Re: Value of a Pismo?
Geoffrey... I think, given your recent update and the images you supplied, that my original estimate of cost is very close to what you can expect, as they stand. If I were you, I'd try to sell them locally (eg. Australia), if only because international shipping is somewhat prohibitive. I didn't try to do the math on the conversion to Australian value. On #1, the scuffed rubber and chinks around the edges will hurt value, but I still think you are in the ball-game with my estimate. The single bad pixel is only marginably problematic, but a buyer will try to use that as a bargaining point (what else is going wrong with it?). Have you thought of taking the best of each (screen from #2, plastics from the best, even if you have to mix parts, etc.) and make one sterling machine? That would raise value to US$375-500--maybe even US$525, if it is really and honestly primo and you have a motivated buyer). The OS 9.1 system, no disks, is a wash (another reason to rob Peter to pay Paul). The OX 10.3.2 with distro is good and greatly supports the valuation I gave, especially for a single machine made out of the best of both. Think about bundling all the best: Best plastics/Flawless LCD/768 RAM/40 HD/Good battery/VST Zip/Apple case/10.3.2 w-CDs/best AC adapter and cord, all carefully cleaned and detailed (the keymarks on the screen are NOT permanent, regardless of what you've been told. I clean them from my Pismo screen about twice a year)--I say, that makes a really nice package deal for a motivated buyer. Do you have original docs? Then, the other machine could be parted out (even I need another 2.5 drive (though I would like to have 40 GB or even more), and would consider a 500 MHz logic, too--and I'm just one of several, I'm sure). Those parts would bring you $75-120, giving you about US$100 more than my previous estimates. Personally, I'd pay more for a primo Pismo than for a 1st generation TI-Book (and maybe even for 2nd generation--the TI-Books really scuff up bad and show case damage much worse than the Pismos, in my opinion). rb === San Bernardino, CA 92404 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Value of a Pismo?
Stardate 060206.08:21 -0800. A subspace message from R. P. Bell reads: Thanks for all your input, most heartening :D On #1, the scuffed rubber and chinks around the edges will hurt value, but I still think you are in the ball-game with my estimate. The single bad pixel is only marginably problematic, but a buyer will try to use that as a bargaining point (what else is going wrong with it?). Mmm, somewhat expected. Have you thought of taking the best of each (screen from #2, plastics from the best, even if you have to mix parts, etc.) and make one sterling machine? Apart from moving the LCD assemblies over, I already have tried to 'max out' Monolith as best as I can, Pismo 2 took the 'leavings'. (Actually, there was a third Pismo machine in the equation, but that ended up with the somewhat daggy sticker-fested casing that I mentioned in an earlier post, an intact but very dull screen, and the *real* left-overs ... but I did offer the tech who assisted me any pieces left over, working or not, and I heard back from him tonight that he'd found a 400 MHz CPU and 128 MB of RAM, and had already made a poor uni student very happy with a small 'desktop' Pismo computer for A$120 -- a win win situation all round :)) As for the single stuck pixel, I didn't notice that until I was giving it the clean-down (being stuck on blue-white means it blended in very well to the default Aqua desktop), and frankly, I don't think it is very obvious unless you go looking for it, or try to make it display red :). Besides, of the two LCDs, that one is the brighter and less marked of the two. There was also an AirPort card, but I'm staunchly anti-wireless-technology so I gave that to my techie-friend (lucky for him he piped up when he did, I was about to snap it in two). I wouldn't inflict that toxic-ness on anyone, if they wish to be suicidal and add one after they buy my machines, that's their choice. ... the keymarks on the screen are NOT permanent, regardless of what you've been told. I clean them from my Pismo screen about twice a year How do you do it? The suggestions that hit this list a few days ago reference products unavailable in Australia. Do you have original docs? No, alas. Nor the boxes or anything else, purely what you see in the pics. Then, the other machine could be parted out ... Mmm, no, I'm not interested in trying to maximise any return on these two lovelies, all I seek is some redress for my time and the promise they go to a loving home :) I myself have no need for portable computing, and even though both of them rate faster in CPU and bus-speed than Brutus, my beloved G3/300 platinum minitower (call him 'beige' and I'll curse you ;)), is the more flexible machine for my needs, and still does virtually everything I want from a computer these days anyway. I don't game, I don't watch videos (heck, I refuse to watch TV), I dabble some with music, and I write a *lot* of text. I bought a Mac Mini earlier this year, experimented for about three months before I realised I missed the flexibility the G3/300 gave me, couldn't justify the expenditure on a machine I was leaving sit idle more often than not, so I sold it. Got back exactly what I paid for it too :) And that's despite turning it into a FrankenMini, as seen here below: http://madchat.tv/apple/frankenmini The old 630 case was a perfect choice. With the addition of a 2.5 adaptor and some spare parts, Mimi went from a 1.25GHz/256/40/combo entry-level model with the pokey 4200 RPM drive, to a speedy little minx sporting a 7200 RPM Western Digital 8MB Caviar 120 GB and a Pioneer DVR-109. I never did get to finish her properly, but it was a fun hack, and as I still have the 630 shell when I come across a Mini at the right price in the future, Mimi shall be reborn :) ... the TI-Books really scuff up bad and show case damage much worse than the Pismos, in my opinion. Heh, no argument there! When people ask me what laptop they should look at, I always point them to the iBooks. Sturdier, tougher, and more tolerant of the daily grind than any PowerBook, almost as flexible, and still the best portable computing dollar you can get today. The Pismo is, despite what Steve Jon come up with, possibly the second-best machine *EVER* to have come from Apple, with the TAM holding first place. One day I will own a TAM *dreams ...* Anyway. I've got two Wallstreets' worth of parts here, time to see if I can get the Japanese-market version going smoothly at 250 MHz ... Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | --
Value of a Pismo?
I now have a pair of functioning Pismos, and am after some idea of how much they might be worth. Both cases are in good condition, minor scuffing, mild key-marks on the LCD overlay, intact rubberising. I'll put photos up if people are curious. #1 is a PB 500 Firewire, 768/40/DVD, working battery with a 2.5 hr run-time on a charge, VST Zip100 pod, Apple-logo'd carrycase, UFO power-pod, 10.3.2 installed, with pack of original 10.3.2 CDs. #2 is also a PB 500 Firewire, 256/20/DVD, battery is recognised by the machine but won't charge (press the battery button and the first LED blinks a few times, that's it), UFO powerpod, 9.1 installed, no discs. Guesstimates, people? I'm in Australia, but I can convert to A$ from US$ and EU$ ... just after some ideas, all input appreciated. Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Value of a Pismo?
On 2/8/06, Geoffrey Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now have a pair of functioning Pismos, and am after some idea of how much they might be worth. Both cases are in good condition, minor scuffing, mild key-marks on the LCD overlay, intact rubberising. I'll put photos up if people are curious. #1 is a PB 500 Firewire, 768/40/DVD, working battery with a 2.5 hr run-time on a charge, VST Zip100 pod, Apple-logo'd carrycase, UFO power-pod, 10.3.2 installed, with pack of original 10.3.2 CDs. #2 is also a PB 500 Firewire, 256/20/DVD, battery is recognised by the machine but won't charge (press the battery button and the first LED blinks a few times, that's it), UFO powerpod, 9.1 installed, no discs. Guesstimates, people? I'm in Australia, but I can convert to A$ from US$ and EU$ ... just after some ideas, all input appreciated. Geoffrey I wanted to give you a $ figure but with all things its only worth someone is willing to pay for it. I find it best when selling items to look on ebay then look at the used mac sites for a compatible unit. There in the middle is the value. I hope this helps I am sure that many list members will give you a $ amount from their experience with them. I can say that a good pismo is a prize. Steve -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Value of a Pismo?
Geoffrey... Most of us will tell you that, hands down, the Pismo is probably the brightest star ever put in the notebook sky by Apple. True, they are becoming somewhat dated, but my PB 2000-400 Firewire is loaded with 1 GB RAM and a new 30 GB HD, running OS X.3.9 and just keeps on working. The screen is great, the plastics are almost flawless and the keyboard--after several years of operation--is still spot on. Of course, I baby it...and I'll probably take the leap to a new MacBook Pro in another year or so, but when all is said and done, the Pismo is just a great computer at a very attractive price point (high $$ for a used computer, to be sure--especially after 5 years, but then, what PC notebook can compare favorably to that?). You're probably looking at from US$250 to US$400 for #1, depending on condition (especially the LCD; bad pixels really kill the value, as do bad plastics and keyboard), and US$100-200 (max) for #2 (incidentally, can you verify that #2 will boot from the AC adapter?). If you get an off of US$500 cash for both, I'd recommend that you very seriously consider taking it. Shipping from down under will, of course, hurt US sales value. Good luck. rb === San Bernardino, CA 92404 - Original Message - From: Geoffrey Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 5:04 PM Subject: Value of a Pismo? |I now have a pair of functioning Pismos, and am after some idea of | how much they might be worth. Both cases are in good condition, minor | scuffing, mild key-marks on the LCD overlay, intact rubberising. I'll | put photos up if people are curious. | | #1 is a PB 500 Firewire, 768/40/DVD, working battery with a 2.5 hr | run-time on a charge, VST Zip100 pod, Apple-logo'd carrycase, UFO | power-pod, 10.3.2 installed, with pack of original 10.3.2 CDs. | | #2 is also a PB 500 Firewire, 256/20/DVD, battery is recognised by | the machine but won't charge (press the battery button and the first | LED blinks a few times, that's it), UFO powerpod, 9.1 installed, no | discs. | | Guesstimates, people? I'm in Australia, but I can convert to A$ from | US$ and EU$ ... just after some ideas, all input appreciated. | | | Geoffrey | -- | -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- | I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes | ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains | (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) | | -- | G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... | | Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | | | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html | | G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html | -- AOL users, remove mailto:; | Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com | To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ | | | | --- | iPod Accessories for Less | at 1-800-iPOD.COM | Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal | www.1800ipod.com | --- | | -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Value of a Pismo?
Tsk tsk, naughty top-poster! :) Stardate 060208.21:08 -0800. A subspace message from R. P. Bell reads: Most of us will tell you that, hands down, the Pismo is probably the brightest star ever put in the notebook sky by Apple. No argument - why else would OWC still be offering their G4 modification upgrades :) The Amrani-clad Ferrari gets supercharged, woo! (if I were keeping one - I don't have a need for portable computing - I would get this done) You're probably looking at from US$250 to US$400 for #1, depending on condition (especially the LCD; bad pixels really kill the value, as do bad plastics and keyboard) ... #1 has got a single stuck white/blue pixel, roughly in the middle of the top right quadrant of the screen, otherwise it is all good. As I mentioned, rubber is a little scuffed but intact (no aluminium showing), and a few wear-marks scuffs around the corners. Suprisingly, it has all four feet :) http://brains.mine.nu/temp/pismo-1-kit.jpg http://brains.mine.nu/temp/pismo-1-screen.jpg (I forgot to put the original 10.3.2 disc-pack in that shot ... oh well) and US$100-200 (max) for #2 (incidentally, can you verify that #2 will boot from the AC adapter?). This one, the screen overlay has zero dead pixels, but its overlay has a few key-mark rubbing-spots that are noticable when the screen is lit. And she runs fine off the mains :) It does have all four feet mising, though, and a split that runs from the clicker to the latch, along the botton edge of the front. http://brains.mine.nu/temp/pismo-2-kit.jpg http://brains.mine.nu/temp/pismo-2-screen.jpg All keys present on both, all keys work on both. Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
