Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On Jan 3, 2005, at 4:33 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: On Jan 4, 2005, at 1:13 AM, Amber wrote: I have a 15 Al PB and take it with me on the plane frequently with almost no problems at all. The only time it is an issue is when the person in front of me reclines their seat. Some planes have the trays that drop and then extend out - those are great. FWIW I bought one of these at Best Buy and love it. Works in planes and on the couch and folds nice + small to fit in the laptop bag: http://www.targus.com/sg/product_details.asp?sku=PA243B (It was much less in the store. $50 is a bit much. I think it was closer to $30) TjL That looks nice. What type of bottom does it have. Meaning how does it not slip while on your lap? I always seem to be behind the guy that tries to crush by iBook in flight. Or seated next to the person that thinks his space includes my seat. Get a free iPod photo http://www.freephotoipods.com/?r=12366079 AIM: ibook747 MSN Messenger: papockotos Web: http://www.apockotos.com Yahoo Messenger: papockotos Skype Me: callto://apockotos -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
Amber: Maybe you just did not notice how many people on the plane watched the same movie as you did :-). Personally I prefer my new 12'' over the 15'' that I had about a year ago. It is easier to transport and I can use it even when the person in front of me reclines their seat. Display quality is quite OK and at home I use the large Apple Cinema Display. My typical use is similar to the one described by Andrew yesterday. One useful application with this small display is CodeTek VirtualDesktop Pro that enables you to define virtual desktops and assign specific applications to them. That enables me to work more efficiently by grouping applications that are typically used side by side - iPhoto and Photoshop Elements on one screen, Development Environment and Terminal on another screen etc. Just my 2 cents to this discussion. -- Honza www.lesninoviny.com - Blog z lesu a haju Pennsylvanie (.mac: musiljan) (ICQ: 134361915) (Y!: musiljan) (M: +1 610 570 9349) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iPhoto (was: screen sizes vs. reality)
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Andrew F. wrote: Iphoto, at least in the current version, makes all kinds of folders within folders that appear to have nothing to do with organizing pictures. There are folders for thumbs, and cryptic names to these folders and the folders inside them. I used it for a while last year (I have only been in OSX for about a year) and after having to open every single folder under pictures to find my photos, such as my old 2002 - January folder, which had changed and scattered photos that used to (in Windows) be organized the way I wanted them organized. [snip] I'd have to assume that you have need to work on photos *outside* of iPhoto? Otherwise, create your organization scheme *within* the program (left-hand pane; similar to playlists in iTunes) and all should be well. If you *on occasion* need to use a pic outside the program, just export it. If you need to work a lot outside the program, use something else (graphic converter, for example). It'll let you organize outside the program to your heart's content, then treat you to unrestricted browsing within. -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
it does play DVD's etc well. But viewing of the screen by more than one person is definitely not as enjoyable as with the 15.2 and 17. I agree...I have the 15. I was responding to Andrew regarding his 12 PB. However, I don't normally have somebody else looking at my screen while I am working on it (other than DVD's). Yeah, but when the basketball team in your Suburban wants to watch a movie on the way home from an out-of-town game, that 17 screen is nice! : ) Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On Jan 4, 2005, at 11:00 AM, larry Zasitko wrote: I to use CodeTek VirtualDesktop and it is a great program and should be on everyones 'get' list There's also a free alternative Desktop Manager which I use on my screen-challeneged desktop http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/index.php Despite it being 'alpha' software, I've used it daily for months and months, with no problems whatsoever. Requires 10.3. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha r acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
No way would I ever subject my laptop to a group of teens, nor would I ever drive a Suburban for that matter. Andrew On 1/4/05 12:47 PM, Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does play DVD's etc well. But viewing of the screen by more than one person is definitely not as enjoyable as with the 15.2 and 17. I agree...I have the 15. I was responding to Andrew regarding his 12 PB. However, I don't normally have somebody else looking at my screen while I am working on it (other than DVD's). Yeah, but when the basketball team in your Suburban wants to watch a movie on the way home from an out-of-town game, that 17 screen is nice! : ) Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On 1/4/05 12:47 PM, Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: I agree...I have the 15. I was responding to Andrew regarding his 12 PB. However, I don't normally have somebody else looking at my screen while I am working on it (other than DVD's). Yeah, but when the basketball team in your Suburban wants to watch a movie on the way home from an out-of-town game, that 17 screen is nice! : ) I wouldn't trade my 17-inch 1.33GHz for TWO 12-inch powerbooks. If I wanted a PDA I would buy a PDA...(or use a 2400 or a Newton). Kyle Hansen -- The best way out is always through. -- Robert Frost -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
Yeah, but when the basketball team in your Suburban wants to watch a movie on the way home from an out-of-town game, that 17 screen is nice! : ) Claire Hm..that sounds more than a bit risky - having a group of hyped kids messing around with a $4,000 + computer and jostling it around between them. Yikes ! :-) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:04 AM, G-Books wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:26:32 -0800 Subject: Re: screen sizes vs. reality From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] One surprising thing on the 12 is the quality of the sound from the built-in speakers. When I'm in a hotel room the sound is good enough when watching DVD movies that I rarely bother with headphones. I've not tried the sound in the 15 or 17, but in comparison the sound on the Pismo is downright wimpy, as is that on my friend's TiBook and my coworker's current generation 14 iBook. Andrew I'd have to disagree with that oneI think the Lombard/Pismo has the best sounding speakers, and certainly the most volume out of all the recent Powerbooks. I have a Tibook and an iBook, my wife uses a Pismo and it's a lot richer sound than my two 'books. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
The 12 Aluminum's speakers actually have midrange and something almost passing for bass, and sound far richer, at about the same vollume as those of the Pismo. I am comparing them side by side, and the Pismo's 2 speakers don't come close to the sound provided by the 12 Al's 3 (2 regular and one midrange that Apple misnames a subwoofer). Andrew On 4 Jan 2005 at 22:08, Jeff Hubatka wrote: On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:04 AM, G-Books wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:26:32 -0800 Subject: Re: screen sizes vs. reality From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] One surprising thing on the 12 is the quality of the sound from the built-in speakers. When I'm in a hotel room the sound is good enough when watching DVD movies that I rarely bother with headphones. I've not tried the sound in the 15 or 17, but in comparison the sound on the Pismo is downright wimpy, as is that on my friend's TiBook and my coworker's current generation 14 iBook. Andrew I'd have to disagree with that oneI think the Lombard/Pismo has the best sounding speakers, and certainly the most volume out of all the recent Powerbooks. I have a Tibook and an iBook, my wife uses a Pismo and it's a lot richer sound than my two 'books. --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On 1/1/05 9:35 AM, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly I consider my 12 Aluminum to be a bit too large for frequent travel and would prefer something the size and weight of my old Toshiba Portege (11 screen, same 1024X768 resolution, no optical drive and 3lbs), but Apple doesn't make one. For home use, I'm getting quite attached to this Pismo I just bought. Andrew I have a 15 Al PB and take it with me on the plane frequently with almost no problems at all. The only time it is an issue is when the person in front of me reclines their seat. Some planes have the trays that drop and then extend out - those are great. I can continue to use the PB with no problem. The simple drop down trays will not work as well but are fine if the person is not reclining. The screen simply rests back into the area where the tray is when not out. I love the size of the 15 screen, particularly for Photoshop work on the fly and watching DVD's or working on reports. The 12 is simply too small and impractical for most of the stuff I do though. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
Most of what I do is writing (email or actual documents) with very rare spreadsheet and presentation work. I do very little photoshop (other than taking the red out of eyes), but do watch a lot of movies and play the occasional game. For those tasks, the 12 is terrific, as was the 11 I used before. Andrew --- Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/1/05 9:35 AM, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly I consider my 12 Aluminum to be a bit too large for frequent travel and would prefer something the size and weight of my old Toshiba Portege (11 screen, same 1024X768 resolution, no optical drive and 3lbs), but Apple doesn't make one. For home use, I'm getting quite attached to this Pismo I just bought. Andrew I have a 15 Al PB and take it with me on the plane frequently with almost no problems at all. The only time it is an issue is when the person in front of me reclines their seat. Some planes have the trays that drop and then extend out - those are great. I can continue to use the PB with no problem. The simple drop down trays will not work as well but are fine if the person is not reclining. The screen simply rests back into the area where the tray is when not out. I love the size of the 15 screen, particularly for Photoshop work on the fly and watching DVD's or working on reports. The 12 is simply too small and impractical for most of the stuff I do though. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
I do very little photoshop (other than taking the red out of eyes), Just out of curiosity... do you know that iPhoto has that feature just a single click away, or maybe you use the term photoshop in a general photo manipulation meaning? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
On Jan 4, 2005, at 1:13 AM, Amber wrote: I have a 15 Al PB and take it with me on the plane frequently with almost no problems at all. The only time it is an issue is when the person in front of me reclines their seat. Some planes have the trays that drop and then extend out - those are great. FWIW I bought one of these at Best Buy and love it. Works in planes and on the couch and folds nice + small to fit in the laptop bag: http://www.targus.com/sg/product_details.asp?sku=PA243B (It was much less in the store. $50 is a bit much. I think it was closer to $30) TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
I know, just don't like the way that iPhoto hides my jpegs in cryptic locations. I like to organize my photos in actual folders named for date, event or whatever, rather than in iPhoto's arcane hiearchy of cryptically named folders. Andrew --- Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do very little photoshop (other than taking the red out of eyes), Just out of curiosity... do you know that iPhoto has that feature just a single click away, or maybe you use the term photoshop in a general photo manipulation meaning? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
I know, just don't like the way that iPhoto hides my jpegs in cryptic locations. I like to organize my photos in actual folders named for date, event or whatever, rather than in iPhoto's arcane hiearchy of cryptically named folders. Ah, okay. That's exactly the reason I myself hate iPhoto as well. Why couldn't they make it an option, like in iTunes? Here's hoping for iLife '05... But I suppose you can just drag a photo to iPhoto, redo the red eyes, and drag it back...? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Why bother, I just open it in photoshop, which I already had (traded something or other for it way back when, don't remember what). Andrew --- Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, just don't like the way that iPhoto hides my jpegs in cryptic locations. I like to organize my photos in actual folders named for date, event or whatever, rather than in iPhoto's arcane hiearchy of cryptically named folders. Ah, okay. That's exactly the reason I myself hate iPhoto as well. Why couldn't they make it an option, like in iTunes? Here's hoping for iLife '05... But I suppose you can just drag a photo to iPhoto, redo the red eyes, and drag it back...? Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Andrew, On 1/3/05 11:02 AM, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of what I do is writing (email or actual documents) with very rare spreadsheet and presentation work. I do very little photoshop (other than taking the red out of eyes), but do watch a lot of movies and play the occasional game. For those tasks, the 12 is terrific, as was the 11 I used before. Andrew I think the 12 is a great little portable and you're right, it does play DVD's etc well. By Photoshop, I meant I do a significant amount of photo restoration so I need as big a monitor as possible as it is tedious enough work at the best of times. Even the 15 is a bit small - I am looking forward to getting a 20-23 monitor sometime this year. In any case, I think it does boil down to personal preference regarding the size of the laptop/screen. I really like the 15 and don¹t regret the decision at all even though the trade off is that I have to carry an extra pound with me whenever I take it out. Still, worth it for me given that I do a lot of Photoshop work while I'm traveling as well as watching DVD's etc. Clearly the 12 is working well for you and that's great. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iPhoto (was: screen sizes vs. reality)
Uh, correct me if I am wrong but iPhoto does, be default) store all photos by date, at least mine does :-) However you could use a program called iPhoto Buddy that allows you to have separate directories for whatever you want. I use it and have currently around 20 root directories with names that mean something but under that it is all iPhotos standard naming by date. Only issue I don't like is having to close iPhoto to change to another library. Larry On Jan 3, 2005, at 2:33 PM, Andrew wrote: I know, just don't like the way that iPhoto hides my jpegs in cryptic locations. I like to organize my photos in actual folders named for date, event or whatever, rather than in iPhoto's arcane hiearchy of cryptically named folders. Andrew Larry Zasitko iMac 350mhz, Bondi Blue, 320meg ram, Jaguar Graphite Clamshell SE, G3 366mhz, 576 meg ram 12 G4 1.33ghz PowerBook, 768 meg ram, Superdrive, Airport Extreme Newton OMP, 110, 120, 2100 + eMate -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iPhoto (was: screen sizes vs. reality)
Iphoto, at least in the current version, makes all kinds of folders within folders that appear to have nothing to do with organizing pictures. There are folders for thumbs, and cryptic names to these folders and the folders inside them. I used it for a while last year (I have only been in OSX for about a year) and after having to open every single folder under pictures to find my photos, such as my old 2002 - January folder, which had changed and scattered photos that used to (in Windows) be organized the way I wanted them organized. I honestly don't care for the way iTunes does it either, but since I download music and manage the playlists on two iPods, it is a necessary evil. While I never liked Windows Media Player, I did like that its playlists, rather than text or whatever files, could be the contents of a folder on my PC. I'm sure iTunes has a way of doing that too, but like iPhoto, it just sorted my music the way IT wanted to the first time, and it has stayed that way. Andrew On 1/3/05 6:53 PM, larry Zasitko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, correct me if I am wrong but iPhoto does, be default) store all photos by date, at least mine does :-) However you could use a program called iPhoto Buddy that allows you to have separate directories for whatever you want. I use it and have currently around 20 root directories with names that mean something but under that it is all iPhotos standard naming by date. Only issue I don't like is having to close iPhoto to change to another library. Larry On Jan 3, 2005, at 2:33 PM, Andrew wrote: I know, just don't like the way that iPhoto hides my jpegs in cryptic locations. I like to organize my photos in actual folders named for date, event or whatever, rather than in iPhoto's arcane hiearchy of cryptically named folders. Andrew Larry Zasitko iMac 350mhz, Bondi Blue, 320meg ram, Jaguar Graphite Clamshell SE, G3 366mhz, 576 meg ram 12 G4 1.33ghz PowerBook, 768 meg ram, Superdrive, Airport Extreme Newton OMP, 110, 120, 2100 + eMate -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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on 03/01/05 21:00, Andrew F. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iphoto, at least in the current version, makes all kinds of folders within folders that appear to have nothing to do with organizing pictures. There are folders for thumbs, and cryptic names to these folders and the folders inside them. I used it for a while last year (I have only been in OSX for about a year) and after having to open every single folder under pictures to find my photos, such as my old 2002 - January folder, which had changed and scattered photos that used to (in Windows) be organized the way I wanted them organized. I honestly don't care for the way iTunes does it either, but since I download music and manage the playlists on two iPods, it is a necessary evil. While I never liked Windows Media Player, I did like that its playlists, rather than text or whatever files, could be the contents of a folder on my PC. I'm sure iTunes has a way of doing that too, but like iPhoto, it just sorted my music the way IT wanted to the first time, and it has stayed that way. I agree it's a bit annoying but whenever I want a picture, I go in iPhoto, retrieve the picture and then export it. As an added bonus, I can easily choose the resolution and the quality, so depending on the use I'm planning to do with the picture, I might export it at a lower resolution for email or full resolution for including it in a document to be printed. What annoy me a bit more is all the space that those pictures and all the supporting files take on the disk... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bytesexual /bi:t`sek'shu-*l/ adj.: [rare] Said of hardware, denotes willingness to compute or pass data in either big-endian or little-endian format (depending, presumably, on a mode bit somewhere). See also NUXI problem. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iPhoto (was: screen sizes vs. reality)
And don't forget that the arcane file structure of iPhoto makes it more difficult to store those pictures off the hard drive. I have all of my 2002 and older photos on a single DVD (with a duplicate of that DVD just in case). I upgraded to a 5MP camera in 2003, so I use a few more DVDs, but once I have about 3.5-4GB worth of photos on the hard drive, I like to offload them, keeping the recent ones on the hard drive. Andrew On 1/3/05 6:38 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 03/01/05 21:00, Andrew F. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iphoto, at least in the current version, makes all kinds of folders within folders that appear to have nothing to do with organizing pictures. There are folders for thumbs, and cryptic names to these folders and the folders inside them. I used it for a while last year (I have only been in OSX for about a year) and after having to open every single folder under pictures to find my photos, such as my old 2002 - January folder, which had changed and scattered photos that used to (in Windows) be organized the way I wanted them organized. I honestly don't care for the way iTunes does it either, but since I download music and manage the playlists on two iPods, it is a necessary evil. While I never liked Windows Media Player, I did like that its playlists, rather than text or whatever files, could be the contents of a folder on my PC. I'm sure iTunes has a way of doing that too, but like iPhoto, it just sorted my music the way IT wanted to the first time, and it has stayed that way. I agree it's a bit annoying but whenever I want a picture, I go in iPhoto, retrieve the picture and then export it. As an added bonus, I can easily choose the resolution and the quality, so depending on the use I'm planning to do with the picture, I might export it at a lower resolution for email or full resolution for including it in a document to be printed. What annoy me a bit more is all the space that those pictures and all the supporting files take on the disk... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
Amber said: it does play DVD's etc well. But viewing of the screen by more than one person is definitely not as enjoyable as with the 15.2 and 17. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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No it isn't, but then I'm very selfish when it comes to my laptop, and I can't stand people looking over my shoulder at what I'm doing, a definite annoyance when using my Pismo. Andrew On 1/3/05 7:20 PM, Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amber said: it does play DVD's etc well. But viewing of the screen by more than one person is definitely not as enjoyable as with the 15.2 and 17. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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One surprising thing on the 12 is the quality of the sound from the built-in speakers. When I'm in a hotel room the sound is good enough when watching DVD movies that I rarely bother with headphones. I've not tried the sound in the 15 or 17, but in comparison the sound on the Pismo is downright wimpy, as is that on my friend's TiBook and my coworker's current generation 14 iBook. Andrew On 1/3/05 8:23 PM, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it isn't, but then I'm very selfish when it comes to my laptop, and I can't stand people looking over my shoulder at what I'm doing, a definite annoyance when using my Pismo. Andrew On 1/3/05 7:20 PM, Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amber said: it does play DVD's etc well. But viewing of the screen by more than one person is definitely not as enjoyable as with the 15.2 and 17. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 1/3/05 7:20 PM, Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amber said: it does play DVD's etc well. But viewing of the screen by more than one person is definitely not as enjoyable as with the 15.2 and 17. I agree...I have the 15. I was responding to Andrew regarding his 12 PB. However, I don't normally have somebody else looking at my screen while I am working on it (other than DVD's). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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OK, I had a person give me a hard time about a 12 inch LCD screen size and I want to know, do people genuinely have serious complaints about 12 inch screens? I have two units with 12 inch screens, on with a 15 inch, one with a 9.5 inch (my PowerPC PB540c) and even an old black and white PB 170 with a 640 x 400 screen. I find that 12 inch is fine. My blueberry iBook is a wonderful, use-able unit and the only time I have a problem with screen size is when some dufis designs an application program with too many pallets and menu pannels that can't be resized or hidden. OK, here's the kicker, the complaint wasn't about a 12 inch LCD on a powerbook or iBook, it was my father's current wife complaining about the heavily upgraded, 500MHz G3 powered 20th Annaversary Macintosh. I have one just like it and it's one of the finest units ever designed, essentially a PowerBook in a desktop case with a fantastic sterio built in. Back to my original question, do people have genuine issues with 12 inch screen size? Victor -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Back to my original question, do people have genuine issues with 12 inch screen size? Of course they do, but people will have issues with basically everything, because computers are used for so many things. If you're an average graphic designer, 12 inches is just too small. The 1024x768 resolution doesn't provide enough real estate for all the palettes. In theory, you can make the resolution (density) bigger to some extent, but then the pixels will be just too small for human eye. You will have to make the widgets/fonts bigger, and you're back to square one. Remember you're talking about people who Apple designed 30-inch LCDs for. Including the possibility of putting two of them side by side. For other uses, 12-inch displays might be perfect. Keep in mind that people were using 9 Macintoshes (or even those tiny 5 screens on Osbornes earlier) and getting their work done. (I've deliberately left out the distinction between portable and stationary computers, which was absent in the original question.) Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
I have and still use a 366 graphite iBook and I bought a new PowerBook around 8 months ago 12 with a superdrive and 768meg of ram. I like the size of the PowerBook and really don't have any issues with the smaller screen over the 15. I have used a 17 PowerBook from time to time (brother in law's) and though it is nice it not pleasant to lug around, the biggest plus being the screen real estate that you have. I still use the iBook and don't have any problems with the screen size outside of resolution limitations for some of the new programs, but I can deal with it. On Jan 1, 2005, at 8:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip- Back to my original question, do people have genuine issues with 12 inch screen size? Victor Snip- Larry Zasitko iMac 350mhz, Bondi Blue, 320meg ram, Jaguar Graphite Clamshell SE, G3 366mhz, 576 meg ram 12 G4 1.33ghz PowerBook, 768 meg ram, Superdrive, Airport Extreme Newton OMP, 110, 120, 2100 + eMate -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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12 was the big-size in 1997, and remains a comfortable size for a laptop screen. 14 or larger is great for extended viewing or poor eyesight. What really matters is resolution, with 1024X768 being the minimum useful resolution today as many websites are simply wider than 800 pixels and horizontal scrolling is a royal pain. Of course, all of Apple's current 12 panels are 1024X768, as is their 14, so the only real difference is the actual size of the pixels, not how many there are. 12 is a comfortable size, 14 is just a little bit more comfortable, but at a price in size and weight that is just too high for a truly portable machine. Honestly I consider my 12 Aluminum to be a bit too large for frequent travel and would prefer something the size and weight of my old Toshiba Portege (11 screen, same 1024X768 resolution, no optical drive and 3lbs), but Apple doesn't make one. For home use, I'm getting quite attached to this Pismo I just bought. Andrew On 1/1/05 7:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I had a person give me a hard time about a 12 inch LCD screen size and I want to know, do people genuinely have serious complaints about 12 inch screens? I have two units with 12 inch screens, on with a 15 inch, one with a 9.5 inch (my PowerPC PB540c) and even an old black and white PB 170 with a 640 x 400 screen. I find that 12 inch is fine. My blueberry iBook is a wonderful, use-able unit and the only time I have a problem with screen size is when some dufis designs an application program with too many pallets and menu pannels that can't be resized or hidden. OK, here's the kicker, the complaint wasn't about a 12 inch LCD on a powerbook or iBook, it was my father's current wife complaining about the heavily upgraded, 500MHz G3 powered 20th Annaversary Macintosh. I have one just like it and it's one of the finest units ever designed, essentially a PowerBook in a desktop case with a fantastic sterio built in. Back to my original question, do people have genuine issues with 12 inch screen size? Victor -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: screen sizes vs. reality
At 10:11 AM -0500 1/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I had a person give me a hard time about a 12 inch LCD screen size and I want to know, do people genuinely have serious complaints about 12 inch screens? I have two units with 12 inch screens, on with a 15 inch, one with a 9.5 inch (my PowerPC PB540c) and even an old black and white PB 170 with a 640 x 400 screen. I find that 12 inch is fine. My blueberry iBook is a wonderful, use-able unit and the only time I have a problem with screen size is when some dufis designs an application program with too many pallets and menu pannels that can't be resized or hidden. OK, here's the kicker, the complaint wasn't about a 12 inch LCD on a powerbook or iBook, it was my father's current wife complaining about the heavily upgraded, 500MHz G3 powered 20th Annaversary Macintosh. I have one just like it and it's one of the finest units ever designed, essentially a PowerBook in a desktop case with a fantastic sterio built in. Back to my original question, do people have genuine issues with 12 inch screen size? I have a fifteen inch screen iBook and have used a 12 screen iBook. They have the same resolution (1024x768. I prefer the 15 because it's easier on the eyes. But the 12 is quite useable and amazingly clear. I think if I were to use one steadily it might get to me. I think it comes down to what you are comfortable with. Newer screens are usually sharper. I also have a collection of older powerbooks and this iBook screen is a lot better. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I'm using a 12 inch iBook (G4) and I love it. I have no difficulty with reading ANYTHING. I use Word and Photoshop on it and it's just fine. Now, some people will complain.but this iBook is fast and very portable. I use it more than my desktop. My wife just replace her old 12 inch powerbook with a 14 inch iBook because she didn't like having to use her reading glassesbut she used the powerbook for over 2 years. 12 inch display is just fine. Now my 20 inch G5 iMac is really enjoyable, but I can't pick it up and carry it around with me. Tim On 1/1/05 10:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I had a person give me a hard time about a 12 inch LCD screen size and I want to know, do people genuinely have serious complaints about 12 inch screens? I have two units with 12 inch screens, on with a 15 inch, one with a 9.5 inch (my PowerPC PB540c) and even an old black and white PB 170 with a 640 x 400 screen. I find that 12 inch is fine. My blueberry iBook is a wonderful, use-able unit and the only time I have a problem with screen size is when some dufis designs an application program with too many pallets and menu pannels that can't be resized or hidden. OK, here's the kicker, the complaint wasn't about a 12 inch LCD on a powerbook or iBook, it was my father's current wife complaining about the heavily upgraded, 500MHz G3 powered 20th Annaversary Macintosh. I have one just like it and it's one of the finest units ever designed, essentially a PowerBook in a desktop case with a fantastic sterio built in. Back to my original question, do people have genuine issues with 12 inch screen size? Victor -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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It seems that many of the answers flowing here on this New Year's Day are missing the point of the question. The original poster's father's wife is apparently a middle-aged to older person. But we do not know whether her corrected eyesight is 20/20 or 20/100. Yes, a 12 inch screen may be a serious hindrance for someone with less than average eyesight. There are many eye conditions that will preclude use of a 12 inch screen at 1024 x 768 resolution. In one example, a person with cataracts may fail reading that 12 inch screen, but the same person after cataract removal and artificial lens replacement with rejuvenated vision at 20/20 or better can now enjoy that 12 incher. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I had a person give me a hard time about a 12 inch LCD screen size and I want to know, do people genuinely have serious complaints about 12 inch screens? Back to my original question, do people have genuine issues with 12 inch screen size? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
screen sizes vs. reality
I have a 13.3 Wall Street. Perhaps I'm spoiled by the external 17 monitor I've used the past few years to made surfing and working easier, but when I travel I find the smaller screen size confining and some smaller print on websites harder to read. Best reason for using an external monitor at home if you have a smaller screen: it prolongs the life of the screen, the most expensive part of the laptop! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
