G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
I just upgraded my PowerMac G5 1.8GHz tower (2003) from 1GB RAM to 5GB RAM, today. I was hoping that with more memory that the would process video better. I am running Leopard on the thing, 10.5.8, and iMovie still plays back video I take on my iSight attached to that Mac with scant tracking of audio and video. I thought adding the RAM would increase the speed with which it can process video. If it doesn't, and this is normal, at what speed did G5s tackle video properly? This is goofy. I mean, it's only an iSight video. We're not talking about high-quality video here. Even my nano's video shots have a jumpiness to them. So is there any way to get this G5 to process video? (I have a copy of Final Cut Express, but couldn't get it to load on my G5. Don't know why. Some software discs just get rejected by the CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive. Don't know why.) I really would like to use this as a video editing device as well as my MacBook Pro 13, recently purchased. Please advise. Thanks. twv -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
Might be your video card. How recent of an os install is it? -Jonas On 4/7/10, Timo V wirk...@gmail.com wrote: I just upgraded my PowerMac G5 1.8GHz tower (2003) from 1GB RAM to 5GB RAM, today. I was hoping that with more memory that the would process video better. I am running Leopard on the thing, 10.5.8, and iMovie still plays back video I take on my iSight attached to that Mac with scant tracking of audio and video. I thought adding the RAM would increase the speed with which it can process video. If it doesn't, and this is normal, at what speed did G5s tackle video properly? This is goofy. I mean, it's only an iSight video. We're not talking about high-quality video here. Even my nano's video shots have a jumpiness to them. So is there any way to get this G5 to process video? (I have a copy of Final Cut Express, but couldn't get it to load on my G5. Don't know why. Some software discs just get rejected by the CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive. Don't know why.) I really would like to use this as a video editing device as well as my MacBook Pro 13, recently purchased. Please advise. Thanks. twv -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
You also don't say if it's a single or dual processor. On Apr 8, 2:27 am, Timo V wirk...@gmail.com wrote: I just upgraded my PowerMac G5 1.8GHz tower (2003) from 1GB RAM to 5GB RAM, today. I was hoping that with more memory that the would process video better. I am running Leopard on the thing, 10.5.8, and iMovie still plays back video I take on my iSight attached to that Mac with scant tracking of audio and video. I thought adding the RAM would increase the speed with which it can process video. If it doesn't, and this is normal, at what speed did G5s tackle video properly? This is goofy. I mean, it's only an iSight video. We're not talking about high-quality video here. Even my nano's video shots have a jumpiness to them. So is there any way to get this G5 to process video? (I have a copy of Final Cut Express, but couldn't get it to load on my G5. Don't know why. Some software discs just get rejected by the CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive. Don't know why.) I really would like to use this as a video editing device as well as my MacBook Pro 13, recently purchased. Please advise. Thanks. twv -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
To tell you one thing, Mac OS X leopard is really heavy on PPC computer video cards if they are under 64MB VRAM, more or less the video performance wouldn't be expected to be normal considering the fact that the video card you have is original to your machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Best OS for MDD
It does SEEM like a waste of HDD space, but i forgot to mention, ann of those 4 Os's only take up 26.9GB of my 750GB EIDE HDD. So, pleny of room there. I put all of those Os's there becuase i enjoy moving back and fourth between different systems for different reasons. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Ext 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4
Ext Seagate 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4 1. There is a limit on hds, something like 180 Mb, but does this apply to External USB drives? Shows on dt as 500 ok. 2. What if partitioned into 5 100Gbs, will we be able to access each one? 3. Can we start up from External USB drive as in OS9, OS10,2, 3, 4, 5? Is there any difference in the OS and start up? 4. Was intending to put OS9 in partition 1, OS10.2 in partition 2, and so on. Any good or bad ideas on this? JML -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Power Crunch ?
Hello all, Moore's law seems to work in reverse,,, the more HD space I add, the more space I need for backup. I've just received my new Western Digital 2 tb Green drive and am impressed with it's size and weight and not just a little concerned about overtaxing my legacy machine's power supply. I also plan to upgrade my AGP OEM video card as I took a minor performance hit with the 22 Dell monitor. Will I be OK as far as the OEM power supply goes, and if not, would removing the 2 ATA drives help? Seems like just yesterday when I thought I would never need more space than those 2 combined. Any thoughts appreciated as well as ideas on partitioning schemes. The 1 Tb SATA is my boot drive and has only 1 partition, which I've regretted occasionally. Thanks, -- Frank Dutra running behind his: G4 Mac 450 Mhz Dual Processor Gigabit Ethernet booting to Tiger 10.4.11 OEM 30 GB ATA HD plus additional internal 40 GB IBM ATA HD, various USB devices 2 - external 250 gb ATA FireWire drives in OWC Oxford IDE devices 1 Tb Hitachi 7200 rpm SATA drive off a 2 port internal SeriTek152 PCI card Pioneer 106 (A06) DVD-R/CD-RW, driver patched for OS 9 running in Classic 2 gb ram, 22 Dell Monitor, Adaptec OEM SCSI PCI, Motorola wireless PCI -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Ext 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4
On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Ext Seagate 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4 1. There is a limit on hds, something like 180 Mb, but does this apply to External USB drives? Shows on dt as 500 ok. No limit. 2. What if partitioned into 5 100Gbs, will we be able to access each one? Yes but why? 3. Can we start up from External USB drive as in OS9, OS10,2, 3, 4, 5? Is there any difference in the OS and start up? No, No, No, Maybe-ish, 10.5 won't run on that machine without serious hacking.. I think later versions of OS X may have enabled USB booting for some Macs that didn't in earlier versiosn but it's all USB1.1, which is so slow as to be unusable for booting anyway. 4. Was intending to put OS9 in partition 1, OS10.2 in partition 2, and so on. Any good or bad ideas on this? Whatever for? just go with OS 9 and the latest version of OS X it'll run (which is 10.4) There is no good reason to run an older version of OS X on a Mac. I haven't run into ANY software, for instance, that ONLY runs in 10.2 that hasn[t been updated or isn't superceded by later versions of the OS. No need to partition it off, either. OS 9 and OS X can happily coexist on the same partition (just remember to check the OS 9 drivers box when reformatting the disk, which you're going to have to do, by default they come with FAT or no drive formatting at all. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Ext 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Ext Seagate 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4 1. There is a limit on hds, something like 180 Mb, but does this apply to External USB drives? Shows on dt as 500 ok. I sincerely doubt, if there even is a limit, that it's in megabits. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Power Crunch ?
On Apr 8, 12:25 pm, Frank Dutra fdut...@gmail.com wrote: I've just received my new Western Digital 2 tb Green drive and am impressed with it's size and weight and not just a little concerned about overtaxing my legacy machine's power supply. I also plan to upgrade my AGP OEM video card as I took a minor performance hit with the 22 Dell monitor. Will I be OK as far as the OEM power supply goes, and if not, would removing the 2 ATA drives help? I would remove the 2 ATA drives to reduce heat (your PSU can probably handle 4 internal drives). Consider 2 partitions on the new drive, one for a bootable cloned system and a larger one for backups, data, etc. If you are no longer using SCSI devices you could pull the old Adeptec card. Be careful with the external firewire drives, if the Mac has to supply them along with several internal drives there might be PSU issues. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Power Crunch ?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Frank Dutra fdut...@gmail.com wrote: Will I be OK as far as the OEM power supply goes, and if not, would removing the 2 ATA drives help? How many drives do you have? I'm only counting four. OEM 30 GB ATA HD plus additional internal 40 GB IBM ATA HD 1 Tb Hitachi 7200 rpm SATA drive off a 2 port internal SeriTek152 PCI card plus the your new Western Digital 2000 GB (I assume the 2 external drives use a separate power supply.) Assuming/overestimating around 15 to 20 watts per drive thats 60 to 80 watts. (Though it's almost certainly less than that). FWIW, you could get a better idea of your actual power needs by shelling out the $20 or so for a Kill-A-Watt and then seeing how much your G4 draws with different combos of the drives connected. What's your power supply rated at? (What does it say on the label?) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Timo V wrote: I just upgraded my PowerMac G5 1.8GHz tower (2003) from 1GB RAM to 5GB RAM, today. I was hoping that with more memory that the would process video better. I am running Leopard on the thing, 10.5.8, and iMovie still plays back video I take on my iSight attached to that Mac with scant tracking of audio and video. This machine should work fine with this. Fer crying out loud an *iMac* works with iSight video and iMovie. Run disk utility to check your disk(s), disk problems will cause issues like this, obviously. Is your hard drive nearly full? Consider installing an additional disk for just video scratch space. I'm doing video work on a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz with FCE4, and am a Newbie of sorts ... moved away from iMovie ... these are suggestions that may apply to your setup in some way. Must say, I envy your system, a bit. Tom Wolski's Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop suggests this for conditioning your system for video work (As best as I can remember): 1. Disconnect form the network (make a location that turns it off, remembering to turn it back on before you Logoff or Shutdown your Mac). Also turn off Appletalk. Don't have any internal devices/ connections available (modem, airport, ethernet). 2. Use a simple background for your Desktop (non-changing) and Switch Off Screen Savers 3. Have a separate (from your OS) hard drive for the video files. Make it an internal one ... USB externals work in bursts of data, and are not good for video capture. FW externals may be ok, not sure. 4. Redirect FCE4 to use the additional drive as a Scratch disk also. 5. Set Software Update to not check for Updates 6. Set your monitor to be displaying Millions of Colors with a minimum of 1024 x 768 7. Energy Saver should be set so the system never goes to Sleep 8. There's something about Exposé and Spaces that suggest changing keyboard shortcuts, but you'll have to get a copy of the book (pg 7) ... too much detail for me here. Make sure your OS partition has enough room for your OS X to breathe ... and I'm not sure how much that is ... using a scratch disk for FCE4 solves much of that for FCE4. iMovie 7 and 8 have a reputation of losing sync between audio and video. I found 5 to work under Tiger, and I hear 6 works fine. I switched to FCE4 recently and bit the bullet on its learning curve (and additional price). here's an Apple Support link showing more references foe help (Izzy's video page): http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2374445tstart=0 Folks on the Pro Video Apple Discussion seem to be really helpful, too ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
Oh ... I think we need to make sure Spotlight doesn't come on or is running when we're trying to do video work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
G4 Quicksilver question
I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9. This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I worked with in this state. Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM. Very stable and surprisingly fast for its age. Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise? I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS software on it. As it sits now it is configured with: 800mhz processor 1.5 gig Ram 40 gig HD DVD Read/Write This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio connections near the top section of the back panel. Any advice welcome! Keith -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: Oh ... I think we need to make sure Spotlight doesn't come on or is running when we're trying to do video work. Another reason to use a scratch disk...you can exclude an entire volume from Spotlight indexing. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
At 11:27 PM -0700 4/7/2010, Timo V wrote: PowerMac G5 1.8GHz 5GB [OS X 10.5.8] I was hoping that with more memory that the would process video better. Did you observe with Activity Monitor that your system was memory poor? Explain please process video better (see below). iMovie still plays back video I take on my iSight attached to that Mac with scant tracking of audio and video. What version of iMovie? Explain please scant tracking. This and the above phrases just don't do much for describing your difficulty. Kindof like saying your car won't go - and pointing us to a possible engine problem, without mentioning that you didn't open your garage door or that you removed the gas tank. I thought adding the RAM would increase the speed with which it can process video. It will, if your set-up was memory poor in the first place. This is goofy. I mean, it's only an iSight video. We're not talking about high-quality video here. Even my nano's video shots have a jumpiness to them. Do the videos play properly in other apps - like QuickTime Player or VLC? What else do you have running on that computer at the same time? See also Bruce's reply. He has some good troubleshooting tips there. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Power Crunch ?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Frank Dutra fdut...@gmail.com wrote: Will I be OK as far as the OEM power supply goes, and if not, would removing the 2 ATA drives help? How many drives do you have? I'm only counting four. OEM 30 GB ATA HD plus additional internal 40 GB IBM ATA HD 1 Tb Hitachi 7200 rpm SATA drive off a 2 port internal SeriTek152 PCI card plus the your new Western Digital 2000 GB (I assume the 2 external drives use a separate power supply.) The grand total would be six, four internal and the 2 external FW drives self powered. Openning up the ATA drive slots/sleds would allow me to mount the 2 SATA drives where apple designed them to be which in theory, may be in a spot with optimal cooling. Rather unlike having them flopping around on top of the super drive I imagine. They account for less than 5 % of the 2 Tb's capacity, so I guess it wouldn't be that big of a loss. Thanks -- Frank Dutra running behind his: G4 Mac 450 Mhz Dual Processor Gigabit Ethernet booting to Tiger 10.4.11 OEM 30 GB ATA HD plus additional internal 40 GB IBM ATA HD, various USB devices 2 - external 250 gb ATA FireWire drives in OWC Oxford IDE devices 1 Tb Hitachi 7200 rpm SATA drive off a 2 port internal SeriTek152 PCI card Pioneer 106 (A06) DVD-R/CD-RW, driver patched for OS 9 running in Classic 2 gb ram, 22 Dell Monitor, Adaptec OEM SCSI PCI, Motorola wireless PCI -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
H. To tell you one thing, Mac OS X leopard is really heavy on PPC computer video cards if they are under 64MB VRAM, more or less the video performance wouldn't be expected to be normal considering the fact that the video card you have is original to your machine. To clarify, after requests for clarification: The G5 is a single processor 1.8GHz PowerMac. The video card has DVI and ADC on it, and I'm running two monitors off it, an Apple ADC acrylic 20 and a ViewSonic DVI 23 monitor. The card is a GEForce FX 5200 with 64MB of VRAM. I'm running the latest version of iMovie available for a G5. Audio and visual were not syncing, and often skipping. Videos on the Web improved with the added memory. Video on iTunes improved but is still frame-by-frame jumpy. I'm afraid I do not know the lingo that would allow me precise communication. All the advice about preparing a Mac for video is, I confess, daunting. Thanks for the info. It sounds like video processing on a G5 is as big a hassle as using Pro Tools on anything. Touchy software, touchy computers. I may simply not do video processing on it. I have an Intel Mac, after all. Oh, well. Unplugging a computer from USB stuff and my LAN seems like a crazy requirement, like a deliberate hobbling. Something out of Harrison Bergeron. But such is the cost of low-end computer use, eh? t -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Power Crunch ?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:13 PM, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: If you are no longer using SCSI devices you could pull the old Adeptec card. I didn't even notice the mention of the Adaptec OEM SCSI PCI until your note made me look for it. I also cannot see why he would keep that installed since it doesn't appear the OP is using it??? Curious. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Printer Woes - What do I trash?
Greetings all. A little assistance would be appreciated. I have an office G5 running 10.5.8; attached via USB is the printer, an HP Laser Jet P1505n. Recently, the printer suddenly decided to NOT print but instead send all requests to an ever-increasing queue list, with no intention of ever printing them (pause-resume-delete items proved fruitless) After deleting this list, I deleted the printer as a default printer and re-loaded it; no go. Re-installing drivers did not help either. I am now at the place where, if I select it as a recognized option for adding it to my personal list of printers in the Print and Fax preference, I get the following error message: An error occurred while trying to add the selected printer. successful-ok-conflicting-attributes I believe I am at the point where I need to throw away *everything* related to the printer, compelling the Mac to completely forget that the printer ever existed, so to speak. What do I throw away? Many thanks for some thought, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Crunch ?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Frank Dutra fdut...@gmail.com wrote: Opening up the ATA drive slots/sleds would allow me to mount the 2 SATA drives where apple designed them to be which in theory, may be in a spot with optimal cooling. In order to remove either or both of your 30 40 GB you would need to be able to boot from your SeriTek152 SATA PCI adapter. My only experience with this is in the PC/BIOS/Windows world and ... at one point at least ... not all SATA PCI adpaters came with the necessary BIOS extensions to allow you to boot from a drive attached to them. I'd be interested to learn how things work in the Mac world. Should be easy enough to try it out and see what happens I suppose. If it turns out you are unable to boot from your SATA PCI adapter, then another possibility is to try out a SATA drive to PATA connector dongle. They seem to cost around $10 at the moment. It also appears they are sold in more of a low profile size now. Below are some links to some resellers who work through Amazon.com. They are very much a China commodity product though so you could find more or less the same thing from other suppliers. I haven't tried them, but think I'm going to just to see how (well) they work for me. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001JQHJSU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002T7W1MM http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00241IT6A FWIW. I think I'm going to take a chance with one of these to see if I can extend the life of some old PATA to USB external enclosures I have. ;-) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Printer Woes - What do I trash?
On Apr 8, 2010, at 1:17 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all. A little assistance would be appreciated. I have an office G5 running 10.5.8; attached via USB is the printer, an HP Laser Jet P1505n. Recently, the printer suddenly decided to NOT print but instead send all requests to an ever-increasing queue list, with no intention of ever printing them (pause-resume-delete items proved fruitless) After deleting this list, I deleted the printer as a default printer and re-loaded it; no go. Re-installing drivers did not help either. I am now at the place where, if I select it as a recognized option for adding it to my personal list of printers in the Print and Fax preference, I get the following error message: An error occurred while trying to add the selected printer. successful-ok-conflicting-attributes I believe I am at the point where I need to throw away *everything* related to the printer, compelling the Mac to completely forget that the printer ever existed, so to speak. What do I throw away? Delete the printer in System Prefs. go to: /Library/Printers/ You probably have a folder named 'hp', go looking for a folder in the laserjet subfolder with that model printer. Trash it with extreme prejudice. Go into the PPDs folder, find the ppd associated with the HP, and delete it. This is one of HP's icky host-based printers, so there might be cruft in /Library/Printers/PPD Plugins folder associated with it, too. This, in theory should completely suppress your computer's memories of that awful printer. (Can you tell I've got a mild dislike of the 1500 series? 8-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver question
On 4/8/10 10:28 AM, Keith Proctor wrote: I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9. This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I worked with in this state. Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM. Very stable and surprisingly fast for its age. Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise? I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS software on it. As it sits now it is configured with: 800mhz processor 1.5 gig Ram 40 gig HD DVD Read/Write This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio connections near the top section of the back panel. Any advice welcome! Keith QuickSilver and Digital Audio are two distinct models of Power Mac G4. QuickSilver have a light gray (silver) front panel. The DA has a dark front panel, same as the Yikes, Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet. If it is a QuickSilver you can upgrade the processor to a dual, at least 1GHz. The memory maxed out already. A video card upgrade is a possiblity. If this is a QS 2002 then you could put in a PATA harddrive as big as you can. The earlier QS was limited to 128Gb. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Power Crunch ?
In order to remove either or both of your 30 40 GB you would need to be able to boot from your SeriTek152 SATA PCI adapter. My only experience with this is in the PC/BIOS/Windows world and ... at one point at least ... not all SATA PCI adpaters came with the necessary BIOS extensions to allow you to boot from a drive attached to them. I'd be interested to learn how things work in the Mac world. Should be easy enough to try it out and see what happens I suppose. John, I have a Seritek 1S2 in my Digital Audio with a 36Gb Raptor and a 250Gb Seagate attached to it. I have OS10.4.11 installed on both and they are both bootable. And as you say not all PCI SATA cards on a Mac can boot from the attached hard drives.This one you can however. Stewie _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Crunch ?
I didn't even notice the mention of the Adaptec OEM SCSI PCI until your note made me look for it. I also cannot see why he would keep that installed since it doesn't appear the OP is using it??? Curious. -irrational john Thanks John, I haven't used it since 2004 when a flash flood wiped out my scanner (this same computer had water creeping up over 4 high from the bottom, but somehow managed to stay pretty dry and never skipped a beat). I was never aware until now that a PCI card would use power without a device attached. Looks like I'll have a few spare parts after I wipe the drives. BTW, I have been booting into Tiger solely from the 1 Tb SATA since I installed it with the SerTek card -- Frank Dutra Nantucket Hydrangea Box 3402 Nantucket MA 02584 mailto: fr...@nantuckethydrangea.com Voice: (508) 228-2649 FAX: (815) 377-2407 http://www.NantucketHydrangea.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Crunch ?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Stewie de Young stewies...@hotmail.com wrote: John, I have a Seritek 1S2 in my Digital Audio with a 36Gb Raptor and a 250Gb Seagate attached to it. I have OS10.4.11 installed on both and they are both bootable. And as you say not all PCI SATA cards on a Mac can boot from the attached hard drives.This one you can however. That sounds like good news for the OP. I believe the OP said he has a SeriTek 152 not a 1S2 ... though perhaps that was a typo?? (I tried a google search of the www.firmtek.com site for Seritek 152 but didn't get any (useful) results). -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
graphics card for Quicksilver 2002
This is what I currently have installed: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX: Chipset Model:GeForce4 MX Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 64 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID:0x0171 Revision ID: 0x00a2 ROM Revision: 1091 Displays: E17LCD2: Resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz Depth:32-Bit Color Core Image: Software Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported Is there a better graphics card? I wanted to play a game that requires 128mb video ram. Mine is only 64, and the game won't run. The other specs are 933mhz processor, 896 mb ram. Running 10.5. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
RE: Power Crunch ?
I believe the OP said he has a SeriTek 152 not a 1S2 ... though perhaps that was a typo?? (I tried a google search of the www.firmtek.com site for Seritek 152 but didn't get any (useful) results). -irrational john Here's the card in question John and yes it was a typo on his part. SeriTek 1S2 http://www.firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-1s2/ Stewie _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
RE: graphics card for Quicksilver 2002
Is there a better graphics card? I wanted to play a game that requires 128mb video ram. Mine is only 64, and the game won't run. The other specs are 933mhz processor, 896 mb ram. Running 10.5. Thanks! The Radeon 9800 series ( 4X AGP ) is probably the best video oomph for your dollar. Check out ebay for flashed PC cards from respectable sellers. A 9800 128mb card is about $90-$100 A 9800 256mb card is about $130-$150 It depends on how much you are willing to pay. Then there are the excellent nvidia cards like the 256mb 6800 GS and GT which start at $220+ Note the original Mac versions of these cards above are nearly double that in price that is why so many Mac users buy ex-PC cards that have been flashed to work on a Mac. Stewie _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G4 Quicksilver question
You correct Clark. It is an early Quicksilver and not a DA. I tried a 250 gig HD but it only saw 128 gig of it. Hated to waste all that drive space so I just used a smaller drive on hand. I will look for a dual processor now and beef this machine up a bit. - Original Message - From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:22 PM Subject: Re: G4 Quicksilver question On 4/8/10 10:28 AM, Keith Proctor wrote: I just revived a dead Quicksilver and returned it to service. Had to replace a logic board. It is currently running OS 10.3.9. This is my first attempt at reviving a dead Mac so bare with my ignorance here. Done many PCs before, but this is the first Mac I worked with in this state. Machine is running beautifully with a 40 gig HD and 1.5 gig of RAM. Very stable and surprisingly fast for its age. Question is, just how far can I take this upgrade wise? I like how this thing runs and would love to put my Adobe CS software on it. As it sits now it is configured with: 800mhz processor 1.5 gig Ram 40 gig HD DVD Read/Write This is the model they call the Digital Audio version with the audio connections near the top section of the back panel. Any advice welcome! Keith QuickSilver and Digital Audio are two distinct models of Power Mac G4. QuickSilver have a light gray (silver) front panel. The DA has a dark front panel, same as the Yikes, Sawtooth and Gigabit Ethernet. If it is a QuickSilver you can upgrade the processor to a dual, at least 1GHz. The memory maxed out already. A video card upgrade is a possiblity. If this is a QS 2002 then you could put in a PATA harddrive as big as you can. The earlier QS was limited to 128Gb. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
On Apr 8, 2010, at 3:48 PM, TVirkkala wrote: I'm running the latest version of iMovie available for a G5. Audio and visual were not syncing, and often skipping. I read somewhere the later versions of iMovie have this problem. iMovie 6 was the last version to perform well, if I remember what I read. You might be able to Google it up, or find it on Apple Support under the iMovie Forum. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Safari taking a long time to load web page after restart.
On Apr 8, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Gus wrote: Updated to safari Version 4.0.5 (4531.22.7) and it started loading right away. I believe the last update addressed the memory leak problem with a new Safari update. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Safari taking a long time to load web page after restart.
I know the latest version addressed the memory leak, but the thing is, I have a G3 iMac with Tiger on it, and I can't install the latest version of safari on it. I guess safari will only come into use on my PM G4 with Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
I once used iMovie 7, and it had such bad performance one time, it wasn't even funny. I plugged in an external HDD to pull sound effects off of, and it lost sync, and it Quit unexpectedly. I rolled back to iMovie 6, and it was alright -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: graphics card for Quicksilver 2002
lol I happen to have a good video card. I can let it go for $50. Company: Nvidia Model: GeForce 6800GT Model series: GeForce 6 Slot: AGP 4x-8x VRAM: 256MB DDR2 MFG. DATE: November 2004 BFG technologies it has dual fans with a metal plate on the front of it. the video card requires a power supply box of at least 240w. It requires a power plug like the ones used on cd/dvd drives and hard drives. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Ext 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4
look you guys, if you want leopard to run on a G4 processor slower than 867Mhz, you don't need some serious hacking... lol who would hack just to install leopard. Just download LeopardAssist. It basically allows leopard to install by giving your system fake info ma,king it think that it is 933Mhz or 867Mhz, your choice. This only works on G4 processors, but instead of 512MB of RAM, i would reccomend 1GB to compensate for the slower processor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
On Apr 9, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I once used iMovie 7, and it had such bad performance one time, it wasn't even funny. I plugged in an external HDD to pull sound effects off of, and it lost sync, and it Quit unexpectedly. I rolled back to iMovie 6, and it was alright... I'm not very experienced with iMovie, but I seem to remember reading that iMovie 7 was a downgrade of capability compared to iMovie 6, and that iMovie 6 was the high water mark of iMovie versions for PPC Macs. If this is true, perhaps downgrading as Mark has done would not only solve the problem, but also provide more capability? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Ext 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4
I have successfully booted OS 9 from a USB flash drive before, but here is why i was able to. External USB drives (not flash drives) use their own power supply, and require an OS to be used or seen. Flash drives work as if they were internal drives, but slower. I did install OS 9 to USB, it worked. I did try tiger through on an 8GB flash drive. It worked, but it was SLOW when it came to retrieving system files. Other than that, it works for me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 1.8GHz tower doesn't work w/video well
maybe. But in terms of performance, iMovie 6 was great on my PM G4. iMovie 7 was ok-ish on my PM G4, while iMovie 8 was unworkable with. iMovie 8 is still slow even with a G5 processor. The newer intel processors have some technology that is a key component to newer iMovie programs, so they run faster on them. On the other hand, Intel will never have the power of PowerPC G3, G4 or G5 processors, and especially not AltiVec Velocity engine =). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G4 Quicksilver question
You know what? you could've partitined it! It could only read 128GB of partition space at a time, so why don't you put that 250GBHDD back in there, and put in (2) 125GB partitions. Also, if you want to beef it up, use LeopardAssist to put leopard on it. Leopard requires a G4 processor @ 867Mhz or faster, but 800Mhz is pretty close anyways. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
