Re: USB Need

[Kris Tilford]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

> Type-A
> The same one you see on USB Flash Drives

OK.

Buy the $2 cable from Amazon that was previously posted:
http://www.amazon.com/Ziotek-USB-Cable-Male-Beige/dp/B000BSJFFC




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Re: USB Need

[Stephen Conrad]

On 6/17/09, iJohn  wrote:

>
> Could you say which of them your camera need to connect to a PC?
> Type-A or Type B or the mini or micro flavors? And are you sure both
> ends need to be the same type of connector? (That's less common in my
> experience with USB ... but maybe I'm just showing my lack of
> experience?)
>
> -irrational john

Type-A
The same one you see on USB Flash Drives

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Re: USB Need

[Paul Kemner]

If you have Big Lots stores in your area, they usually have various usb
items cheap. I remember seeing one that included a pile of different
adapters, and it didn't come with software.

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Re: USB Need

[iJohn]

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Isaac Smith wrote:
>> I have a camera that takes a USB connector to connect it to my Mac.
>> The problem is I need a Male to Male connector.

One of the reasons I have always disliked the USB protocol is that the
designers seemed to have a connector fetish. Why else would they have
included so many different types of connectors.

Anyway, at times like this I don't really know how else to figure out
what the other person thinks they need than to reference some sort of
USB connector chart. For convenience I just went to the dreaded
wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Types_of_USB_connector

Do any of those connector types look familar?

Could you say which of them your camera need to connect to a PC?
Type-A or Type B or the mini or micro flavors? And are you sure both
ends need to be the same type of connector? (That's less common in my
experience with USB ... but maybe I'm just showing my lack of
experience?)

-irrational john

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Re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card

[John Martz]

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote:
> Quick question: Which is better (more stable) an original Airport card
> (802.11b) or a PCI wireless card that is 802.11n ?

IMO that's a question that can't really be answered as asked. I don't
believe the "stability" of a connection has much to do with whether
the protocol used is 802.11b or n. I wouldn't approach the question of
what adapter to use this way.

In no particular order some of the questions I'd ask are ...

* How many devices would be using your wireless network initially?
Would they all be capable of using 802.11n or only some of them? If
only some, what protocols could the other devices use?

* What's your best guess as to how your wireless network will change
with time? That is, what new stuff do you think you might get that
you'd want to also include in your network?

* What sort of distances and what sort of signal barriers are you
expecting your wireless network to work over. Would there be
interference from other devices such as cordless phones, other
people's wireless nets, et cetera?

* What would you use the network for? It can range from just surfing
the net via a web browser to trying to streaming 1080p HD video to
trying to move large files routinely via wireless.

> I know the "n" is WAY faster, but I'm thinking of stability in terms of
> dropped connections, problems re-connecting, etc.

802.11n can be noticeably faster than 802.11b. But if you don't think
things through ahead of time you might not realize the potential the
marketeering types allege in their cryptic ad bites. That said,
802.11b is pretty well dead at this point in time and I wouldn't
advise anyone to go that route unless they had very compelling reasons
to do so. Or equivalently, compelling reasons why they would NOT want
to go with 802.11n.

The fact that you would be using an 802.11n capable router makes me
wonder why on earth you'd stick with "b". But I really don't know your
context and doing so may very well make sense for you.

Which flavor of Airport Extreme base station would you be using? The
original version which I believe can only use either 2.4GHz or the
5GHz band, but not both bands simultaneously? Or the newer, Early 2009
flavor which apparently can use both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands
simultaneously? (Not sure just what "simultaneously" means in this
context, but it sure sounds neat, doesn't it? I wonder if it actually
is neat or just more marketeer-speak. ;-)

-irrational john

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Re: USB Need

[Isaac Smith]

> I have a camera that takes a USB connector to connect it to my Mac.
> The problem is I need a Male to Male connector.
> Rat Shack (Radio Shack) wants $40 for one with software (and if it
> does not work you CANNOT return it at all since it comes with
> Software).
> Where might I cheaply find such a beast?

This is a Type A to Type A Male-to-Male connector, am I correct?

If that's what you're looking for, Amazon seems to have one for $2: 
http://www.amazon.com/Ziotek-USB-Cable-Male-Beige/dp/B000BSJFFC

And yes. RadioShack is overpriced.

Hope that helps,

Isaac

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Re: USB Need

[Dark_Mac]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

>
> I have a camera that takes a USB connector to connect it to my Mac.
> The problem is I need a Male to Male connector.
> Rat Shack (Radio Shack) wants $40 for one with software (and if it
> does not work you CANNOT return it at all since it comes with
> Software).
> Where might I cheaply find such a beast?
>
>

Dare I suggest looking on eBay?  I found what I was looking for there  
and the price was under $10.00 shipped for two of them.  If I  
remember correctly.  It has been a while now.

Regards,
Mike

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Re: [G3-5]USB Need

[MaGioZal]

On 6/17/09 11:20 PM, Stephen Conrad at  wrote:

> Where might I cheaply find such a beast?


Wow... Pretty expensive!

But it depends on the kind of male conector is needed for your camera. But
even considering this I cannot conceive anything beyond a 10-dollar price
tag, sincerely.
 




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USB Need

[Stephen Conrad]

I have a camera that takes a USB connector to connect it to my Mac.
The problem is I need a Male to Male connector.
Rat Shack (Radio Shack) wants $40 for one with software (and if it
does not work you CANNOT return it at all since it comes with
Software).
Where might I cheaply find such a beast?

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Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card

[Arnel Tuazon]

Hey folks

Quick question: Which is better (more stable) an original Airport card
(802.11b) or a PCI wireless card that is 802.11n ?

I know the "n" is WAY faster, but I'm thinking of stability in terms of
dropped connections, problems re-connecting, etc.  The PCI card does have
OSX drivers.  

I will be using either card in my G4 gigabit ethernet with an Airport
Extreme base station.

Thanks in advance!




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Re: G5 bad choice?

[Arnel Tuazon]

On 17/06/09 4:56 PM, "Meghrouni Vince"  wrote:

> 
> It is a dual core, "late 2005 series".  Sounds like good news to me.
> 
> I don't like the idea of not being able to keep up with the latest OS,
> but that's my own lack of computer savvy considering my own needs.  My
> uses are similar to your stated uses, except I don't do video editing.
> If I started with some video editing, however, it would advance some
> of my causes.  The plan is also to do audio work via Pro Tools on this
> machine as well, and to my knowledge that will not require being down
> with the latest and greatest OS.
> 
> This machine was meant to keep me in the digital world until I can get
> on board with the Intel.  At $650 I figured it would give me
> processing power, memory, etc.,  to do what I intended to do until I
> had the dough to make the "next step".  The hope was that I'd get a
> good three or four year run.   Maybe this wasn't such a naive idea?
> 
> Thanks for your extremely useful input.  One thing I do believe I've
> learned is that I don't know enough about this stuff to be buying used
> computers.
> 
> Vince
> 
The thing with Macs is they were always built with foresight.  Apple always
seem to predict what was going to be needed in the future.  Look at USB,
when the B&W came out people were saying that Apple took a gamble going USB
only (although they did include one ADB port for use with old school
keyboards and track pads).  Now everything is USB.  Your G5 (I'd get more
RAM if I were you) should last you at least 3 more years before you'd start
considering a new machine.  You'll be just fine using Pro Tools with your
G5. As I said before always consider what you will use your machine for
before you buy it. 



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Re: emac hard drive

[Clark Martin]

deftone_75 wrote:
> Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is
> 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model. Thanks so
> much

You can but only externally via FireWire (preferred) or USB.

Considering the price of HDs it's pretty trivial to replace the 80Gb 
with a much bigger drive.

I recently had to replace the HD in my Mini.  When I looked around I 
found a 320Gb drive for something like $80 and that is for a laptop 
drive.  So instead of adding a drive just replace it with a big enough 
drive.

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Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

[Paul Stamsen]

Previously, at 3:28  pm -0400 6/16/09, Peter wrote:
>You shouldn't suckup to anybody.


 Perhaps not the best choice of words, but the meaning was clear to me!

p.
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Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

[Paul Stamsen]

Previously, at 3:14  pm -0400 6/16/09, Len Gerstel wrote:
>Now as Len, a regular member of the G3-5 List:
>
>If you noticed, some of the most vocal supporters of bottom posting  
>and trimming camp are the most prolific and helpful posters on the list.
>
>Wouldn't you want to suck up to them to get their help? Wouldn't you  
>want to make it (what they see as) the easiest way for them to read  
>the posts and help you?
>
>Len



 Point well made.   And the wise will take - and benefit from - it.

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Re: emac hard drive

[iJohn]

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:
> USB sucks on mac. Firewire is definately the way to go.

While I wouldn't completely agree that USB 2.0 sucks compared to
Firewire, I have no problem asserting that USB 2.0 is definitely a lot
less special than Firewire is when it comes to throughput for an
external drive.

I have found this to be true regardless of the platform. Firewire is
(slightly but definitely) better than USB 2.0 on both a Mac and a PC.
(At least in my experience).

That said, I saw my first USB 3.0 article today. Dang! And I was just
beginning to reconcile myself to a world dominated by USB 2.0 and
eSATA ...

-irrationa john

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Re: emac hard drive

[Jonas Ulrich]

If you go with an external hard drive I would definately reccommnd a
firewire drive. USB sucks on mac. Firewire is definately the way to
go.

-Jonas

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Jim Scott wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 3:11 PM, deftone_75 wrote:
>> Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is
>> 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model.
>
> Internally, there is no space, unless you remove the optical drive and
> cobble up a bracket to hold the second drive. Your best bet would be
> to add an external drive -- either firewire or USB.
>
> -- Jim
>
> >
>

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Re: emac hard drive

[Jim Scott]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 3:11 PM, deftone_75 wrote:
> Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is
> 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model.

Internally, there is no space, unless you remove the optical drive and  
cobble up a bracket to hold the second drive. Your best bet would be  
to add an external drive -- either firewire or USB.

-- Jim

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emac hard drive

[deftone_75]

Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is
1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model. Thanks so
much

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Re: G5 bad choice?

[Meghrouni Vince]

It is a dual core, "late 2005 series".  Sounds like good news to me.

I don't like the idea of not being able to keep up with the latest OS,  
but that's my own lack of computer savvy considering my own needs.  My  
uses are similar to your stated uses, except I don't do video editing.
If I started with some video editing, however, it would advance some  
of my causes.  The plan is also to do audio work via Pro Tools on this  
machine as well, and to my knowledge that will not require being down  
with the latest and greatest OS.

This machine was meant to keep me in the digital world until I can get  
on board with the Intel.  At $650 I figured it would give me  
processing power, memory, etc.,  to do what I intended to do until I  
had the dough to make the "next step".  The hope was that I'd get a  
good three or four year run.   Maybe this wasn't such a naive idea?

Thanks for your extremely useful input.  One thing I do believe I've  
learned is that I don't know enough about this stuff to be buying used  
computers.

Vince

On Jun 17, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote:

>
> On 17/06/09 3:37 PM, "Meghrouni Vince"  wrote:
>
>> A good friend who is much more computer savvy than me has advised me
>> to sell it before getting it out of the box, that the G5 is at best
>> highly problematic.  I am aware that the next OS is leaving all but
>> the intel behind, so that the G5 meant a commitment to a vestigal OS
>> for a while, but I don't have the $ for the next step up.  Thank
>> goodness I bought an air-cooled model because subsequent research
>> revealed a world of trouble with the liquid-cooled varieties).
>>
>> Please, if you would be so kind, share your experiences with the G5.
>> What are the problems you've had and/or heard of?
>>
> It depends on which dual you bought.  Do you mean dual core or dual G5
> processors?  The dual G5 processors (2 actual G5 processors on a  
> single
> mobo) had problems and I believe they had PCI-X slots.  I have a  
> dual-core
> 2.3GHz G5 that I bought back in 2007.  These have the PCI-e slots.   
> The ram
> for these are inexpensive as far as RAM goes and you can have a  
> maximum of
> 16GB.  I have had no trouble with it so far (knock on wood).  Yes your
> friend is right that all Powermacs will be abandoned by Apple with  
> Snow
> Leopard, however if you're not into having the latest and greatest  
> then
> Leopard itself will suffice.  Editing and burning home movies has  
> been so
> much LESS cumbersome since I got my G5.  I used to work on a B&W  
> modded with
> a G4 and oc'd to 600MHz - huge difference with the computing power.   
> A lot
> of listers have expressed their anger/disappointment with Apple  
> regarding
> the intel only requirement for 10.6, but aside from video editing and
> photography, I'm mostly surfing the web, reading e-mail or using  
> Office so
> I'll stick with Leopard for now.
>
>
>
> >


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Re: G5 bad choice?

[Meghrouni Vince]

Much useful information, thank you.

Vince


On Jun 17, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Meghrouni Vince wrote:
>
>> Please, if you would be so kind, share your experiences with the G5.
>> What are the problems you've had and/or heard of?
>
> I have an air-cooled dual 2.3 G5 that was new old-stock in 2007,
> manufactured mid-2005. It had a power supply failure within the first
> week of usage, something that was a "known issue" for certain G5's,
> and was covered under an extended warranty program (caused by a
> lawsuit). See:
>
> 
>
> Unfortunately my G5 was outside the serial group, although I
> mistakenly though it was included because I misread a "6" as an "8" in
> the serial. I made an appointment with an Apple Genius Bar and
> confidently thought it was covered, but then they showed me my error,
> and said the single digit meant mine was manufactured a single week
> too early to qualify (the serial contains date of manufacture info). I
> started to complain bitterly. I'd also had an iBook with the famous
> bad video chip that was excluded from the extended warranty by a
> matter of weeks, and I said so, and to my surprise Apple caved in and
> did my repair for free.
>
> There was a small glitch in the repair, they forgot to calibrate the
> thermal system, and the fans ran full out like a small airplane. I had
> to return it again, and wait another week, so it required 4 round
> trips to the Apple Store, nearly 560 miles driving, and $100 in gas &
> toll for me. It took 4 weeks to get it back in working condition.
> Since then, no problems.
>
> My complaints would be that RAM is relatively expensive still, and
> there are almost no PCI-X cards that take advantage of the extra
> bandwidth, everything moved to PCI-e which the next G5's had (along
> with water cooling, a bad trade off).
>
> If you're being cheap and have some tech skills, the hackintosh route
> is cheapest and fastest, but again, it's always a trade-off: hassle
> and time vs. speed and cost. The G5 is "ok" in my book, as long as the
> power supply isn't in the warranty group.
>
> >


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Re: G5 bad choice?

[Arnel Tuazon]

On 17/06/09 3:37 PM, "Meghrouni Vince"  wrote:

> A good friend who is much more computer savvy than me has advised me
> to sell it before getting it out of the box, that the G5 is at best
> highly problematic.  I am aware that the next OS is leaving all but
> the intel behind, so that the G5 meant a commitment to a vestigal OS
> for a while, but I don't have the $ for the next step up.  Thank
> goodness I bought an air-cooled model because subsequent research
> revealed a world of trouble with the liquid-cooled varieties).
> 
> Please, if you would be so kind, share your experiences with the G5.
> What are the problems you've had and/or heard of?
> 
It depends on which dual you bought.  Do you mean dual core or dual G5
processors?  The dual G5 processors (2 actual G5 processors on a single
mobo) had problems and I believe they had PCI-X slots.  I have a dual-core
2.3GHz G5 that I bought back in 2007.  These have the PCI-e slots.  The ram
for these are inexpensive as far as RAM goes and you can have a maximum of
16GB.  I have had no trouble with it so far (knock on wood).  Yes your
friend is right that all Powermacs will be abandoned by Apple with Snow
Leopard, however if you're not into having the latest and greatest then
Leopard itself will suffice.  Editing and burning home movies has been so
much LESS cumbersome since I got my G5.  I used to work on a B&W modded with
a G4 and oc'd to 600MHz - huge difference with the computing power.  A lot
of listers have expressed their anger/disappointment with Apple regarding
the intel only requirement for 10.6, but aside from video editing and
photography, I'm mostly surfing the web, reading e-mail or using Office so
I'll stick with Leopard for now.



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Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[Ralph Green]

On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 09:27 -0400, Len Gerstel wrote:


> > On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Ralph Green wrote:
> > 
> > > Use any flat IDE cable you want.  Use 80 pin cables if you want
> > > speeds
> > > greater than 33 megabytes per second.
> > 
> > I thought an IDE cable is an IDE cable is anso when you say to
> > use 80 pin IDE for increased speed, what do you mean? Please expand 
> 
> It is not 80 pin, it is 80 wires. The cables still have the standard
> 40 pins. 
 Yes.  I should have said 80 wire.  The connectors are all 40 pin.  I
usually save the 40 pin cables for older systems.  But, it is good to
know that you can use them for any parallel ATA drive, in a pinch.  I
help people rebuild older systems pretty often.  To tell if you have a
80 wire cable, you can count the wires.  Or, a shortcut is to look at
one end.  Count how many wires are in the width of one column of 2 pins.
Look at the connector that plugs into the drive as 20 columns by 2 rows.
If there are 2 wires for every row of 2 pins, it is a 40 wire cable.  If
there are 4 wires for every row of 2 pins, it is a 80 wire cable.  Does
that make sense?  You could also hold the cables up against a cable you
know is 40 or 80 wires.  The 80 wire cables are noticeably different.



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Re: G5 bad choice?

[Kris Tilford]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Meghrouni Vince wrote:

> Please, if you would be so kind, share your experiences with the G5.
> What are the problems you've had and/or heard of?

I have an air-cooled dual 2.3 G5 that was new old-stock in 2007,  
manufactured mid-2005. It had a power supply failure within the first  
week of usage, something that was a "known issue" for certain G5's,  
and was covered under an extended warranty program (caused by a  
lawsuit). See:



Unfortunately my G5 was outside the serial group, although I  
mistakenly though it was included because I misread a "6" as an "8" in  
the serial. I made an appointment with an Apple Genius Bar and  
confidently thought it was covered, but then they showed me my error,  
and said the single digit meant mine was manufactured a single week  
too early to qualify (the serial contains date of manufacture info). I  
started to complain bitterly. I'd also had an iBook with the famous  
bad video chip that was excluded from the extended warranty by a  
matter of weeks, and I said so, and to my surprise Apple caved in and  
did my repair for free.

There was a small glitch in the repair, they forgot to calibrate the  
thermal system, and the fans ran full out like a small airplane. I had  
to return it again, and wait another week, so it required 4 round  
trips to the Apple Store, nearly 560 miles driving, and $100 in gas &  
toll for me. It took 4 weeks to get it back in working condition.  
Since then, no problems.

My complaints would be that RAM is relatively expensive still, and  
there are almost no PCI-X cards that take advantage of the extra  
bandwidth, everything moved to PCI-e which the next G5's had (along  
with water cooling, a bad trade off).

If you're being cheap and have some tech skills, the hackintosh route  
is cheapest and fastest, but again, it's always a trade-off: hassle  
and time vs. speed and cost. The G5 is "ok" in my book, as long as the  
power supply isn't in the warranty group.

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Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

[Dan]

At 2:53 PM -0500 6/17/2009, Kris Tilford wrote:
>
>A long time ago (meaning I don't know if this is currently true, I 
>hope not?) I manually striped the language resources from Webkit and 
>it destroyed the ability to search within Safari, and some versions 
>wouldn't even launch after removal of some languages. I filed a bug 
>report on this phenomenon, and very quickly I got a super-rude reply 
>from a Webkit developer saying "who did I think I was to 'lobotomize' 
>their code" and "why should ANY software that's been manually
>'butchered' by a user be expected to function normally"?

While I cannot comment on what code was or was not included with the 
localizations,,, I agree with the sentiment.  Developers work hard to 
produce *working* products.  Having a user lobotomize them 
intentionally is just bad juju.  Then there's the horrible support 
problem...

As to the need for localization code... I can think of quite a few 
reasons for it.  Depends on the languages involved - quite a few are 
not simple word-for-word substitutions to engrish.

- Dan.
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Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

[Kris Tilford]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> Manually stripping the extra language resources from TextEdit cut it  
> down to
> 1.9 mb.

A long time ago (meaning I don't know if this is currently true, I  
hope not?) I manually striped the language resources from Webkit and  
it destroyed the ability to search within Safari, and some versions  
wouldn't even launch after removal of some languages. I filed a bug  
report on this phenomenon, and very quickly I got a super-rude reply  
from a Webkit developer saying "who did I think I was to 'lobotomize'  
their code" and "why should ANY software that's been manually  
'butchered' by a user be expected to function normally"? I was taken  
aback, and replied that I didn't think that hiding active code within  
the language files was a good idea, and that AFAIK no other  
applications did such a thing. It seemed as if this developer was  
acknowledging that the "bug" that I reported was in actuality  
"purposeful" and they were not only aware of it, but were dismissing  
my bug report because Webkit was designed to not work if certain  
languages were removed. I thought this was crazy, and still do. I hope  
things have changed since then?

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G5 bad choice?

[Meghrouni Vince]

I bought a G5 2.3 Dual on e-bay.  I've been wrestling with my 2002  
Quicksilver 933mhz for a long while.  The next step on the Quicksilver  
was replacing the power supply and there was no way of knowing if that  
would solve my problems for sure.  So, like I say, I bought the G5 2.3  
Dual.

A good friend who is much more computer savvy than me has advised me  
to sell it before getting it out of the box, that the G5 is at best  
highly problematic.  I am aware that the next OS is leaving all but  
the intel behind, so that the G5 meant a commitment to a vestigal OS  
for a while, but I don't have the $ for the next step up.  Thank  
goodness I bought an air-cooled model because subsequent research  
revealed a world of trouble with the liquid-cooled varieties).

Please, if you would be so kind, share your experiences with the G5.   
What are the problems you've had and/or heard of?

Thank you

Vince Meghrouni

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Re: browser speed

[Alex Smith (K4RNT)]

That's probably just because they set cookies in your browser when you
login to remember your login.

Cookies are browser-specific, and I'm not sure if you could make a
link to the cookies in Firefox from SeaMonkey, but just logging in on
the website in SeaMonkey should fix your problem.

Also, some sites are more security-conscious than others, and will
expire your cookies if you login in another location, so if you login
with Firefox and then SeaMonkey, the Firefox side you will have to
re-login.

Hope this helps... :)

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
> Also:  I noticed that some of my favorite sites (that require a
> login) did not "recognize" me when I used a different browser.  What
> can I do to fix this annoying problem?  Do I have to re-register?

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browser speed

[Lawrence David Eden]

Greetings,

I am on an upgraded B&W500mhz, 896MB RAM.  Sonnet G4 upgrade.

I have been using Firefox as my main browser, but decided to give a 
couple of other browsers a try to see if they showed video any 
better.  I noticed that SeaMonkey showed a YouTube video much more 
smoothly that Firefox or the latest Safari.  I am interested in 
learning why one browser is faster than another, and if there is 
anything I can do to my version of Firefox to make it run as fast on 
videos as SeaMonkey.  I have Firefox 3.0.11.  Firefox and Safari were 
badly out of sync when showing the same video.  SeaMonkey was 
smoother and much less out of sync.


Also:  I noticed that some of my favorite sites (that require a 
login) did not "recognize" me when I used a different browser.  What 
can I do to fix this annoying problem?  Do I have to re-register?

Thanks for any suggestions.


Larry Eden

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(SOLVED) Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[insightinmind]

Thanks all.

I'm satisfied that this thread is finished, problem solved, and then  
some.

Bill Connelly

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Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[PeterH]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:14 AM, irrational john wrote:

> I'm basing that on what I read in this Wikipedia article which sounds
> credible to me.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Attachment#Cable_select

As usual Wiki is Wiki. Take it or leave it, as you choose.

The background for the CS, first, during device initialization, and M/ 
S, second, during normal device operations, as employed by Apple in  
the B&W and all later models, is ...

US Patent 5761460 - Reconfigurable dual master IDE interface

... which patent "teaches" how an IDE interface may be utilized in a  
new and inventive way to:

1) determine if a cable is attached at all,

2) if a cable is attached, to determine which of 40-wire/40-pin or 80- 
wire/40-pin cable it is,

3) if a master device exists, to determine the fastest it is capable  
of being operated,

4) if a slave device exists, to determine the fastest it is capable  
of being operated, and, finally

5) given all of the above, the possible two semi-independent channels  
(on the one single bus) may be appropriately programmed for the best  
device utilization.

Implicit in the above objectives, the devices themselves may  
interrogate the connector and its cable to determine how best to  
communicate with the host.

In all of these discussions, the computer itself is the initiator  
(host), and the attached devices are responders (dependents whether  
master or slave doesn't matter as masters and slaves are actually  
"peers" of each other).

For the particular case of modern optical drives, such as fast DVD  
burners, the burner needs to know if it can depend upon the host to  
ship data with high data integrity, and at a rate which will not  
cause the device to under-run (implicitly, a device cannot be over- 
run as the host is programmed to ensure this).

So, the burners specifically look for the differences between the 40- 
wire/40-pin and the 80-wire/40-pin cable, and it limits the burn rate  
to 8X or less for the 40-wire/40-pin case, and possibly 20X or more  
(but surely more than 8X) for the 80-wire/40-pin case.

 From the patent  text (abbreviated):

...

SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

A dual-master data storage interface is disclosed which flexibly  
configures and connects data storage drives in the portable computer  
to optimize performance when the portable computer is operating in a  
stand-alone mode. The invention further optimizes accessibility to  
additional data storage drives when the portable computer is docked  
to an expansion unit.

The interface has first and second channels adapted to control first  
and second data storage drives and registers for configuring each  
drive as a master drive or a slave drive. When the portable computer  
operates as a stand-alone unit (i.e., not docked to the expansion  
unit), each drive on the portable is configured to operate as a  
master drive which is separately connected to a channel to optimize  
performance.

...

Upon separation, each drive on the portable computer is configured  
and remapped as a master on a separate channel for maximizing data  
transfer performance. Thus, by allowing for flexibility in changing  
the drive configuration and channel connection, the invention ensures  
compatibility with the standard BIOS when the portable computer is  
docked with the expansion unit. Further, the present invention  
optimizes data transfer performance from the drives when the portable  
computer is separated from the expansion unit.

...

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Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

[aussieshepsrock]

Hello Tortise!
   thank you for your response. I think it's length demonstrates the
incredible maze of complex variables, theory, and differing goals,
people are both interacting with and attempting to achieve. The option
of giving easy answers to 'simple' questions is almost precluded by
the difficulty of the topic itself and the challenges of the
technologies involved.
   My personal choice at this time is to reach for something to give
me a fixed point to interact with my variables from. Right now, I have
the variability of my Display, the variability of my Perception, and
the variability of how I transmit my images (internet, cd/dvd, or
print). I can see and quantify the consistency or lack thereof
depending on what I've done (or had done to me) with the variables I
interact with.
   I have chosen to use a Color Calibration Device to quantify and
measure my variables. It is the 'Yardstick' I will pick up to measure
what various equipment is providing me at a given point in time or
method of usage. Instead of measuring the deviation between the
'varying' display I am using against the 'varying' output method I
used using the 'varying' perception provided by my human eyes and
brain, I will be using a 'fixed' measuring device.
   I see my challenge as analagous to needing 1 foot sections of 2"x2"
lumber and cutting the board by 'eyeballing' my cuts. When I line up
the '1ft' pieces up alongside each other, none of them will be the
same length. If I'm experienced, practiced, and used to the saw I'm
using, they might be close, but they won't be the same. If I'm
inexperienced or suddenly using equipment I've not used before, those
boards can be wildly disparate in their length and even if they are
consistent, might not be anywhere close to exactly 12 inches in length
because I have no benchmark for what 12 inches actually means! This is
the Section of my Decision Tree I feel the most confidence about. I am
acquiring a 'ruler' to make my measurements with.
   Where the 'rubber' meets the road is actually having positive
things come of the 'Measurements' I make with my device. I ancedotally
hear good things about the Software included with the ColorMunki &
ColorSpyder type devices and the 'relative' consistency the programs
can bring to a users life. I have little info about using the software
or their methodologies and zero experience actually physically using
them. I am lucky in that I am implementing a system in order to
satisfy personal goals and needs. A commercial or business imperative
isn't involved here - ie: a Wedding Photographer spending a week doing
his color balancing and image edits only to have his thousand dollar
print and album order turn out to be jacked up and worthless. (Hint:
Pro Labs aren't Walmart - you pay for what you as the customer send to
print, if the bride is a subtle hint of orange in some and a subtle
hint of plum in others because of the color of the light outside your
window or you turned all the lights off in the evening, you get to pay
twice for your client's prints. OUCH!

As you can see, a 500 buck Color Calibrator is 'expensive', but if it
saves a Single 1,000 buck print order it pays for itself.
As a Home User, it can pay for itself in the Inkjet Ink you DIDN"T
waste across the months and years trying to make your 4x6's/5x7's/
8x10's and such LOOK the way they ought and the way you expect them
to.

I am an ex-Darkroom Jockey. I recall the glory and satisfaction of
having 'calibrated' my Camera, my Meter, my Film Development, and
Print Processing, to reference standards. Instead of chasing my tail
for an hour to get an 'acceptable' print from my negative, I could
reliably get a usable 8x10 from it the first time thru the 'soup' and
make creative choices from there!

To be able to hit print and get a photo print out of my inkjet that
might not be 'perfect' the first time, but isn't something I'd be
ashamed to have seen is something I'd move heaven and earth for! I
don't expect there to be an exact 'clone' of the image I interact with
on my screen - physics and biology make that impossible - but
'consistently close' is more than enough!

I know there is a challenge implementing a Color Calibration Scheme
and that I have quite the range of theory and knowledge to more fully
acquire and appreciate, but at least as an Informed Consumer I now
know the things 'I Don't Know' and am acting to alleviate the gaps.

Please remember the topic I gave this thread I started. I came asking
if someone had somewhere to look or learn more about specific displays
from the viewpoint of someone who values colors and images in a
somewhat similar manner to myself.

Richard
:-)

On Jun 17, 12:29 am, tortoise  wrote:
> On Jun 15, 5:29 pm, aussieshepsrock  wrote:
>
> > Hi Adrian,
> >    good question re:Color Calibration's Usefulness To Me? It's easy to
> > overlook the variable knowledge bases and interests of the list
> > members in one's quest for assistance with a more narrow question. The
> > 

Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[irrational john]

On Jun 17, 10:15 am, insightinmind  wrote:
> Someone stated (Peter, I believe, if I understood correctly) Apple,  
> historically,  uses an HP/Compaq patented Startup protocol that  
> requires the "Cable Select" (slitted) off the mobo ATA cable at  
> Startup, then, depending on the machine and particular hard drive  
> specs,  uses whatever the drive is set to (CS/Single/Master/Slave).  

First the caveat that I am only familiar ... to whatever extent I have
an understanding ... with the hard drive side of this discussion. I
haven't worked with PATA drives in a Mac and I certainly have *never*
worked with a PPC Mac (though I *have* worked on PPC systems so the
PPC is not a complete mystery to me ;-).

What confuses me in the above is the speculation that the hardware
might somehow "require" Cable Select. Support for Cable Select is
mostly about the cable you use. The hardware/controller has a
relatively small part to play.

I'm basing that on what I read in this Wikipedia article which sounds
credible to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Attachment#Cable_select

In particular ...
"Cable select is controlled by pin 28. The host adapter grounds this
pin; if a device sees that the pin is grounded, it becomes the master
device; if it sees that pin 28 is open, the device becomes the slave
device."

and

"Pin 28 is only used to let the drives know their position on the
cable; it is not used by the host when communicating with the drives."

To that I'd add that I can't see any way in which a controller could
"interegate" pin 28 to learn anything about the attached drives. So I
don't see how the hardware could "require" Cable Select in any way.

Bottom line as I see it, there are three reasons why Cable Select
might not work:
1) The drive doesn't support it (correctly).
2) The cable doesn't implement it correctly. (Most likely scenario and
easiest to test for/fix IMO. PATA cables are one big PITA IMHO :)
3) The controller doesn't properly ground Pin 28. (Can't say how
likely or not this might be. Depends on the "age" of the hardware, I
suppose.)

But, then again, I've been wrong before ...

-irrational john
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Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

[aussieshepsrock]

Hi Bruce,
   thank you for the suggestion re: Scott Kelby's book, I'll add it to
my acquisition list - which grows ever longer, but good reference
materials are always a great 'first buy'.
Here's my thoughts on your responses :-)

> > A: I want my 'pictures' to appear consistently the same when I open
> > then, no matter how far apart they're opened over time :-)
>
> Monitors drift. Also, store you images in a cool, dry place, heat can  
> cause color shifts :-P

Very Correct Bruce - Displays do drift in their 'representations' of
what's being sent to it, even if those files haven't changed a whit.
It's an inherent variable within any of our display technologies with
some of the variables being the Bulbs/LED's in our LCD's, CRT's and
LCD's chemicals and electronic bits aging, changing, or wearing out
over time.
-FURTHER-
The 'place' we use a Display is usually variable, too. Frequently
there is a window and the 'color' of the Daylight changes depending on
time, weather, season, and how we may have our blinds, curtains, or
shades, positioned at any given time. Even if we've avoided the
'window' variable by just having artificial illumination in our work
space, those lamps, bulbs, and fixtures, bring both the 'inherent'
issues of the light they give and the variability of their output in
use and over time. Ooops almost forgot to mention the variables we can
introduce by having a desk lamp on sometimes, but not other times, or
switching between overheads or floor lamps during the day. Variable
Soup! :-)
-Further-
Since we as 'users' are 'Human Beings', it means we are Biological and
therefore are Variable. It's inherent in the 'technology' of the
Bodies we use to Perceive the world around us. :-) It's neither a good
thing, a bad thing, or any thing at all beyond a statement of the our
variability.
As a Diabetic and someone with both an inherent sense of color and the
habits and experiences my 20+ years in Photography bring to the table,
I can state categorically and irrefutable that something as simple as
a variance in my Blood Sugar Level changes my Perceptions of Color!
(InMyHumbleUnderstanding - the changed density and content of the
fluids in my eye work to 'filter' the colors reaching the rods and
cones in the eye and changing the 'appearance' of the world around
me!).

> > B: I want the images I send to a home printer to bear a close
> > resemblence to what I see on my monitor before hitting print :-)
>
> This is where printer and paper (don't forget the paper!) profiles  
> come in so useful.

True, Profiles are 'where' it's at, but that is the wonder of the
'Color Munki' by xRite. It will calibrate most any display and
projector and printer also! it has the ability to 'sample' the
color of a physical object much like those systems they have at paint
stores for matching paint to the color of a fabric sample you bring in
by holding it under a sensor.. quite cool.

> > C: I want to take advantage of the 'profiles' available from a Photo
> > Lab I use to primarily print my photographs. :-)
>
> I would get on some pro/semi-pro digital photographer boards and ask  
> your questions there.

Surprisingly, The boards haven't been especially helpful, at least the
ones I have interacted with. It boils down to the fact there is simply
a low statistical probability of encountering someone who a: knows
what they're talking about, b: can explain it, and/or c: has any
experience implementing a color control process usable beyond the
equipment and variables the person coped with 'fixing' their own color/
display/printing gremlins!

My forlorn hope for finding a 'recipe' for implementing some color
consistency or a straight forward list of do's and don't's has been
utterly dashed at this point!

> I just got a book by Scott Kelby   
> (The "Photoshop CS4 for Digital Photographers" book) which has a good  
> section on calibrating and using profiles.
>
> I found the book easy to read and understand; he's got a reputation as  
> a good teacher.

I'll definitely aquire the book!

> --
> Bruce Johnson
Thanks Again Bruce

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Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[insightinmind]

The problem I was having may have been due to a nearby PCI card  
crimping the Apple supplied short mobo ATA cable: I had also mounted  
my drive in the top position of the QSs piggyback sled,  for better  
air flow.

Of course when trying to debug a sole drive "dropping off the  
desktop", you can go different routes: UltraATA (or UltraDMA) drives  
not being supported as Cable Select off a Cable Select setup in a QS  
2002, according to an Apple manual, was one of the places.

Someone stated (Peter, I believe, if I understood correctly) Apple,  
historically,  uses an HP/Compaq patented Startup protocol that  
requires the "Cable Select" (slitted) off the mobo ATA cable at  
Startup, then, depending on the machine and particular hard drive  
specs,  uses whatever the drive is set to (CS/Single/Master/Slave).  
(Note: Maxtors & others, are sometimes different from Seagates).

Several links in a chain of IDE channel events, any one of which MAY  
break the desired result of a good connection being established AND  
then maintained.

As recently suggested, to be on the safe side, I decided upon  
returning to using the un-crimped Apple slit  "CS ATA cable" with my  
Seagate Ultra ATA(DMA) 750GB 7200.10 drive, jumpered to Master. So  
far, the drive has not started clicking, and dropping off the  
radar ... which to me could indicate a failing drive and/or a bad  
connection. With it being a year old, light use, Seagate, and the  
crimped cable, I'm going with it having been a bad connection, for now.

And I am using the symbolically unpleasant terms of Master/Slave to  
solve my hard drive dropping dead while over-working issue ...  
although I have no Slaves in my household.

Bill Connelly
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Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 6:00 AM, Nestamicky wrote:

>
> On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote:
>
>> Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they
>> are forever "damaged".
>
> This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual.
> If you're installing your OS with the disk, why can't people just
> simply use the advance install option and uncheck languages they
> don't need and printers they don't have? That seems simple to me.

So long as you know which button to click and when.

> Dan, there was Monolingial and another app mentioned in this
> threadis that other one...name escapes..."damage" files as well?

The other one was 'Delocalizer' and it does not do anything about  
alternate architectures.

Truthfully, stripping fat binaries never gains you a whole lot of free  
space, because the vast bulk of most applications lies in the  
resources and help files.

For example: TextEdit is 22.1 MB in size. The actual textEdit compiled  
binary part, which includes both PPC and X86 code? 264K.

Monolingual will strip the extra language resources out of the app,  
too, I think, which will result in a lot of savings. Manually  
stripping the extra language resources from TextEdit cut it down to  
1.9 mb. No need to screw up the binaries as well.

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Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[irrational john]

On Jun 17, 10:37 am, PeterH  wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Ralph Green wrote:
> > Use CS if you are prepared to
> > have your computer guess which drive is which and whether you have the
> > right cable.
>
> There is no "guessing" involved.
>
> The drive which is connected to the black connector is master; the
> drive which is connected to the gray connector is slave.

Yes. Convenience  was the main reason I preferred using CS back
towards the end of the days when I was primarily using PATA drives.
Having to muck around with the master/slave jumpers every time I moved
a drive was extremely tedious & annoying.

Typically I would *always* drop a jumper while trying to change things
around.

At this point in my life my eyes don't function well enough to make
finding a jumper buried in a carpet in bad lighting a minor glitch.

But whatever works ... and to each their own ...

-irrational john
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Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[PeterH]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Ralph Green wrote:

> Use any flat IDE cable you want.

Only if you want to force the lowest possible performance, as without  
the additional information available using the technique previously  
mentioned, the 'puter has no other choice but to force basic mode  
(16.67 MB/sec), and all models from the B&W on make the provision for  
enhanced mode (33 MB/sec, or faster).



> Use 80 pin cables if you want speeds
> greater than 33 megabytes per second.

That is but one (and only one) reason to use 80-wire/40-pin cables.

Another is most modern optical drives, although these never use  
faster than 33 MB/sec, these require 80-wire/40-pin cables for more  
than 8X writing.

Although the OEM packaging never says so, the retail packaging  
certainly does: in order for the drive to operate faster than 8X an  
80-wire/40-pin cable is required, even if the host bus is 16.67 MB/sec.

An 80-wire/40-pin cable may also be required for some of the improved  
burning strategies ("always write", etcetera).

Bottom line: to ensure the highest percentage of good burns, and,  
conversely, the lowest percentage of "coasters", an 80-wire/40-pin  
cable is required.

All desktop Macs from B&W on use an 80-wire/40-pin cable for both ATA  
buses, whether those buses are ATA-2, ATA-3 or ATA-4 (and higher ATA  
modes on the MDD).

Only the Beige used a 40-wire/40-pin cable, and that model series was  
limited to 16.67 MB/sec, and two masters if Revision 1, and two  
masters and two slaves if Revision 2 or 3.

(The Revision 2 or 3 models could accept slaves on the optical bus,  
but the HD bus was never provided with a slave connector on any  
revision, for the reason that the slave drive would be located more  
than 18 inches from the host connector, although that limit could be  
exceeded with specially designed and tested cables).



> Use CS if you are prepared to
> have your computer guess which drive is which and whether you have the
> right cable.

There is no "guessing" involved.

The drive which is connected to the black connector is master; the  
drive which is connected to the gray connector is slave.

But, as master and slave are actually "peers", it doesn't matter  
which drive is master and which drive is slave, just as long as the  
following rule is met: if there is only one drive on a bus, it must  
be master and it must be at the end of the cable.

The black connector is on the end of the cable.

Incidentally, the black, gray and blue connectors are not identical.

There are pins missing (open) or are present and are grounded  
(closed) in certain strategic positions.

In this way, the host may determine if the cable is 40-wire/40-pin or  
is 80-wire/40-pin, or is not present at all, and also the maximum  
operating speed of each connected device.

80-wire/40-pin cables allow for asymmetric operation (16.67 MB/sec  
for one device, and 33 MB/sec or faster for the other device).



> Set the master/slave settings if you want to know it will
> work.


Well, yeah, but all of the above must be met, too.



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Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

[Dan]

Title: Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for
G3/G4



At 7:00 AM -0600 6/17/2009, Nestamicky wrote:
On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote:
Note that once
you've hit the system and apps with this tool,
they 
are forever
"damaged".


This is a very very very important thing
to know about Monolingual. If you're installing your OS with the disk,
why can't people just simply use the advance install option and
uncheck languages they don't need and printers they don't
have?

They could.  Or perhaps they change their mind later.

Then there are the apps that ship with umpteen (language)
localizations in them.

- Dan.
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Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[Len Gerstel]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Nestamicky wrote:

>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Ralph Green wrote:
>
>> Use any flat IDE cable you want.  Use 80 pin cables if you want  
>> speeds
>> greater than 33 megabytes per second.
>
> I thought an IDE cable is an IDE cable is anso when you say to  
> use 80 pin IDE for increased speed, what do you mean? Please expand  
> on this as I'd like to go through my box of cables and pick out all  
> the 80 pins and use them.

It is not 80 pin, it is 80 wires. The cables still have the standard  
40 pins.

The newer ATA specs (starting with Ultra DMA/33) call for 80 wires to  
cut down on crosstalk between the wires. The extra wires are ground  
wires not connected to any pins and are in between each signal wire.

Most modern drives in their specs say they require 80 wire cables to  
operate at full speed. You can still use 40 pin, but your throughput  
MAY not be at the drives maximum.

HTH,
Len



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Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

[Dan]

At 6:56 AM -0600 6/17/2009, Nestamicky wrote:
>which version, of the 7450 or 7400, should I get from RPM



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Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

[Dan]

At 2:21 AM -0500 6/17/2009, Ralph Green wrote:
>
>HTML is rejected by most lists I am on.  How well does this demime
>work?  It might be friendlier than rejecting.

Not very well.  The problem is that html mails tend to use indent 
tags, instead of the normal "> ", to denote quoting,.  So when you 
strip the html, the text flattens - then you can't tell who wrote 
what.

>I think a better approach to 2 is to limit the quoted text to a percentage.

A hard limit doesn't always work well either.  Sometimes a post is 
just so convoluted that even after you've removed the noise, you end 
up with a lot of necessary context to quote.

>I had never heard of the List-id header.

Tell your mail client to view some messages in their raw form, so you 
can visually review all the headers.  There are some useful / 
interesting things there!  Mailing lists aren't consistent with 
header use, tho.  So I tend to just filter on the To header, or 
sometimes "any" header.

- Dan.
-- 
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Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

[Nestamicky]

On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote:

> Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they
> are forever "damaged".

This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual.  
If you're installing your OS with the disk, why can't people just  
simply use the advance install option and uncheck languages they  
don't need and printers they don't have? That seems simple to me.  
Dan, there was Monolingial and another app mentioned in this  
threadis that other one...name escapes..."damage" files as well?
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Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

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On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

> PPC, G3, G4, G5,

Someone may have answered this, but which version, of the 7450 or  
7400, should I get from RPM for a Titanium G4. I relent, I'd try this  
build and see if my horrible internet video playback is improved on  
this 400 Mhzm 1GB machine. 
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Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[Nestamicky]

On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Ralph Green wrote:

> Use any flat IDE cable you want.  Use 80 pin cables if you want speeds
> greater than 33 megabytes per second.

I thought an IDE cable is an IDE cable is anso when you say to  
use 80 pin IDE for increased speed, what do you mean? Please expand  
on this as I'd like to go through my box of cables and pick out all  
the 80 pins and use them. 
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Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

[Nestamicky]

On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:01 PM, MaGioZal wrote:

>
> On 6/16/09 1:28 AM, Po-en Tsai at  wrote:
>
>> Or, like me, I would switch onto my Panther 10.3 partition,  
>> running Firefox
>> 2.04 to watch anything Flash based. It seems to work for me, and  
>> Youtube works
>> fine like that.
>>
>> Upgrading ram may help, with my iMac, I had 512mb ram, but  
>> upgraded to 768mb,
>> which sped flash up a bit.
>
>
> Well, when I run primairly Mac OS 9 here with Mozilla 1.2.1 and  
> Flash 7,
> YouTibe videos also ran very badly, too. I am a Beige G3 owner.
>
>
I made a mistake saying it was 768, I actually have the ram maxed out  
at a gig. This is really sad.
>
>
>
> --
> MaGioZal.
> 
>
>
>
> >


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G5 Heat

[Eric Volker]

I had planned on using my old dual G5 as a file server (yes, using  
Leopard), with occasional use as web browser  plus multimedia box. It  
serves all three purposes admirably, but the problem is that it  
generates way too much heat. In the winter, this wasn't too much of a  
problem, but now that it's summer here in Alabama, it gets my computer  
room way too hot, even running at idle. Is there a way to reduce heat  
production on this thing, perhaps by throttling the CPUs? I seem to  
recall a utility that would let you shut down individual CPUs on a  
multiple CPU machine, but I can't recall the name of the utility.  
Machine specs below...

Eric

Powermac G5 (1.8GHz x 2)
2GB DDR RAM
500GB SATA Seagate 7200 RPM drive
80GB SATA Drive
NVidia GeForce 5200 FX 64MB RAM Video Card
Echo Indigo IO Audio Card
SIIG PCI-PCMCIA Bridge Card
Buffalo 802.11g Wireless Card (recognized as Airport)



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Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)

[Ralph Green]

Howdy,
 Use any flat IDE cable you want.  Use 80 pin cables if you want speeds
greater than 33 megabytes per second.  Use CS if you are prepared to
have your computer guess which drive is which and whether you have the
right cable.  Set the master/slave settings if you want to know it will
work.  The master/slave settings do have to be set right, so some
companies and people don't want to do it.  Some drives have separate
settings for Master with slave and Master without slave(aka Single).  I
am not saying you won't get it to work any other way.  But, follow those
simple rules and it will work.
Good luck,
Ralph

On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 15:18 -0400, insightinmind wrote:

> Just for the main hard drive connection:
> 
> So it is NOT ok to use the UltraATA cable (Space Shuttle-D, Cd & Pb  
> Free, 80wire/40pin) supplied in a Retail Box Kit along with a Seagate  
> UltraATA drive as the cable off the Apple mobo, because of a HP/ 
> Compaq patented method of interrogating the drive at Startup, in my  
> Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz? I need to put back the short one with the  
> slit (hence Cable Select cable), and set my Seagate to Master,  
> because ...



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Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

[Ralph Green]

Howdy,
  HTML is rejected by most lists I am on.  How well does this demime
work?  It might be friendlier than rejecting.
  I think a better approach to 2 is to limit the quoted text to a
percentage.  In a very long response, it might be reasonable to have
more than 20 quoted lines.
 I had never heard of the List-id header.  Thanks.  I am going to have
to check the lists I am responsible for to see that they implement it.
Have a good day,
Ralph

On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 14:06 -0600, Doug McNutt wrote:
> 1: Use demime to get rid of useless HTML submitted by posters. There are 
> reasons for HTML but list postings rarely need it. Perhaps a procedure for 
> allowing HTML in short attachments for special cases. After a few postings 
> get mangled users would get wise to submitting in ASCII text only.
> 
> 2: Limit quoted text to, say, 20 lines and enforce it by truncating in 
> software.
> 
...
> 6: Either get rid of the [G3-5] list identifier in the subject line or make 
> it optional
>  for each client. Encourage list users to filter based on the List-id: header



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