Re: Is this right? (QT -> m4v video question)

[Dana Collins]

> On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins  wrote:
>> I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
>> audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
>> original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
>> convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
>> projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select "export"
>> then "movie to iPod"
(end Quote)


On 8/20/09 6:34 PM, starrf...@valley.net of starrf...@valley.net sent

> 
> Try Handbrake.  It does a conversion appropriate for the end
> hardware.  Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be.
> 
> Free too, if I remember correctly.
> 
> Rich

Yes, I have Handbrake. I will also give that a try.
Basically looking for something that shrinks video file size for use in an
iPod; surely others have done it?
Thanks,
Dana



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Re: Is this right? (QT -> m4v video question)

[starrfarr]

Try Handbrake.  It does a conversion appropriate for the end
hardware.  Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be.

Free too, if I remember correctly.

Rich


On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins  wrote:
> I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
> audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
> original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
> convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
> projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select "export"
> then "movie to iPod", converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
> took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
> maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
> whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
> reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded "compression" as mp3 is to
> audio?).
> Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
> algorithm?
> Thanks in advance,
> Dana
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Re: Is this right? (QT -> m4v video question)

[starrfarr]

Try Handbrake.  It does a conversion appropriate for the end
hardware.  Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be.

Free too, if I remember correctly.

Rich

On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins  wrote:
> I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
> audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
> original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
> convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
> projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select "export"
> then "movie to iPod", converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
> took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
> maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
> whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
> reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded "compression" as mp3 is to
> audio?).
> Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
> algorithm?
> Thanks in advance,
> Dana
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Re: Is this right? (QT -> m4v video question)

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Dana Collins wrote:

>
>
>
>
> On 8/20/09 2:39 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent
>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Dana Collins wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
>>> audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The  
>>> QT
>>> original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
>>> convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead  
>>> screen
>>> projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select  
>>> "export"
>>> then "movie to iPod", converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
>>> took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip  
>>> is
>>> maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
>>> whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially  
>>> the
>>> reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded "compression" as mp3 is to
>>> audio?).
>>> Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
>>> algorithm?
>>
>> It's entirely possible to do this, as QT might well be upscaling the
>> video, because convert .mov to iPod gets you specifically
>> formatted .m4v files.
>>
>> Without knowing what the original specs are, it's hard to tell, but  
>> if
>> it was small (320 x 240 or something) it could well have been smaller
>> in the original; .mov files can contain considerable compression as
>> well.
>>
>> To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings.
>
>
> Thank you for responding, Bruce. Let's see if I can be clearer. The  
> movie
> was found on YouTube, and was downloaded as (I am sure) a Flash  
> movie via
> Perian, then ported to QuickTime. QT's movie inspector says this  
> about the
> resulting file:
>
> H.264 (Perian), 512 x 288, Millions
> AAC, Stereo, 44.100 kHz
> With normal size stated as:
> 512 x 288 pixels (actual)
>
> What I want to do is "shrink" it, i.e. Do the same to it as say MP3  
> or Lame
> (or yet another lossless compressor - yes, I know MP3 is not  
> lossless per
> se, but I'm offering an analogy) does to uncompressed audio - would  
> that not
> be the *intent* of porting such a document to an iPod?
>

Yes and no. Porting to the iPod is a matter of compression (for things  
like DVD's) and conversion to the correct format. I've tried  
converting some .flv video to .mv4 manually with QT pro and have ended  
up with gigantic file sizes; I clearly don't know what I'm doing...

Send me the youtube ID or URL, I'll see what cosmopod will make of it,  
as it makes pretty well optimized movies. (or you can try cosmopod  
yourself 

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Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options

[Len Gerstel]

On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:34 PM, d p wrote:

>
> Alrigt. So I got a 450 AGP G4,
> what proccessor can I "drop in" without any modifications?

The only straight drop ins from Apple that will increase your speed  
are a single 500 from a Sawtooth or duals from the Gig ethernet  
series. In order to use them the duals, you need to have a Uni-N  
revision of 7 or higher. Here is a link to a download to test.

http://newertech.com/tech_support/uni-north.php

As to non Apple drop ins, most G4 accelerators will work. Most are  
either autosensing or have dip switches to work with the motherboard  
speed. The pins are the same from Sawtooth through Quicksilver, and  
most manufacturers built their upgrades to fit all of those.

You can probably pick up a 900-1Ghz processor on the swap list for  
around $100.

Len
  

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Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options

[Christopher Clarke]

A 500Mhz G4 would work, as would a 400 (although that would be  
pointless imho) and although you state without any mods, its not a  
huge task to get a dual 500 to work if yours is a Gigabit Ethernet  
model.

Chris.
On 20 Aug 2009, at 21:34, d p wrote:

>
> Alrigt. So I got a 450 AGP G4,
> what proccessor can I "drop in" without any modifications?
>
> On Aug 19, 11:11 am, Christopher Clarke
>  wrote:
>> I know that you cant put a Dual onto a Non-Dual mobo without
>> modifications - as it needs more power etc. Also, I think all
>> QuickSilver G4 CPUs were interchangeable between same models (ie QS
>> 2001 could have any 2001 CPU etc.)
>>
>> Chris,
>> On 19 Aug 2009, at 19:09, Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Here's something we don't have on Low End Mac, something a reader  
>>> just
>>> asked about: What models are CPUs pulled from other Power Macs
>>> compatible with?
>>
>>> I know that 466 and 533 MHz CPUs from Digital Audio work with the  
>>> 100
>>> Mhz bus in Sawtooth and Mystic, and all G4 Power Macs with AGP video
>>> appear to use exactly the same CPU connector.
>>
>>> This could create a market for pulled CPUs
>>
>>> Looking forward to your feedback!
>>
>>> Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com
>
> >


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Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options

[d p]

Alrigt. So I got a 450 AGP G4,
what proccessor can I "drop in" without any modifications?

On Aug 19, 11:11 am, Christopher Clarke
 wrote:
> I know that you cant put a Dual onto a Non-Dual mobo without  
> modifications - as it needs more power etc. Also, I think all  
> QuickSilver G4 CPUs were interchangeable between same models (ie QS  
> 2001 could have any 2001 CPU etc.)
>
> Chris,
> On 19 Aug 2009, at 19:09, Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here's something we don't have on Low End Mac, something a reader just
> > asked about: What models are CPUs pulled from other Power Macs
> > compatible with?
>
> > I know that 466 and 533 MHz CPUs from Digital Audio work with the 100
> > Mhz bus in Sawtooth and Mystic, and all G4 Power Macs with AGP video
> > appear to use exactly the same CPU connector.
>
> > This could create a market for pulled CPUs
>
> > Looking forward to your feedback!
>
> > Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com

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Re: Is this right? (QT -> m4v video question)

[Dana Collins]

On 8/20/09 2:39 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

> 
> 
> On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Dana Collins wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
>> audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
>> original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
>> convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
>> projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select "export"
>> then "movie to iPod", converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
>> took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
>> maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
>> whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
>> reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded "compression" as mp3 is to
>> audio?).
>> Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
>> algorithm?
> 
> It's entirely possible to do this, as QT might well be upscaling the
> video, because convert .mov to iPod gets you specifically
> formatted .m4v files.
> 
> Without knowing what the original specs are, it's hard to tell, but if
> it was small (320 x 240 or something) it could well have been smaller
> in the original; .mov files can contain considerable compression as
> well.
> 
> To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings.


 Thank you for responding, Bruce. Let's see if I can be clearer. The movie
was found on YouTube, and was downloaded as (I am sure) a Flash movie via
Perian, then ported to QuickTime. QT's movie inspector says this about the
resulting file:

H.264 (Perian), 512 x 288, Millions
AAC, Stereo, 44.100 kHz
With normal size stated as:
512 x 288 pixels (actual)

What I want to do is "shrink" it, i.e. Do the same to it as say MP3 or Lame
(or yet another lossless compressor - yes, I know MP3 is not lossless per
se, but I'm offering an analogy) does to uncompressed audio - would that not
be the *intent* of porting such a document to an iPod?

> To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings.

In QuickTime? What are some good "custom" settings? What are others doing to
media as they prep it for iTunes marketability?

Many thanks,
Dana



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Re: Is this right? (QT -> m4v video question)

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Dana Collins wrote:

>
> I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
> audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
> original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
> convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
> projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select "export"
> then "movie to iPod", converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
> took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
> maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
> whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
> reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded "compression" as mp3 is to
> audio?).
> Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
> algorithm?

It's entirely possible to do this, as QT might well be upscaling the  
video, because convert .mov to iPod gets you specifically  
formatted .m4v files.

Without knowing what the original specs are, it's hard to tell, but if  
it was small (320 x 240 or something) it could well have been smaller  
in the original; .mov files can contain considerable compression as  
well.

To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings.

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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Is this right? (QT -> m4v video question)

[Dana Collins]

I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select "export"
then "movie to iPod", converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded "compression" as mp3 is to
audio?).
Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
algorithm?
Thanks in advance,
Dana
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Re: B&W won't boot off firewire?

[Liam Proven]

2009/8/14 ronaldo :
>
> So... an unmodified G3 'Smurf' can't boot through either Firewire or
> USB ports... without XPost Facto tricks.  But what about a G3 upgraded
> with a Sonnet G4 400 Mhz card... can anyone pronounce definitively on
> that?

If a car cannot fly, it does not matter how big an engine you fit, it
still will not fly.

Changing the CPU does not magically enable a motherboard to do
something it cannot. What devices are bootable is a function of the
firmware, not the processor.

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Re: XBMC? remote?

[Dan]

At 9:19 AM -0700 8/20/2009, Clark Martin wrote:
>I don't know if a dual 450 is going to be fast enough.  I use a G4 1.42
>GHz Mini as a media center.  It plays or records video well.  But
>playing AND recording tends to throw some glitches in the playback.
>Recording doesn't seem to be affected.

Check the process prioritites.  You might be able to bump the 
niceness of the playback job a bit, which will smooth it out, and 
still not glitch up the recording.

- Dan.
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Re: XBMC? remote?

[Clark Martin]

PETER WARNER wrote:
> Hey, Sorry if this has been hashed over before, but I am new to the  
> GList.  I am trying to set up a media center on my G4 dual 450. Does  
> anyone have recommendations regarding Software (free?) and the  
> ability to use a remote with it? I happen to have a Pinnacle tv for  
> mac hd mini stick, and would love to use the remote from that for  
> this purpose.  XBMC has a ppc port,  so I am looking at that, but I  
> wanted to hear about real setups other folks have succeeded (or  
> failed) with.
> 
> I know EyeTV light comes with the pinnacle, but I was not to jazzed  
> about it when I tried it out.  For one thing, I want to be able to  
> play videos encoded in many different formats, since that is the way  
> my collection is.

I don't know if a dual 450 is going to be fast enough.  I use a G4 1.42 
GHz Mini as a media center.  It plays or records video well.  But 
playing AND recording tends to throw some glitches in the playback. 
Recording doesn't seem to be affected.

I use an 800MHz QS as a workstation and it plays video okay but 
periodically it stutters some.  It's okay for watching in the garage but 
I wouldn't want to rely on it for watching with the family and all.

I have an EyeTV 250+ and the full EyeTV software.  The software and 
remote work okay.  There are things about it I wish were different but 
that's more of a stylistic thing.


Another thing is you may need USB 2.0 ports to get good recordings from 
a TV device.

And make sure you have plenty of storage.  I originally had a 60 Gb 
drive in mine and it got filled up a few times.  It now as a 320 Gb 
drive which hasn't gotten close to being filled up.


-- 
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Redwood City, CA, USA
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Re: XBMC? remote?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 19, 2009, at 6:17 PM, PETER WARNER wrote:

>
> Hey, Sorry if this has been hashed over before, but I am new to the
> GList.  I am trying to set up a media center on my G4 dual 450. Does
> anyone have recommendations regarding Software (free?) and the
> ability to use a remote with it? I happen to have a Pinnacle tv for
> mac hd mini stick, and would love to use the remote from that for
> this purpose.  XBMC has a ppc port,  so I am looking at that, but I
> wanted to hear about real setups other folks have succeeded (or
> failed) with.
>
> I know EyeTV light comes with the pinnacle, but I was not to jazzed
> about it when I tried it out.  For one thing, I want to be able to
> play videos encoded in many different formats, since that is the way
> my collection is.

Myth TV runs on OS X, but a 450 (even a dual 450) is pretty slow for  
this sort of thing.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
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College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: My QS

[Len Gerstel]

On Aug 20, 2009, at 5:12 AM, dorayme wrote:

>
>
>> Date: Wed, Aug 19 2009 10:27 pm
>> From: Kris Tilford
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
>
>
> In Australia, 500MB coasts over $AU130! The reason I have stopped at
> 1 GB (three sticks in there already: 250x2, 500x1. I would need to
> buy 500x2 to get 1.5MB RAM.
>

You should be able to find someone on the swap list who will ship to  
you. These will fit in a Priority Mail Small Flat Rate box which is US 
$12.95 or send a  first class parcel for US$10.40. So you should be  
able to get 1.5GB for US$70 (AU$84) or so shipped to you.

> What does "AK, HI & US Possesions" mean in their table for shipping
> costs, anyone know? What an obscure thing to put in a table heading
> on a website!

There is the mainland US, referred to as the lower 48 states. Then  
there are 2 outlying states. Alaska (AK), off the NW border of Canada,  
and Hawaii (HI), an island In the Pacific 1/3 of the way to you. US  
Possessions are various territories scattered  that the US has come to  
be in possession of through various wars, treaties and such.

Since these are not part of the contiguous 48 states, shipping is  
normally more expensive since a boat or plane is normally involved.

I don't know how Australian shipping works, but it would be like  
warning someone that shipping a refrigerator from Melborne to Hobart,  
Tasmania will be more expensive than shipping it from Melbourne to  
Canberra.

Len


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Re: My QS

[Len Gerstel]

On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:27 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> On Aug 20, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
>> NONE show up in Apple System Profiler
>
> The Quicksilver needs PC133. Any should work.
>
> Here's 512 MB sticks for $19.99 each:
>
> 
>

G4s need low density pc133 ram.  Most sticks on the market are high  
density. They say these will work in all computers that take a 512MB  
stick which implies that they are low density, but I would check with  
them and that they guarantee Mac compatibility.

Insert shameless plug:

There is also the LEM Swap list where 512MB sticks are going for under  
$20 shipped in the US with many people willing to ship internationally.

Len


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XBMC? remote?

[PETER WARNER]

Hey, Sorry if this has been hashed over before, but I am new to the  
GList.  I am trying to set up a media center on my G4 dual 450. Does  
anyone have recommendations regarding Software (free?) and the  
ability to use a remote with it? I happen to have a Pinnacle tv for  
mac hd mini stick, and would love to use the remote from that for  
this purpose.  XBMC has a ppc port,  so I am looking at that, but I  
wanted to hear about real setups other folks have succeeded (or  
failed) with.

I know EyeTV light comes with the pinnacle, but I was not to jazzed  
about it when I tried it out.  For one thing, I want to be able to  
play videos encoded in many different formats, since that is the way  
my collection is.

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: My QS

[dorayme]

> Date: Wed, Aug 19 2009 10:27 pm
> From: Kris Tilford
>
>
> On Aug 20, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
>> NONE show up in Apple System Profiler
>
> The Quicksilver needs PC133. Any should work.
>
> Here's 512 MB sticks for $19.99 each:
>
> 
>



In Australia, 500MB coasts over $AU130! The reason I have stopped at  
1 GB (three sticks in there already: 250x2, 500x1. I would need to  
buy 500x2 to get 1.5MB RAM.

What does "AK, HI & US Possesions" mean in their table for shipping  
costs, anyone know? What an obscure thing to put in a table heading  
on a website!


--
dorayme




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