Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I don't think so. My 20 1.8GHZ is running at 162F.

Thanks!
-Jonas

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 Hi All


 Is 126 degrees F  high for a CPU temp in a G5 iMac 24 2.8 4 GBs RAM


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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:59 AM, John Carmonne wrote:


Is 126 degrees F  high for a CPU temp in a G5 iMac 24 2.8 4 GBs RAM


There's no such thing as a G5 iMac 24 2.8 GHz.

This must be an Intel iMac.

And no, 126 F isn't high, it's normal:

http://www.intelmactemp.com/list

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Re: Video Card Upgrade Info Please

2010-06-29 Thread pdimage
On 28/6/10 20:09, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Hi All:
 
 I am looking to upgrade the video in my DA dual 533.  I found the
 following card on eBay:
 
 MAC nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4600 AGP Video Card 128MB VRAM
 
 Here is the link:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/MAC-nVidia-GeForce4-Ti-4600-AGP-Video-Card-128MB-VRAM-/110
 550696900?cmd=ViewItempt=PCC_Video_TV_Cardshash=item19bd55c3c4
 
 Is this a good card?  Is it as powerful as the seller says it is?
 Thanks, Dennis

It's an old card and though it supports Qextreme it does not support
CoreImage - so if you would like to have CoreImage you will need a minimum
GeForce 5200 or better - for Radeon cards a 9600/9700/9800 Pro - the higher
the better.

Pete


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Re: Video Card Upgrade Info Please

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
It is actually an okay-ish card. if you want something that doesn't go slow,
this is a good choice. Don't rely way too heavily on this, because it's only
128MB of video RAM. On a scale from 1 to 10, it is a 4. I am going to get my
Nvidia GeForce 6200 GT card with 256MB of VRAM flashed to my sawtooth.
Basically, the more memory you can get to work on the video graphics on your
mac, the better. If you want regular and no intensive heavy tasks, then a
128MB video card would do fine. If you want something just twice as serious,
get something like i did. On a scale from 1 to 10, my Nvidia GeForce 6200
performs like a 10, with all of the smooth graphics. (Don't forget people, a
new MBP ships with 256MB of video RAM standard, so 256MB of Video RAM is
good!) Unless you can get really lucky and find a video card with 512MB of
VRAM on an AGP slot.

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Re: I need networking help

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I have used XpostFacto to install Mac OS X Jaguar on my PM 9600, and the
network problem is ok now. It can see the HDD now. The external HDD was on a
computer running Leopard. How can a computer running OS9 see a network drive
on a Leopard computer?

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread JoeTaxpayer
The inside of a Ford Taurus hits 140F easy in the midwest when outside
temp is 120-125.
126 for the chip is 'cool'

On Jun 29, 1:59 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi All

 Is 126 degrees F  high for a CPU temp in a G5 iMac 24 2.8 4 GBs RAM

 John Carmonne
 Yorba Linda USA
 Sent from my MBP

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread Illirik Smirnov
If my CPU ran at 126F, I would not have to have THAT much cooling for it.

Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
architecture.


On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:52 PM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.comwrote:

 The inside of a Ford Taurus hits 140F easy in the midwest when outside
 temp is 120-125.
 126 for the chip is 'cool'

 On Jun 29, 1:59 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
  Hi All
 
  Is 126 degrees F  high for a CPU temp in a G5 iMac 24 2.8 4 GBs RAM
 
  John Carmonne
  Yorba Linda USA
  Sent from my MBP

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Old Mac OSX

2010-06-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE

Hi All

I have a Mac Clone 6400 type with a Sonnet G3 card 300MHz can I put  
OSX on it somehow. I have XPostFacto but it doesn't seem to respond.
I know this may not be the specific list for this but there is good  
knowledge here also:-)



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Re: I need networking help

2010-06-29 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

 I have used XpostFacto to install Mac OS X Jaguar on my PM 9600, and the
 network problem is ok now. It can see the HDD now. The external HDD was on a
 computer running Leopard. How can a computer running OS9 see a network drive
 on a Leopard computer?

Classical Ethertalk was dropped by Apple in 10.4 or 10.5; leaving only 
Appletalk over IP.

To connect a Mac running OS 9 you need to enable appletalk over IP on the OS 9 
computer, go into the Chooser (iirc) and enter the IP address of the computer 
running leopard, at which point you can see and mount the shares on the Leopard 
computer.

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Re: I need networking help

2010-06-29 Thread Da'Birdman


On Jun 28, 3:16 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
  Btw, one more thing. I am attempting to install Mac OS X Tiger on my iBook 
  original clamshell (with no firewire), but so far, no luck. I hacked one of 
  the files which had the list of bad machines, no luck. XPostFacto, no luck. 
  XpostFacto does not work because it claims to not support the 
  PowerBook2,1. CCC, well, let's just say if  i copy it to a disk, it won't 
  boot off that copy. Anything i could do here? i do need tiger, because a 
  broad range of my network utilities require Mac OS X 10.4 or later. I don't 
  have any other Mac laptops besides this one.

I've never had any luck installing Tiger directly onto the non-
firewire Clamshell hard drives.  However, I've had excellent results
loading the OS onto the hard drive connected to a supported computer
via firewire.  After the install, simply (yeah, right - these are a
pain to work on!) install the hard drive into the Clamshell, and
you're good to go.  Hope this helps.

Scott Birdwell
DeFalco's Home Wine  Beer Supplies
Houston TX
www.defalcos.com

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Re: I need networking help

2010-06-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Da'Birdman wrote:




On Jun 28, 3:16 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
Btw, one more thing. I am attempting to install Mac OS X Tiger on  
my iBook original clamshell (with no firewire), but so far, no  
luck. I hacked one of the files which had the list of bad  
machines, no luck. XPostFacto, no luck. XpostFacto does not work  
because it claims to not support the PowerBook2,1. CCC, well,  
let's just say if  i copy it to a disk, it won't boot off that  
copy. Anything i could do here? i do need tiger, because a broad  
range of my network utilities require Mac OS X 10.4 or later. I  
don't have any other Mac laptops besides this one.


I've never had any luck installing Tiger directly onto the non-
firewire Clamshell hard drives.  However, I've had excellent results
loading the OS onto the hard drive connected to a supported computer
via firewire.  After the install, simply (yeah, right - these are a
pain to work on!) install the hard drive into the Clamshell, and
you're good to go.  Hope this helps.

Scott Birdwell
DeFalco's Home Wine  Beer Supplies
Houston TX
www.defalcos.com



How about skipping the HDD replacement and go with CCC? I did my  
first Wally via USB.


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800




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Re: I need networking help

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
CCC never worked for me as the OS itself would not boot. Also, I don't feel
like getting through all of those screws just to get to the hard drive.

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
126F? That is crazy! My PM G4 Sawtooth's PowerPC G4 processor runs an
average of 73F. IDK why, but it's like that. I have a thermal sensor next to
the processor.

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Re: I need networking help

2010-06-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 29, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

CCC never worked for me as the OS itself would not boot. Also, I  
don't feel like getting through all of those screws just to get to  
the hard drive.


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Can't you boot it via USB with an external DVD drive with a Tiger  
install disk from OS 9?


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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


On Jun 29, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

126F? That is crazy! My PM G4 Sawtooth's PowerPC G4 processor runs  
an average of 73F. IDK why, but it's like that. I have a thermal  
sensor next to the processor.


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turned on:-)


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Re: I need networking help

2010-06-29 Thread Richard Gerome
 I think that is the problem??? Crossing between OS 9 and OS 10 won't work... -Original Message-
From: Mark Sokolovsky 
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Subject: Re: I need networking help

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Re: CPU Temp?

2010-06-29 Thread Steve Thompson

On 20/06/2010 03:01, Ricardo Sevilla wrote:
Hello all. I have a quick question. Does any one know of an 
application that monitors cpu temp? OR, does anyone know how or where 
I can find this information? The reason being is I have a Cpu upgrade 
in my Quicksilver and wanted to see how much of a difference the 
supplied fans cooled the cpu. I have a few modifications in mind to 
try to minimize the noise while retaining the temps at a minimum. Any 
one have any ideas on how they cooled their Quicksilvers or G4s? 
Thanks in advance.


I use Temperature Monitor from Marcel Bresink on my G4 1GHZ it displays 
the system Temp and SMART status  in the taskbar.


http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I don't mean to doubt you, but it that 73 F or C? My house is 75F so
for the inside of anything but the fridge to be cooler is tough.

On Jun 29, 1:50 pm, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 126F? That is crazy! My PM G4 Sawtooth's PowerPC G4 processor runs an
 average of 73F. IDK why, but it's like that. I have a thermal sensor next to
 the processor.

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
My sawtooth is 73F when turned on.

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
5 blue LED fans and a hydrogen cooled system is in there =)

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread John Carmonne

On Jun 29, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

 5 blue LED fans and a hydrogen cooled system is in there =)
 
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Darn I should've known you would have a hydrogen cooled system, what the heck 
is that and where do I get one?

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread Chance Reecher
John, remember his video he posted a few weeks ago claiming he had
magically gotten SL to run on said sawtooth? He opened his G4's
case, and I believe I saw the stock heatsink, not some hydrogen
cooling assembly.
I call more M-Sok BS on this one. After some googling it appears
that the only use of hydrogen in a cooling system is in
turbogenerators. (Watch, Mark will say he has one of those in his
G4, and that's why it runs SL. =D )

Chance

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:18 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:

 On Jun 29, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

 5 blue LED fans and a hydrogen cooled system is in there =)

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 Darn I should've known you would have a hydrogen cooled system, what the heck 
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dvd's but no cd's? what's up with that?

2010-06-29 Thread Jeffrey Engle
I bought a used pioneer DVR-106PB (apple branded) on ebay last  
month I tried a dvd on it when I got it and thought it was fine?  
but I just today tried to get a cd to mount and for some reason it  
won't? bad drive? or not.


Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

My Mac Information:
Power Mac G5 (Early 2005 Model)
Dual 2.3ghz
6 gb DDR SDRAM
Leopard 10.5.8 (Build 9L31a)
Firmtek/Seritek 1V4 (Rom v. 5.1.3)
G5-Jive w/3 500gb WD HD's
Silicon Image 4-port PCI X (eSata)
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Re: dvd's but no cd's? what's up with that?

2010-06-29 Thread John Carmonne

On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

 I bought a used pioneer DVR-106PB (apple branded) on ebay last month I 
 tried a dvd on it when I got it and thought it was fine? but I just today 
 tried to get a cd to mount and for some reason it won't? bad drive? or 
 not. 
 

 Jeff Engle
 Kamiah, Idaho 83536
 

Is it in the PM G5?

John Carmonne
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Re: dvd's but no cd's? what's up with that?

2010-06-29 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:39 PM, John Carmonne wrote:



On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

I bought a used pioneer DVR-106PB (apple branded) on ebay last  
month I tried a dvd on it when I got it and thought it was  
fine? but I just today tried to get a cd to mount and for some  
reason it won't? bad drive? or not.





Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536



Is it in the PM G5?

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP




Yes... it is. Jeff

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread John Carmonne

On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Chance Reecher wrote:

 John, remember his video he posted a few weeks ago claiming he had
 magically gotten SL to run on said sawtooth? He opened his G4's
 case, and I believe I saw the stock heatsink, not some hydrogen
 cooling assembly.
 I call more M-Sok BS on this one. After some googling it appears
 that the only use of hydrogen in a cooling system is in
 turbogenerators. (Watch, Mark will say he has one of those in his
 G4, and that's why it runs SL. =D )
 
Why not get one of those little bar fridges at Wally World and poke some holes 
in it for the cables and put a Apple sticker on it,
Call it  iCeLeopard G45:-)

Yeah i bought RAM to get my  BUICK  (PM G4 MDD) from 2GBs up to 4GBs cause he 
said he did it.
But that stuff I can use in the PM G5 so now it's 8GB instead of 6. 
I have a a PM G5 dual 2.7 Liquid cooed and it's CPU's run around 140.F higher 
when ripping 
and burning. Well it's for good reading when the guru's get fired up and turn 
loose of some good info:-)

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
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Re: dvd's but no cd's? what's up with that?

2010-06-29 Thread John Carmonne

On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:39 PM, John Carmonne wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
 
 I bought a used pioneer DVR-106PB (apple branded) on ebay last month I 
 tried a dvd on it when I got it and thought it was fine? but I just today 
 tried to get a cd to mount and for some reason it won't? bad drive? or 
 not.
 
 
 Jeff Engle
 Kamiah, Idaho 83536
 
 
 Is it in the PM G5?
 
 John Carmonne
 Yorba Linda USA
 Sent from my MBP
 
 
 
 Yes... it is. Jeff
 
I had this happen on a PM G4 a while ago I'll tell you what I did to fix it and 
I sure can't say why. After hours of frustration reinstalling the systems and 
verifying the drive in an external box on other machines it turned out to be a 
file that's called frame work. I had to actually manually reinstall it. I don't 
know if this applies to your system. The first thing I would do if you can is 
to check the drive on another machine or say on the FW ports of the PM G5.
John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP






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Re: dvd's but no cd's? what's up with that?

2010-06-29 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Jun 29, 2010, at 6:06 PM, John Carmonne wrote:



On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:39 PM, John Carmonne wrote:



On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

I bought a used pioneer DVR-106PB (apple branded) on ebay last  
month I tried a dvd on it when I got it and thought it was  
fine? but I just today tried to get a cd to mount and for some  
reason it won't? bad drive? or not.





Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536



Is it in the PM G5?

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP




Yes... it is. Jeff

I had this happen on a PM G4 a while ago I'll tell you what I did to  
fix it and I sure can't say why. After hours of frustration  
reinstalling the systems and verifying the drive in an external box  
on other machines it turned out to be a file that's called frame  
work. I had to actually manually reinstall it. I don't know if this  
applies to your system. The first thing I would do if you can is to  
check the drive on another machine or say on the FW ports of the PM  
G5.




John, just so happens that I installed the drive into an external fw  
enclosure... it's still kind-of sporadic in behavior, the first time I  
put a cd in in, it would not mount on the desktop, but.. when I opened  
the drawer, then closed it (with the cd inside), then it mounted fine?  
weird huh? I just bought (arrived today) 2 pioneer 118's from  
newegg... installed one in the pmg5... I had 2 kernal panics...  
restarted a couple times... tried to pram reset and for some reason I  
could only get one chime? strange... I also got a new wireless board  
and magic mouse today too, maybe there's a glitch in the wireless  
stuff... belkin bluetooth module? hmmm



Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Agreed. 25C=77F and 50C is pretty normal from what I gather, 122F.
Makes no sense that the inside of any device is not quite above room
temp.

On Jun 29, 8:05 pm, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote:
 John, remember his video he posted a few weeks ago claiming he had
 magically gotten SL to run on said sawtooth? He opened his G4's
 case, and I believe I saw the stock heatsink, not some hydrogen
 cooling assembly.
 I call more M-Sok BS on this one. After some googling it appears
 that the only use of hydrogen in a cooling system is in
 turbogenerators. (Watch, Mark will say he has one of those in his
 G4, and that's why it runs SL. =D )

 Chance

 On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:18 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:

  On Jun 29, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

  5 blue LED fans and a hydrogen cooled system is in there =)

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  Darn I should've known you would have a hydrogen cooled system, what the 
  heck is that and where do I get one?

  John Carmonne
  Yorba Linda USA
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Re: dvd's but no cd's? what's up with that?

2010-06-29 Thread Bill Connelly


On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:




John, just so happens that I installed the drive into an external fw  
enclosure... it's still kind-of sporadic in behavior, the first time  
I put a cd in in, it would not mount on the desktop, but.. when I  
opened the drawer, then closed it (with the cd inside), then it  
mounted fine? weird huh? I just bought (arrived today) 2 pioneer  
118's from newegg... installed one in the pmg5... I had 2 kernal  
panics... restarted a couple times... tried to pram reset and for  
some reason I could only get one chime? strange... I also got a new  
wireless board and magic mouse today too, maybe there's a glitch in  
the wireless stuff... belkin bluetooth module? hmmm





Might try only installing one item at a time ...

Sounds like the troubled DVD/CD drive is bad ... or going bad ...

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Re: dvd's but no cd's? what's up with that?

2010-06-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE




I bought a used pioneer DVR-106PB (apple branded) on ebay last  
month I tried a dvd on it when I got it and thought it was  
fine? but I just today tried to get a cd to mount and for some  
reason it won't? bad drive? or not.




Is it in the PM G5?



Yes... it is. Jeff

I had this happen on a PM G4 a while ago I'll tell you what I did  
to fix it and I sure can't say why. After hours of frustration  
reinstalling the systems and verifying the drive in an external  
box on other machines it turned out to be a file that's called  
frame work. I had to actually manually reinstall it. I don't know  
if this applies to your system. The first thing I would do if you  
can is to check the drive on another machine or say on the FW  
ports of the PM G5.




John, just so happens that I installed the drive into an external  
fw enclosure... it's still kind-of sporadic in behavior, the first  
time I put a cd in in, it would not mount on the desktop, but..  
when I opened the drawer, then closed it (with the cd inside), then  
it mounted fine? weird huh? I just bought (arrived today) 2 pioneer  
118's from newegg... installed one in the pmg5... I had 2 kernal  
panics... restarted a couple times... tried to pram reset and for  
some reason I could only get one chime? strange... I also got a new  
wireless board and magic mouse today too, maybe there's a glitch in  
the wireless stuff... belkin bluetooth module? hmmm



You have some of the PPC Leopard voodo I ask about sometimes, Like  
Disk Utility Restore feature not working in 10.5.8 on PPCs G5 and  
G4?? But it sure works in 10.4.11.



AFAIK the Pioneer 188L drives walk on water that's what I have in all  
my machines and externals. I do have a problem with two FW ports in  
my PM G5 the one on the front panel and one in the back, The 800 FW  
works fine. The deal with the drawer closing to get it to read is  
what I run into sometimes on the externals, nothing to worry about.  
To be sure I would reinstall 10.5.8. Leopard is not as stable in the  
PPCs I don't care what others say I know it because my PMs are dual  
boot and when the chips are down with the opticals burning and  
ripping I seem to save the day with Tiger. But I really like Toast 10  
and it only runs in 10.5.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
from my Wallstreet G4



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Re: G5 iMac

2010-06-29 Thread Dana Collins
On 6/29/10 6:59 PM, Mark Sokolovsky of coolmar...@gmail.com sent

 5 blue LED fans and a hydrogen cooled system is in there =)

Ohhh, BLUE LED lights, well, no wonder :-)

Dana


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