Re: Best OS for MDD
Part of the answer is going to depend upon what you want this machine to do. What program or programs do you want or need to run on it? Will this be set in network with other CPUs or will this be a solo operating machine? While OS 9.2.2 may run fastest and use the least amount of ram, if you can't run the program(s) you need to, or can't network with other computers when using it then it doesn't help you out. Finding the balance between the needs and capabilities with speed and compatibilities is the trick. From: Jonas Ulrich To: g3-5-list Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 9:38:07 PM Subject: Best OS for MDD Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the following specs: Hardware Overview: Machine Name:Power Mac G4 Machine Model:PowerMac3,6 CPU Type:PowerPC G4 (2.1) Number Of CPUs:2 CPU Speed:1 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU):256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU):2 MB Memory:2 GB Bus Speed:133 MHz Boot ROM Version:4.4.8f2 What would be the fastest/best OS for this? Thanks! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best OS for MDD
Jonas Ulrich wrote: Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the following specs: Hardware Overview: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 Machine Model:PowerMac3,6 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed:1 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:133 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 What would be the fastest/best OS for this? Thanks! -Jonas x.4.11 on my 2 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Best OS for MDD
On 04/04/2010 05:38, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the following specs: Hardware Overview: Machine Name:Power Mac G4 Machine Model: PowerMac3,6 CPU Type:PowerPC G4 (2.1) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed: 1 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 133 MHz Boot ROM Version:4.4.8f2 What would be the fastest/best OS for this? Thanks! -Jonas My G4 1ghz cpu 1.2gb ram runs sweet on Tiger .. Steve -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Best OS for MDD
On Apr 3, 10:38 pm, Jonas Ulrich wrote: > Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the > following specs: > > Hardware Overview: > > Machine Name: Power Mac G4 > Machine Model: PowerMac3,6 > CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1) > Number Of CPUs: 2 > CPU Speed: 1 GHz > L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB > L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB > Memory: 2 GB > Bus Speed: 133 MHz > Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 > > What would be the fastest/best OS for this? > > Thanks! > -Jonas Tiger is the cat for that Mac. V Mabus -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Best OS for MDD
On Apr 4, 2010, at 6:18 AM, Vic wrote: > > > On Apr 3, 10:38 pm, Jonas Ulrich wrote: >> Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the >> following specs: >> >> Hardware Overview: >> >> Machine Name: Power Mac G4 >> Machine Model:PowerMac3,6 >> CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1) >> Number Of CPUs: 2 >> CPU Speed:1 GHz >> L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB >> L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB >> Memory: 2 GB >> Bus Speed:133 MHz >> Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 >> >> What would be the fastest/best OS for this? What do you have for a display? Which video card? !0.5.8 has spaces that work real nice also the DVD player is better than Tiger. But all in all I think Tiger rocks on any PPC. But That's just me. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP 26 kids all named Mac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Bus speeds
Hi All I have a G4 MDD Dual 1.25 the Bus speeds are 100, 66 and 33 if iI put a 133 card in it will the machine run any faster or is it not worth it? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Bus speeds
On 4/4/10 8:26 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G4 MDD Dual 1.25 the Bus speeds are 100, 66 and 33 if iI put a 133 card in it will the machine run any faster or is it not worth it? What kind of card? If you mean a PCI card to which you'd attach HDs, then I think---I may be wrong---whatever is attached on the card will run at 133. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Bus speeds
--- On Sun, 4/4/10, John Carmonne wrote: > I have a G4 MDD Dual 1.25 the Bus speeds are 100, 66 and 33 > if I put a 133 card in it will the machine run any faster > or is it not worth it? http://support.apple.com/kb/SP63 says that you have a bus speed of 167MHz (really just memory/cpu speed), an ATA/100 disk interface and four 64-bit 33MHz pci slots. I'm going to assume that you are concerned about using a ATA/133 pci disk interface card. If it's a 32bit (short) card it's only going to run at 33MHz. That means it may sustain a maximum throughput of 133Mbits, and just keep up with a ATA133 interface. If it's a 64bit (long) card then it will do double that so no problem (64bit cards are always going to get the best out of the G4's 64bit slots). You must have an ATA133 speced hard drive to make this improvement. PATA drives are getting rare and ATA133 even rarer. The speed improvement would be very marginal, and I would recommend looking for a 64-bit wide SATA interface instead, which would mean you can use a modern SATA drive with a big cache and a fast rotational speed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Installing a MDD processor in a Quicksilver Power Mac
O hai. I've got a 733MHz Quicksilver Power Mac G4, the 2001 edition. Can I install a dual 1.25GHz processor from a Mirror Drive Door G4 along with the heatsink from said MDD? Will the heatsink fit in the case? I've found a pretty good deal on a processor card, and I want to know if it will be a waste of money or not. — David -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Bus speeds
> > PATA drives are getting rare and ATA133 even rarer. The speed improvement > would be very marginal, and I would recommend looking for a 64-bit wide SATA > interface instead, which would mean you can use a modern SATA drive with a > big cache and a fast rotational speed. My MDD has four hard drive bays so can one SeriTek/1V4 PCI-X Serial ATA controller with four internal SATA connectors do the job? Does all the power come off one Molex connector? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Installing a MDD processor in a Quicksilver Power Mac
On Apr 4, 2010, at 11:02 AM, David Kendal wrote: O hai. I've got a 733MHz Quicksilver Power Mac G4, the 2001 edition. Can I install a dual 1.25GHz processor from a Mirror Drive Door G4 along with the heatsink from said MDD? Will the heatsink fit in the case? I've found a pretty good deal on a processor card, and I want to know if it will be a waste of money or not. — David Sorry, MDD processors will not fit in a QS or earlier, that is why it is a good deal. Your best stock Apple would be a dual 1GHz from another QS. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: > >> >>> >> I'm still in Tiger land (10.4.11). I used to have this 2496 card in an >> older Quicksilver with the same quirky KaPows (kernel panics). M-Audio >> hasn't updated their drivers in a long time, I'm not surprised that they >> would have incorrect permissions in Leopard (10.5). I had recently done a >> clean install on my G5 after hard drive failure, with no change in KP >> behavior - even on a brand new OS install with the most recent drivers. >> >> My solution? I'm going to an external digital audio solution and dumping >> the 2496. I sometimes need portable audio and XLR connections. >> Unfortunately, USB seems to rule the roost - I would really prefer firewire >> and something like the Edirol FA-66, but unfortunately they are hard to >> find. I'm looking at the Mbox 2. They seem to be getting really good reviews >> and are well supported in the Mac universe. Only problem, they come with Pro >> Tools, which is an (Arg!) M-Audio product! Garage Band here I come ;-) >> >> Stephen >> > > Hi Stephen (and others on the list) > > If you read the other thread "Re: Kernal Panics, Was ...", you'll see the > trouble I just had ... seem to be back up ... til the next kp ... > > I'm doing some VHS to DV conversion, and I read along the way that USB > wasn't as good as FW when it comes to real time transfer of data ... USB is > in bursts and FW is more continuous (as I understand it). > > Not sure how this applies to audio ... if you're just transferring recorded > data it might be ok ... if you're digitizing audio, its not, as I see it. > But if you're going from today's devices to the Mac, you're already > digitized ... > > May have nothing to do with your application ... I had wanted to merge my > Yamaha motif es8 keyboard output, with Sibelius playback, and possibly mix > in my horn recording at a later date. Trying to do this in real time ... > using Sibelius / Keyboard as my accompanist. > > All controlled by my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz tied together by a Mackie > 1402 VLZPro mixer ... > > Wonder if there's a way we could fix those access / permissions and such? > > > I had an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 in my Mac for a long time. In my 800MHz Quicksilver 2002 under older versions of Tiger it worked pretty well. However, when I got a dual G5 I began having many issues. From what I can tell, the old M-Audio driver really did not like dual CPUs. I eventually moved it to a Hackintosh where, against all reason, it worked flawlessly with a driver whipped up by an amateur hacker. M-Audio does have some new Leopard drivers available that I haven't tried yet, but I wouldn't expect much. For my G5, I eventually went with a PCI card that added a PCMCIA slot to the G5, and plugged in an Echo Indigo IO. It was a bear to set up, but once up was rock solid - and sounded great too. Note that I am not a musician nor a sound engineer, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Bus speeds
On 4/4/10 7:35 AM, John Carmonne wrote: PATA drives are getting rare and ATA133 even rarer. The speed improvement would be very marginal, and I would recommend looking for a 64-bit wide SATA interface instead, which would mean you can use a modern SATA drive with a big cache and a fast rotational speed. My MDD has four hard drive bays so can one SeriTek/1V4 PCI-X Serial ATA controller with four internal SATA connectors do the job? Does all the power come off one Molex connector? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP I had an 867 Quicksilver that had 4 drives with a SeriTek card. It also had a dual 1.6 GHz upgrade. It ran really hot, but it ran. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot
On 4/4/10 10:30 AM, Eric Volker wrote: On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Bill Connellywrote: On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: I'm still in Tiger land (10.4.11). I used to have this 2496 card in an older Quicksilver with the same quirky KaPows (kernel panics). M-Audio hasn't updated their drivers in a long time, I'm not surprised that they would have incorrect permissions in Leopard (10.5). I had recently done a clean install on my G5 after hard drive failure, with no change in KP behavior - even on a brand new OS install with the most recent drivers. My solution? I'm going to an external digital audio solution and dumping the 2496. I sometimes need portable audio and XLR connections. Unfortunately, USB seems to rule the roost - I would really prefer firewire and something like the Edirol FA-66, but unfortunately they are hard to find. I'm looking at the Mbox 2. They seem to be getting really good reviews and are well supported in the Mac universe. Only problem, they come with Pro Tools, which is an (Arg!) M-Audio product! Garage Band here I come ;-) Stephen Hi Stephen (and others on the list) If you read the other thread "Re: Kernal Panics, Was ...", you'll see the trouble I just had ... seem to be back up ... til the next kp ... I'm doing some VHS to DV conversion, and I read along the way that USB wasn't as good as FW when it comes to real time transfer of data ... USB is in bursts and FW is more continuous (as I understand it). Not sure how this applies to audio ... if you're just transferring recorded data it might be ok ... if you're digitizing audio, its not, as I see it. But if you're going from today's devices to the Mac, you're already digitized ... May have nothing to do with your application ... I had wanted to merge my Yamaha motif es8 keyboard output, with Sibelius playback, and possibly mix in my horn recording at a later date. Trying to do this in real time ... using Sibelius / Keyboard as my accompanist. All controlled by my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz tied together by a Mackie 1402 VLZPro mixer ... Wonder if there's a way we could fix those access / permissions and such? I had an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 in my Mac for a long time. In my 800MHz Quicksilver 2002 under older versions of Tiger it worked pretty well. However, when I got a dual G5 I began having many issues. From what I can tell, the old M-Audio driver really did not like dual CPUs. I eventually moved it to a Hackintosh where, against all reason, it worked flawlessly with a driver whipped up by an amateur hacker. M-Audio does have some new Leopard drivers available that I haven't tried yet, but I wouldn't expect much. For my G5, I eventually went with a PCI card that added a PCMCIA slot to the G5, and plugged in an Echo Indigo IO. It was a bear to set up, but once up was rock solid - and sounded great too. Note that I am not a musician nor a sound engineer, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Eric Aha! The dual processor is probably the issue. My old Quicksilver had a dual CPU upgrade. I just ordered a USB M-Box 2 as a replacement since my next Mac will probably be an Intel iMac, and I'll use it sometimes with my wife's MacBook. It will be interesting to see how it behaves with the dual G5. Maybe I'll keep the 2496 and get a hackintosh! Do you have a link to the "amateur" driver? It's probably more professional than what the amateurs at M-Audio put out. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot
On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: On 4/4/10 10:30 AM, Eric Volker wrote: Aha! The dual processor is probably the issue. My old Quicksilver had a dual CPU upgrade. I just ordered a USB M-Box 2 as a replacement since my next Mac will probably be an Intel iMac, and I'll use it sometimes with my wife's MacBook. It will be interesting to see how it behaves with the dual G5. Maybe I'll keep the 2496 and get a hackintosh! Do you have a link to the "amateur" driver? It's probably more professional than what the amateurs at M-Audio put out. Stephen Wonder if that is part of the problem. It always looked like I got an error message about one of the CPUs not getting addressed / data correctly, as part of the kp dump. The driver Eric was talking about is for the Revolution 7.1 ... probably not the same as for the M-Audio 2496? It appears to be about a year older than the last M-Audio driver for the 2496. Still interested in contacting that driver hacker ... let me know if his link comes through! Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot
Oh ... I saw Kris Tilford say this in another post ... it reminded me another possible fix after an upgrade: Do a Safe Boot, and then a Restart: What Is: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1564 How To: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455 Wish I remembered that this last time ... I had a blinking mouse and pulsing blue screen ... some kind of cycle that said something about "501" couldn't be contacted ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Apple update
> > I have a dual 2.7 and it is 10.5.8 My RipIT is 1.4.1 and still no cigar. The > MBP is 10.6.3 and same issue. If I go back to before the update it works. I'm > now going to make a CCC and reinstall the update again. But strange it would > be on two different platforms. I just did the Safe boot and then restart like Kris wrote about and it took care of my MBP 10.6.3 but the PM G5 10.5.8 even after a reinstall of the Security update 2010-002 and the Safe Boot RipIT still fails, so I'll go back to my CCC and run that till somebody fixes this. I had this problem recently with Mac DVD Ripper Pro and the developer sent out a fix for PPC 10.5.8. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Best OS for MDD
Jonas Ulrich Apr 03 09:38PM -0700 ^ Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the following specs: Hardware Overview: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 Machine Model: PowerMac3,6 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed: 1 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 133 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 What would be the fastest/best OS for this? Tiger latest. -- dorayme -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Best OS for MDD
On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:38 PM, dorayme wrote: What would be the fastest/best OS for this? Tiger latest. Why does everyone want him to run a nearly obsolete OS on his Mac? A dual 1Ghz system will run 10.5 perfectly well. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Best OS for MDD
On 4 Apr 2010, at 17:02:41 PDT, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:38 PM, dorayme wrote: What would be the fastest/best OS for this? Tiger latest. Why does everyone want him to run a nearly obsolete OS on his Mac? A dual 1Ghz system will run 10.5 perfectly well. --- Well, I use Classic or OS9 once in a while. I don't believe 10.5 supports Classic. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Best OS for MDD
Why not just use Leopard? It would work even better. Peter M. Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: dorayme Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:38:51 To: Subject: Re: Best OS for MDD > Jonas Ulrich Apr 03 09:38PM -0700 ^ > > Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the > following specs: > > Hardware Overview: > > Machine Name: Power Mac G4 > Machine Model:PowerMac3,6 > CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1) > Number Of CPUs: 2 > CPU Speed:1 GHz > L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB > L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB > Memory: 2 GB > Bus Speed:133 MHz > Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 > > What would be the fastest/best OS for this? Tiger latest. -- dorayme -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple update
On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:36 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a dual 2.7 and it is 10.5.8 My RipIT is 1.4.1 and still no cigar. The MBP is 10.6.3 and same issue. If I go back to before the update it works. I'm now going to make a CCC and reinstall the update again. But strange it would be on two different platforms. I just did the Safe boot and then restart like Kris wrote about and it took care of my MBP 10.6.3 but the PM G5 10.5.8 even after a reinstall of the Security update 2010-002 and the Safe Boot RipIT still fails, so I'll go back to my CCC and run that till somebody fixes this. I had this problem recently with Mac DVD Ripper Pro and the developer sent out a fix for PPC 10.5.8. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP Would re-installing the DVD software apps fix it? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Apple update
>> >> I just did the Safe boot and then restart like Kris wrote about and it took >> care of my MBP 10.6.3 but the PM G5 10.5.8 even after a reinstall of the >> Security update 2010-002 and the Safe Boot RipIT still fails, so I'll go >> back to my CCC and run that till somebody fixes this. I had this problem >> recently with Mac DVD Ripper Pro and the developer sent out a fix for PPC >> 10.5.8. >> > Would re-installing the DVD software apps fix it? > I've done that too. I think the problem is an issue with Leopard on PPC, I had the same deal earlier this year with MDRP on 10.5.8 on the G5 and G4 PMs. Also I probably don't even need whatever is on the 2010-002 update. Thank goodness for CCCs:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: Apple update
>>> >> Would re-installing the DVD software apps fix it? Thanks I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and reinstalled the 2010-002 update again also reinstalled the RipIT application and now it's working. The reason for running drive Genius was because CCC said I had a minor error on the transfer and the log stated an apple.finder error so disk utility couldn't fix that. After Drive genius fixed it I went all through the installs again at all's well now. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best OS for MDD
Hello, I upgraded my QuickSilver to a Newer Technology dual 1.73 GHz PowerPC G4 and have little problem beyond a protection violation once in a while; but, that is neither here nor there. MacOS 10.5 does not support classic, so I have MacOS 10.5.8 on one drive and MacOS 10.4.11 w/ OS 9.2 on another. The system normally boots into 10.5. If I wish to use 10.4 w/ Classic, I just hold down the option key when booting. On Apr 4, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 4 Apr 2010, at 17:02:41 PDT, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:38 PM, dorayme wrote: What would be the fastest/best OS for this? Tiger latest. Why does everyone want him to run a nearly obsolete OS on his Mac? A dual 1Ghz system will run 10.5 perfectly well. --- Well, I use Classic or OS9 once in a while. I don't believe 10.5 supports Classic. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. Frank J. R. Hanstick tro...@comcast.net -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list