Re: downloading Windows media player for OS X Tiger to listen to Internet radio program
I ran into this problem the other day when trying to fix a PC using downloads from the Microsoft site to my Mac. I turns out the MS site will only download correctly to MS Explorer browsers on any platform, so you'll need to fire up Explorer and re-download. I don't know if you follow any of this, but evidently both MS Intel write code to make their servers work slower and less reliably with other manufacturer's hardware. This is one of the main contentions in the AMD-Intel lawsuit that's ongoing. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: downloading Windows media player for OS X Tiger to listen to Internet radio program
on 07/10/05 08:11, Kris Tilford at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran into this problem the other day when trying to fix a PC using downloads from the Microsoft site to my Mac. I turns out the MS site will only download correctly to MS Explorer browsers on any platform, so you'll need to fire up Explorer and re-download. I don't know if you follow any of this, but evidently both MS Intel write code to make their servers work slower and less reliably with other manufacturer's hardware. This is one of the main contentions in the AMD-Intel lawsuit that's ongoing. Hmmm, I was able to download the latest Office 2004 Mac patch (service pack 2) from the Microsoft office using Safari... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MS-DOS: /M-S-dos/ n. [MicroSoft Disk Operating System] A clone of CP/M for the 8088 crufted together in 6 weeks by hacker Tim Paterson at Seattle Computer Products, who called the original QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System) and is said to have regretted it ever since. Microsoft licensed QDOS order to have something to demo for IBM on time, and the rest is history. Numerous features, including vaguely Unix-like but rather broken support for subdirectories, I/O redirection, and pipelines, were hacked into Microsoft's 2.0 and subsequent versions; as a result, there are two or more incompatible versions of many system calls, and MS-DOS programmers can never agree on basic things like what character to use as an option switch or whether to be case-sensitive. The resulting appalling mess is now the highest-unit-volume OS in history. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: downloading Windows media player for OS X Tiger to listen to Internet radio program
At 07:11 AM -0500 10/07/2005, Kris Tilford wrote: I ran into this problem the other day when trying to fix a PC using downloads from the Microsoft site to my Mac. I turns out the MS site will only download correctly to MS Explorer browsers on any platform, so you'll need to fire up Explorer and re-download. MS doesn't usually play that game. They either lock you out totally or something else failed. Exactly what browsers did you try (incl version)? What URLs were involved? I don't know if you follow any of this, but evidently both MS Intel write code to make their servers work slower and less reliably with other manufacturer's hardware. This is one of the main contentions in the AMD-Intel lawsuit that's ongoing. Nothing to do with Intel. Nothing to do with hardware. MS modified the standard html handshake that occurs between your browser and their web server product. Essentially, they changed one packet and eliminated another - streamlining the connection process. If the browser recognizes this modified exchange quickly (only IE does) then the server is able to establish the connection faster and marks it as being with IE. If the browser doesn't recognize it (not IE), then after a time-out, the connection is established normally. This time-out has the effect of making non-IE browsers seem slower. (Remember that your browser may open multiple/dozen connections to a server, based on your preference settings). Depending on how the server administrator sets things up, they can lock out non-IE users at that point or they can slow down others, or they can prioritize IE users, or ... well, many things :) While this may seem like a sleezy tactic on MS' part, it should be noted it's all controllable by the local server administrator. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: downloading Windows media player for OS X Tiger to listen to Internet radio program
On Oct 7, 2005, at 5:11 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: I ran into this problem the other day when trying to fix a PC using downloads from the Microsoft site to my Mac. I turns out the MS site will only download correctly to MS Explorer browsers on any platform, so you'll need to fire up Explorer and re-download. That's wrong. On a PC, Windows update stuff only works via IE, but I download files from MS routinely with Safari and Firefox. I rarely even start up IE. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: downloading Windows media player for OS X Tiger to listen to Internet radio program
Hi, I hit the download button on the Windows media player website. An icon with a program did not download. A document with code only downloaded.Do I need to turn off my firewall to receive the icon and program to unstuff an install? I'm new to OS X Tiger. In the Sharing Preference, I have Network Time checked; and, in the Advanced settings, I have marked Enable Stealth Mode and Enable FireWall Logging. I did not mark Block UDP Traffic. Not sure what that is. I'm looking a the the Firewall Log. Looks like there are many entries. Haven't had a chance to read the O'reilly book that goes with OS X Tiger yet. I'm wondering what UDP means and its significance. Any light someone can shed on all this would be helpful. There is a live radio program on the Internet I want to listen to but I need the windows media player, evidently. Thanks. Jocelyn PS I have a new G4 iBook. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: downloading Windows media player for OS X Tiger to listen to Internet radio program
On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I hit the download button on the Windows media player website. An icon with a program did not download. A document with code only downloaded.Do I need to turn off my firewall to receive the icon and program to unstuff an install? No. That sounds like an incomplete or corrupted download. Try here: http://tinyurl.com/ip5y I'm new to OS X Tiger. In the Sharing Preference, I have Network Time checked; and, in the Advanced settings, I have marked Enable Stealth Mode and Enable FireWall Logging. I did not mark Block UDP Traffic. Not sure what that is. I'm looking a the the Firewall Log. Looks like there are many entries. Haven't had a chance to read the O'reilly book that goes with OS X Tiger yet. You will see LOTS of entries in the firewall, they will largely be irrelevant. I'm wondering what UDP means and its significance. Any light someone can shed on all this would be helpful. There is a live radio program on the Internet I want to listen to but I need the windows media player, evidently. Your firewall should not block any activity you initiate on your Mac, like file downloads. UDP is a type of network traffic, which, along with TCP runs on IP networks (hence TCP/IP) http://www-net.cs.umass.edu/kurose/transport/ UDP.html Basically, your computer won't respond to pings, it may not connect via Bonjour (or Rendezvous as it used to be known), and some other network utilities won't find it. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: downloading Windows media player for OS X Tiger to listen to Internet radio program
Hi, I am a lurker and thought that I musht interject at this point. I am a network engineer just an fyi. The UDP box is not your problem. UDP in layman's terms provides a connectionless, unreliable transport service and is generally used in one way communications that use broadcast or multicast IP datagrams. These are usually associated with internet gaming as there is NO guarantee of the packet arriving to its destination. Applications that use UDP must supply there own reliability mechanisms. I hope this helps with your UDP question... Regards, Eric On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I hit the download button on the Windows media player website. An icon with a program did not download. A document with code only downloaded.Do I need to turn off my firewall to receive the icon and program to unstuff an install? I'm new to OS X Tiger. In the Sharing Preference, I have Network Time checked; and, in the Advanced settings, I have marked Enable Stealth Mode and Enable FireWall Logging. I did not mark Block UDP Traffic. Not sure what that is. I'm looking a the the Firewall Log. Looks like there are many entries. Haven't had a chance to read the O'reilly book that goes with OS X Tiger yet. I'm wondering what UDP means and its significance. Any light someone can shed on all this would be helpful. There is a live radio program on the Internet I want to listen to but I need the windows media player, evidently. Thanks. Jocelyn PS I have a new G4 iBook. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
