KBase that attributes constant sleeping to problems with the Pismo series. Kyle H. Hansen -- Jesus Saves...but Gretzky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal!!! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
On 15/09/04 13:33, Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/04 8:09 PM, Gary Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Should they be OUR reasons? Like Donald, I'd like to know if this is a good idea for others Leaving a machine sleeping is leaving it in a very limited on state. Meaning that the power management circuits are charged all the time. For example, in my 17 Powerbook that would leave the Backup Battery Board, the DC in Board, the Bluetooth module, and to a certain extent the Logic Board constantly under power. I don't want to risk having to replace any one of these parts if the unit gets surged or one wears out more quickly from the constant stream of electricity. Whether or not you know or believe this it's true; unless you have some special regulator installed at your house (and I'll bet none of you do), your electricity is constantly spiking and dipping slightly. This is normal. Ask any electrician. Personally, I use a Belkin UPS that has AVR (Automatic Voltage Regulation) to clean up the power coming into my house from the utility pole. Things like refrigerators and televisions are much more tolerant of line spikes than computers. I have seen a house get surged and nothing was damaged but the iMac, and even things plugged into the same power strip are fine...but the iMac couldn't handle the rapid and drastic change in voltage. I also like to have my memory heap dumped and temp files unloaded, so I use Macjanitor religiously for clean-ups. Apple's stance on the topic is that it's fine to leave your unit on 24/7/365. That's because when your machine breaks you will spend more money at Apple and buy a new one. Apple also considers the Lifetime of a computer to be about 18 months, after that they expect you to upgrade. So they build their machines to last 2-3 years as a minimum. That way if something breaks you will (most likely) be outside of your 1-year warranty period and if you paid more money then your Applecare Protection Plan will cover you for a total of 3 years from the purchase date. And I highly recommend an APP on any powerbook. I bought it myself for my own book. Parts are just too pricey for PB's. What it really comes down to is this: My first powerbook was a PB100. I have had PB's throughout the last 17 years, and aside from a faulty PMU in my Wallstreet (common and well documented problem at Apple) I have had absolutely no problem with any of them doing things the way I do things. I sleep my PB when I am not going to be using it for up to about 6 hours...if the span is going to be longer than that I shut it down. I also shut it down every night and put it in it's Brenthaven bag to prevent dust from getting into it and I regularly open it and clean it. You can do things the way you feel is best, but for example, there is an article in the KBase that attributes constant sleeping to problems with the Pismo series. Just as a thought on this, I'm not in electronics that much but I've read a few times that turning electronic equipment off is sometimes more stressful when you turn them back on because the current that is suddenly applied to the circuits. Don't ask me to explain or elaborate, it's just what I've read and heard a few times... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
On Sep 15, 2004, at 1:45 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Just as a thought on this, I'm not in electronics that much but I've read a few times that turning electronic equipment off is sometimes more stressful when you turn them back on because the current that is suddenly applied to the circuits. Don't ask me to explain or elaborate, it's just what I've read and heard a few times... FWIW this debate has raged on endlessly in many different places. Some folks leave theirs on all the time, others unplug them when they aren't using them, others are somewhere in between. There are arguments to be made for any. I think other than turning the screen off (not just dimmed but off) there are reasons to believe one over the other. Personally I hate the length of time it takes to cold boot OS X. I leave mine sleeping, but often it is plugged into a 450 APC UPS overnight, so I'm not as concerned about the power flux problems. We lived in Florida for 5 years and just about everything except the microwave was on a UPS due to the major power storms. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: shutting down PBs at night
On Sep 14, 2004, at 9:44 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Or is your primary concern power surges? If that's the case then, yeah, you either put your faith in surge suppressors or unplug it. Or get a decent UPS unit, not one of those silly little extension cord things that calls itself a surge protector (yeah right). APC has worked well for me, FWIW. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
Just as a thought on this, I'm not in electronics that much but I've read a few times that turning electronic equipment off is sometimes more stressful when you turn them back on because the current that is suddenly applied to the circuits. Don't ask me to explain or elaborate, it's just what I've read and heard a few times... This has been posted very recently posted on the iMac LEM list: It has basis in the days of vacuum tubes. It has to do with the Tungsten filaments used in the CRT type monitors. Tungsten has a positive temperature coefficient of resistance; the cold resistance being about a third of that at the operating temperature. So when you turn on a CRT from cold, three times the current flows through the filament until it heats up. The theory is: Multiple turn-ons stress the filament and it can fail earlier than when it is allowed to run hot (or reasonably warm) when not in use. (You may have noticed how incandescent lamps sometimes burn-out at the time they are switched on) There are ways to limit the initial inrush current to avoid this kind of damage. With proper attention to design, this should not be an issue with modern CRT based equipment. Nor should it have anything to do with the LCD type monitors. If anyone's interested more in this, look in the iMac list archive (topic called Sleep, beginning of September) -- I assume that it's publicly available? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/GUIdebook Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 9/14/04 5:52 PM, MTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I don't have a powerbook, but my iBook has only been turned off once in the year and a half that I have owned it and that is when I shipped it back to Apple for service. I think that it would upset me to turn it off every night, I'm not patient enough to wait for it to start up when I want to get on it again. I'm an Apple Certified Technician and I shut mine off every night and unplug it from the wall. I have my reasons. Care to share? For example, I've been told numberous times that OS X does its maintenance in the wee hours. Unless you get into CRON or use a utility such as Onyx, you're apparently bound for trouble if oyu turn your machine off. -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
shutting down PBs at night
While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: shutting down PBs at night
Usually I leave it plugged in to recharge for the morning, closed, sleeping, in its case or in a safe place (table, stand, whatnot). -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Claire Hart Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:34 PM To: G-Books Subject: shutting down PBs at night While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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The National Enquirer reports at 1:34 AM -0500 9/14/04, Claire Hart wrote: While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? In the 6 years that I've had this PowerBook, I've almost never turned it off. I just put it to sleep when I'm not planning on using it immediately. Including overnight. I don't usually close the lid either. But then I don't have cats, dogs or kids in the house. :-) Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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From: Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? I have an AluBook 1GHz at work and I always switch it off, though leave it open. No need the wear the hinges more than I have to. I just leave it on my desk. The other day I left it on as I had to catch a bus home and it was still performing an upgrade and when I came in the next day it was still warm (not hot), though I have an old internal PC fan standing behind it on all the time and it's raised at the back (stands on two rubbers from an old Quadra 700). Also, I just exchanged the battery (Apple free of charge suspected faulty battery thing), which shows I did the right thing switching it off. I agree with you, better to switch a PowerBook off due to the battery as opposed to an iMac or whatever. Larry _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Hey Claire... My Ti800 G4PB hasn't been ShutDown for a total of more than 3 weeks in over +2 years of constant use, and then only under certain circumstances of travel. I DO ReBoot from ShutDown periodically; And run TTP4, DW and MacJanitor religiously. But from OM JAGUAR Instal, thru present PANTHER 10.3.5, (not including yesterday's Security Update, (I let them 'marinate' a bit)), I've only ever had 2 problems. Occasional SYSTEM hick-Ups after an APPLE or VIREX UpDate. And a problem mounting DW's DISK. And ONLY their DISK, in nearly 3 years of moderate Drive use. I've gotten 2 from them. And both present the same, Hanging-without-mounting, while Unable-to-Eject, problem. And one, (for me cosmetic), ware-failure. 2 hair-line, pencil-wide-apart stripes, top to bottom of the far right screen, that appeared in the first 2 weeks of use. Other than that; This machine has operated like a Swiss-Jeweled charm. APPLE Solid, (Knock-on-Wood). Though, not an ImageWriter II. . But then; Not many things in this life are. e. -- Hail MAC! On This14 ,Sep,;2004, at 02:56 AM, Imal Tornapart wrote: Usually I leave it plugged in to recharge for the morning, closed, sleeping, in its case or in a safe place (table, stand, whatnot). -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Claire Hart Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:34 PM To: G-Books Subject: shutting down PBs at night While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Claire -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? I usually leave it asleep, with lid closed and power plugged in -- usually on my desk. I don't have any animals and I live alone, so it seems a pretty safe way. Plus I absolutely love the way its light pulses in the dark room. :) Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/GUIdebook Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On 9/14/04 2:34 AM, Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? I turn my PB off for two reasons: I know I won't be using it for several days (that means vacations not involving the motorhome) or I'm sending it back to the mothership for repair. Otherwise it sleeps on or off the charger depending on the circumstances. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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on 14/09/04 02:34, Claire Hart at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? I never turn it off. I just put it to sleep... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] buzzword-compliant: [also `buzzword-enabled'] Used (disparagingly) of products that seem to have been specified to incorporate all of this month's trendy technologies. Key buzzwords that often show up in buzzword-compliant specifications as of 2001 include `XML', `Java', `peer-to-peer', `distributed', and `open'. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Mine is either plugged in and sleeping, or sitting on the couch or in the bag sleeping. I usually leave it running all weekend on the laptop stand in my office as I'm on it quite a bit, or I have processes that I run overnight (iDVD encode/record and the like) My PB only gets shut off if I take an airplane trip, or if I have to reboot for a security update from Apple. It hasn't caused any issues over the last 1.5 years. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Bummer! When I turn my brightness down, the Apple on the lid goes off too. Byron On Sep 14, 2004, at 5:31 AM, E. Moorhead wrote: Hey Marcin... On This14 ,Sep,;2004, at 05:52 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? I usually leave it asleep, with lid closed and power plugged in -- usually on my desk. I don't have any animals and I live alone, so it seems a pretty safe way. Plus I absolutely love the way its light pulses in the dark room. :) If THAT gets your motor running... ...try turning the BRIGHTNESS off, the Lid to a perpendicular position, and the PB to face the wall. The resulting, surrealistic, floating APPLE, in the darkened room, should really earn the Checkered Flag! :-))) e. -- Hail MAC! Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On 14 Sep 2004, at 15:04, G-Books wrote: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: shutting down PBs at night Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:34:13 -0500 Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Claire Never, my PB 17 stays on 24/7 , during the night charging, and keeps on folding ! Greetings, Andre. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Bummer! When I turn my brightness down, the Apple on the lid goes off too. It's physically the same lamp, isn't it? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/GUIdebook Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I usually turn my computers off. - Original Message - From: Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:34 AM Subject: shutting down PBs at night While more often than not I leave my iMac on at night, I always turn off my Powerbook. I guess it just seems more vulnerable left on all night, for some reason. In fact, until recently, I'd carefully pack it and all of its stuff back in the softside briefcase I bought for it. Now I often leave it, turned off and with lid closed, where I used it last (on the couch, on the footstool, on the bed, by the iMac, on the dining table...). Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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At 6:32 PM +0200 9/14/04, invicta wrote: On 14 Sep 2004, at 15:04, G-Books wrote: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: shutting down PBs at night Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:34:13 -0500 Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Claire Never, my PB 17 stays on 24/7 , during the night charging, and keeps on folding ! Like me, my WallStreet sleeps overnight. -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Since I live in the Midwest and we have electrical storms quite often, I see no reason to tempt fate by leaving my laptop on or even plugged in when not in use. I sometime let them sleep when I travel so I can access the laptop quickly when I need to, but even then I turn it off more often than not. Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 11:32 AM, invicta wrote: On 14 Sep 2004, at 15:04, G-Books wrote: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: shutting down PBs at night Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:34:13 -0500 Do you guys turn off your PBs at night? Claire I don't have a powerbook, but my iBook has only been turned off once in the year and a half that I have owned it and that is when I shipped it back to Apple for service. I think that it would upset me to turn it off every night, I'm not patient enough to wait for it to start up when I want to get on it again. 700MHz iBook G3 640MB Ram OS 10.2.8 Laugha while you can monkeyboy. Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On 9/14/04 5:52 PM, MTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I don't have a powerbook, but my iBook has only been turned off once in the year and a half that I have owned it and that is when I shipped it back to Apple for service. I think that it would upset me to turn it off every night, I'm not patient enough to wait for it to start up when I want to get on it again. I'm an Apple Certified Technician and I shut mine off every night and unplug it from the wall. I have my reasons. Kyle H. Hansen -- Jesus Saves...but Gretzky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal!!! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I'm an Apple Certified Technician and I shut mine off every night and unplug it from the wall. I have my reasons. Kyle H. Hansen Kyle: Unless your reasons are forces of nature, it would be a good idea to follow your example, no? Donald -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On 9/14/04 6:45 PM, Donald Keenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I'm an Apple Certified Technician and I shut mine off every night and unplug it from the wall. I have my reasons. Kyle H. Hansen Kyle: Unless your reasons are forces of nature, it would be a good idea to follow your example, no? Donald There are many technical reasons to do so. I have had absolutely no sleep or power related problems with any laptop I ever owned...aside from a bad PMU in my first Wallstreet (which was beyond my control). Forces of nature need to be considered as well. If you have an electrical device plugged into the wall when lightning strikes down the street the outcome is obvious. Kyle H. Hansen -- Jesus Saves...but Gretzky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal!!! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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At 7:30 PM -0500 9/14/04, Tom Ethen wrote: Since I live in the Midwest and we have electrical storms quite often, I see no reason to tempt fate by leaving my laptop on or even plugged in when not in use. I sometime let them sleep when I travel so I can access the laptop quickly when I need to, but even then I turn it off more often than not. The batteries will keep it powered in sleep for a week or more. It's still your call but personally I prefer the convenience of having it startup up from sleep in about 10 seconds. Or is your primary concern power surges? If that's the case then, yeah, you either put your faith in surge suppressors or unplug it. -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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At 6:29 PM -0700 9/14/04, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 9/14/04 5:52 PM, MTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I don't have a powerbook, but my iBook has only been turned off once in the year and a half that I have owned it and that is when I shipped it back to Apple for service. I think that it would upset me to turn it off every night, I'm not patient enough to wait for it to start up when I want to get on it again. I'm an Apple Certified Technician and I shut mine off every night and unplug it from the wall. I have my reasons. Kyle H. Hansen Afraid the black helicopters are going to read your Myst scores through the power line Kyle? :) -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
On 9/14/04 6:45 PM, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Afraid the black helicopters are going to read your Myst scores through the power line Kyle? :) H ha ha. I play BF 1942 and CoD. Myst is for those over 40. S. I hear a rotor. Where is my tin foil hat??? Kyle H. Hansen -- Jesus Saves...but Gretzky grabs the rebound and backhands for a goal!!! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
Should they be OUR reasons? Like Donald, I'd like to know if this is a good idea for others Subject: Re: Shutting down PBs at night From: Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/14/04 5:52 PM, MTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I don't have a powerbook, but my iBook has only been turned off once in the year and a half that I have owned it and that is when I shipped it back to Apple for service. I think that it would upset me to turn it off every night, I'm not patient enough to wait for it to start up when I want to get on it again. I'm an Apple Certified Technician and I shut mine off every night and unplug it from the wall. I have my reasons. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Shutting down PBs at night
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:29:31 -0700 Subject: Re: Shutting down PBs at night From: Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/14/04 5:52 PM, MTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I don't have a powerbook, but my iBook has only been turned off once in the year and a half that I have owned it and that is when I shipped it back to Apple for service. I think that it would upset me to turn it off every night, I'm not patient enough to wait for it to start up when I want to get on it again. I'm an Apple Certified Technician and I shut mine off every night and unplug it from the wall. I have my reasons. Kyle H. Hansen I'm not sure what i the best way reply to the list digest. So if someone can clarify this, I may not bungle future replies. The above subject has no value if response is yes I do or no I don't. Perhaps the original author should have said Why should I shut down PB.? Opinions seem to divide on: Yes, turn it off because there is potential for: 1. threat of power fluctuations/damage due to storms etc. 2. damage due to unwanted invasion from local or network 3. waste. some people don't put it in sleep mode (heat concerns?). 4. battery longevity. Is it better to cycle, drain etc. Most people don't know the totally different approach to battery maint. re battery type. 5. damage to mechanical components: if on, it's worse if bumped. No, leave it on because there is potential for: 1. OSX is designed to work better that way 2. mechanical components function longer if not cycled. 3, no greater damage if in sleep mode. 4. batteries work best this way. ( where do the G-books change?) 5. less start-up time. Am I all wet? Don Pruitt ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
