Re: Which printer do you like?

[Paul]

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned HP yet. Maybe it's because their
recent consumer models are a far cry from their venerable Laserjets.

I print a lot of text, and use a Kodak kiosk at a supermarket for
occasional photos, so I got a used HP laser printer (no color), the
Laserjet 2200d. (The "d" means duplexing. The 2200 prints one side
only.) I use it with a PC, but there are postscript drivers for it for
OS X, OS 9, and probably earlier. It probably was an office machine
made for use by a small workgroup. It's not hard for one reasonably
strong person to carry, easier than a 17" CRT monitor.

The older HP's are very durable and inexpensive as used models (people
often give away ones in very good condition around here), and the
toner cartridges tend to hold more toner than the later consumer
models. That makes them cost a lot less per page. Someone gave me a
Laserjet 5mp, which has postscript, a parallel port, and an older
round Apple Talk port, but no USB.

HP isn't particularly known for its color laser printers, but their
better monochrome Laserjets have an excellent reputation and last
forever. Their recent consumer stuff isn't known for durability or low
cost per page.

Most of the Laserjets with a good reputation use a Canon printing
engine. For instance, the Canon LBP-32X engine is in all of these
printers:

Canon LBP-1000
Canon LBP-32X
Canon P 100
HP LaserJet 2100
HP LaserJet 2100m
HP LaserJet 2100se
HP LaserJet 2100tn
HP LaserJet 2100xi
HP LaserJet 2200d
HP LaserJet 2200dn
HP LaserJet 2200dt
HP LaserJet 2200dtn
HP LaserJet 2210



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Re: Trouble reading certain DVD's in SR-8585F DVD-ROM drive

[Charles Lenington]

Bruce Johnson wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Paul wrote:
>
>   

snip--
> ONe of the LEM powerbook lists (the gbook list perhaps) just had a  
> discussion about this with specific brand mentions.
>
>   

The op is the same on both lists.


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Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.

[Charles Lenington]

diane wrote:
> At 12:21 PM -0500 12/22/08, Dan wrote:
>   
>> yea.  I've seen that the new ones are brighter, but their light is
>> still blueish and flickers.  Just plain nasty to read by.
>> 
>
>
> I tried them years ago and swore off them. Last year I tried again 
> and they are much better than before. My office now glows, I used the 
> daylight ones. So far I have had good luck with GE. One just burned 
> out on me (mostly, it lights up a little) and I have to see if they 
> will honor the warranty, I have saved everything for them.
>
> I got "Home Depot" ones and they were horrible.
>
> Diane
>   
That's where they make their money, how many people are going to keep 
the warranty info around for 5 years? Open package, install bulbs, trash 
package. After one year warranty, where is original package, sorry no 
proof no warranty.


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Re: AGP G4 in a B&W case

[dc]

If you put a G4 ZIF, something like a Sonnet 500 MHz G4, and a PCI
hard drive controller card, either SCSI or ATA, into your B&W it would
essentailly become a Sawtooth and you wouldn't have to hassle with
changing the mobo, back panel, etc. But for the money you'd spend on
the G4 ZIF you could pick up a G4 from Craigslist or some other local
seller.

On Dec 22, 6:20 pm, "John Ruschmeyer"  wrote:
> A question for the hardware experts.
>
> I have a rev.1 B&W G3 which I am happy with, but would really like to move
> to a G4, preferably something later than a Yikes.
>
> I was thinking that it might be cheaper (at least on shipping) if I could
> somehow swap an AGP motherboard into the B&W case and use the existing
> drives, PS, etc. Based on my reading of the web, it seems like I might be
> able to get away with swapping in a Sawtooth motherboard, provided I also
> swap the back panel.
>
> Will this work (Sawtooth in a B&W case/PS)? And, if so, have any of you done
> it already?
>
> Thanks.
>
> John Ruschmeyer
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Re: Which printer do you like?

[PeterH]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Paul wrote:

> Most of the Laserjets with a good reputation use a Canon printing
> engine. For instance, the Canon LBP-32X engine is in all of these
> printers:
>
> Canon LBP-1000
> Canon LBP-32X
> Canon P 100
> HP LaserJet 2100
> HP LaserJet 2100m
> HP LaserJet 2100se
> HP LaserJet 2100tn
> HP LaserJet 2100xi
> HP LaserJet 2200d
> HP LaserJet 2200dn
> HP LaserJet 2200dt
> HP LaserJet 2200dtn
> HP LaserJet 2210

Canon's generic products (those which have all the capabilities of a  
"marking engine", but no interface besides its proprietary "video  
interface") are all called LBPs ... Laser Beam Printers.

The early LaserWriters were quite simply an LBP with an Apple- 
designed PostScript RIP (Raster Image Processor), with the PostScript  
interpreter from Adobe Systems. (Adobe designed numerous RIPs ...  
Atlas, Redstone, etcetera, all generally named for missiles ... but  
Apple's RIP was its own design, and was considerably simpler that of  
Adobe's, or anyone else's ... more reliable, too). The basic LBP had  
its top removed and replaced by an Apple-molded top (the piece with  
the Apple logo). The Apple RIP was fitted into holes already present  
in the LBP, and the RIP was cabled to the LBP's video interface, and  
also to the RS-422/RS-232 connector box, which replaced Canon's video  
connector box).

LaserWriter and LaserWriter Plus = LBP-CX = CX Marking Engine (Also  
LaserJet and LaserJet Plus)

LaserWriter II = LBP-SX = SX Marking Engine (Also LaserJet II and III)

LaserWriter Pro 630 and LaserWriter 16/600 = LBP-EX = EX Marking  
Engine (Also LaserJet 4)

Canon LBPs of most types are one of the few printer families for  
which replacement and repair parts are widely available.

Countless LaserWriters and LaserJets are discarded each year because  
of a failed (paper) pickup roller, which are widely available for  
about $6, yet take several hours to install.

Fuser rollers are available, too, for about $10, but the replacement  
procedure is quite difficult. Complete fuser assemblies are often  
available at reasonable cost, about $50 for the most popular models,  
on an exchange basis.

Apple has never offered its LaserWriter repair manuals for sale.  
However, HP has, and although these initially cost about $25, these  
now cost several times that amount.

Doubtless, one can probably find a scan of a repair manual on-line.


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Re: natd issue, perhaps security problem?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 22, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> My dual 2.3 GHz G5 w/10.5.6 froze strangely with the cursor & mouse
> still moving with the spinning beachball icon, and no other
> functionality. The clock was frozen also. I waited 5 minutes and
> nothing changed. No commands for "Force Quit" worked, so I rebooted by
> holding the power button on the case.
>
> Upon reboot something different happened. I have Little Snitch
> installed. A process called "natd" wanted to connect to "local.host"
> via many UDP ports (about 20 total) in the series between 49159 and
> 49195.
>
> A Google search of "natd" and "OS X" seems to indicate there may be
> some security issue, however this report says that ALL versions of OS
> X are vulnerable EXCEPT version 10.5.6 that I'm using?:
>
> 
>
> I "allowed" these connections in Little Snitch, thinking they were
> normal OS X things, but now I'm not sure? This was on initial boot, no
> applications were running other than the login items. Here's the login
> items list:
> iTunesHelper, ATI Monitor, Airport Base Station Agent,
> FontExplorerXAutoload, SMARTReporter, gtslauncherdaemon, EyeTV Helper.
>
> I've rebooted several times, and each time this entire string of natd
> connections wants to connect. This is very different behavior than
> before. The strange freeze with the mouse working but everything else
> frozen seems to me that it might be a "buffer overflow" as minimally
> described in the recent security bulletin above?

No.

Reading further in that bulleting they state:

"Currently we are not aware of any working exploits. If you feel we  
are in error or if you are aware of more recent information, please  
mail us at: vu...@securityfocus.com."

And following up on the links there is this description from APple:

"network_cmds
CVE-ID: CVE-2008-4222

Available for: Mac OS X v10.4.11, Mac OS X Server v10.4.11, Mac OS X  
v10.5 through v10.5.5, Mac OS X Server v10.5 through v10.5.5

Impact: A remote attacker may be able to cause a denial of service if  
Internet Sharing is enabled

Description: An infinite loop may occur in the handling of TCP packets  
in natd. By sending a maliciously crafted TCP packet, a remote  
attacker may be able to cause a denial of service if Internet Sharing  
is enabled. This update addresses the issue by performing additional  
validation of TCP packets. Credit to Alex Rosenberg of Ohmantics, and  
Gary Teter of Paizo Publishing for reporting this issue."

So, SPOD, yes, odd conncets from other system components, no.

Also, note this is ONLY if you're using Internet sharing on your Mac  
(Not Web sharing, not File sharing, not Remote login) since this is  
the only reason ever to run natd.

-- 

Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 22, 2008, at 7:27 PM, D Stubbs wrote:

> We have run all the invoices for our biz for many years with what to  
> me is
> the work horse of printers - the Epson Stylus 740. I think we paid  
> $40 for
> it  about 9 years ago.

There's one point I'd like to bring up in here.

If you print EVERY DAY, these things are major workhorses, and go  
forever. If you don't they're clogging nightmares, particularly in dry  
climates (either for real like here in the desert SW, or artifical in  
a heated space in winter)

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[cheryl]

Wow, I didn't think I'd get so many responses! Thanks so much.

I've only had an Epson Stylus years ago and then this HP for the last
5 years or so. Both were inkjet not laser, so I don't know anything
about laser printers.

I'm not going to be doing a lot of printing. One thing I liked about
my old Epson was that you could do a lesser-quality print like a draft
which used less ink if you just needed a reference photo or to print
out a list. Or were printing out a walkthrough for an adventure game.
LOL! I do photos occasionally, and one thing I really want to be able
to do again is print my own business cards. I know it's expensive to
do it yourself, but I print them up maybe 40 or 50 at a time and I
don't need 1000 of them. The HP is a tray feed so I couldn't make them
myself because the perforations would break when it went through the
rollers and I'd end up with it all screwed up.

There are times when my printer will sit for months unused, and then
I'll use it several times. So a printer that clogs easily is probably
not a good thing. I also can't spend more than about $100. Boy I'm
asking a lot, huh?

Now that I think of it I need decent photo printing because I do image
transfers that I put on polymer clay as part of my artwork. For what I
do it doesn't have to be top quality but it at least has to be
decent.





On Dec 23, 8:03 am, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2008, at 7:27 PM, D Stubbs wrote:
>
> > We have run all the invoices for our biz for many years with what to  
> > me is
> > the work horse of printers - the Epson Stylus 740. I think we paid  
> > $40 for
> > it  about 9 years ago.
>
> There's one point I'd like to bring up in here.
>
> If you print EVERY DAY, these things are major workhorses, and go  
> forever. If you don't they're clogging nightmares, particularly in dry  
> climates (either for real like here in the desert SW, or artifical in  
> a heated space in winter)
>
> --
> Bruce Johnson
> University of Arizona
> College of Pharmacy
> Information Technology Group
>
> Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
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Re: Which printer do you like?

[diane]

I will say I've never had a clog with my Epson Stylus R200 and I do 
use generic inks.

I was always a big HP fan till I was way behind technology with a 
non-USB machine and HP dropped the old serial port. I then switched 
to Epson.

Diane

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Re: Titanium 400Mhz Powerbook won't start

[nestamicky]

jonas ulrich wrote:
> I had a tibook 2002 for about a week before I returned it with a bad 
> mother board. When you say it doesn't give a beep are you talking 
> about the apple chime? Does it even get power? These laptops were 
> very inconsistent. Some of them will overheat and melt as shown in the 
> five links. imgres 
> 
>  imgres 
> 
>  imgres 
> 
>  imgres 
> 
>   imgres 
> 
>  . 
> Some just don't work well. But there are some, the later models, that 
> work great.
To be honest with you, I'm wondering if it's receiving power. Perhaps I 
can get a second confirmation on whether the Powerbook G4 Titanium 
400Mhz uses a 45W or 65W adapter. I've uised 45 on it and it does not 
come on. I need to rule out the power adapter, and start considering 
other issues to fix this.

I hope mine is among the "latter models".
> -Jonas
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Kris Tilford  > wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2008, at 4:36 PM, nestamicky wrote:
>
> > Someone said I can use the 45W PSU and it should work. I have a few
> > of those that I used, including a 2002 flying-saucer looking
> PSU. None
> > worked. I know the adapters work.
>
> There are two types of plugs on the PSUs, they look identical, but the
> older ones have a larger diameter center plug, and the newer are
> smaller in the center. If you use the newer smaller size PSU with a
> Mac that needs the older larger size it won't make contact and work.
> I'm not familiar with the TiBook, but they were made in 2001 when the
> clamshell iBooks that used the older standard plug where changing to
> the white iceBooks that use the newer standard plug, so it seems
> likely that your 2001 TiBook won't work with your 2002+ adapters?
>
>
>
>
>
> >

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[MIKO ..]

On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Vic wrote:

>> I hate Epson printers.  They use a technology that keeps the same  
>> print
>> heads for the life of the printer and use a nipple injection system  
>> that
>> frequently gums up and requires maintenance using more of your ink.
>>
>> HP on the other hand, when you replace the cartridge you replace  
>> the ink (it
>> is self contained so no messy spills of clogged nozzles) and the  
>> print head
>> all at the same time.
>>
>> Kyle Hansen
>> --
>> This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter.
>
> Ditto on Epson - I've thrown away two of them that each worked for a
> little while, but my 10-year-old HP still works as well as it ever
> did...

I'm so happy to see we all hate the low-end Epson printers!

Oh and to be more specific- I've ALWAYS had problems with one of the  
"colors" eventually not printing at all- the print head issue is  
ridiculous!

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Re: how to read PC formatted hard drives _ follow up

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

I replaced the internal CD drive with a DVD ROM, installed Tiger  
(which, indeed is pretty usable on this 450 MHz G3) and managed to  
grab the files I needed from the IDE HD!

many thanks,

Ben

On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:53 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 22, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Ok, will install 10.3 and see, many thanks!
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>>
>>> OS X 10.3 and higher can read NTFS, but you need to hack things
>>> around
>>> to write to them. (using MacFUSE and NTFS3G)
>>>
>>> However with 10.2.8, you're ool, I think. I don't remember ever  
>>> being
>>> able to get NTFS working on the Mac back then.
>>>
>
>
> It will require patience...I remember being very excited that 10.3 was
> going to have NTFS compatibility, but it's slooow.
>
> -- 
> Bruce Johnson
> University of Arizona
> College of Pharmacy
> Information Technology Group
>
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>
>
>
> >


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Re: Powerbook G4 17" 1.67 Mhz HD cable

[MIKO ..]

It might also be worth looking up the fix online like at ifixit.com or  
similar since repair costs so much.

On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:23 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:

> Well if you can't access the hard drive through firewire from  
> another mac, then I think it is the hard drive cable. I have the  
> exact same laptop and I think it is worth fixing. How much does it  
> cost?
> -Jonas
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM, nestamicky   
> wrote:
>
>
> jonas ulrich wrote:
>>
>> There are some simple tests that you can perform. Get a firewire  
>> cable and connect to another mac. Then from the other mac boot into  
>> the powerbooks hard drive. If you still just get the grey screen  
>> than it's probably just the hard drive cable.
>> -Jonas
> I've done this, using T at startup, but I can't access the HD on  
> this powerbook.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, nestamicky   
>> wrote:
>> Some of you may recall the thread I started about this Powerbook G4  
>> 17" 1.67 Mhz, with a Superdrive and a stick of 1GB RAM. I still  
>> have it. And the problem still exists, as is recorded here.
>>
>> But in summary, it it starts, bongs/chimes and gives grey screen.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/4x29ks
>>
>> Do you good folks think changing the cable for the hard drive would  
>> get this working?
>>
>> Thanks for reading, thinking and responding.
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Re: Which printer do you like?

[MIKO ..]

On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Tom wrote:

> My Epson Stylus Photo R1800 makes beautiful prints from digital photos
> or scans. Occasionally a print head will clog and need cleaning, and
> that wastes ink, but the prints are so good that I put up with it.

Tom, the more expensive Epsons are fine... they do make lovely  
printers, and artists swear by them.  But if you've never used an  
Epson that was under $200- trust me- the quality falls healdlong into  
the abysmal Abyss.

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Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.

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There's only one way to properly clean up an old Mac, if it still  
works at all:  get it to Mexico somehow.  They have so few computers  
down there.  I was in a city of over a million (Chihuahua) and they  
were using 486 and 386 pcs in the place where you'd go an PAY to use a  
computer- and the place was packed!  No one has anything down there,  
not even in cities of millions of people!  Get those old working Macs  
to Mexico!

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[insightinmind]

I like any and all of the printers that have reasonably priced ink  
cartridges ...

Model Names:

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Fabian Fang]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:40 AM, cheryl wrote:

> LOL! I do photos occasionally, and one thing I really want to be able
> to do again is print my own business cards. I know it's expensive to
> do it yourself, but I print them up maybe 40 or 50 at a time and I
> don't need 1000 of them. The HP is a tray feed so I couldn't make them
> myself because the perforations would break when it went through the
> rollers and I'd end up with it all screwed up.

Since you mentioned "print my own business cards," I have been using a  
Canon Pixma MP500 multi-function inkjet to print personal cards, with  
layout templates from Apple Pages, and on to Avery 8376 "Matte Ivory"  
blank cards.  The printer works so well for this that others have  
complimented me about the cards, and several friends have asked me to  
make cards for them.  The Canon MP500 is a few years old, but there  
are other newer models in the same series.

In my experience, Canon has provided excellent support for all  
versions of Mac OS X so far, including Leopard.


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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Paxton]

I have been using Goodwill printers at about $10 each, specializing in
HP Photosmart 7350s and 7550s. I use these because I standardized on
the 56, 57 and 58 ink carts. They seem to work well however the door
to change the ink carts is a little flaky so I check those out before
I buy one.

I have refilled these 5X carts with a Costco refill kit but abandoned
it. The color was acceptable but noticeably worse than using HP carts.

I have had good luck printing with them both photos and text, on Mac
(10.3.9) , PC (XP & 98) and Linux (Ubuntu). I also travel for several
months at a time and have always had good luck in coming back and
using the printer after it has not been used for two or three months.

I also have a Lexmark E234n Network laser printer that I also got at
Goodwill for $10. Had to change the feed roller (actually just turned
them over.) Works really well as a B&W network printer. Very quick.
Works well with the Macs. It replaced a networked Laserjet 5 that also
worked with the Macs (OS9.2).

My next printer I am looking for is a Epson 2400  printer with pigment
inks for studio quality Photo reproduction. Hoping to find one in
Goodwill.


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Re: natd issue, perhaps security problem?

[Kris Tilford]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> Also, note this is ONLY if you're using Internet sharing on your Mac
> (Not Web sharing, not File sharing, not Remote login) since this is
> the only reason ever to run natd.

Bruce to the rescue.

It's an Internet Sharing thing. I'd totally forgotten that I'd tried  
to use Internet Sharing for a very hampered iBook. I'm glad it wasn't  
any security threat, but in all my years of using Macs the type of  
freeze where the clock and everything is frozen except the cursor is  
rare, and this coincidence combined with the Google result misled me.

I was attempting to use Internet Sharing over Firewire. That day I had  
no luck with Firewire networking, the client computer's Firewire  
network port wasn't recognized in Network Preferences for some reason.  
I'll disable Internet Sharing for now since it sets off this monster  
flurry of natd connections at startup.

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Kyle Hansen]

On 12/22/08 9:26 PM, "PeterH"  Broadcast into
the ether:

> My LaserWriters remain available for the few times when I need
> absolute PostScript compatibility.

Most Laserwriters were made by HP with an apple logo stamped on at the end.

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Kyle Hansen]

On 12/23/08 8:40 AM, "cheryl"  Broadcast into the
ether:

> There are times when my printer will sit for months unused, and then
> I'll use it several times.

DO NOT GET AN EPSON THEN!

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Kyle Hansen]

On 12/23/08 8:03 AM, "Bruce Johnson" 
Broadcast into the ether:

> 
> If you print EVERY DAY, these things are major workhorses, and go
> forever. If you don't they're clogging nightmares, particularly in dry
> climates (either for real like here in the desert SW, or artifical in
> a heated space in winter)

That's the best way to put it.  "if you use them multiple times a day every
day they are usually fine.  IF not the jam and clog and are nightmares."

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Clark Martin]

cheryl wrote:
> Wow, I didn't think I'd get so many responses! Thanks so much.
> 
> I've only had an Epson Stylus years ago and then this HP for the last
> 5 years or so. Both were inkjet not laser, so I don't know anything
> about laser printers.
> 
> I'm not going to be doing a lot of printing. One thing I liked about
> my old Epson was that you could do a lesser-quality print like a draft
> which used less ink if you just needed a reference photo or to print
> out a list. Or were printing out a walkthrough for an adventure game.
> LOL! I do photos occasionally, and one thing I really want to be able
> to do again is print my own business cards. I know it's expensive to
> do it yourself, but I print them up maybe 40 or 50 at a time and I
> don't need 1000 of them. The HP is a tray feed so I couldn't make them
> myself because the perforations would break when it went through the
> rollers and I'd end up with it all screwed up.
> 
> There are times when my printer will sit for months unused, and then
> I'll use it several times. So a printer that clogs easily is probably
> not a good thing. I also can't spend more than about $100. Boy I'm
> asking a lot, huh?

At the school where I worked we had about 30 Epson 940N (IIRC) printers. 
   Every summer the printers sat idle.  Every fall it was a major 
undertaking to clear out the inkjets.  It usually consisted of printing 
pages with large blocks of cyan, magenta, yellow and black.  It usually 
used up the better part of an ink cartridge.  Then it would happen 
through the year on certain printers that didn't get used often.

We later switched to HP inkjet printers.  I don't think we had very many 
of those printers have problems with the ink drying up over the summer 
or through the year.

Another issue we ran into was the Epsons loaded paper from the top rear 
and the output was in front of that also on the top.  You wouldn't 
believe the stuff we found inside.  This was another reason for choosing 
the HPs, the paper in and out was in the front and the top was 
completely covered.

> 
> Now that I think of it I need decent photo printing because I do image
> transfers that I put on polymer clay as part of my artwork. For what I
> do it doesn't have to be top quality but it at least has to be
> decent.



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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Al]

On Dec 22, 3:17 pm, cheryl  wrote:
> I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's
> really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers
> but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a
> Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks!

Folks get passionate about Epson, but if your priority is for the best
photo quality at home user prices, get an Epson which features their
Claria Hi-Definition ink.  We have a Stylus Photo RX595, a 2007 all-in-
one model, which works great with no clogging problems.  For  years we
used the Epson 740 with great photo quality.

For best text quality, avoid Epson.  We have a Canon Pixma iP4500
which does very nicely, also a 2007 model.  Some HPs also get very
good ratings for text.

I've never seen any reports praising Brother ink jets for quality of
output.

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Clark Martin]

Kyle Hansen wrote:

> Most Laserwriters were made by HP with an apple logo stamped on at the end.

I believe most LaserWriter ENGINES were made by Canon.  I don't know if 
Apple built the cases and other parts or Canon built the whole thing. 
HP ALSO used Canon engines a lot.


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Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.

[Clark Martin]

MIKO .. wrote:
> There's only one way to properly clean up an old Mac, if it still  
> works at all:  get it to Mexico somehow.  They have so few computers  
> down there.  I was in a city of over a million (Chihuahua) and they  
> were using 486 and 386 pcs in the place where you'd go an PAY to use a  
> computer- and the place was packed!  No one has anything down there,  
> not even in cities of millions of people!  Get those old working Macs  
> to Mexico!

And you may get picketed.

A few years ago I took a bunch of stuff to a recycling event on the 
Stanford campus.  There were people picketing it claiming they were just 
dumping garbage on the third world.  I guess we were supposed to only 
send new computers to poor countries.

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[PeterH]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Kyle Hansen wrote:

>> My LaserWriters remain available for the few times when I need
>> absolute PostScript compatibility.
>
> Most Laserwriters were made by HP with an apple logo stamped on at  
> the end.

The RIP ... the "brains" in LaserWriters ... is an Apple design,  
using a PostScript interpreter licensed from Adobe, with fonts  
licensed from Linotype/Hell.

The later LaserWriters appeared to be completely assembled by Canon,  
with the exception of the RIP board, which was supplied assembled and  
tested by Apple.

The early LaserWriters had the ABS plastic top made by Apple and  
applied, with the RIP board and its card cage, by Apple after  
importing it.

So, mostly made by Canon, and never made by HP.

HP bought the very same marking Canon CX/SX/EX etcetera engines which  
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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Paul]

With some Laserjets, it's easy to replace the rollers that usually
need replacing. Some of the older ones especially were a pain that
way.

You also don't want to go too old (older than the various Laserjet 4
models), because then you get ozone emissions from an earlier printing
technology. And I think the 4's were the first to have 600 dpi. And
front paper feed is more reliable than top.

With color inkjet printing, some stores may offer an arrangement where
you buy the printer and a contract that lets you trade in the printer
for a new comparable one for free within a certain time period. It
might end up being more economical than buying a new printer and then
buying replacement ink cartridges. People often give away perfectly
fine inkjet printers when they run out of ink, because it's cheaper to
buy a new whole printer than to replace the cartridges.

Inkjets generally aren't very economical for occasional printing. I'd
love to find out about one where the ink keeps well when just sitting
there for months, while still producing good pictures when it's
finally used.
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Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.

[Paul]

Even with fluorescents, supposedly the mercury in them is less than
the mercury released by the coal that might have been burned to make
the extra electricity for incandescent lights.

But LED's are even better, unless their manufacture or disposal
involves something hazardous that I don't know about...
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Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Clark Martin wrote:

> And you may get picketed.
>
> A few years ago I took a bunch of stuff to a recycling event on the
> Stanford campus.  There were people picketing it claiming they were  
> just
> dumping garbage on the third world.  I guess we were supposed to only
> send new computers to poor countries.

Very few computers dropped of at 'recycling' sites are ever actually  
recycled as functional system.

I just saw a news report on 60 minutes on computer 'recycling' places  
in the third world, particularly CRT recycling. (note the oh-so- 
green(R) bit about the recycling day in Denver)

MIKO is recommending sending functional systems to places for use, but  
almost all of the stuff taken in through these recycling ends up in  
places like the rural village in china where the industry (illegal  
under Chinese law, btw) is run by local gangsters, and the 'recycling'  
consists of peasants   stripping circuit boards of components like  
capacitors, then tossing the boards into open cauldrons over open  
fires to burn away the plastic and melt the metals for later refining.  
The residues are just dumped out, into huge mounds, and toxic wastes  
permeate the land and water, both chemicals like dioxins (from burning  
the plastic) and heavy metals. 

The rates of cancer, birth defects and chronic lung diseases in the  
area are staggering.

The reality is that the West routinely ships millions of tons of waste  
materials to third world nations with lax enforcement of environmental  
laws for the enrichment of a few.

Look at the shipbreaking industry in India for another example 
. Horrific. If they'r not killed outright by collapsing sections of  
ship, they're dying from completely unmitigated exposure to the  
witches brew of toxins present in most of the ships being processed  
there.

This is the kind of thing Greenpeace is screaming about when they rag  
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Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Paul wrote:

>
> Even with fluorescents, supposedly the mercury in them is less than
> the mercury released by the coal that might have been burned to make
> the extra electricity for incandescent lights.
>
> But LED's are even better, unless their manufacture or disposal
> involves something hazardous that I don't know about...

Nope, the issue with LED's right now is their high cost. But they're  
rapidly finding a big niche in the industrial and public sectors. The  
vastly superior lifespan of LED's has lead to an almost wholesale  
acceptance of their use in things like Traffic Signals, for example.

Closer to home, I've gone from early November to now with a single set  
of 3 AAA batteries in my bicycle headlight and it shows no sign of  
diminishing, versus the two weeks max I used to get out of the  
incandescent one.


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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote:

>
> On 12/22/08 9:26 PM, "PeterH"  Broadcast  
> into
> the ether:
>
>> My LaserWriters remain available for the few times when I need
>> absolute PostScript compatibility.
>
> Most Laserwriters were made by HP with an apple logo stamped on at  
> the end.

And Canon made the engines in them.

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Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.

[Clark Martin]

Paul wrote:
> Even with fluorescents, supposedly the mercury in them is less than
> the mercury released by the coal that might have been burned to make
> the extra electricity for incandescent lights.
> 
> But LED's are even better, unless their manufacture or disposal
> involves something hazardous that I don't know about...

The semi-conductors inside use some esoteric stuff.  I don't know what 
material is specfically used in white LEDs but I do know that gallium, 
arsenic and phosphor are common.  White LEDs would certainly have 
phosphor.  The quantities are quite small though and are in the solid 
state unlike the mercury in CFLs.

The plastic in the LEDs should be fairly innocuous.


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Re: Which printer do you like?

[PeterH]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Paul wrote:

> With some Laserjets, it's easy to replace the rollers that usually
> need replacing. Some of the older ones especially were a pain that
> way.
>

The CX marking engine (Apple LaserWriter and LaserWriter Plus, also  
HP LaserJet and LaserJet Plus) requires almost completely  
disassembling the printer in order to change the rollers.

Makes sense, as the CX marking engine was originally a photo-copier  
which was later converted to a laser printer.

You DO have to separate the "clamshell" in order to get to the  
rollers, thereby removing the "upper case", and to get to the  
registration roller you have to completely disassemble the "lower case".

This is somewhat easier on the SX marking engine, but it is still not  
that easy.

This flaw was resolved on the EX marking engine.


> You also don't want to go too old (older than the various Laserjet 4
> models), because then you get ozone emissions from an earlier printing
> technology. And I think the 4's were the first to have 600 dpi. And
> front paper feed is more reliable than top.

The "4 series" ... Pro 630, 16/660, LJ 4, LJ 4M ... were the first  
OPC (organic photoconductor) drum machines to offer 600 dpi, provided  
enough RAM was installed, otherwise these were limited to 300 dpi.

The first 600 dpi printers were the selenium-drummed printers from  
Agfa, I believe, and which were sold as low-cost imagesetters.



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Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.

[Clark Martin]

Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Paul wrote:
> 
>> Even with fluorescents, supposedly the mercury in them is less than
>> the mercury released by the coal that might have been burned to make
>> the extra electricity for incandescent lights.
>>
>> But LED's are even better, unless their manufacture or disposal
>> involves something hazardous that I don't know about...
> 
> Nope, the issue with LED's right now is their high cost. But they're  
> rapidly finding a big niche in the industrial and public sectors. The  
> vastly superior lifespan of LED's has lead to an almost wholesale  
> acceptance of their use in things like Traffic Signals, for example.

There's two other problems with LEDs.  They are by nature a directional 
source of light.  For many applications this is an advantage but for 
general lighting it's a bit of a problem.  It's usually solved by 
arranging sufficient LEDs pointing in all directions.  The other problem 
is the flicker.  When powered by AC they have a 60Hz flicker.  Normally 
it's not a problem until the observer or the LEDs are in motion, then 
they have a somewhat annoying flicker.  Using filtered DC to power them 
avoids the problem altogether.

> 
> Closer to home, I've gone from early November to now with a single set  
> of 3 AAA batteries in my bicycle headlight and it shows no sign of  
> diminishing, versus the two weeks max I used to get out of the  
> incandescent one.

Same here.  Plus I have about 7 strings of LED Christmas lights up on 
the house.  The draw about the same amount of power as 6 of the medium 
sized incandescent Christmas lights (C7 size).  I'm leaving my Christmas 
tree lights on all the time as they take a trivial amount of power and 
generate no noticeable heat.


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PowerBook G4 15" Al 2004 Power, Trackpad Problems

[Jim Scott]

In an effort to familiarize myself with newer form factors, I just  
acquired a PowerBook 15" Al 2004. It's running 10.4.11, and passes  
both the quick and extended Apple Hardware Tests. It runs very nicely,  
helped no doubt by 1.5 GB RAM and a 7200 rpm 80 GB HD. But there are  
two problems that I don't have the experience with this model to  
troubleshoot, and the Apple Service Manual's also no help. They may be  
related.

POWER PROBLEMS:

It runs nicely on AC and will charge a new battery and two used  
batteries (one has 759 charge cycles and still holds 23% original  
capacity!). But when the AC plug is pulled, it immediately dies and  
will not continue to run on any of the fully charged batteries. I have  
to do a PMU reset in order to restart on battery-only power.

Plugging the AC back in while it's running on battery power  
immediately shuts down the PB. This happens whether I use a proper 65W  
Apple power adapter, or a 45W Apple power adapter, or a 70W Kensington  
universal AC/DC adapter. However, when it's been running on battery  
power and I plug in the AC and kill it, I can restart it without   
doing a PMU reset.

Interestingly, every time plugging in or unplugging AC power kills the  
PB, the internal clock goes to default and has to be reset. Removing  
the battery and replacing it also causes the clock to go to default  
and require reset. So the backup battery probably is bad. It has been  
charged overnight, with no change in behavior or symptoms.

The previous owner replaced the left USB/AC power/headphone/speaker  
port board, as well as the backup battery. The original backup battery  
still shows 2.6V of charge.

TRACKPAD PROBLEM:

The trackpad does not work smoothly. In every other Apple laptop I've  
ever used, I could move the cursor anywhere I wanted with light finger  
pressure. With this one, I have to press down hard in order to drag  
the cursor around, often lifting my finger and going back to get the  
cursor to move after it suddenly stops. "Normal" finger pressure  
results in only sporadic cursor movement. A fresh install of the OS  
and adjusting preferences offers no relief. Proper and expected cursor  
behavior is possible with an external mouse plugged in to either USB  
port. Trackpad behavior is the same, whether the mouse is plugged in  
or not.

QUESTIONS:

Can a "bad" backup battery cause any or all of the problems noted above?

Can a "bad" left USB/Battery/headphone/speaker board cause the power  
problems?

What's the deal with the trackpad behavior? I've never seen this before.

Thanks for any help/insight/hints.

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Sam Macomber]

Cool!  I use a HP LaserJet 2100tn at home.   got it for free, it was  
broken   found a piece of case plastic in the toner cart  
roller.  pulled it out and it worked great  for a couple of years  
any how.I'm sure it got a quite a bit of use in it's past life,   
prints are getting degraded now,   leftover toner from previous prints  
ends up on the next couple of pages. can hardly see it when  
printing just text, but if an image is in there it gets bad.

anyone know what's wrong with it?   worth fixing? thinking a  
LaserJet CP2025dn might be a good replacement if it comes to that.   
It'd be nice to do color prints (I've got a 2.5 year old, so I'd like  
to print those preschool activity page type things in color).

At work we've got a HP 8100dn  and a 6MP  that have been chugging  
along for quite a while, never broken, ever.

-sam

>
> I'm surprised nobody's mentioned HP yet. Maybe it's because their
> recent consumer models are a far cry from their venerable Laserjets.
>
> I print a lot of text, and use a Kodak kiosk at a supermarket for
> occasional photos, so I got a used HP laser printer (no color), the
> Laserjet 2200d. (The "d" means duplexing. The 2200 prints one side
> only.) I use it with a PC, but there are postscript drivers for it for
> OS X, OS 9, and probably earlier. It probably was an office machine
> made for use by a small workgroup. It's not hard for one reasonably
> strong person to carry, easier than a 17" CRT monitor.
>
> The older HP's are very durable and inexpensive as used models (people
> often give away ones in very good condition around here), and the
> toner cartridges tend to hold more toner than the later consumer
> models. That makes them cost a lot less per page. Someone gave me a
> Laserjet 5mp, which has postscript, a parallel port, and an older
> round Apple Talk port, but no USB.
>
> HP isn't particularly known for its color laser printers, but their
> better monochrome Laserjets have an excellent reputation and last
> forever. Their recent consumer stuff isn't known for durability or low
> cost per page.
>
> Most of the Laserjets with a good reputation use a Canon printing
> engine. For instance, the Canon LBP-32X engine is in all of these
> printers:
>
> Canon LBP-1000
> Canon LBP-32X
> Canon P 100
> HP LaserJet 2100
> HP LaserJet 2100m
> HP LaserJet 2100se
> HP LaserJet 2100tn
> HP LaserJet 2100xi
> HP LaserJet 2200d
> HP LaserJet 2200dn
> HP LaserJet 2200dt
> HP LaserJet 2200dtn
> HP LaserJet 2210
>
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Sam Macomber]

Oh yeah.   having lived in the SW when I owned an Epson 740i I can  
relate!Always liked to clog up when I need to print a paper for  
class!

>
>
> On Dec 22, 2008, at 7:27 PM, D Stubbs wrote:
>
>> We have run all the invoices for our biz for many years with what to
>> me is
>> the work horse of printers - the Epson Stylus 740. I think we paid
>> $40 for
>> it  about 9 years ago.
>
> There's one point I'd like to bring up in here.
>
> If you print EVERY DAY, these things are major workhorses, and go
> forever. If you don't they're clogging nightmares, particularly in dry
> climates (either for real like here in the desert SW, or artifical in
> a heated space in winter)
>
> -- 
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> College of Pharmacy
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>
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>
>
>
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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Sam Macomber wrote:

> Cool!  I use a HP LaserJet 2100tn at home.   got it for free, it was
> broken   found a piece of case plastic in the toner cart
> roller.  pulled it out and it worked great  for a couple of years
> any how.I'm sure it got a quite a bit of use in it's past life,
> prints are getting degraded now,   leftover toner from previous prints
> ends up on the next couple of pages. can hardly see it when
> printing just text, but if an image is in there it gets bad.

It needs cleaning, but the 2100tn is a damn fine workhorse. That's our  
office's main printer.

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Re: PowerBook G4 15" Al 2004 Power, Trackpad Problems

[Maretta Holden]

I have the same model, original equipment (except 
new 80GB HD to replace the one which recently 
died), and have had no battery or trackpad 
problems.

You might want to look more closely at the left side board replacement.

- Maretta

At 12:25 PM -0800 12/23/2008, Jim Scott wrote:
>In an effort to familiarize myself with newer form factors, I just 
>acquired a PowerBook 15" Al 2004. It's running 10.4.11, and passes 
>both the quick and extended Apple Hardware Tests. It runs very nicely, 
>helped no doubt by 1.5 GB RAM and a 7200 rpm 80 GB HD. But there are 
>two problems that I don't have the experience with this model to 
>troubleshoot, and the Apple Service Manual's also no help. They may be 
>related.
>
>POWER PROBLEMS:
>
>It runs nicely on AC and will charge a new battery and two used 
>batteries (one has 759 charge cycles and still holds 23% original 
>capacity!). But when the AC plug is pulled, it immediately dies and 
>will not continue to run on any of the fully charged batteries. I have 
>to do a PMU reset in order to restart on battery-only power.
>
>Plugging the AC back in while it's running on battery power 
>immediately shuts down the PB. This happens whether I use a proper 65W 
>Apple power adapter, or a 45W Apple power adapter, or a 70W Kensington 
>universal AC/DC adapter. However, when it's been running on battery 
>power and I plug in the AC and kill it, I can restart it without  
>doing a PMU reset.
>
>Interestingly, every time plugging in or unplugging AC power kills the 
>PB, the internal clock goes to default and has to be reset. Removing 
>the battery and replacing it also causes the clock to go to default 
>and require reset. So the backup battery probably is bad. It has been 
>charged overnight, with no change in behavior or symptoms.
>
>The previous owner replaced the left USB/AC power/headphone/speaker 
>port board, as well as the backup battery. The original backup battery 
>still shows 2.6V of charge.
>
>TRACKPAD PROBLEM:
>
>The trackpad does not work smoothly. In every other Apple laptop I've 
>ever used, I could move the cursor anywhere I wanted with light finger 
>pressure. With this one, I have to press down hard in order to drag 
>the cursor around, often lifting my finger and going back to get the 
>cursor to move after it suddenly stops. "Normal" finger pressure 
>results in only sporadic cursor movement. A fresh install of the OS 
>and adjusting preferences offers no relief. Proper and expected cursor 
>behavior is possible with an external mouse plugged in to either USB 
>port. Trackpad behavior is the same, whether the mouse is plugged in 
>or not.
>
>QUESTIONS:
>
>Can a "bad" backup battery cause any or all of the problems noted above?
>
>Can a "bad" left USB/Battery/headphone/speaker board cause the power 
>problems?
>
>What's the deal with the trackpad behavior? I've never seen this before.
>
>Thanks for any help/insight/hints.
>
>Jim Scott
>
>
>
>

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Re: PowerBook G4 15" Al 2004 Power, Trackpad Problems

[Jim Scott]

Thanks for the reply. I took off the top case and measured the voltage  
in the backup battery: 4.1V, so it's holding a charge even higher than  
its 3.7V rating. Everything else I could see was properly installed,  
connected, etc.

Next, I cleaned the trackpad with a degreaser. Then after rebooting, I  
put a wet finger on the trackpad, and even the lightest touch gave me  
perfect pointer movements. As my finger dried, the pointer froze. When  
it was completely dry, I could get the pointer to move a ways, but it  
jumped back to the starting point as my finger pressure decreased.  
Horizontal movements seem easier than vertical movements.

The mystery continues.

Jim

On Dec 23, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Maretta Holden wrote:

>
> I have the same model, original equipment (except
> new 80GB HD to replace the one which recently
> died), and have had no battery or trackpad
> problems.
>
> You might want to look more closely at the left side board  
> replacement.
>
> - Maretta
>
> At 12:25 PM -0800 12/23/2008, Jim Scott wrote:
>> In an effort to familiarize myself with newer form factors, I just
>> acquired a PowerBook 15" Al 2004. It's running 10.4.11, and passes
>> both the quick and extended Apple Hardware Tests. It runs very  
>> nicely,
>> helped no doubt by 1.5 GB RAM and a 7200 rpm 80 GB HD. But there are
>> two problems that I don't have the experience with this model to
>> troubleshoot, and the Apple Service Manual's also no help. They may  
>> be
>> related.
>>
>> POWER PROBLEMS:
>>
>> It runs nicely on AC and will charge a new battery and two used
>> batteries (one has 759 charge cycles and still holds 23% original
>> capacity!). But when the AC plug is pulled, it immediately dies and
>> will not continue to run on any of the fully charged batteries. I  
>> have
>> to do a PMU reset in order to restart on battery-only power.
>>
>> Plugging the AC back in while it's running on battery power
>> immediately shuts down the PB. This happens whether I use a proper  
>> 65W
>> Apple power adapter, or a 45W Apple power adapter, or a 70W  
>> Kensington
>> universal AC/DC adapter. However, when it's been running on battery
>> power and I plug in the AC and kill it, I can restart it without
>> doing a PMU reset.
>>
>> Interestingly, every time plugging in or unplugging AC power kills  
>> the
>> PB, the internal clock goes to default and has to be reset. Removing
>> the battery and replacing it also causes the clock to go to default
>> and require reset. So the backup battery probably is bad. It has been
>> charged overnight, with no change in behavior or symptoms.
>>
>> The previous owner replaced the left USB/AC power/headphone/speaker
>> port board, as well as the backup battery. The original backup  
>> battery
>> still shows 2.6V of charge.
>>
>> TRACKPAD PROBLEM:
>>
>> The trackpad does not work smoothly. In every other Apple laptop I've
>> ever used, I could move the cursor anywhere I wanted with light  
>> finger
>> pressure. With this one, I have to press down hard in order to drag
>> the cursor around, often lifting my finger and going back to get the
>> cursor to move after it suddenly stops. "Normal" finger pressure
>> results in only sporadic cursor movement. A fresh install of the OS
>> and adjusting preferences offers no relief. Proper and expected  
>> cursor
>> behavior is possible with an external mouse plugged in to either USB
>> port. Trackpad behavior is the same, whether the mouse is plugged in
>> or not.
>>
>> QUESTIONS:
>>
>> Can a "bad" backup battery cause any or all of the problems noted  
>> above?
>>
>> Can a "bad" left USB/Battery/headphone/speaker board cause the power
>> problems?
>>
>> What's the deal with the trackpad behavior? I've never seen this  
>> before.
>>
>> Thanks for any help/insight/hints.
>>
>> Jim Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >


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Using a clamshell yo-yo adapter with an iBook dual USB?

[joplinfan]

Hi all,

Just bought an iBook G3 dual USB notebook less power adapter. Have one
coming in a week or two, but would like to get it going a few times
before it arrives. I've got a yo-yo power adapter for an iBook
clamshell with the correct specs (24v @ 1.875a), but of course the
connector is way too big for the iBook dual USB.

Any suggestions how I might temporarily modify the yo-yo to work with
the iBook dual USB? I've modified notebook power bricks before, but
these Apple connectors have me a bit stumped.

Thanks,
Steve
kawni...@cableone.net

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Re: Titanium 400Mhz Powerbook won't start

[Charles Lenington]

nestamicky wrote:
>
> jonas ulrich wrote:
>> I had a tibook 2002 for about a week before I returned it with a bad 
>> mother board. When you say it doesn't give a beep are you talking 
>> about the apple chime? Does it even get power? These laptops were 
>> very inconsistent. Some of them will overheat and melt as shown in 
>> the five links. imgres 
>> 
>>  imgres 
>> 
>>  imgres 
>> 
>>  imgres 
>> 
>>   imgres 
>> 
>>  . 
>> Some just don't work well. But there are some, the later models, that 
>> work great.
You might have better luck over on the powerbook
 G4 list.

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Charles Lenington]

MIKO .. wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Tom wrote:
>
>   
>> My Epson Stylus Photo R1800 makes beautiful prints from digital photos
>> or scans. Occasionally a print head will clog and need cleaning, and
>> that wastes ink, but the prints are so good that I put up with it.
>> 
>
> Tom, the more expensive Epsons are fine... they do make lovely  
> printers, and artists swear by them.  But if you've never used an  
> Epson that was under $200- trust me- the quality falls healdlong into  
> the abysmal Abyss.
>
>   
The orginal price for the 740 was over $200.

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[MIKO ..]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:
>>
> The orginal price for the 740 was over $200.

The reference was to an 1800- I have no idea how bad the 740 is- I  
give up I will NEVER be specific on these lists because people here  
are constantly throwing out prices from 1985 and other weird details  
about things to find a way to mess with the respectability of  
someone's opinion.

I'm simply going to say that cheaper Epson printers SUCK.  And I'm not  
going to run through EVERY SINGLE Epson model when I'm simply trying  
to provide a good general rule!  I'm sure the 740 sucks- all the 3  
digit numbered ones that I know suck, and every single Epson printer  
in the Stylus series sucks, and my opinion is solid on that.

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[GKHannon]

I have no intention of getting into minutia-related disputes, and will only 
relay my own experience.

I have had two Epsons, and have already gotten rid of one and will get rid of 
the second when its ink runs out.

My problems have been:
(a) the absurd cost of Epson inks;
(b) the inability to print in black merely because one of the color 
cartridges is out;
(c) the clogging -- perpetually, it would seem -- of the nozzles, once the 
printer is over around one year old.

I have gone back to HP, which I originally left due to a software conflict 
(then using OS 9 on an unupgraded G-4 Quicksilver).

I'm now on Tiger on both my Macs; on my RAM-upgraded G-4, already using the 
HP, I have had no software conflicts, and love the quality, and the cost, and 
the speed, of the HP's output.

Jerry H


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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Amanda Ward]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:50 , Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> On Dec 23, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Sam Macomber wrote:
>
>> Cool!  I use a HP LaserJet 2100tn at home.   got it for free, it was
>> broken   found a piece of case plastic in the toner cart
>> roller.  pulled it out and it worked great  for a couple of years
>> any how.I'm sure it got a quite a bit of use in it's past life,
>> prints are getting degraded now,   leftover toner from previous  
>> prints
>> ends up on the next couple of pages. can hardly see it when
>> printing just text, but if an image is in there it gets bad.
>
> It needs cleaning, but the 2100tn is a damn fine workhorse. That's our
> office's main printer.

I have an HP Laserjet 4000, extracted from a client's leaky, rodent  
and bug infested storage building. Printed with streaks, smudges,  
lines and blank spots. Rescued it from the dumper and took it home.  
Cleaned it out with compressed air, cotton swabs and dust free cloths  
everywhere I could get to. Put in a new toner cartridge and it's been  
giving me excellent prints for the last 5 years. Not heavy usage, but  
probably run 30-40 reams of paper through so far, plus envelopes and  
disc labels.

Also have 2 - HP 4315 AIO printers and a 6988 wireless, color printer.  
Never had any serious problems with HP... 'cept their ink cartridges  
cost too d**n much (Tho' the company reimburses me for much of it)!  ;-)

Amanda

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G5 PCIe & USB card question

[Arnel Tuazon]

I have a dual core G5 with PCIe slots and I wanted to add more USB 2.0
ports.  Does it matter what type of USB PCIe card I buy or will any USB PCIe
card do?

Thanks in advance!



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