Re: New SD camera card reader

[Michael G.M.]

On Nov 26, 2:10 am, Stewie de Young  wrote:
> If the SD card is the only card you use then all you need is one of 
> thesehttp://cgi.ebay.com/SDHC-SD-USB-2-0-Memory-Card-Reader-for-2GB-4GB-8G...
> I paid $2 for mine + post then bought another for my Powerbook.
> Small, simple, fast ( well as fast as USB2.0 will allow anyway ).
>
> Stewie
Thank you both for the fast replies! Got me thinking anyway!
I don't think I'd prefer that flash drive style SD reader.
There's some nice multi card hubs at macsales I've been eying. It also
includes a USB hub.
I dunno. I'll think about it. I have these USB PCI slots I've invested
in and I don't think the flash drive style would work well, it would
probably take up two slots in width. Does it?


Thanks!

Mike

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Re: A question never asked? until now...

[Michael G.M.]

I believe you can use a standard equipped Digital camera or camcorder
properly attached to your Mac for iChat and AIM. I've never bothered
with it either though. I remember all the scares I was getting about
iChat years back with the
security issues. Screen sharing and ichat seem to be the domain for
lawyers to me, honestly. (That's just my opinion) I have used
SeaMonkey's IRC a time or two when something was really pressing for
me to know about SM. Those guys are really helpful, btw.
I'm really not all that interested in it. Kinda reminds me of the TV
phone that never went far.
It's all a matter of preference, I may try it sometime. I do have a
yahoo account, though I rarely ever use it.

-Mike

On Nov 22, 10:52 am, Dan  wrote:
> At 10:48 AM -0500 11/22/2009, Bill Connelly wrote:
>
> >On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Dan wrote:
>
> >>  At 2:11 PM -0800 11/21/2009, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
> >>>  On Nov 21, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
> >>>  It is truly rather
> >>>  difficult to "multi-task" when you're doing a video chat.. and some
> >>>  people generally feel like it's an encroachment of space.
>
> >>  Getting work done can be quite difficult when iChat is bugging you.
> >>  That's why I prefer non-video chats.  Der webcam is boxed, in a
> >>  drawer.  Two dozen tabs open in Adium is nothing.
>
> >The boxed one ... which is it? price range?
>
> >Do you recommend any others?
>
> It's some old Logitech thing, I picked up at a garage sale.
>
> I don't recommend webcams; don't know that much about 'em.
>
> - Dan.
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Re: New SD camera card reader

[Wtob327]

I picked up the new SanDisk Image Mate All In One a few months ago after  
reading about it in the Shutterbug Magazine to replace my older, clunkier, 
San  Disk reader.  This one, which is about: 3/8" thick x 1 1/2" wide x 4  or 
5" high and comes in two parts, the reader and a tiny three prong  base,  
was supposed to be ergonomically designed, space efficient, and  ascetically 
pleasing...and oh yeah, faster too on the data transfer side of  things 
according to that and other reviews.
 
Well, the 2 part unit spends more time separating with the reader falling  
down onto the floor instead of sitting on the desk...the reader, which  
attaches magnetically to the 3 prong base...refuses to stay  attachedvery 
unstable and falls apart if the desk is bumped due to the very  weak 
magnet...always thought for some reason that magnets adversely affected  disks, 
cards, etc!  Maybe why it's so weak?
 
This is the second unit...the first went back to SanDisk to be traded  
out(after the store refused to take it back...some off the wall policy...never  
bought from them again) when the different card slot tolerances were so far  
off that NO CF card would fit the slot, nor would an SDHC!  This one feels  
like the cheap plastic casing is about to separate every time I push in or 
pull  out a card!  It is fast though in comparison to my old one, which 
still  works, very slowly in comparisonand is much bulkier, tooand 
SOLID, both  in build feel and stability on the desk (if you bump it or have 
any 
contact of  any sort with it, it just sits there refusing to fall apart).
 
So, is it faster that other readers Yes.  Is it sturdy No, it  has 
a very cheap feel to it.   Is it affordable  About $32.00  + Tx.  Is it 
a good buy??? Subjective.  Only  fully appreciated by the user who's into 
grinding (from the  prongs going in and out of the CF Card holes and the 
plastic to card contact)  sensations like those experienced from manually 
focusing a camera  lens at the beach after it was dropped in the sand.
 
Note: Not a lot of choices at Office Supply storestry a Micro Center,  
Frye's (at your own risk...Caveat Emptor!!) or
 
Wayne

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RE: New SD camera card reader

[Stewie de Young]

If the SD card is the only card you use then all you need is one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com/SDHC-SD-USB-2-0-Memory-Card-Reader-for-2GB-4GB-8GB-16GB_W0QQitemZ320454208501QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Drives_Storage_Internal?hash=item4a9c8f2bf5
I paid $2 for mine + post then bought another for my Powerbook.
Small, simple, fast ( well as fast as USB2.0 will allow anyway ).

Stewie

> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:41:33 -0800
> Subject: New SD camera card reader
> From: michaelgm717...@gmail.com
> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> 
> My Dazzle card reader seems to have gone the way of all card readers.
> It won't mount or do anything though it shows up in system profile and
> not disk utility with my card inserted.
> 
> These things seem to be about the cheapest cheepo-built peripheral
> I've ever shopped for. Can I get some recommendations for shopping for
> a new one?
> 
> Oh, I'll use it for Mac OS 9 and X too!
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> -Mike
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New SD camera card reader

[Michael G.M.]

My Dazzle card reader seems to have gone the way of all card readers.
It won't mount or do anything though it shows up in system profile and
not disk utility with my card inserted.

These things seem to be about the cheapest cheepo-built peripheral
I've ever shopped for. Can I get some recommendations for shopping for
a new one?

Oh, I'll use it for Mac OS 9 and X too!

Thank you!

-Mike

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Re: New Disks in G5

[iJohn]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Kasey Smith  wrote:
> I would go with the 7200RPM, going from a 5400 to a 7200 even with an
> IDE drive is a big difference.

It used to make a bigger difference than it does now with the newer,
higher bit density platters.

This article might be of interest: "Should You Be Looking For A Hard
Drive Upgrade?" Tom's Hardware - 2009-08-19
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hard-drive-upgrade,2377.html

The article compares the performance of an older and a newer Samsung
drive. The new one is a 1TB Samsung F2 which I expect is equivalent to
the 5400RPM F2 you're looking at. Here's an excerpt:

"The F2 EcoGreen drives comes with 32 MB cache memory, which is four
times more than the SP2004C. But it  spins at only 5,400 RPM.
This isn’t a reason to be scared in the performance area, though, as
this drive still delivers 107 MB/s and hence provides almost twice the
throughput of the 3-4 year old P120 drive."

Clearly ~100 MB/s ain't too shabby. It still won't be limited by your
1.5Gbps theoretical max SATA bandwidth (~185 MB/s??). Other aspects of
your system ... like your CPU performance and max memory transfer rate
... will probably hold it back more.

While you might possibly get a bit better performance by going with a
7200 RPM drive, I don't think with your system you'd really see a
noticeable performance improvement from the extra rotational speed.

You might also take a look at the site http://diskcompare.com. The
site appears to be pretty an indirect way for newegg.com to try to
sell more hard drives. But if you keep that bias in mind, it can still
be a useful way to locate recent hard drive reviews from the various
hardware sites on the Internet.

-irrational john

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Re: New Disks in G5

[Kris Tilford]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Ted Treen wrote:

> I'd be grateful if someone with greater techie knowledge than me could
> advise me on whether the fact that my G5 is SATA1 so 150Mbs as opposed
> to300Mbs SATA2 is going to mean the 1.5TB will not be noticeably  
> slower
> in use.

In real use there is no difference in SATA 1.0 and SATA 2.0 for single  
HDs. There is also no difference in speed for RAID 0 (stripped) pairs  
of two HDs. The only place you might be able to see a real world  
difference would be a RAID 5 array of HDs. It also might be faster to  
use Solid-State Drives (SSDs) instead of mechanical HDs, but these are  
still very expensive.

I know this from experience. I mistakenly thought that the SATA bus  
speed was a limitation, but it's really the latency of the HDs that is  
the limiting factor, and latency hasn't changed much at all. Also,  
some SATA1 controllers are essentially SATA2 with the exception of  
support for rarely used feature called SSC (Spread Spectrum Clocking),  
so an SATA1 & SATA2 controller could be pretty much identical.

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Re: New Disks in G5

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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ted Treen  wrote:

>
> I'd be grateful if someone with greater techie knowledge than me could
> advise me on whether the fact that my G5 is SATA1 so 150Mbs as opposed
> to300Mbs SATA2 is going to mean the 1.5TB will not be noticeably slower
> in use.
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Re: New Disks in G5

[Kasey Smith]

I would go with the 7200RPM, going from a 5400 to a 7200 even with an  
IDE drive is a big difference.
On Nov 25, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Ted Treen wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have an early 2005 G5 dual 2.0, maxed out at 4GB RAM.  I want to put
> some huge drives in it, and am looking at Samsung F3 1TB 7200rpm  
> drives.
>
> There are places (in the UK) where I can get the Samsung F2 1.5TB  
> drive
> for not a lot more, although it's only a 5400rpm drive.
>
> I'd be grateful if someone with greater techie knowledge than me could
> advise me on whether the fact that my G5 is SATA1 so 150Mbs as opposed
> to300Mbs SATA2 is going to mean the 1.5TB will not be noticeably  
> slower
> in use.
>
> I currently have two Seagate ST3320620AS 320GB 7200rpm drives in  
> there,
> and they are perfectly fast enough for my use, although they're  
> getting
> a little full now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted

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New Disks in G5

[Ted Treen]

Hi All,

I have an early 2005 G5 dual 2.0, maxed out at 4GB RAM.  I want to put 
some huge drives in it, and am looking at Samsung F3 1TB 7200rpm drives.

There are places (in the UK) where I can get the Samsung F2 1.5TB drive 
for not a lot more, although it's only a 5400rpm drive.

I'd be grateful if someone with greater techie knowledge than me could 
advise me on whether the fact that my G5 is SATA1 so 150Mbs as opposed 
to300Mbs SATA2 is going to mean the 1.5TB will not be noticeably slower 
in use.

I currently have two Seagate ST3320620AS 320GB 7200rpm drives in there, 
and they are perfectly fast enough for my use, although they're getting 
a little full now.

Thanks,

Ted

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Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4

[Gorka L Martinez Mezo]

Well, that computer is also occasionally used by his older son, studying 
design, for design/Photoshop work!

Try to do that with a contemporary PC box :)

Gorka
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From: "Kasey Smith" 
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Subject: Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4


>
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Stewie de Young wrote:
>
>> Gorka , I use my dual 533MHz Digital Audio ( only about a year
>> younger than yours ) - OS10.3.9 , 1.5Gb Ram, 256mb video card, 80gb
>> + 120Gb HDs as my main machine 8 hours a day drawing CAD plans for
>> houses.
>> It is stable , fast ( fast enough for my CAD program anyway ) easy
>> to work on and easy to expand.
>> I earn a good living using this machine so your GigE still has many
>> useful years left in it for sure.
>
>
> And I use a 400MHz PowerMac G3 with a second monitor as my main
> machine. It is plenty fast for IRC, web browsing, iTunes, and Mail
> all at the same time! (dual monitors helps) Oh, i also have XBolo,
> Otto Matic, and Chopper on it for games! :)
>
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Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4

[Gorka L Martinez Mezo]

Has anyone tried the 64mb ATI Radeon 9600 Pro shipped with 2004 PowerMac G5s 
in older G4 towers?

My friend`s G5 uses this card and I would like to know if it could be 
replaced by something better and moved to the G4 Gigabit. This would be a 
symbiotic move between the Macs!

Searched Google but it isn`t clear if this card can be used in AGP x2 slots!

Gorka 

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Re: A question never asked? until now...

[Glen McKnight]

On 25 Nov 2009, at 14:12, Nestamicky wrote:

> On 11/22/09 4:41 PM, Glen McKnight wrote:
>> I use mine fairly regularly, I use it to connect to others machines  
>> and
>> show them various things or watch them and tell them where they are
>> going wrong, and of course I talk to my family and friends.
> Glen...how do you do this? I thought the camera only output video from
> your machine, but to see others' machine?
>

Hi

Under Leopard you can share screens in ichat, it means whilst  
screensharing you can watch or use your mouse and keyboard to work on  
the other mac.
You start a video conference and then invite them to share a screen,  
they have to give you permission.


Have Fun

Glen



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Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4

[Kasey Smith]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Stewie de Young wrote:

> Gorka , I use my dual 533MHz Digital Audio ( only about a year  
> younger than yours ) - OS10.3.9 , 1.5Gb Ram, 256mb video card, 80gb  
> + 120Gb HDs as my main machine 8 hours a day drawing CAD plans for  
> houses.
> It is stable , fast ( fast enough for my CAD program anyway ) easy  
> to work on and easy to expand.
> I earn a good living using this machine so your GigE still has many  
> useful years left in it for sure.


And I use a 400MHz PowerMac G3 with a second monitor as my main  
machine. It is plenty fast for IRC, web browsing, iTunes, and Mail  
all at the same time! (dual monitors helps) Oh, i also have XBolo,  
Otto Matic, and Chopper on it for games! :)

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Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4

[Len Gerstel]

On Nov 23, 5:08 pm, "Gorka L Martinez Mezo"  wrote:
> I`m slowly upgrading an old G4 Gigabit Ethernet for the young son of a
> friend.
>
>
> It is still used to play games and the original ATI Rage 128 with 16mb VRAM
> isn`t up to the task of running Medal of Honor as fluidly as it should.
>
> Being not too familiar with this model, and after a Google search, I`m
> looking for advice on how to upgrade the video card.

snip

> The ATI Radeon 7500 Mac Edition seems to be compatible, but at 32Mb doesn`t
> seems to provide much advantage for mid-2000s needs!

For the time, the 32MB Radeon 7500 was a significant upgrade from the
16MB Rage. The other option is a GeForce 2MX. IIRC, they were pretty
much top of the line then. Twice the vram and faster processor yielded
a significant speed bump.

Here is a link to a Barefeats test of the Radeon, GeForce and the Rage
in a 466 DA.

http://www.barefeats.com/graphiX.htm

While the DA has a 4X AGP, the speed differences will be similar to a
2X slot. It shows the Radeon and the GeForce as anywhere from 5% to
300% faster than the Rage Pro. I would go with one of those as a bang
for the buck test.

Now if you have games that run under OS 9, there is a pci card that
blows them away, the VooDoo 5 5000. The meanest, badest, fastest pci
video card, but not supported under OS X.

HTH,
Len

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RE: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4

[Stewie de Young]

>  within a reasonable budget! :)
> 
> This is a nine years old machine and while nice to work with, is well past 
> its prime. This is mostly a budget hobby project with the aim of turning it 
> into a chepao gaming machine (within its limits) and kid computer.
> 
> Gorka 

Gorka , I use my dual 533MHz Digital Audio ( only about a year younger than 
yours ) - OS10.3.9 , 1.5Gb Ram, 256mb video card, 80gb + 120Gb HDs as my main 
machine 8 hours a day drawing CAD plans for houses.
It is stable , fast ( fast enough for my CAD program anyway ) easy to work on 
and easy to expand.
I earn a good living using this machine so your GigE still has many useful 
years left in it for sure.

What budget are you setting for the video card ?
Look at the games your kids intend to play on this machine then see what the 
min system requirements are for each game. That should be a fair indicator of 
what you need to buy.
A nice upgrade would be a Radeon 9200 128mb card - about $75+ on ebay

Stewie

  
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Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4

[Gorka L Martinez Mezo]

> I think at the lower end of the scale like a 16mb 2 x AGP vs a 16mb PCI 
> card there would be very little difference but when you start to compare a 
> 128mb PCI vs a 128mb 4 x AGP card there would be a much bigger disparity 
> in performance.
> See here for a comparison
> http://www.cs.umd.edu/class/fall2001/cmsc411/projects/agp/pci_vs_agp.htm
> In this case for Gorka , I mentioned these upper end ATI and nVidia cards 
> ( for a GigE anyway )because he sounded like he wanted a big increase in 
> pixel pushing power.

 within a reasonable budget! :)

This is a nine years old machine and while nice to work with, is well past 
its prime. This is mostly a budget hobby project with the aim of turning it 
into a chepao gaming machine (within its limits) and kid computer.

Gorka 

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Re: wireless internet on G3 Ruby iMac

[COCCORP]

In a message dated 11/25/09 12:07:35 PM, janespra...@comcast.net writes:


> The Ruby G3 iMac is a slot loading, 400 mHz, built in the summer of
> 2000.
> 
> What is a wireless ethernet bridge?
> 

It's a stand-alone device (not running off computer like a USB dongle) that 
receives the wireless signal and then has an ethernet cable running from it 
to the computer needing wireless, to provide it with a wireless connection.

See:
http://www.buy.com/prod/belkin-802-11g-wireless-ethernet-bridge-54-mbps/q/lo
c/111/90133395.html

That is an example of one that I have used; there are several makes, and 
any computer store should have a few.   There are also plenty of used ones.

-

I forgot -- they IS another method of connecting a computer to an ethernet 
signal w/o using a long cable, and that is a POE adapter-setup:

http://www.buy.com/prod/netgear-xavb101-powerline-av-ethernet-adapter-kit/q/
loc/101/208154606.html

Good luck,

Craig W.
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Re: Need to install both Classic and OS-X on old iMac's new hard drive, but how?

[Jane, (Portland, OR)]

On Oct 1, 10:18 am, Tom  wrote:
> My mother-in-law, an elderly and stubborn lady (though nice) refuses
> to give up her old 1 GHz iMac (the half-soccer-ball novelty with the
> little monitor-on-a-stem sticking out of it) even though it dates from
> the Jurassic Period of computing and we all keep telling her she'd be
> better off with a new or at least newer iMac. She's had this Mac since
> she bought it new. The reason she wants to keep the old thing, says
> the sweet old thing, is that she has equally antique applications that
> she cannot bear to part with, and that can only run in OS 9 (such as
> an old genealogy program, an early word processor, solitaire games,
> etc.), and none of the newer iMacs can run Classic. She has simply got
> to run Classic, as well as OS-X for e-mail and surfing the web with
> Safari.
---snip---
> In short, what would be the best way to install both 10.4.11 and
> Classic 9.2.2 on this old G4 iMac?

I am still using this "dinosaur"  as my main desktop! This iMac is
dual boot --- can boot up in OS 9 as well as 10. I have Tiger
installed on mine. As I recall, I installed Tiger first, then booted
up with OS 9 disk and installed it. In The Start Up Preferences, you
can choose which OS to use.

I want to buy a new iMac, too, but don't want to lose the use of some
of my favorite Classic apps! So I would have to keep the "dinosau",
too. Somehow my husband thinks that having 2 Mac desktops, a Powerbook
(his) and MacBook (mine) are  too many computers!

Jane

PS These iMacs are called Flat Screen iMac.

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Re: wireless internet on G3 Ruby iMac

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote:

>>
>> 3) if you happen to either have already, or can get one easier, a  
>> wireless
>> ethernet bridge also has to be included.   It's a stand-alone  
>> device that
>> connects to the iMac via the ethernet port, and allows it to send/ 
>> receive
>> wirelessly.
>>
>> Craig W.
>
> The Ruby G3 iMac is a slot loading, 400 mHz, built in the summer of
> 2000.
>
> What is a wireless ethernet bridge?

A wireless box that connects to your wired ethernet port, and ends  
with a wirelss connection. They're sometimes called Gaming adapters,  
because they'll connect anything with an ethernet port to a wireless  
system.

Here's a bunch at Amazon 

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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:52 AM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote:

> On 25-11-2009 16:56, Bruce Johnson, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu,  
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know what the QS equivalent of this page is:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I cannot find anything like this on Apple's site.
>
> Bruce, you will find the answer in my e-mail to you OffList.

A million thanks Jo. It looks like a bad PS. Pins 22 and 11 have 23.6  
V not 25 V and  the fan is not spinning, only twitching.


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Re: wireless internet on G3 Ruby iMac

[Jane, (Portland, OR)]

On Nov 22, 4:01 pm, cocc...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 11/22/09 6:44:03 PM, janespra...@comcast.net writes:
>
> > Is it possible to connect to the internet wirelessly with an old G3 iMac?
> > If so, how do you do it?
>
> > At present, I think using an Ethernet cord is the only way. But I am
> > hoping that I am wrong.
>
> There are three ways:
>
> 1) if you have the Slot-loading Imac G3, as mentioned previously, you can
> obtain an 802.11b Airport card and an adapter board for it... they are
> regularily on Ebay.
>
> 2) if you have the tray-load Imac G3, it cannot accept the Airport card,
> but it can use a 802-11g USB wirelsss adapter.   My daughters each have one
> with their iMacs; one is a Belkin and the other is a AirExtreme.   There are
> several makes I believe...
>
> 3) if you happen to either have already, or can get one easier, a wireless
> ethernet bridge also has to be included.   It's a stand-alone device that
> connects to the iMac via the ethernet port, and allows it to send/receive
> wirelessly.
>
> Craig W.

The Ruby G3 iMac is a slot loading, 400 mHz, built in the summer of
2000.

What is a wireless ethernet bridge?

Jane

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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Dan wrote:

>>
>> Is this a bad PS or what? I've not got a lot of experience with this
>> particular model..this is the one with the weird-a** power supply,
>> too, right?
>
> That storage area - was it damp at all?  If the former, I'm thinking
> maybe the system dried out a bit and that's why it went form doornail
> to trying.

nah, it was a corner of his office here.

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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 25-11-2009 16:56, Bruce Johnson, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu, wrote:

> Does anyone know what the QS equivalent of this page is:
> 
> 
> 
> I cannot find anything like this on Apple's site.

Bruce, you will find the answer in my e-mail to you OffList.

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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[Christopher Icha]

the 733's must be more prone to the bad power supply methinks.  I  
have a 800mhz which is still fine.


On Nov 25, 2009, at 04:30 pm, J.M.P.Hissel wrote:

> On 25-11-2009 17:16, J.M.P.Hissel, jo...@xs4all.nl, wrote:
>
>> I have had around 12 Quicksilvers and still 2 in use. Only had a  
>> bad power
>> supply.
>
> Sorry must be: Only  ONE had a bad power supply.
>
> Jo Hissel
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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 25-11-2009 17:16, J.M.P.Hissel, jo...@xs4all.nl, wrote:

> I have had around 12 Quicksilvers and still 2 in use. Only had a bad power
> supply.

Sorry must be: Only  ONE had a bad power supply.

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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[Dan]

At 8:38 AM -0700 11/25/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>A professor dug his old quicksilver (M8493) out of storage (been there 
>about 6 months) and it wouldn't start at all. Pressed the power 
>button, it flashed, then went off. Fans didn't even start up. It had 
>been running fine when it was put away.
>
>I suspected the PRAM battery, so we replaced to to no avail.
>
>I took the battery out, pressed the CUDA switch, and left it over night.
>
>Came in this morning, plugged the battery back in, pressed the CUDA 
>switch once, turned it on. Now it bongs, the fans rev up, then it 
>shuts down again.
>
>Is this a bad PS or what? I've not got a lot of experience with this 
>particular model..this is the one with the weird-a** power supply,
>too, right?

That storage area - was it damp at all?  If the former, I'm thinking 
maybe the system dried out a bit and that's why it went form doornail 
to trying.

Try blowing out the crud, cleaning the battery socket, then 
re-seating the power connectors...

(that's how I got a DA working last week; same general symptoms)

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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[Dan]

At 10:13 AM -0600 11/25/2009, Kris Tilford wrote:
>On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>  > Does anyone know what the QS equivalent of this page is:
>  > 
>
>No, but I recall seeing that the Gigabit Ethernet power supply can be 
>dropped into a Quicksilver without modification, so that means the pin-
>out should be identical I believe?

The GigE and DA are compatible, not the QS.

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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[Christopher Icha]

YEP!  sounds like the dodgy QS power supply problem.

I have one those 733mhz "doorstops" in my office.

:0(


On Nov 25, 2009, at 03:38 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> A professor dug his old quicksilver (M8493) out of storage (been there
> about 6 months) and it wouldn't start at all. Pressed the power
> button, it flashed, then went off. Fans didn't even start up. It had
> been running fine when it was put away.
>
> I suspected the PRAM battery, so we replaced to to no avail.
>
> I took the battery out, pressed the CUDA switch, and left it over  
> night.
>
> Came in this morning, plugged the battery back in, pressed the CUDA
> switch once, turned it on. Now it bongs, the fans rev up, then it
> shuts down again.
>
> Is this a bad PS or what? I've not got a lot of experience with this
> particular model..this is the one with the weird-a** power supply,
> too, right?
>
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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 25-11-2009 16:38, Bruce Johnson, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu, wrote:

> A professor dug his old quicksilver (M8493) out of storage (been there
> about 6 months) and it wouldn't start at all. Pressed the power
> button, it flashed, then went off. Fans didn't even start up. It had
> been running fine when it was put away.
> 
> I suspected the PRAM battery, so we replaced to to no avail.
> 
> I took the battery out, pressed the CUDA switch, and left it over night.
> 
> Came in this morning, plugged the battery back in, pressed the CUDA
> switch once, turned it on. Now it bongs, the fans rev up, then it
> shuts down again.

Did you also unplug it from the wall?
 
> Is this a bad PS or what? I've not got a lot of experience with this
> particular model..this is the one with the weird-a** power supply,
> too, right?

I have had around 12 Quicksilvers and still 2 in use. Only had a bad power
supply.
Anyways see my e-mail to you privatly/OffList because of an attachment.

Jo Hissel



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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[Kris Tilford]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> Does anyone know what the QS equivalent of this page is:
>
> 

No, but I recall seeing that the Gigabit Ethernet power supply can be  
dropped into a Quicksilver without modification, so that means the pin- 
out should be identical I believe?

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Re: Quicksilver problems...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> Came in this morning, plugged the battery back in, pressed the CUDA
> switch once, turned it on. Now it bongs, the fans rev up, then it
> shuts down again.
>
> Is this a bad PS or what? I've not got a lot of experience with this
> particular model..this is the one with the weird-a** power supply,
> too, right?

Does anyone know what the QS equivalent of this page is:



I cannot find anything like this on Apple's site.


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Quicksilver problems...

[Bruce Johnson]

A professor dug his old quicksilver (M8493) out of storage (been there  
about 6 months) and it wouldn't start at all. Pressed the power  
button, it flashed, then went off. Fans didn't even start up. It had  
been running fine when it was put away.

I suspected the PRAM battery, so we replaced to to no avail.

I took the battery out, pressed the CUDA switch, and left it over night.

Came in this morning, plugged the battery back in, pressed the CUDA  
switch once, turned it on. Now it bongs, the fans rev up, then it  
shuts down again.

Is this a bad PS or what? I've not got a lot of experience with this  
particular model..this is the one with the weird-a** power supply,  
too, right?

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Re: Broke the socket on the logic board of iBook g4 1.33mhz last night

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Dwight Hines wrote:

> It is irritating because I got to the airport/blue card that was
> causing the kernel panics and got it out and then noticed that I had
> pulled the socket right off the board when unhooking it.
>
> So, from just a few minutes surfing, it appears people want megabucks
> for working logic boards, even if the  boards are used.
>
> Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion (other than soldering which
> want work because of the way all four zillion pins broke at the board
> surface)?

Just a suggestion: sucks to be you! :-/

Doing without the airport card, resoldering the socket or getting a  
new logic board are the only solutions here.

Now, unless you're Shrek, and approach electronics disassembly with a  
crowbar and a hammer, it's likely that the socket was already  
compromised, and that may actually have been the source of the KP's;  
it shouldn't have come off the logic board that easily.

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Re: Broke the socket on the logic board of iBook g4 1.33mhz last night

[Dan]

At 9:26 AM -0500 11/25/2009, Dwight Hines wrote:
>It is irritating because I got to the airport/blue card that was
>causing the kernel panics and got it out and then noticed that I had
>pulled the socket right off the board when unhooking it.
>
>So, from just a few minutes surfing, it appears people want megabucks
>for working logic boards, even if the  boards are used.
>
>Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion (other than soldering which
>want work because of the way all four zillion pins broke at the board
>surface)?

If the pins are broken off the socket, then the socket must be 
replaced.  No soldering repair will ever make it run properly at the 
speeds it needs.

If the pins are lodged in the PCB then they have to painstakingly 
removed, with a soldering iron and a pin (push tool), one or a few at 
a time.  ug.  Lotta work.

An iBook G4 is such a nice machine.  I'd set it aside for now; take 
your time.  Keep your eye out for a reasonably priced replacement 
motherboard or a whole machine broken for some other reason, so you 
can do transplant surgery.  Craigslist, eBay, LEM Swap, etc.

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Re: Broke the socket on the logic board of iBook g4 1.33mhz last night

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Dwight Hines wrote:

> It is irritating because I got to the airport/blue card that was
> causing the kernel panics and got it out and then noticed that I had
> pulled the socket right off the board when unhooking it.
>
> So, from just a few minutes surfing, it appears people want megabucks
> for working logic boards, even if the  boards are used.
>
> Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion (other than soldering which
> want work because of the way all four zillion pins broke at the board
> surface)?
>
> 


The first place a LEM member looks is the LEM swap list.

Post a WTB or just ask if anyone has one.



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Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

[Dan]

At 6:48 PM -0500 11/24/2009, carter foreman wrote:
>G4 dual 1ghz  1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.11.

Fully updated, Safari 4.0.4 also?
Spotlight indexing enabled?

>Lately i have been having an issue with the widgets taking way too 
>much cpu time.
>So i turned them off.

Dashboard can be problematic.  It always runs, using both memory and 
cpu resources.  Once a widget is loaded, it's always running too.

Try temporarily disabling Dashboard altogether using a tool like OnyX.

>Safari keeps quiting and it takes way too much CPU time too.
>Apps quit too frequently and memory seems to be leaking.

Any kernel panics (whole OS crashes)?

What does Activity Monitor say are the top cpu pigs?

What do the app crash logs say?   (If you don't know how to read 
them, please take a bunch, zip 'em up and email them to me directly. 
I'll take a quick look.   Please DO NOT post them into the group).

In Safari, do you have the page previews enabled?  do you have 
fraudulent site checking enabled?  Those two "features" greatly slow 
Safari and make it chew a LOT of cpu time.

>Right now i am running MAIL and Activity Monitor and that is all, 
>aside from Finder.
>I have 16.36MB Free memory and 917 MB active 461MB inactive, 140MB wired
>
>How is this possible?

You gots something else running.

Try disabling Dashboard then re-check.

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Broke the socket on the logic board of iBook g4 1.33mhz last night

[Dwight Hines]

It is irritating because I got to the airport/blue card that was
causing the kernel panics and got it out and then noticed that I had
pulled the socket right off the board when unhooking it.

So, from just a few minutes surfing, it appears people want megabucks
for working logic boards, even if the  boards are used.

Does anyone have a hack or a suggestion (other than soldering which
want work because of the way all four zillion pins broke at the board
surface)?

Dwight Hines

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Re: A question never asked? until now...

[Nestamicky]

On 11/22/09 4:41 PM, Glen McKnight wrote:
> I use mine fairly regularly, I use it to connect to others machines and
> show them various things or watch them and tell them where they are
> going wrong, and of course I talk to my family and friends.
Glen...how do you do this? I thought the camera only output video from 
your machine, but to see others' machine?

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Re: Dual Boot into Linux, OSX

[Vic]

On Nov 24, 9:49 pm, Clark Martin  wrote:
> Nestamicky wrote:
> > On 11/23/09 2:38 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
> >> I have Fedora on a separate partition on my G4.
> > Would you guys care to say which G4 you have. I'm ready to tryout a
> > Linux on my Sawtooth, cuz I'm sick and tired of how 'old' present day
> > apps, especially simple things like internet apps; web 2.0, etc, have
> > made this machine useless by slowing it down.
>
> I have it on an 800 MHz SP QuickSilver.  I don't think going to Linux is
> going to help.  My feel is that both Debian and Fedora run slower than
> OS X Tiger.
>
Try installing a lightweight window manager, like lxde or xfce.
Graphic overhead will be minimized, yielding snappier performance.
V Mabus

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