Re: TiBook display repair (follow-up)

[Mikael Byström]

John C. Swanson said:

>The in most laptops inverter is part of the display assembly, and I
>can't imagine that the TiBook is any different.  The inverter will be
>replaced when you replace the display.

If you're meaning the inverter board I'm pretty sure that this card is
not a part of the diplay assembly in the titanium powerbooks. I think the
inverter board of the titaniums is to the left in the bottom case.


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Re: TiBook display repair (follow-up)

[Dan K]

"John C. Swanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>The in most laptops inverter is part of the display assembly, and I
>can't imagine that the TiBook is any different.  The inverter will be
>replaced when you replace the display.
Just to nip that incorrect imagining in the bud, the inverter in TiBooks 
is located in the body of the 'Book, not in the display. The entire 
display is scant millimeters larger in any direction than the actual LCD, 
no room in there for an inverter!

>That being said a CCFL lamp isn't a very expensive part compared to a
>whole display.  Just a much more difficult replacement.
_That_ part you got quite right, a TiBook's LCD is a double PITA to 
replace and their CCFL a triple PITA!

:-P

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Re: TiBook display repair (follow-up)

[John C. Swanson]

> Laurent:
>> Unless you have a spare ribbon cable, I'm afraid you'll need to
pretty
>> much disassemble the assembly display in order to test the new one
you
>> got.
> 
> I'm confused on this one. What cable you refer to? The display
assembly
> has all the cables it needs, so I should just be able to plug the so-
> called "data" cable to the logic board (left side, is this the ribbon
> cable you refer to?) and the backlight cable  to the inverter on the
right
> side. What I'm afraid of is that for some obscure effect, a bad
inverter
> could blow the CCFL lamp and I'm back at the beginning, only with 500
EUR
> less in the pocket!!

The in most laptops inverter is part of the display assembly, and I
can't imagine that the TiBook is any different.  The inverter will be
replaced when you replace the display.

That being said a CCFL lamp isn't a very expensive part compared to a
whole display.  Just a much more difficult replacement.

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Re: TiBook display repair (follow-up)

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 02/11/04 06:51, Francesco sciacca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Laurent:
>> Unless you have a spare ribbon cable, I'm afraid you'll need to pretty
>> much disassemble the assembly display in order to test the new one you
>> got.
> 
> I'm confused on this one. What cable you refer to? The display assembly
> has all the cables it needs, so I should just be able to plug the so-
> called "data" cable to the logic board (left side, is this the ribbon
> cable you refer to?) and the backlight cable  to the inverter on the right
> side. What I'm afraid of is that for some obscure effect, a bad inverter
> could blow the CCFL lamp and I'm back at the beginning, only with 500 EUR
> less in the pocket!!

Oups! Sorry about that. I was probably tired when I read your email. If you
bought the display assembly, then there is no need, of course, to
disassemble the defective one.

As somebody else pointed out, I don't think that a bad inverter could blow
the lamp. But I'm no technician.

Kyle, where are you when we need you   ;-)

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Just send him a short, polite email. He's an experienced Mac technician so
it should take him just a few seconds to tell you whether this is a good
move or a bad move...

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Re: TiBook display repair (follow-up)

[Francesco sciacca]

>> I'd like to test quickly if just replacing the display fixes the
>> problem (the inverter could be fried as well) before taking the machine
>> apart (which I've never done before). Say I connect the data cable to
>> the logic board, the backlight cable directly to the inverter
>> (bypassing the cable extension), do I risk damaging the display or
>> backlight if the inverter is bad? Or is it a test I can carry out with
>> no risk?

Dan:

> That said, I don't think there's much risk in trying it out. I really
> doubt a bad inverter will kill a known-good CCFL lamp. That's just my
> best guess though, so don't blame me if you burn down your neighborhood
> or something!
> 
> Sorry I can't be more positive about the answer, but this is one of 
> those "take-yer-chances" sort of deals.
> 
> However, do tell us (or me anyway, am I the only one interested? :-) the
> outcome please!

ok, I see no other way than just trying. Well the display has costed me 
over 500 EUR, which I know is crazy but is the best (actually the *only*) 
deal I could get in Germany. Unfortunately i'm in the meantime relocating, 
so I will have to wait a few more days before giving it a try, I will then 
certainly report (possibly with a smile!)

Laurent:
> Unless you have a spare ribbon cable, I'm afraid you'll need to pretty 
> much disassemble the assembly display in order to test the new one you
> got.

I'm confused on this one. What cable you refer to? The display assembly 
has all the cables it needs, so I should just be able to plug the so-
called "data" cable to the logic board (left side, is this the ribbon 
cable you refer to?) and the backlight cable  to the inverter on the right 
side. What I'm afraid of is that for some obscure effect, a bad inverter 
could blow the CCFL lamp and I'm back at the beginning, only with 500 EUR 
less in the pocket!!

cheers for the advice, gianfranco

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Re: TiBook display repair (follow-up)

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 31/10/04 22:17, Dan K at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (gianfranco sciacca) asked:
>> following up my previous posts some weeks ago concerning a TiBook with
>> a dark display (after a bad "cleaning action"), I have finally got a
>> replacement display assembly. My question I hope some tech on the list
>> could address is:
>> 
>> I'd like to test quickly if just replacing the display fixes the
>> problem (the inverter could be fried as well) before taking the machine
>> apart (which I've never done before). Say I connect the data cable to
>> the logic board, the backlight cable directly to the inverter
>> (bypassing the cable extension), do I risk damaging the display or
>> backlight if the inverter is bad? Or is it a test I can carry out with
>> no risk?
> 
> Well, I can't answer with great authority on this one, I just don't know
> all the possibilities.
> 
> However, I can say if it were me I'd just go ahead and plug in the new
> display and see what happened. Err, but that's me, and I have extra bits
> with which to play and the thought of killing an otherwise good display
> doesn't dismay me all that much.
> 
> That said, I don't think there's much risk in trying it out. I really
> doubt a bad inverter will kill a known-good CCFL lamp. That's just my
> best guess though, so don't blame me if you burn down your neighborhood
> or something!
> 
> Sorry I can't be more positive about the answer, but this is one of those
> "take-yer-chances" sort of deals.
> 
> However, do tell us (or me anyway, am I the only one interested? :-) the
> outcome please!
> 

Unless you have a spare ribbon cable, I'm afraid you'll need to pretty much
disassemble the assembly display in order to test the new one you got.

-Laurent.
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Re: TiBook display repair (follow-up)

[Dan K]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (gianfranco sciacca) asked:
>following up my previous posts some weeks ago concerning a TiBook with 
>a dark display (after a bad "cleaning action"), I have finally got a 
>replacement display assembly. My question I hope some tech on the list 
>could address is:
>
>I'd like to test quickly if just replacing the display fixes the 
>problem (the inverter could be fried as well) before taking the machine 
>apart (which I've never done before). Say I connect the data cable to 
>the logic board, the backlight cable directly to the inverter 
>(bypassing the cable extension), do I risk damaging the display or 
>backlight if the inverter is bad? Or is it a test I can carry out with 
>no risk?

Well, I can't answer with great authority on this one, I just don't know 
all the possibilities.

However, I can say if it were me I'd just go ahead and plug in the new 
display and see what happened. Err, but that's me, and I have extra bits 
with which to play and the thought of killing an otherwise good display 
doesn't dismay me all that much.

That said, I don't think there's much risk in trying it out. I really 
doubt a bad inverter will kill a known-good CCFL lamp. That's just my 
best guess though, so don't blame me if you burn down your neighborhood 
or something!

Sorry I can't be more positive about the answer, but this is one of those 
"take-yer-chances" sort of deals.

However, do tell us (or me anyway, am I the only one interested? :-) the 
outcome please!

dan k

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hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500
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TiBook display repair (follow-up)

[gianfranco sciacca]

hello listers,
following up my previous posts some weeks ago concerning a TiBook with 
a dark display (after a bad "cleaning action"), I have finally got a 
replacement display assembly. My question I hope some tech on the list 
could address is:

I'd like to test quickly if just replacing the display fixes the 
problem (the inverter could be fried as well) before taking the machine 
apart (which I've never done before). Say I connect the data cable to 
the logic board, the backlight cable directly to the inverter 
(bypassing the cable extension), do I risk damaging the display or 
backlight if the inverter is bad? Or is it a test I can carry out with 
no risk?

cheers and thanks in advance for any help, gianfranco
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