Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-19 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
laurent:
i am embarrassed to admit this, but i must. the problem seems to be 
that classic runs with os9.1 + and i had installed 9.0! once i ran the 
updaters, the problems started to clear.
i want to thank all of you who patiently guided me through the process.
gladys
On Dec 14, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
Start with your OS 9 install CD. Proceed with the installation. Make 
sure no
option is set to erase the installation volume before proceeding...

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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-19 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 19/12/04 15:39, gladys pérez-almiroty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 laurent:
 i am embarrassed to admit this, but i must. the problem seems to be
 that classic runs with os9.1 + and i had installed 9.0! once i ran the
 updaters, the problems started to clear.
 i want to thank all of you who patiently guided me through the process.
 gladys
 On Dec 14, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 Start with your OS 9 install CD. Proceed with the installation. Make
 sure no
 option is set to erase the installation volume before proceeding...

Glad to hear it's working!

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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-13 Thread Tim
On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:05 PM, gladys pérez-almiroty wrote:
i must be dumb as can be, but i did that and erased everything on the 
drive! how do i do it so that it doesn't erase x and just installs 9?
g
On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Tim wrote:


Are you installing it as Classic on OS X?  If so, just insert your 
disk and install.  Don't try to copy it from the disk.

After you install OS 9, you need to go to your prefs in OS X and 
choose your OS 9 system folder for Classic

I'm not sure how you could have possibly erased an operating system 
that you are running from...

Try it again...   :))
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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-13 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
i used the generic, but i didn't look for that option. see, dumb ;-)
On Dec 13, 2004, at 9:35 AM, John McGibney wrote:
On the OS9 install CD there should be an option to reformat the drive, 
make
sure it isn't checked. Just update the drivers, this should leave your 
drive
intact. Same goes for the X install CD, don't reformat.

Did you use a generic OS9 CD or did you use a CD to restore your 
machine?
The restore CDs will erase the drive and bring it back to original 
state.
Some CDs will let you do reinstallations, others only let you reformat 
and
restore your drive.

John
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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-13 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
isince i could not install it w/out booting, i installed it booting 
from the os 9 cd.
On Dec 13, 2004, at 6:30 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 12, 2004, at 8:05 PM, gladys pérez-almiroty wrote:
i must be dumb as can be, but i did that and erased everything on the 
drive! how do i do it so that it doesn't erase x and just installs 9?
g
On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Tim wrote:


Are you installing it as Classic on OS X?  If so, just insert your 
disk and install.  Don't try to copy it from the disk.

After you install OS 9, you need to go to your prefs in OS X and 
choose your OS 9 system folder for Classic

I'm not sure how you could have possibly erased an operating system 
that you are running from...

Try it again...   :))
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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-13 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
is there a way o install os 9 into a drive that already has x installed 
w/out erasing the content of the drive? my pismo doesn't have classic i 
and i would like to install it there in the off chance that i might 
need it sometime.
g
On Dec 13, 2004, at 4:42 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

on 12/12/04 22:06, gladys pérez-almiroty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if, like you said, you did erase everything on the drive, then
OS X is
gone. Like Tim said, insert the disk and install. That's your only
option.
Then, if you want OS X, you can install it on the same disk after OS 
9
is
installed. If you want to install each OS independently and would 
like
to be
able to wipe one while keeping the other, you would need to partition
your
drive in 2 partitions, before installing anything...

-Laurent.
Yes, install 9 first, then, after you verified it can boot your Mac, 
then
install X after removing that 256MB DIMM.

Remember that everytime you want to install the system, you're better 
off
booting from the installation CD. This is required from OS X. If you 
can't
boot off the install CD, then something is wrong, whether you have a 
version
of the install CD that is incompatible with your Mac or the install CD 
has
been damaged.

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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-13 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 13/12/04 17:29, gladys pérez-almiroty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ok, this is the update:
 the information on the drive was not erased. for some reason i could
 not see it. when i tried to install os 9 again, sure enough, the hd
 shoed up with all its contents. the only problem was that i could not
 change the startup disk. the option key at startup was unresponsive. i
 did an archive and install of os 10.3 and i was up and running, except
 os 9 is gone again! help.

Start with your OS 9 install CD. Proceed with the installation. Make sure no
option is set to erase the installation volume before proceeding...

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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-13 Thread John McGibney
On the OS9 install CD there should be an option to reformat the drive, make
sure it isn't checked. Just update the drivers, this should leave your drive
intact. Same goes for the X install CD, don't reformat.

Did you use a generic OS9 CD or did you use a CD to restore your machine?
The restore CDs will erase the drive and bring it back to original state.
Some CDs will let you do reinstallations, others only let you reformat and
restore your drive.

John

 on 12/12/04 20:05, gladys pérez-almiroty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 i must be dumb as can be, but i did that and erased everything on the
 drive! how do i do it so that it doesn't erase x and just installs 9?
 g





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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-13 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
I think the original OS X installation had to have OS 9 drivers 
installed. Without the drivers, OS 9 can't be installed.

Turtle-Bear
On Dec 13, 2004, at 7:19 AM, gladys pérez-almiroty wrote:
is there a way o install os 9 into a drive that already has x 
installed w/out erasing the content of the drive? my pismo doesn't 
have classic i and i would like to install it there in the off chance 
that i might need it sometime.
g
On Dec 13, 2004, at 4:42 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

on 12/12/04 22:06, gladys pérez-almiroty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if, like you said, you did erase everything on the drive, then
OS X is
gone. Like Tim said, insert the disk and install. That's your only
option.
Then, if you want OS X, you can install it on the same disk after 
OS 9
is
installed. If you want to install each OS independently and would 
like
to be
able to wipe one while keeping the other, you would need to 
partition
your
drive in 2 partitions, before installing anything...

-Laurent.
Yes, install 9 first, then, after you verified it can boot your Mac, 
then
install X after removing that 256MB DIMM.

Remember that everytime you want to install the system, you're better 
off
booting from the installation CD. This is required from OS X. If you 
can't
boot off the install CD, then something is wrong, whether you have a 
version
of the install CD that is incompatible with your Mac or the install 
CD has
been damaged.

-Laurent.
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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-13 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
ok, this is the update:
the information on the drive was not erased. for some reason i could 
not see it. when i tried to install os 9 again, sure enough, the hd 
shoed up with all its contents. the only problem was that i could not 
change the startup disk. the option key at startup was unresponsive. i 
did an archive and install of os 10.3 and i was up and running, except 
os 9 is gone again! help.
gladys

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install 9 on lombard

2004-12-12 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
hi to all:
a stupid question here: how do i install os 9 on a lombard? i have 
tried booting form the original disk and installing with no luck, and 
installing form an os 9 disk. when i boot again it says that the system 
software on the startup disk only functions on the original media, not 
if copied to an other drive. help!
g

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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-12 Thread Ben Dyer
It looks like you're dragging the System folder on the CD to the hard 
disk. Instead, try double-clicking the Installer program on the CD.

Cheers,
Ben
On 12 Dec 2004, at 23:47, gladys pérez-almiroty wrote:
hi to all:
a stupid question here: how do i install os 9 on a lombard? i have 
tried booting form the original disk and installing with no luck, and 
installing form an os 9 disk. when i boot again it says that the 
system software on the startup disk only functions on the original 
media, not if copied to an other drive. help!
g


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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-12 Thread Tim
On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:47 AM, gladys pérez-almiroty wrote:
hi to all:
a stupid question here: how do i install os 9 on a lombard? i have 
tried booting form the original disk and installing with no luck, and 
installing form an os 9 disk. when i boot again it says that the 
system software on the startup disk only functions on the original 
media, not if copied to an other drive. help!
g

Are you installing it as Classic on OS X?  If so, just insert your disk 
and install.  Don't try to copy it from the disk.

After you install OS 9, you need to go to your prefs in OS X and choose 
your OS 9 system folder for Classic
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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 12/12/04 20:05, gladys pérez-almiroty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i must be dumb as can be, but i did that and erased everything on the
 drive! how do i do it so that it doesn't erase x and just installs 9?
 g
 On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Tim wrote:
 
 
 
 Are you installing it as Classic on OS X?  If so, just insert your
 disk and install.  Don't try to copy it from the disk.
 
 After you install OS 9, you need to go to your prefs in OS X and
 choose your OS 9 system folder for Classic

Well, if, like you said, you did erase everything on the drive, then OS X is
gone. Like Tim said, insert the disk and install. That's your only option.
Then, if you want OS X, you can install it on the same disk after OS 9 is
installed. If you want to install each OS independently and would like to be
able to wipe one while keeping the other, you would need to partition your
drive in 2 partitions, before installing anything...

-Laurent.
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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-12 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
i must be dumb as can be, but i did that and erased everything on the 
drive! how do i do it so that it doesn't erase x and just installs 9?
g
On Dec 12, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Tim wrote:


Are you installing it as Classic on OS X?  If so, just insert your 
disk and install.  Don't try to copy it from the disk.

After you install OS 9, you need to go to your prefs in OS X and 
choose your OS 9 system folder for Classic
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Re: install 9 on lombard

2004-12-12 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
Well, if, like you said, you did erase everything on the drive, then 
OS X is
gone. Like Tim said, insert the disk and install. That's your only 
option.
Then, if you want OS X, you can install it on the same disk after OS 9 
is
installed. If you want to install each OS independently and would like 
to be
able to wipe one while keeping the other, you would need to partition 
your
drive in 2 partitions, before installing anything...

-Laurent.

laurent:
this is what i did:
installed 10.3-removing a 256 module. once done, put the 256 back in 
and installed software. then put os 9 disk and tried to install. since 
i could not install, i dragged the system software form disk in the off 
chance i might work. as suspected, it didn't work. then i booted from 
disk and installed os 9 from disk. all over content was erased.
an i getting this right now: install oos9 first, then install over it 
x? i was going to go for the partition alternative, but it is for my 
aunt and this id her first computer and i don't want to confuse her 
more than necessary. she just saw the light- came from the microsoft 
side.
g

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