Re: I have an idea...

[Mark Sokolovsky]

I mean really, it's not waaay too hard because I know what i'm doing. I know
how hard it is because i developed an OS made from linux, and it took me 3
years to complete. Since Leopard and Snow Leopard files are similar in the
way they work, fusing the codes together shouldn't be that hard. The only
side effect i would have is that i would have an OS that takes up 16GB of
HDD by itself.

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older printer and a G5 iMac

[Lawrence David Eden]

A friend recently gave me a Lexmark X75.  I downloaded the Lexmark 
drivers from their website, but it seems that the X75 is unsupported. 
The G5 can't find a driver...but it does "see" the printer and 
identifies it by name.


Are there any other ways to solve this problem and get the X75 up and 
running on an iMac G5?


Thanks,

Larry

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Re: I have an idea...

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:06 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:


I mean really, it's not waaay too hard because I know what i'm doing.


Great, go for it!

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Re: I have an idea...

[Dennis Myhand]

Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
I mean really, it's not waaay too hard because I know what i'm doing. I 
know how hard it is because i developed an OS made from linux, and it 
took me 3 years to complete. Since Leopard and Snow Leopard files are 
similar in the way they work, fusing the codes together shouldn't be 
that hard. The only side effect i would have is that i would have an OS 
that takes up 16GB of HDD by itself.




If you would reply off-list, what was the OS you developed?  I ask 
because I try to teach my students different OSes.  Thanks, Dennis in 
Victoria


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Re: I have an idea...

[skinnie]

I wonder what benefits would you have?
64bit for the G5's?

On Apr 20, 11:31 am, Dennis Myhand  wrote:
> Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
> > I mean really, it's not waaay too hard because I know what i'm doing. I
> > know how hard it is because i developed an OS made from linux, and it
> > took me 3 years to complete. Since Leopard and Snow Leopard files are
> > similar in the way they work, fusing the codes together shouldn't be
> > that hard. The only side effect i would have is that i would have an OS
> > that takes up 16GB of HDD by itself.
>
> If you would reply off-list, what was the OS you developed?  I ask
> because I try to teach my students different OSes.  Thanks, Dennis in
> Victoria
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Re: older printer and a G5 iMac

[John Carmonne]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:

> A friend recently gave me a Lexmark X75.  I downloaded the Lexmark drivers 
> from their website, but it seems that the X75 is unsupported. The G5 can't 
> find a driver...but it does "see" the printer and identifies it by name.
> 
> Are there any other ways to solve this problem and get the X75 up and running 
> on an iMac G5?
> 
I would download Gutenprint 5 first it almost always works for me without 
trying to find obscure drivers, espesially Lexmark.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: I have an idea...

[John Carmonne]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 4:32 AM, skinnie wrote:

> I wonder what benefits would you have?
> 64bit for the G5's?
> 
If you do it make sure the Disk Utility Restore function works on PPC G5 and 
G4. Apple can't seem to do it, at least on my machines, it must be the water 
around here:-)

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: older printer and a G5 iMac

[John Carmonne]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 4:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote:

> 
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
> 
>> A friend recently gave me a Lexmark X75.  I downloaded the Lexmark drivers 
>> from their website, but it seems that the X75 is unsupported. The G5 can't 
>> find a driver...but it does "see" the printer and identifies it by name.
>> 
>> Are there any other ways to solve this problem and get the X75 up and 
>> running on an iMac G5?
>> 
> I would download Gutenprint 5 first it almost always works for me without 
> trying to find obscure drivers, espesially Lexmark.
> 



FWIW  Try this.

 http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: So what do you think about the iPad?

[Austin Leeds]

Personally, I think the iPad is great (I actually own one). It's not
perfect, but just like my trusty old Pismo, it does what I need it to
do. The best combo for someone who doesn't need the power of a laptop
everywhere they go (seriously, the iPad is designed for travel) would
be iPad+desktop (preferably Mac).
  My theory is, a laptop would serve like a mobile desktop while
traveling: sitting in a hotel room as a sync station for an iPad and
iPhone. The iPad would be the main web and production (dare I use that
term) machine while mobile, supplanted by the iPhone for fast,
reliable communication. So, desktop, laptop, iPad, and iPhone: each
one has a unique role.
  I've actually tried it, too. I use an iPad exclusively while mobile
at college, and I've found very few instances where I need to use a
desktop, and only one purpose for a laptop (a PC laptop running Ubuntu
for MIDI applications). In fact, for reporting and interviewing (I'm
part of my college's newspaper staff), the iPad definitely blows away
laptops.
  In short, use the iPad as you would a clipboard and paper, and use a
desktop or laptop as you would a writing desk.

On Apr 19, 11:26 pm, Richard Gerome 
wrote:
>    Hey Bruce,
>         Cool I will try that, I never installed a new drive before but I did 
> swap them out many times but they were used ones!!! Thanks, I hope that 
> works...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Richard Gerome wrote:
>
> >> Right now I'm trying to put a 60g 7200rpm HD in it so I can run  
> >> Tiger but I can not get the new HD to show up in the install window  
> >> to install Tiger, I returned it for another one and the same thing???
>
> >Did you partition and format the drive when you put it in? MOst hard  
> >drives come either unformatted or formatted as MS-DOS and won't show  
> >in the installer window
>
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After Leopard Assist got loading stuff on screen

[Jonas Lopez]

After Leopard Assist got loading stuff on screen

Dear Listers,

Using Leopard Assist causes the display of the white on black type that you can 
not stop or print or save and appears to replace the graphic form with the OS 
and the progress gage. 

Is this what it is doing and how do you get it to quit?

Does it pose any problem to the system?

JML


  

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Re: After Leopard Assist got loading stuff on screen

[JOHN CARMONNE]

On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote:


After Leopard Assist got loading stuff on screen

Dear Listers,

Using Leopard Assist causes the display of the white on black type  
that you can not stop or print or save and appears to replace the  
graphic form with the OS and the progress gage.


Is this what it is doing and how do you get it to quit?

Does it pose any problem to the system?

JML
If you really just have to put Leopard on a machine under 867MHz then  
the way I do it is to install it via CCC. A lot easier and it works  
out of the box.


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: I have an idea...

[lana]

A few questions from a newbie-Are you saying I could run Snow Leopard on my 
Quicksilver 933 which runs Snow now,if I had your os?It sounds as if it is a 
good idea if Apple doesn't shut you down.

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From: Dennis Myhand 
Subject: Re: I have an idea...
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 2:43 AM


Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
> I perfectly understand that Snow Leopard is not supported at all under the 
> PowerPC architecture, but what if i modified the code in the system? I do see 
> a way that I can take the code from Leopard and put it in snow leopard. Then 
> integrate Rosetta into the system to run the intel programs. It's a longshot, 
> but it just might work. Would that be illegal?
> 

I think what you are thinking of doing is a LOT more work than you ever dreamed 
it would be.  Are you a coder?  Do you have a cross-platform compiler?  Though 
not absolutely necessary, the source development kits (SDKs) would be nice to 
have.  And, if any of the software you are talking about is copyrighted, yes, 
it is very illegal.  Sorry to be the prick that bursts the bubble, but every 
brilliant ideal faces the possibility of being dashed on the cold, hard, 
jagged, rocks of reality.  Peace, Dennis in Victoria

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Re: I have an idea...

[Dan]

At 1:41 AM -0400 4/20/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
I perfectly understand that Snow Leopard is not supported at all 
under the PowerPC architecture, but what if i modified the code in 
the system? I do see a way that I can take the code from Leopard and 
put it in snow leopard. Then integrate Rosetta into the system to 
run the intel programs. It's a longshot, but it just might work.


Not going to happen the way you suggest.

There are major differences under the hood of Leopard and Snow 
Leopard.  A lot of those differences are specialized bits to take 
advantage of the x86/Core architecture features.  So very few of the 
components are interchangeable.


Rosetta won't help you.  It is a *limited* ppc->x86 JIT translator 
that functions in user mode.  No kernel mode.  And it doesn't do g4 
or g5 or altivec instructions, much less x86->ppc.


IF you had the full source code of OS X - Darwin, Aqua, and all the 
other bits (apps too!), then you could do a ppc build.  All that 
would be left then would be to rewrite *all* the x86-only code that 
has been developed - dynamic mode switching (64 to 32 and back), the 
scheduler, kernel extensions, etc. [*]


[ow.  I'm pre-coffee.  Brain cramp.  Send Echo and a few other Dolls 
on a raid of Apple headquarters.  Get into that secure vault where 
The Source is kept and copy the whole fricking thing onto a single 
USB memory stick in 3.2 seconds.  Then escape - with guns blazing!]


It would be much easier to adapt a virtual machine that emulates the 
x86 environment, then boot real Snow Leopard into it.  Of course, 
there would be serious performance issues...  Microsoft's Virtual PC 
product comes to mind (bought from Connectix in 1993, munged to make 
it horrible, then terminated in 1996).  It supported x86 VM 
environments on ppc Macs, into which you could boot DOS, Windows, and 
Linux (Red Hat, I think).


[*]  Apple claims to have had OS X running on an x86 compouter all 
along.  Given L'Jobs deep rooted desire to keep his options open, I'd 
be willing to bet a few billion quatloos that there are currently AMD 
based computers hidden away that are running Snow Leopard.  Ditto for 
PPC based machines.  Perhaps they aren't Macs - perhaps they're just 
modern PowerPC based machines.  heh.  Or perhaps they're POWER or 
CELL based systems...  [Ask Echo to pick up a few of those on her way 
out].



Would that be illegal?


That much hacking into a copyrighted work... yea, that's a full-on 
derivative work - way beyond "fair use".  Serious copyright 
violation.


- Dan.
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capture stream

[JOHN CARMONNE]

Hi All
Can I get an application that will capture streaming video feeds in a  
format that I can use to burn a DVD?



JOHN CARMONNE
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Re: capture stream

[Fabian Fang]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:34 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

Can I get an application that will capture streaming video feeds in  
a format that I can use to burn a DVD?





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Re: I have an idea...

[iJohn]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Mark Sokolovsky  wrote:
> I do see a way that I can take the code from Leopard and put it in snow 
> leopard.
> Then integrate Rosetta into the system to run the intel programs.

So you're thinking you are still going to use a lot of the Leopard
kernel for OS X but run some (??) of the app only (??) parts of Snow
Leopard using Rosetta?

Sounds like a project if you're into that sort of thing.

The memory that comes to mind is of a YouTube video of OS X hacked to
run on a Pentium 3 vintage laptop. The video pretty much just ran for
a few minutes showing a mostly unchanging boot screen. Eventually the
guy shooting it lost patience and just shut it down before the boot
even finished.

Lot's of things of technically possible. Heck, in theory you could run
Snow Leopard on a Turing Machine, no?

> It's a longshot, but it just might work. Would that be illegal?

Good Gravy! What in the world of corporate code is NOT illegal these
days? I expect just looking at an OS X install disc and thinking
inappropriate thoughts is illegal.

A more pertinent question is would anybody care enough to come after
you? There's no way to answer that for certain, of course, but I doubt
it. Not unless you succeeded beyond your wildest expectations AND
widely distributed the result. Even then Apple might not bother if it
turned out there were enough hoops to jump through that it discouraged
all but a small fraction of folks from actually using what you had
hacked together.

Apple ain't Microsoft. They have a different list of things they are
obsessively paranoid about.

-irrational john

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Lost Password

[Papa Bear]

I just perchased a 333 Lombard G3 and it is running Ubuntu. .Problem
is it is password protected and I do not have the password. No CD so
hard to install a different OS and really would liike to keep the
Ubuntu.  Any way around this??  Any and all help appreciated.  Papa
Bear

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Re: After Leopard Assist got loading stuff on screen

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote:


After Leopard Assist got loading stuff on screen

Dear Listers,

Using Leopard Assist causes the display of the white on black type  
that you can not stop or print or save and appears to replace the  
graphic form with the OS and the progress gage.


Is this what it is doing and how do you get it to quit?


What has happened is that the system is set to boot by default in  
'Verbose' mode, which is the same as if you held down the V key while  
booting.


It does no damage whatsoever (I have all mine set to do this by  
default.)


to fix this run (in a Terminal window):

sudo nvram boot-args="-v"

Just like that. It will ask for your password and afterwards, you'll  
be back to the normal boot.


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Re: I have an idea...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

I mean really, it's not waaay too hard because I know what i'm  
doing. I know

how hard it is because i developed an OS made from linux,



Seriously, no you don't know what you are doing, because you wouldn't  
be asking this question if you did.


To use the Standard LEM Car Metaphor, what you did was build a semi- 
custom dune buggy with a VW engine. Now you want to build a F1 racer,  
using assorted parts from a Kenworth semi tractor, a BMW 520-series  
with the diesel engine and a Harley Sportster.


For one Rosetta is a useless lump of bits to a PPC machine. It is a  
PPC to X86 emulator, and only works in that direction. Also, Snow  
Leopard, despite it's name, is very nearly a rewrite of OS X. There is  
SO much under the hood that's different.


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Re: I have an idea...

[Frank J. R. Hanstick]

Hello,
	If you want to get an good idea of what is involved, look at Darwin 9  
(Leopard) vs Darwin 10 (Snow Leopard).  That will give you an idea of  
what is under the hood of each.


On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

I mean really, it's not waaay too hard because I know what i'm  
doing. I know

how hard it is because i developed an OS made from linux,



Seriously, no you don't know what you are doing, because you  
wouldn't be asking this question if you did.


To use the Standard LEM Car Metaphor, what you did was build a semi- 
custom dune buggy with a VW engine. Now you want to build a F1  
racer, using assorted parts from a Kenworth semi tractor, a BMW 520- 
series with the diesel engine and a Harley Sportster.


For one Rosetta is a useless lump of bits to a PPC machine. It is a  
PPC to X86 emulator, and only works in that direction. Also, Snow  
Leopard, despite it's name, is very nearly a rewrite of OS X. There  
is SO much under the hood that's different.


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Re: After Leopard Assist got loading stuff on screen

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


to fix this run (in a Terminal window):

sudo nvram boot-args="-v"

Just like that. It will ask for your password and afterwards, you'll  
be back to the normal boot.


This command will set verbose mode, to remove it you need:

sudo nvram boot-args=""

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Re: I have an idea...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Frank J. R. Hanstick wrote:


Hello,
	If you want to get an good idea of what is involved, look at Darwin  
9 (Leopard) vs Darwin 10 (Snow Leopard).  That will give you an idea  
of what is under the hood of each.


To an extent.

Darwin does not include the Core technologies which are a MAJOR part  
of Snow Leopard: Core Video, Core Graphics, etc.


These were heavily re-written between 10.5 and 10.6, in fact, I  
suspect this was where almost all of the work was done.


Seriously if you're too poor to buy a new mac there are loads of sites  
out there that'll help you get 10.6 running on a fairly wide  
assortment of non-Apple standard intel-based gear.


Apple isn't going to come hunt you down for making your own  
Hackintosh, unless you go into business selling them, like Psystar  
tried to do.


Web sites like OSX86 and Google groups like Hackintosh are both good  
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Re: Lost Password

[icebookusr]

This should help you: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Papa Bear wrote:


I just perchased a 333 Lombard G3 and it is running Ubuntu. .Problem
is it is password protected and I do not have the password. No CD so
hard to install a different OS and really would liike to keep the
Ubuntu.  Any way around this??  Any and all help appreciated.  Papa
Bear

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Re: Video convertion

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Norm Rowe wrote:

I need to convert MOD/MOI files from my JVC video camera to  
something I can but on a DVD for playback on my home DVD player.


Change the file extension to .mov and then import into iMovie to burn  
a DVD.


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Utube conversion

[John Carmonne]

Hi All

Is there an application that will download a Utube movie and convert it to 
Quick Time so I can watch it on slower PPC processors?

John Carmonne
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Re: Utube conversion

[Mark Sokolovsky]

I think youtube banned  video downloading in 2007. I tried it, but you'll
either get two things:

1. It won't work
2. You will get caught by the site administration, and it will work but you
might get sued.

PowerPc computers are not slower. I guarantee you that if PowerPC computers
were still made today, they would beat any Intel Xeon or i7 out there. A
video that is that large can work properly on a PowerPC computer without
being slow, just as long as you have good system specs.

here is what i recommend to watch videos without any performance issues:

400Mhz PowerPC G4
1GB RAM
64MB or better video card

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Re: Video convertion

[Mark Sokolovsky]

I really don't think that just simply renaming the extension will do
anything. I had a song that was in the .WAV format, and i renamed it to the
.MP3 format because if i use the .WAV format, my iPod nano 3G won't play it
at all. When i converted the file format, the system told me the file was
corrupt, so i had to change it back to the .WAV format. There should be a
program that converts files to other formats somewhere on google...

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Re: Utube conversion

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:26 PM, John Carmonne wrote:


Hi All

Is there an application that will download a Utube movie and convert  
it to Quick Time so I can watch it on slower PPC processors?



CosmoPod is great, it's a safari plugin.





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Re: I have an idea...

[Mark Sokolovsky]

If it was an OS i was gonna make, I would make Mac OS X Snow leopard
(PowerPC Edition).

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Re: I have an idea...

[Mark Sokolovsky]

I can go out and buy myself a new intel iMac. I already have some, but the
thing is, I want to do something fun, like a project to work on. I always
messed around with different systems and making them work on different
architectures, because i thought i might have had something to be proud of,
but i'm just saying... I have plenty of spare time, so why not?
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Re: I have an idea...

[Mark Sokolovsky]

Here's another good question. Is it possible to run Snow Leopard on a PPC
machine using  virtual PC? If so, where do I download it? I have searched
all over google and no flags anywhere. If anyone had a direct site or
download link in which i can get Virtual PC 7 for my PPC mac, then post it.
I just want to see what my reliable Sawtooth can do compared to my early
2010 intel i7 quad-core iMac.

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Re: Video convertion

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Norm Rowe wrote:

I need to convert MOD/MOI files from my JVC video camera to  
something I can but on a DVD for playback on my home DVD player.


Change the file extension to .mov and then import into iMovie to  
burn a DVD.




This  would indicate that they're a  
form of MPEG, so changing the file extension to .mpg will do it.


You can use that modcopy program in OS X, but you'll install the  
latest yourself, at least for 10.5 since the version of Python that  
ships in OS X is 2.5.1


dbdev2:~ johnson$ python -V
Python 2.5.1



(note the Python 3 releases are major changes to Python, so if you  
have a script that calls for version 2.X it's safest to use a 2.X  
distribution)


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Re: I have an idea...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

Here's another good question. Is it possible to run Snow Leopard on  
a PPC
machine using  virtual PC? If so, where do I download it? I have  
searched

all over google and no flags anywhere. If anyone had a direct site or
download link in which i can get Virtual PC 7 for my PPC mac, then  
post it.
I just want to see what my reliable Sawtooth can do compared to my  
early

2010 intel i7 quad-core iMac.


The only extant X86 emulators for PowerPC systems I know of are Q  and Bochs .


Virtual PC on the Mac was killed when Microsoft bought it, then used  
as the basis for their own VM stuff under Windows.


As for 'what your reliable Sawtooth can do compared to your quad-core  
iMac': not much at all.


I used Q to try to get Win98 running on my 1Ghz upgraded GigEthernet.  
(1Gig ram, ATI Radeon 9000 video)


I succeeded, in that I got a 'PC' up and running, and installed  
Windows 98.


It would take up to 20 MINUTES to boot up, and using it was an  
exercise in extreme tai-chi computing, but it ran.


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Re: Video convertion

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:




This  would indicate that they're a  
form of MPEG, so changing the file extension to .mpg will do it.




Here's some more explanation:



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Re: Video convertion

[Brian Fuelleman]

If this is more than a one time thing for you then you might consider something 
like Total Video Converter from Biggasoft, it imports and exports just about 
any file format for video.  http://www.bigasoft.com
If this is just a one time thing you might find someone local with FinalCut to 
do the conversion for you.  I'm surprised that the manufacturer's software 
didn't come with the ability to convert their files to something more universal.





From: Norm Rowe 
To: g3-5 
Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 10:55:32 AM
Subject: Video convertion

I need to convert MOD/MOI files from my JVC video camera to something I
can but on a DVD for playback on my home DVD player.
Thanks
Norm
nrow...@roadrunner.com

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Re: Utube conversion

[JOHN CARMONNE]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

I think youtube banned  video downloading in 2007. I tried it, but  
you'll either get two things:


1. It won't work
2. You will get caught by the site administration, and it will work  
but you might get sued.


PowerPc computers are not slower. I guarantee you that if PowerPC  
computers were still made today, they would beat any Intel Xeon or  
i7 out there. A video that is that large can work properly on a  
PowerPC computer without being slow, just as long as you have good  
system specs.


here is what i recommend to watch videos without any performance  
issues:


400Mhz PowerPC G4
1GB RAM
64MB or better video card
You must be refering to wmv videos or DVDs on a G4 400 MHz. I can't  
acceptably play a Utube streaming video on a
 PPC slower than 800 and that's on the edge. Even my G4 MDD Dual  
1.25 2 GB RAM can choke on some of them. The only PPC
machine I have that will do it as well as an Intel is a PM G5 Dual  
2.7. 6 GB RAM. What other magic do you have on that G4 400?
I have 3 G4 500 MHz Cubes all 1.5 Gb Ram and the Utube performance on  
them is pathetic.



JOHN CARMONNE
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Re: Utube conversion

[JOHN CARMONNE]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:26 PM, John Carmonne wrote:


Hi All

Is there an application that will download a Utube movie and  
convert it to Quick Time so I can watch it on slower PPC processors?



CosmoPod is great, it's a safari plugin.





Thanks I'll try it.


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Re: Utube conversion

[Stephen Conrad]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:51 PM, JOHN CARMONNE  wrote:

>
>  On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:26 PM, John Carmonne wrote:
>
>  Hi All
>
> Is there an application that will download a Utube movie and convert it to
> Quick Time so I can watch it on slower PPC processors?
>
>
>
> CosmoPod is great, it's a safari plugin.
>
> 
>
>
>  There is also Down Them All for Firefox among others (Download Helper,
> UnPlugged, etc.)
>
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Re: capture stream

[Cliff Rediger]

> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:34 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:
> > Can I get an application that will capture streaming video feeds in  
> > a format that I can use to burn a DVD?

On Apr 20, 9:08 am, Fabian Fang  wrote:>
> 

Re: Is there usenet interface possible for this group?

[dorayme]

On Apr 19, 1:05 pm, Dan  wrote:
> At 11:08 AM +1000 4/19/2010, dorayme wrote:
>
> >Could a way be found to have this group read and posted to in a
> >normal usenet software like MT-NewsWatcher? Would make it so much
> >easier and less clunky to operate with. One of the best groups
> >around because nice people and moderated but not the best choices
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> That would be sweet to have all the LEM groups up on USENET!
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Not what I suggested. Rather it would be nice to be able to use an
online newsreader or online newsreader style software to  use LEM. It
would get the clunk factor out of the whole thing for me. I don't know
about others. What is important is me. Surely? 

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Re: Utube conversion

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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:26 PM, John Carmonne  wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Is there an application that will download a Utube movie and convert it to
> Quick Time so I can watch it on slower PPC processors?
>
> --

Have you looked for a utility on versiontracker.com ?

Or access to a PC to use youtube downloader ?




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Re: I have an idea...

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

> I perfectly understand that Snow Leopard is not supported at all under the
> PowerPC architecture, but what if i modified the code in the system? I do
> see a way that I can take the code from Leopard and put it in snow leopard.
> Then integrate Rosetta into the system to run the intel programs. It's a
> longshot, but it just might work. Would that be illegal?
>
> --
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>
Besides taking a lot of work I do believe this would be a major violation of
the EULA.



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Re: I have an idea...

[Doug McNutt]

At 18:07 -0400 4/20/10, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
Here's another good question. Is it possible to run Snow Leopard on a PPC 
machine using  virtual PC? If so, where do I download it? I have searched all 
over google and no flags anywhere. If anyone had a direct site or download link 
in which i can get Virtual PC 7 for my PPC mac, then post it. I just want to 
see what my reliable Sawtooth can do compared to my early 2010 intel i7 
quad-core iMac.

The folks using Linux take proper advantage of, and give proper credit to, 
programmers willing to help.

I am amazed, after reading the book, that X11 graphics are very much like the 
system calls of the good old MacOS prior to OS neXt.

Recovering the COMMAND key of the Mac OS and making ENTER execute a selected 
UNIX command while RETURN inserts a line end is my current goal but I may never 
get there.

So if you're really interested in making Snow Leopard work on other than 
current Apple machines please think about Linux.

Apple Computer, Inc. changed it's name to Apple, Inc. I'm starting to think 
they should have changed it to Apple Entertainment, Inc.
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Re: Utube conversion

[M Christol]

I used TubeSock for awhile, but eventually the saved files quit wotking 
in QTPro. They worked in VLC.

YouTube seems to have found a way to block TubeSock, too.

John Carmonne wrote:

Hi All

Is there an application that will download a Utube movie and convert it to 
Quick Time so I can watch it on slower PPC processors?

John Carmonne
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Sent from my MBP






  


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Re: I have an idea...

[Chance Reecher]

I'm almost 100% positive you'll never get SL running in Virtual PC. As 
far as I know, Virtual PC does not emulate SSE2, a processor technology 
required to run any Intel Mac OS. Besides, running an OS like SL in an 
emulator would be very painful and slow.


Doug McNutt wrote:

At 18:07 -0400 4/20/10, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
Here's another good question. Is it possible to run Snow Leopard on a PPC 
machine using  virtual PC? If so, where do I download it? I have searched all 
over google and no flags anywhere. If anyone had a direct site or download link 
in which i can get Virtual PC 7 for my PPC mac, then post it. I just want to 
see what my reliable Sawtooth can do compared to my early 2010 intel i7 
quad-core iMac.

The folks using Linux take proper advantage of, and give proper credit to, 
programmers willing to help.

I am amazed, after reading the book, that X11 graphics are very much like the 
system calls of the good old MacOS prior to OS neXt.

Recovering the COMMAND key of the Mac OS and making ENTER execute a selected 
UNIX command while RETURN inserts a line end is my current goal but I may never 
get there.

So if you're really interested in making Snow Leopard work on other than 
current Apple machines please think about Linux.

Apple Computer, Inc. changed it's name to Apple, Inc. I'm starting to think 
they should have changed it to Apple Entertainment, Inc.
  


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Re: Utube conversion

[Deaner Lawless Jr.]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:35 PM, M Christol wrote:

> I used TubeSock for awhile, but eventually the saved files quit wotking in 
> QTPro. They worked in VLC.
> YouTube seems to have found a way to block TubeSock, too.
> 
> John Carmonne wrote:
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Is there an application that will download a Utube movie and convert it to 
>> Quick Time so I can watch it on slower PPC processor

I use Safari to download the YouTube video. As the video is playing open the 
Safari's Activity window and look for the file ending with .FLV. Double click 
that URL and it will be saved as a .FLV. I then use QT Pro v7 to export to the 
desired format.

Deaner

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Re: I have an idea...

[Baha Ata]

take out all Intel code from Leopard... and optimize all Leopard code
again for highest performance for PPC... it is become dark leopard...
or black leopard...

Make it! if you can... it is better than snow leopard on PPC :)

Or if you can, why not add support USB 2 to Mac OS 9...

it will be perfect...

or some addons for Mac OS 9 for ability choosing Firewire or USB disc
full speed start up...

And why not make a Firefox browser for Mac OS 9...

Those are mine wish list!

Really good wish list!

2010/4/20 Mark Sokolovsky :
> I perfectly understand that Snow Leopard is not supported at all under the
> PowerPC architecture, but what if i modified the code in the system? I do
> see a way that I can take the code from Leopard and put it in snow leopard.
> Then integrate Rosetta into the system to run the intel programs. It's a
> longshot, but it just might work. Would that be illegal?
>
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Re: Utube conversion

[Jason Davies]

>Hi All
>
>Is there an application that will download a Utube movie and convert it to
>Quick Time so I can watch it on slower PPC processors?
>
>John Carmonne
>Yorba Linda USA
>Sent from my MBP

Drag the following text to your bookmark bar, click on the bookmark while
on the youtube page, and it will usually download the video as
.mp(something)

javascript:var%20video_id=null;var%20video_hash=null;var%20video_player=document.getElementById('movie_player');if(video_player){var%20flash_variables=video_player.attributes.getNamedItem('flashvars');if(flash_variables){var%20flash_values=flash_variables.value;if(flash_values){var%20video_id_match=flash_values.match(/[^a-z]video_id=([^(\&|$)]*)/);if(video_id_match!=null)video_id=video_id_match[1];var%20video_hash_match=flash_values.match(/[^a-z]t=([^(\&|$)]*)/);if(video_hash_match!=null)video_hash=video_hash_match[1]}}}if(video_id==null||video_hash==null){var%20args=null;try{args=yt.getConfig('SWF_ARGS')}catch(e){}if(args){video_id=args['video_id'];video_hash=args['t']}}if(video_id!=null&&video_hash!=null){var%20fmt='18';try{if(yt.getConfig('IS_HD_AVAILABLE'))fmt='18'}catch(e){}if(!document.getElementById('download-youtube-video')){var%20yt_mp4_path='http://www.youtube.com/get_video?fmt='+fmt+'&video_id='+video_id+'&t='+video_hash;var%20div_embed=document.getElementById('wat
ch-embed-div');if(div_embed){var%20div_download=document.createElement('div');div_download.innerHTML='%3Cbr%20/%3E%20%3Cspan%20id=\'download-youtube-video\'%3E%20%3Ca%20href=\''+yt_mp4_path+'\'%20onclick=\'blur(this);\'%3EDownload%20as%20MP4%3C/a%3E%3C/span%3E';div_embed.appendChild(div_download);}if(navigator.appName!='Microsoft%20Internet%20Explorer'){document.location.href='http://www.youtube.com/get_video?fmt='+fmt+'&video_id='+video_id+'&t='+video_hash}}}void(0);
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Re: I have an idea...

[Doug McNutt]

At 04:49 +0300 4/21/10, Baha Ata wrote:
>And why not make a Firefox browser for Mac OS 9...

Are you, and everyone else, aware of Classilla?


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Re: I have an idea...

[Dan]

At 6:07 PM -0400 4/20/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
Here's another good question. Is it possible to run Snow Leopard on 
a PPC machine using  virtual PC?


Well, first of all the Mac would run an older Mac OS X, ppc native. 
The VM would run under that.  Since it emulates a BIOS based machine, 
you'd have to re-craft the BIOS->EFI wedge code, then boot in Snow 
Leopard.  Quite complicated.


If so, where do I download it? I have searched all over google and 
no flags anywhere.


It's a commercial product; you'd have to purchase it.


You know, if you're capable of doing all this...  It might be better 
to funnel your efforts into something more productive - like joining 
an open source project.  Adium needs developers!


- Dan.
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Re: I have an idea...

[Dan]

At 4:49 AM +0300 4/21/2010, Baha Ata wrote:


Or if you can, why not add support USB 2 to Mac OS 9...


A USB2 driver for OS 9 would be great to have!

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Re: Is there usenet interface possible for this group?

[Dan]

At 4:11 PM -0700 4/20/2010, dorayme wrote:

Not what I suggested. Rather it would be nice to be able to use an
online newsreader or online newsreader style software to  use LEM. It
would get the clunk factor out of the whole thing for me.


Oh.  Ok.  Try a different email client.

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Re: I have an idea...

[Baha Ata]

hmmm... thanks for that i will try on my 9600

2010/4/21 Doug McNutt :
> At 04:49 +0300 4/21/10, Baha Ata wrote:
>>And why not make a Firefox browser for Mac OS 9...
>
> Are you, and everyone else, aware of Classilla?
> 
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Fwd: Iran war plot

[John Musbach]

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From: kathaksung 
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:10:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Iran war plot
To: totse 

626. Iran war - Part of the March plot (2/21/2010)

The drum of the war on Iran is beating again. This is part of the
March plot to distract public attention from the framed drug case.

Quote, "US Army Chief: "Iran attack option on the table"
February 15. 2010

http://www.defpro.org/news/details/13160/

Inspectors Say Iran Worked on Warhead

By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
Published: February 18, 2010

WASHINGTON — The United Nations’ nuclear inspectors declared for the
first time on Thursday that they had extensive evidence of “past or
current undisclosed activities” by Iran’s military to develop a
nuclear warhead, an unusually strongly worded conclusion that seems
certain to accelerate Iran’s confrontation with the United States and
other Western countries.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/world/middleeast/19iran.html

To justify the war, a false flag terror attack is inevitable. Just
like 911 attack is necessary for Iraq war. WASHINGTON—The U.S.'s top
intelligence officials said Tuesday that an attempted al Qaeda attack
on the U.S. in the next three to six months was "certain." That
warning was issued on 2/3/2010, probably for the 2/13 New Year's Eve
dinner plot. Then on 2/15, a more clear warning of the "terror attack
within 90 days" was issued.(see #625) I think that is for the coming
March plot. I made it more precise: The time likely will be from
2/26-3/14.

Following the plot, there will be big internet attack to wipe out my
postings. There will be a big economic fluctuation too – the Euro will
depreciate significantly. That is too, part of the big plot to hit
Iran’s finance and has been prepared in advance.

627. Bombing IRS building (2/28/2010)

Nine days ago, a software engineer flied a plane into an IRS building.
Although it could be an individual case, it also could be a created
case similar to 911. The 911 attack justified the Mid-East war. This
event may be used to justify a coming attack on IRS office.

I say so based on the following:

1. In TV, we saw the damage the plane caused on building is vast and
severe, almost the whole first floor was broken and having fire,
though the casualty was comparatively light.

Quote,”
"Originally Posted by bhkad
I swear I already heard someone on TV say that the plane couldn't
carry enough gas to fuel such a conflagration. That made me think
along the same lines as you. "

I heard the same. About an hour after the crash, one of the anchors
was describing the scene and he said that there "MUST" have been some
sort of extra incendiaries on board, because the fire was "much too
big for such a small plane".

Keep in mind that the Piper PA-28 has a fuel capacity of only 48
gallons.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy...stin-today.html

2. Dispute with IRS is common. What's so big made Joseph Stack to
sacrifice his life for it?

3. His finance seems OK. He at least could access to plane which real
poverty couldn't afford for.

I alleged the Feds was behind it because:

1. It is a criminal style Feds used to commit. We saw similar case in
911 attack and in Lidle's case. (see "442. Lidle's air crash in New
York.(10/15/06)")

911 attack was used to justify Mid-east war. Lidle's air plane crash
was planed to justify a coming dirty bomb attack.
On 10/9/2006, North Korea had a nuclear test.
On 10/11, Lidle's small plane crashed to a sky-rise in New York.
On 10/12, a warning of dirty bomb attack was posted in internet which
claimed seven NFL football stadiums will be hit with radiological
"dirty bombs".

2. Motive: the Feds is eager to finish my case. Timing factors: the
Patriot Act with provisions particularly on me expires today. The
payments to China are due and now are extended for a month or so. (see
the case of Taiwan's president in #625 ) The tax exemption for house
purchasing will due in March that will affect the real estate market.
Feds hold a lot of house property in my case.

3. Timing. 2/13 New Year's Eve dinner plot went soured. Another plot
is planed in my wife's trip from 2/26 to 3/14. A crash on IRS building
happened on 2/18 may justify the coming attack in IRS office.

The likely action is to arrange me in an interview in IRS office. To
persecute people through IRS is also a tactic the Feds used to. Then a
bombing will do the elimination job which is already justified by
Stack's case.

I allege so because there was attempt to search my house through IRS.
Re: #610 The latest case is trying to perform search in the name of
IRS. To reach their goal, my wife deliberately filed wrong tax return.
I had to abandon the joint tax return. One event they created was the
Virginia Tech. massacre which was used to distract the framed case. It
took place on April. 17, 2007 - the last day to file the tax return.
The Feds expected me to file the tax return.

Along with this there will be an attack on the Intern

Re:

[Charles Lenington]

Jonas Ulrich wrote:
Well there was a reason I got the imac for free... But it is worth 
fixing because it has good caps and motherboard.


-Jonas



Did you check the caps in the power supply?

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Re: Want to know how to modify the "About this Mac" window?

[John Carmonne]

On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:57 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

> You know that "About this Mac" window that can be accessed at the top of the 
> Apple menu on the menu bar? look at it.
> 
> Well, the reason why this is "supposedly" running Snow leopard on a PPC mac, 
> is because i hacked one of the .strings files that display that system 
> information. I actually have Leopard on it, but since Leopard and Snow 
> Leopard's GUI on the desktop don't look too different, I waned to surprise 
> people on how I did this. A couple of weeks ago, I learned this trick on Mac 
> OS X hints website.
> to modify the file that shows the information, go to:
> 
> file:///System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/AboutThisMac.strings
> 
> open it with textedit.
> 
> If you see the following lines that look like this, except with leopard's 
> info but want to change it to Snow Leopard, copy this:
> 
> /* The format string used to generate the Build text field in the About This 
> Mac window. */
> /* The "%@" sequence is replaced by the build number. */
> "ABOUT_BOX_BUILD_FORMAT_STRING" = "Build 10C540";
> 
> /* The format string used to generate the Version text field in the About 
> This Mac window. */
> /* The "%@" sequence is replaced by the version number. */
> "ABOUT_BOX_VERSION_FORMAT_STRING" = "Version 10.6.2";
> 
> Then save it to the desktop and uave it as: AboutThisMac.Strings using that 
> specific format, otherwise it won't work. Then drag it to the English.Iproj 
> folder, authenticate it, replace it, and click on the About this Mac button 
> on the Apple Menu. You will get the same result I did.
> 
> --Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth.
OH OH busted.
John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: Want to know how to modify the "About this Mac" window?

[Mark Sokolovsky]

What do you mean busted?

On 4/21/10, John Carmonne  wrote:
>
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:57 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
>
>> You know that "About this Mac" window that can be accessed at the top of
>> the Apple menu on the menu bar? look at it.
>>
>> Well, the reason why this is "supposedly" running Snow leopard on a PPC
>> mac, is because i hacked one of the .strings files that display that
>> system information. I actually have Leopard on it, but since Leopard and
>> Snow Leopard's GUI on the desktop don't look too different, I waned to
>> surprise people on how I did this. A couple of weeks ago, I learned this
>> trick on Mac OS X hints website.
>> to modify the file that shows the information, go to:
>>
>> file:///System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/AboutThisMac.strings
>>
>> open it with textedit.
>>
>> If you see the following lines that look like this, except with leopard's
>> info but want to change it to Snow Leopard, copy this:
>>
>> /* The format string used to generate the Build text field in the About
>> This Mac window. */
>> /* The "%@" sequence is replaced by the build number. */
>> "ABOUT_BOX_BUILD_FORMAT_STRING" = "Build 10C540";
>>
>> /* The format string used to generate the Version text field in the About
>> This Mac window. */
>> /* The "%@" sequence is replaced by the version number. */
>> "ABOUT_BOX_VERSION_FORMAT_STRING" = "Version 10.6.2";
>>
>> Then save it to the desktop and uave it as: AboutThisMac.Strings using
>> that specific format, otherwise it won't work. Then drag it to the
>> English.Iproj folder, authenticate it, replace it, and click on the About
>> this Mac button on the Apple Menu. You will get the same result I did.
>>
>> --Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth.
> OH OH busted.
> John Carmonne
> Yorba Linda USA
> Sent from my MBP
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Is there usenet interface possible for this group?

[dorayme]

On Apr 21, 12:36 pm, Dan  wrote:
> At 4:11 PM -0700 4/20/2010, dorayme wrote:
>
> >Not what I suggested. Rather it would be nice to be able to use an
> >online newsreader or online newsreader style software to  use LEM. It
> >would get the clunk factor out of the whole thing for me.
>
> Oh.  Ok.  Try a different email client.
>

Is there an email client that works so nice as MT-NewsWatcher to read
and reply to posts by subscribers to  a community of online folk? Can
you think of any email client that would be better than Mail.app. (I
was only joking about me being most important. I am actually probably
the least thing on earth today. I was offering something for
discussion, not seeking your help for myself.)

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Re: I have an idea...

[Mark Sokolovsky]

Here's a good question. When i run into a program (let's say it was
Front Row)... I know how to install the code, but I can't see the
PowerPC code or the intel code. When i open it in textedit or any
other program, i get just a full page of codes. I am afraid of
modifying anything because i might prevent the program from worrking
ever again. I know what i'm doing, but is half the page intel and PPC
code? or is it PPC then intel and then PPC and intel... I might find a
pattern, but it may take a while. I have seen intel codes from windows
computers before, so i should see a difference between the PPC code
and the intel one. It may take a while though.

Other than that, the only way i can have Snow Leopard (supposedly) on
any PPc mac is by modifying the system profiler info on leopard and
the about this mac window file in the leopard, and change it to the SL
wallpaper, so basically it's leopard with a different wallpaper and
wrong system info. lol

On 4/20/10, Baha Ata  wrote:
> hmmm... thanks for that i will try on my 9600
>
> 2010/4/21 Doug McNutt :
>> At 04:49 +0300 4/21/10, Baha Ata wrote:
>>>And why not make a Firefox browser for Mac OS 9...
>>
>> Are you, and everyone else, aware of Classilla?
>> 
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Re: I have an idea...

[Mark Sokolovsky]

The only way i know of RIGHT NOW that Snow Leopard's core image will
work is by getting a newer video card. The core image does not depend
on the processor arcetechture, it depends on if the video card can
support it. an Nvidia GeForce 6800GT should work with 256MB of VRAM.

On 4/21/10, Mark Sokolovsky  wrote:
> Here's a good question. When i run into a program (let's say it was
> Front Row)... I know how to install the code, but I can't see the
> PowerPC code or the intel code. When i open it in textedit or any
> other program, i get just a full page of codes. I am afraid of
> modifying anything because i might prevent the program from worrking
> ever again. I know what i'm doing, but is half the page intel and PPC
> code? or is it PPC then intel and then PPC and intel... I might find a
> pattern, but it may take a while. I have seen intel codes from windows
> computers before, so i should see a difference between the PPC code
> and the intel one. It may take a while though.
>
> Other than that, the only way i can have Snow Leopard (supposedly) on
> any PPc mac is by modifying the system profiler info on leopard and
> the about this mac window file in the leopard, and change it to the SL
> wallpaper, so basically it's leopard with a different wallpaper and
> wrong system info. lol
>
> On 4/20/10, Baha Ata  wrote:
>> hmmm... thanks for that i will try on my 9600
>>
>> 2010/4/21 Doug McNutt :
>>> At 04:49 +0300 4/21/10, Baha Ata wrote:
And why not make a Firefox browser for Mac OS 9...
>>>
>>> Are you, and everyone else, aware of Classilla?
>>> 
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Re: Iran war plot

[Mark Sokolovsky]

>
> So why are you posting about this on the G3-G5 list? This is about PPC macs
> (which rock), not about the war in Iraq. We have about 2000 people
> subscribed to this, and they don't have the time to go through all of this
> crap!


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