Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
I guess YMMV is true. I'm on a 867MHz TiBk, using an airport card and Belkin 802.11g wireless router. I can get signal in my front yard with the router hooked up in the kitchen at the back of the (2nd floor) apartment. That's 3 walls, including the outer (stucco) @ appx 80'. On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Paul Nicholson wrote: I don't have an AlBook, but I do have a tiBook, and it's WiFi is miserable. It would barely do 25 feet straight line of site with no obstructions between my kitchen table and dining room table. Forget going an even shorter distance through a sheet rock wall. tiBook WiFi is lame. On Dec 26, 2003, at 9:28 AM, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote: tiBook WiFi is lame. Do you mean AlBook? -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 26, 2003, at 12:45 PM, G'kar wrote: On 12/26/03 3:13 PM, Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have an AlBook, but I do have a tiBook, and it's WiFi is miserable. It would barely do 25 feet straight line of site with no obstructions between my kitchen table and dining room table. Forget going an even shorter distance through a sheet rock wall. tiBook WiFi is lame. There's no question that the tiBook WiFi reception doesn't compare to the iBook's but your reception is so extreme that I can only imagine that something very strange is going on with your computer, the base station, or your home. With a DLink 802.11b router on the kitchen table, I was able to communicate to my tiBook on the dining room table. However the speed was slower than my DSL connection and it was sensitive to both the computer and router orientation. Yes, if I turned the router just so and typed into a tiBook at a bizarre angle. It probably would have worked at the dining room table. However, I also wanted it to work at a desk in the office and a desk in the bedroom. I expect wireless performance that would allow me to use by tiBook at full DSL speed from any room in my house. The tiBook won't do that. I have a two story (and basement) home. My base station is in the hall closet putting it roughly in the center of the house vertically and horizontally. It is a first generation airport with no external antenna. Several of my friends own tiBooks and none have trouble with reception on the first floor or outside on the patio. That's anywhere from 30 to 60 feet from the base station. They don't get the same strength of signal as my iBook or new alBook but they can print and surf. They do have varying success connecting when we are in my basement office. Can you use your alBook or IBook in the basement office? When you are elsewhere does your tiBook have similar lousy reception? Never tried it elsewhere. Have you checked that the card is seated properly? Yes, it is seated. I also checked the antenna connections. Have you had it back to Apple? It's out of warranty, and besides they don't fix design engineering problems, just component defects. To fix it right would require a redesign of the frame, ti cladding, and antennas. What about the basestation? It was a DLink, a rather nice product. Do you have any wifi visitors who have similar lousy reception? No, I took the DLink back to BestBuy while I still could and strung more 100 base-T wiring. Perhaps it isn't placed well. Router orientation did make a difference, but not enough to make it acceptable. Have you tried changing the channel it uses? It was equally bad on all channels. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On 12/27/03 1:20 PM, Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 26, 2003, at 12:45 PM, G'kar wrote: On 12/26/03 3:13 PM, Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have an AlBook, but I do have a tiBook, and it's WiFi is miserable. It would barely do 25 feet straight line of site with no obstructions between my kitchen table and dining room table. Forget going an even shorter distance through a sheet rock wall. tiBook WiFi is lame. There's no question that the tiBook WiFi reception doesn't compare to the iBook's but your reception is so extreme that I can only imagine that something very strange is going on with your computer, the base station, or your home. With a DLink 802.11b router on the kitchen table, I was able to communicate to my tiBook on the dining room table. However the speed was slower than my DSL connection and it was sensitive to both the computer and router orientation. Yes, if I turned the router just so and typed into a tiBook at a bizarre angle. It probably would have worked at the dining room table. However, I also wanted it to work at a desk in the office and a desk in the bedroom. I expect wireless performance that would allow me to use by tiBook at full DSL speed from any room in my house. The tiBook won't do that. I have a two story (and basement) home. My base station is in the hall closet putting it roughly in the center of the house vertically and horizontally. It is a first generation airport with no external antenna. Several of my friends own tiBooks and none have trouble with reception on the first floor or outside on the patio. That's anywhere from 30 to 60 feet from the base station. They don't get the same strength of signal as my iBook or new alBook but they can print and surf. They do have varying success connecting when we are in my basement office. Can you use your alBook or IBook in the basement office? Yes - sorry that wasn't obvious. My iBooks and the alBook get a full connection (all the bars lit up). When I go outside I can go anywhere in the yard with the iBook and get 2 of 4 bars in the extreme corners. With the alBook I get a wavering 1-2 bars in the corners. I can go to either neighbor's house and get 2 bars with the alBook but with the iBook 3 bars. When you are elsewhere does your tiBook have similar lousy reception? Never tried it elsewhere. Have you checked that the card is seated properly? Yes, it is seated. I also checked the antenna connections. Have you had it back to Apple? It's out of warranty, and besides they don't fix design engineering problems, just component defects. To fix it right would require a redesign of the frame, ti cladding, and antennas. But you are assuming that your reception is normal - my experience tells me otherwise and that's why I bothered to describe my setup and the reception other TiBook users got there. What about the basestation? It was a DLink, a rather nice product. Do you have any wifi visitors who have similar lousy reception? No, I took the DLink back to BestBuy while I still could and strung more 100 base-T wiring. So you tested with one base station and assumed your poor reception was the norm? I agree, the TiBook reception doesn't match that of the iBook but your description is abnormal from my experience. === The terrible thing about terrorism is that ultimately it destroys those who practise it. Slowly but surely, as they try to extinguish life in others, the light within them dies. Terry Waite -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
Ti Books always have and always will have terrible wireless reception. The poor reception has to do with the books titanium shell. The only way to get decent reception is to use a wireless card that plugs into the computers PC Card/ CardBus slot and has an external antennae. The only other way to improve the reception is to remove the titanium shell and cover it with something else. 700MHz iBook running 10.2.8 Macs for life! http://homepage.mac.com/nikon80x/Menu2.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
I thought it was because the wire was wrapped around the base instead of the screen...:P on 12/27/03 6:06 PM, Nikon's World at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ti Books always have and always will have terrible wireless reception. The poor reception has to do with the books titanium shell. The only way to get decent reception is to use a wireless card that plugs into the computers PC Card/ CardBus slot and has an external antennae. The only other way to improve the reception is to remove the titanium shell and cover it with something else. 700MHz iBook running 10.2.8 Macs for life! http://homepage.mac.com/nikon80x/Menu2.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 27, 2003, at 9:51 AM, James Rohde wrote: Should we also ask if Paul (or a near neighbor) uses a cordless phone in the home? Many use the same frequency range as 802.11b. That's one more reason I avoid cordless phones in my home - one less thing to have messing with WiFi. There were no clues of a temporaneous interruption such as that caused by neighbors on phones. My 100 base t works well! Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 27, 2003, at 6:22 PM, Illovox Media wrote: I thought it was because the wire was wrapped around the base instead of the screen...:P on 12/27/03 6:06 PM, Nikon's World at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ti Books always have and always will have terrible wireless reception. The poor reception has to do with the books titanium shell. The only way to get decent reception is to use a wireless card that plugs into the computers PC Card/ CardBus slot and has an external antennae. The only other way to improve the reception is to remove the titanium shell and cover it with something else. tiBooks have two slot antennas about 1.5 by 1/8 inches on each edge of the cast frame. Obviously, these two little slots don't provide enough radiating area for decent reception. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 27, 2003, at 11:17 AM, G'kar wrote: So you tested with one base station and assumed your poor reception was the norm? I agree, the TiBook reception doesn't match that of the iBook but your description is abnormal from my experience. There's plenty of stories like mine. Maybe I did have a sub optimal base station and/or maybe I do have sub average tiBook. The tiBook's out of warranty and I'm not throwing good money after bad to maybe get a few more feet out of the wireless reception. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 27, 2003, at 6:06 PM, Nikon's World wrote: Ti Books always have and always will have terrible wireless reception. The poor reception has to do with the books titanium shell. The only way to get decent reception is to use a wireless card that plugs into the computers PC Card/ CardBus slot and has an external antennae. The only other way to improve the reception is to remove the titanium shell and cover it with something else. Or you can run a coax cable from the WiFi card out to an external antennae. You can route the cable non destructively out through the PCMCIA slot, or destructively through one of the existing slot antenna openings. The you have to fasten the antenna to the display so it won't flop around, and remove it when you pack the computer. I see the tiBook wireless reception an example of round mouse syndrome at Apple. The powers thought that a round mouse would be way cool, forgetting that the hand on round mouse does not know which way the mouse is oriented. Someone at Apple thought the idea of an all metal PowerBook case was so cool that one of the primary advantages, wireless connectivity, was sacrificed. I'd rather have bit of plastic in my tiBook case with a decent WiFi antenna behind it. And I'd rather have a mouse that my hand knows which way it's oriented without having to finger for the connection cord. We expect great things from Apple and they usually deliver, but when they miss they really miss. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 15, 2003, at 12:15 AM, P. H. Adams wrote: I've heard that, in the new AlBooks, sometimes the antenna is loose on delivery. It might help to open it up and reseat the card and the antenna to see if that fixes it before sending off for repair. Kyle, have you found this to be the case? Even with the antenna plugged in, tiBook WiFi is lame. Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
tiBook WiFi is lame. Do you mean AlBook? -- Andrew A Mac Freak -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
on 12/26/03 9:28 AM, Andrew, a Mac Freak at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tiBook WiFi is lame. Do you mean AlBook? Why would he mean Al if he said TI? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On 12/26/03 3:13 PM, Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have an AlBook, but I do have a tiBook, and it's WiFi is miserable. It would barely do 25 feet straight line of site with no obstructions between my kitchen table and dining room table. Forget going an even shorter distance through a sheet rock wall. tiBook WiFi is lame. There's no question that the tiBook WiFi reception doesn't compare to the iBook's but your reception is so extreme that I can only imagine that something very strange is going on with your computer, the base station, or your home. I have a two story (and basement) home. My base station is in the hall closet putting it roughly in the center of the house vertically and horizontally. It is a first generation airport with no external antenna. Several of my friends own tiBooks and none have trouble with reception on the first floor or outside on the patio. That's anywhere from 30 to 60 feet from the base station. They don't get the same strength of signal as my iBook or new alBook but they can print and surf. They do have varying success connecting when we are in my basement office. When you are elsewhere does your tiBook have similar lousy reception? Have you checked that the card is seated properly? Have you had it back to Apple? What about the basestation? Do you have any wifi visitors who have similar lousy reception? Perhaps it isn't placed well. Have you tried changing the channel it uses? You might be getting local interference. david === The terrible thing about terrorism is that ultimately it destroys those who practise it. Slowly but surely, as they try to extinguish life in others, the light within them dies. Terry Waite -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
At 12:13 PM -0800 26/12/03, Paul Nicholson wrote: I don't have an AlBook, but I do have a tiBook, and it's WiFi is miserable. It would barely do 25 feet straight line of site with no obstructions between my kitchen table and dining room table. Forget going an even shorter distance through a sheet rock wall. tiBook WiFi is lame. On Dec 26, 2003, at 9:28 AM, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote: tiBook WiFi is lame. I've got a TiBook and the wireless is lame on it too. My WallStreet with the Orinoco WaveLan card in it worked much better. - web -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 26, 2003, at 12:30 PM, G-Books wrote: Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:45:51 -0500 Subject: Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ?? From: G'kar [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/26/03 3:13 PM, Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have an AlBook, but I do have a tiBook, and it's WiFi is miserable. It would barely do 25 feet straight line of site with no obstructions between my kitchen table and dining room table. Forget going an even shorter distance through a sheet rock wall. tiBook WiFi is lame. There's no question that the tiBook WiFi reception doesn't compare to the iBook's but your reception is so extreme that I can only imagine that something very strange is going on with your computer, the base station, or your home. I have a two story (and basement) home. My base station is in the hall closet putting it roughly in the center of the house vertically and horizontally. It is a first generation airport with no external antenna. Several of my friends own tiBooks and none have trouble with reception on the first floor or outside on the patio. That's anywhere from 30 to 60 feet from the base station. They don't get the same strength of signal as my iBook or new alBook but they can print and surf. They do have varying success connecting when we are in my basement office. I'd agree with Paul.my TiBook with AirPort won't get reception in the living room, 40 feet (through plaster walls) from the dLink router. Out there I'll show maybe two bars, but any connection to a web site or email is refused. My wife's Pismo will still get reception in the back yard, over 100 feet from the router. I can use a PC card and the ioxperts driver to get reception onto the patio (50 feet) with the TiBook, but that's about all. Just reminds me that the Pismo was about as good as it gets for PowerBooks. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 27, 2003, at 2:35 AM, Illovox Media wrote: on 12/26/03 9:28 AM, Andrew, a Mac Freak at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tiBook WiFi is lame. Do you mean AlBook? Why would he mean Al if he said TI? Perhaps because the quote was a response to a remark about the AlBook's WiFi capability, so it seemed a bit out of context. -- P. H. Patch Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 15, 2003, at 1:15 AM, P. H. Adams wrote: I've heard that, in the new AlBooks, sometimes the antenna is loose on delivery. It might help to open it up and reseat the card and the antenna to see if that fixes it before sending off for repair. Kyle, have you found this to be the case? I did check this, and it didn't make a difference. I got my 802.11g router yesterday, and it did make a slight difference. The range is still somewhat lower than my iBook has. In any case, I won't just send it off for repair. The next step may be to take it in to an Apple authorized service center, and have them test it on their network, and switch out the Airport Extreme card to see if that makes a difference. Harry === Harry Corsover, Independent Business Owner Amazing Travel * Health * Legal Tax Benefits Get Send Email by Voice! * Much More! http://www.hc.cyberwize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 877-507-9562 === -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 15, 2003, at 2:23 PM, Harry Corsover wrote: On Dec 14, 2003, at 9:40 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: That's the theory, at least. My Airport reception is about the same as the TiBook's (and much worse than my clamshell iBook's on the same networks). I've got an 802.11g wireless router on the way, and I'm going to test it on that before I take it down to an authorized Apple repair shop. It's much more than a theory. If you look up the side of the display of the AlBook there are 2 cut-outs that are covered with Plastic where the antennae are. My G4 1.33GHz 17 Albook has 2x the airport range of my 667 TiBook DVI. I'm glad it's more than theory for you. I guess there's something wrong with my hardware. With any luck, switching out the Airport Extreme card will take care of it. I don't look forward to having to send my new PowerBook off to Apple for repair, expecially now that I've got everything on it (vs. having a desktop Mac to use as well). I've heard that, in the new AlBooks, sometimes the antenna is loose on delivery. It might help to open it up and reseat the card and the antenna to see if that fixes it before sending off for repair. Kyle, have you found this to be the case? -- P. H. Patch Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On 12/15/03 3:15 AM, P. H. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I've heard that, in the new AlBooks, sometimes the antenna is loose on delivery. It might help to open it up and reseat the card and the antenna to see if that fixes it before sending off for repair. Kyle, have you found this to be the case? I've only set up about 50 or so of the new Albooks and none of them had any problem of any kind except for one. On the 15 Albooks when the lid is closed the lid does not sit evenly. It's a cosmetic/aesthetic thin, but noticeable. -- Kyle H. Hansen It's Always darkest... right before it gets totally black. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
Re; Im not sure about earlier Ti's but my TI 800 also has two antenae covered by plastic ,andI have not noticed any trouble with wireless,however I have no other device to compare it with. It's much more than a theory. If you look up the side of the display of the AlBook there are 2 cut-outs that are covered with Plastic where the antennae are. My G4 1.33GHz 17 Albook has 2x the airport range of my 667 TiBook DVI. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
TiBook vs. AlBook ??
Is there an easy way to recognize the difference between the recent Titanium and the Aluminum case Powerbooks? (I understand that Airport works much better in the aluminum case.) Thanks, - Jim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On 12/14/03 7:58 PM, Jim Mekis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: Is there an easy way to recognize the difference between the recent Titanium and the Aluminum case Powerbooks? (I understand that Airport works much better in the aluminum case.) Rounded edges. -- Kyle H. Hansen It's Always darkest... right before it gets totally black. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 14, 2003, at 5:58 PM, Jim Mekis wrote: Is there an easy way to recognize the difference between the recent Titanium and the Aluminum case Powerbooks? (I understand that Airport works much better in the aluminum case.) That's the theory, at least. My Airport reception is about the same as the TiBook's (and much worse than my clamshell iBook's on the same networks). I've got an 802.11g wireless router on the way, and I'm going to test it on that before I take it down to an authorized Apple repair shop. Harry Corsover === Harry Corsover, Independent Business Owner Amazing Travel * Health * Legal Tax Benefits Get Send Email by Voice! * Much More! http://www.hc.cyberwize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 877-507-9562 === -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On 12/14/03 9:46 PM, Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: On Dec 14, 2003, at 5:58 PM, Jim Mekis wrote: Is there an easy way to recognize the difference between the recent Titanium and the Aluminum case Powerbooks? (I understand that Airport works much better in the aluminum case.) That's the theory, at least. My Airport reception is about the same as the TiBook's (and much worse than my clamshell iBook's on the same networks). I've got an 802.11g wireless router on the way, and I'm going to test it on that before I take it down to an authorized Apple repair shop. It's much more than a theory. If you look up the side of the display of the AlBook there are 2 cut-outs that are covered with Plastic where the antennae are. My G4 1.33GHz 17 Albook has 2x the airport range of my 667 TiBook DVI. -- Kyle H. Hansen It's Always darkest... right before it gets totally black. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: TiBook vs. AlBook ??
On Dec 14, 2003, at 9:40 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: That's the theory, at least. My Airport reception is about the same as the TiBook's (and much worse than my clamshell iBook's on the same networks). I've got an 802.11g wireless router on the way, and I'm going to test it on that before I take it down to an authorized Apple repair shop. It's much more than a theory. If you look up the side of the display of the AlBook there are 2 cut-outs that are covered with Plastic where the antennae are. My G4 1.33GHz 17 Albook has 2x the airport range of my 667 TiBook DVI. I'm glad it's more than theory for you. I guess there's something wrong with my hardware. With any luck, switching out the Airport Extreme card will take care of it. I don't look forward to having to send my new PowerBook off to Apple for repair, expecially now that I've got everything on it (vs. having a desktop Mac to use as well). Harry === Harry Corsover, Independent Business Owner Amazing Travel * Health * Legal Tax Benefits Get Send Email by Voice! * Much More! http://www.hc.cyberwize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 877-507-9562 === -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
