Re: Easy way to monitor network traffic?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Dan wrote:

> At 8:20 PM -0800 12/13/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
>> I there a way that I can easily monitor my network traffic on my home LAN 
>> preferably without using the terminal? with a 3rd party software?
> 
> Define "monitor"... Do you mean general throughput or packet sniffing?
> To/from your computer or on your entire LAN? 
> 

Yes, to/from on the entire LAN...

Jeff

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Easy way to monitor network traffic?

[Dan]

At 8:20 PM -0800 12/13/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
I there a way that I can easily monitor my network traffic on my 
home LAN preferably without using the terminal? with a 3rd party 
software?


Define "monitor"... Do you mean general throughput or packet sniffing?
To/from your computer or on your entire LAN?

- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: List Mom request-sorry, again

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Dana Collins wrote:

> On 12/12/10 11:26 PM, Charles Lenington of macso...@brightok.net sent
>
> > On 12/12/10 1:30 PM, DLC wrote:
> >> *sigh* Hi all,
> >> Sorry to be so thick about this, but I can't yet see how to get a hold
> >> of specific List moms for a specific group list (I can get to Dan, but
> >> how does one contact the specific list mom, or know who to reach?). I
> >> am having specific difficulties with the Swap list and know not who to
> >> reach.
> >> Thank you in advance, my apologies for having to post the problem via
> >> this group.
> >> Regards,
> >> Dana
> >>
> > Have you tried going to the web page for the group? Also there is
> lemlists
> >
> > 
> >
> > a discussion group for problems, etc on all LEM lists.
> >
>
> Hi Charles,
> Thank you for chiming in, this link is good to know; I appreciate it.
> I had not realized how (surprisingly) difficult it is to get a direct hail
> to a list nanny! The issue is not yet resolved, but s-l-o-w-l-y progress is
> being made. This link looks helpful indeed.
> Regards,
> Dana
> __
>

When LEM List was suggested ( oh, so kindly, rotflmao) as a venue it was
also revealed to be the doorway to nowhere.

Look at the group page. the last post was April 28th.

And now it is oh so kindly suggested by a lister again.

Not in the LEM tradition in my book.



-- 
Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
fluxstrin...@gmail.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/
http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications
http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/
http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Easy way to monitor network traffic?

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

> I there a way that I can easily monitor my network traffic on my home LAN 
> preferably without using the terminal? with a 3rd party software?

Probably not.  If the LAN is via a switch (which includes the one built into 
routers) then you can only see traffic to your machine and broadcast traffic.  
Regular traffic (the packets requesting a web page and the response back from 
the server for example) go only between the router and the machine making the 
request.  

Older 10BaseT-only wiring tended to use hubs which sent all packets out to all 
ports.  With a hub it was possible to monitor all the traffic.

There are some tools to monitor wireless traffic but I'm not familiar with 
those.

Higher end switches allow you to do some monitoring but that's not available in 
typical SOHO equipment.

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Easy way to monitor network traffic?

[Jeffrey Engle]

I there a way that I can easily monitor my network traffic on my home LAN 
preferably without using the terminal? with a 3rd party software?

Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Password protect

[Dan]

At 2:39 PM -0800 12/13/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
Well I want others to be able to use my account but be restricted to 
certain drives, I need a solution similar to the password 
requirement to install software.


Do a Get Info on your boot volume and examine the permissions. 
Notice that it's owned by system and that others have only read 
access.  Take away that read access, and you no gots access into the 
drive without authenticating...


Do the same to those drives you want to protect.

The key is to make sure YOU don't own the drive!  That way it takes 
authentication to change the permissions back...


- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Password protect

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:39 PM, John Carmonne wrote:

> 
> On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Yersinia wrote:
> 
>> On 12/13/10 4:36 PM, John Carmonne wrote:
>>> On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Dan wrote:
>>> 
 At 9:44 AM -0800 12/12/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
> I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 
> drives and I want to block access to three of them.
> Can I do this?
 Block access to whom/what? and for what purpose?
 
>>> If I let people use my computer I don't want them to have  access to all 
>>> the HDD's on the particular machine. It's easy to do it with an external, 
>>> just turn if off but an internal is different.
>> 
>> Curiously, can't you do a Get Info on the HDDs you don't want others to use 
>> and set the permissions for "no access" (except for yourself, of course?) Or 
>> if there are particular people to whom you habitually grant access to your 
>> computer, make accounts for them and set it up so only YOUR account can 
>> access those HDDs you want to keep private for yourself only -- or set up a 
>> generic account for 'anyone who wants to use my G5' to which you give them 
>> the password, and from which those HDDs are not accessible?
>> 
> Well I want others to be able to use my account but be restricted to certain 
> drives, I need a solution similar to the password requirement to install 
> software.


That's exactly what Yersinia and I have been talking about.  If you set the 
drive to use permissions then you can make your user account the owner and set 
the permissions as you'd like them, including restricting other users to have 
no access.

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Password protect

[John Carmonne]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Yersinia wrote:

> On 12/13/10 4:36 PM, John Carmonne wrote:
>> On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Dan wrote:
>> 
>>> At 9:44 AM -0800 12/12/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
 I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 
 drives and I want to block access to three of them.
 Can I do this?
>>> Block access to whom/what? and for what purpose?
>>> 
>> If I let people use my computer I don't want them to have  access to all the 
>> HDD's on the particular machine. It's easy to do it with an external, just 
>> turn if off but an internal is different.
> 
> Curiously, can't you do a Get Info on the HDDs you don't want others to use 
> and set the permissions for "no access" (except for yourself, of course?) Or 
> if there are particular people to whom you habitually grant access to your 
> computer, make accounts for them and set it up so only YOUR account can 
> access those HDDs you want to keep private for yourself only -- or set up a 
> generic account for 'anyone who wants to use my G5' to which you give them 
> the password, and from which those HDDs are not accessible?
> 
Well I want others to be able to use my account but be restricted to certain 
drives, I need a solution similar to the password requirement to install 
software.
 
John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP




-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Password protect

[Jonas Ulrich]

You could place a pasword protected disk image that is the size of the
hard drive, on the hard drive and put everything in there. It's
essentially a pasword protected hard drive

-Jonas

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: List Mom request-sorry, again

[Dana Collins]

On 12/12/10 11:26 PM, Charles Lenington of macso...@brightok.net sent

> On 12/12/10 1:30 PM, DLC wrote:
>> *sigh* Hi all,
>> Sorry to be so thick about this, but I can't yet see how to get a hold
>> of specific List moms for a specific group list (I can get to Dan, but
>> how does one contact the specific list mom, or know who to reach?). I
>> am having specific difficulties with the Swap list and know not who to
>> reach.
>> Thank you in advance, my apologies for having to post the problem via
>> this group.
>> Regards,
>> Dana
>> 
> Have you tried going to the web page for the group? Also there is lemlists
> 
> 
> 
> a discussion group for problems, etc on all LEM lists.
> 

Hi Charles,
Thank you for chiming in, this link is good to know; I appreciate it.
I had not realized how (surprisingly) difficult it is to get a direct hail
to a list nanny! The issue is not yet resolved, but s-l-o-w-l-y progress is
being made. This link looks helpful indeed.
Regards,
Dana


-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: How Do MS Office Licenses Work?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
> On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:20 PM, t...@io.com wrote:
> 
>> I am thinking about purchasing a used copy of MS Office 2004 for my
>> MDD, however, I'm wondering how the licenses work.
> 
> Do not bother, just get Libre Office:
> 
> 
> 
> (Hallelujah! They were listening to me! The PPC versions finally has equal 
> billing with the Intel version! Hoorah!)
> 
> Perfectly compatible with MS Office and has a more 'Office-like' interface 
> than even Office does today.

Just to clear up misapprehension I've run into offlist: Open Office, as of 
version 3.0, has a full Mac-Native Aqua interface, no X11 needed anymore.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: How Do MS Office Licenses Work?

[JoeTaxpayer]

I have a legit copy of Office on my MDD. When I put it on a second
machine (another MDD) it installed just fine, but I'm permitted to
only run it on one machine at a time.
I'm not complaining, just answering your question. If I upgrade, I'll
get the family pack like I did with Leopard and iWork.

On Dec 13, 2:20 pm, "t...@io.com"  wrote:
> I am thinking about purchasing a used copy of MS Office 2004 for my
> MDD, however, I'm wondering how the licenses work.
>
> I've heard that on some MS products, (Windows?) the machine actually
> must connect to the internet and register the license with MS and then
> the license is stuck to that particular hardware (by MAC address?) and
> one cannot use any other machines with that license.
>
> So two questions.  Are they using a similar scheme with Office 2004
> for the Mac?  Wouldn't that make a used copy of office pretty useless,
> if true?
>
> Of course, I may have misunderstood the whole thing.  Kind of hoping I
> have.
>
> Jeff Walther

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Password protect

[Yersinia]

 On 12/13/10 4:36 PM, John Carmonne wrote:

On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Dan wrote:


At 9:44 AM -0800 12/12/2010, John Carmonne wrote:

I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 drives 
and I want to block access to three of them.
Can I do this?

Block access to whom/what? and for what purpose?


If I let people use my computer I don't want them to have  access to all the 
HDD's on the particular machine. It's easy to do it with an external, just turn 
if off but an internal is different.


Curiously, can't you do a Get Info on the HDDs you don't want others to 
use and set the permissions for "no access" (except for yourself, of 
course?) Or if there are particular people to whom you habitually grant 
access to your computer, make accounts for them and set it up so only 
YOUR account can access those HDDs you want to keep private for yourself 
only -- or set up a generic account for 'anyone who wants to use my G5' 
to which you give them the password, and from which those HDDs are not 
accessible?


~Yersinia.

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Password protect

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:36 PM, John Carmonne wrote:

> 
> On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Dan wrote:
> 
>> At 9:44 AM -0800 12/12/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
>>> I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 
>>> drives and I want to block access to three of them.
>>> Can I do this?
>> 
>> Block access to whom/what? and for what purpose?
>> 
> If I let people use my computer I don't want them to have  access to all the 
> HDD's on the particular machine. It's easy to do it with an external, just 
> turn if off but an internal is different.


Set up permissions as appropriate.
You'll need to do Get Info on each drive and ensure they are set to use 
permissions.


Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Password protect

[John Carmonne]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Dan wrote:

> At 9:44 AM -0800 12/12/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
>> I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 
>> drives and I want to block access to three of them.
>> Can I do this?
> 
> Block access to whom/what? and for what purpose?
> 
If I let people use my computer I don't want them to have  access to all the 
HDD's on the particular machine. It's easy to do it with an external, just turn 
if off but an internal is different.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP




-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Password protect

[Dan]

At 9:44 AM -0800 12/12/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 
5 drives and I want to block access to three of them.

Can I do this?


Block access to whom/what? and for what purpose?

Are you talking about blocking access from other non-admin users or ?

I put sensitive data in encrypted sparse disk images.  That way you 
have to have enough permission to get to the disk image file in the 
first place *plus* you have to have the password to mount the thing. 
(Helps to NOT stash the password in Keychain, of course).


- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: How Do MS Office Licenses Work?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 11:20 AM, t...@io.com wrote:

> I am thinking about purchasing a used copy of MS Office 2004 for my
> MDD, however, I'm wondering how the licenses work.
> 
> I've heard that on some MS products, (Windows?) the machine actually
> must connect to the internet and register the license with MS and then
> the license is stuck to that particular hardware (by MAC address?) and
> one cannot use any other machines with that license.
> 
> So two questions.  Are they using a similar scheme with Office 2004
> for the Mac?  Wouldn't that make a used copy of office pretty useless,
> if true?
> 
> Of course, I may have misunderstood the whole thing.  Kind of hoping I
> have.
> 
> Jeff Walther
> 

Jeff,  IF you own the software license (the disk, retail that comes from MS) 
you own the rights to it. Just make sure that when you buy it, it comes with 
the license orange/yellow sticker on the CD envelope that has any and all 
serial numbers on it. Jeff

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: How Do MS Office Licenses Work?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:20 PM, t...@io.com wrote:

> I am thinking about purchasing a used copy of MS Office 2004 for my
> MDD, however, I'm wondering how the licenses work.

Do not bother, just get Libre Office:



(Hallelujah! They were listening to me! The PPC versions finally has equal 
billing with the Intel version! Hoorah!)

Perfectly compatible with MS Office and has a more 'Office-like' interface than 
even Office does today.


-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

How Do MS Office Licenses Work?

[t...@io.com]

I am thinking about purchasing a used copy of MS Office 2004 for my
MDD, however, I'm wondering how the licenses work.

I've heard that on some MS products, (Windows?) the machine actually
must connect to the internet and register the license with MS and then
the license is stuck to that particular hardware (by MAC address?) and
one cannot use any other machines with that license.

So two questions.  Are they using a similar scheme with Office 2004
for the Mac?  Wouldn't that make a used copy of office pretty useless,
if true?

Of course, I may have misunderstood the whole thing.  Kind of hoping I
have.

Jeff Walther

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

RJ45 Aggravations

[smac0031]

I use the B setup.

I always thought you were supposed the B setup for the straight
through cables and one end A and the other B for a cross over cable.

My problem is with the connections.

I clip the wires down and from what I understand when you get a click
and the excess wire falls off you have your connection.

I have a little circuit tester which tests each pair in sequence. 1&2,
3&6, 4&5, and 7&8. If the little lights come on in sequence the cable
is good. If they are not in sequence its wired wrong. If one or more
of the lights doesn't come on there is not connection.

My problem is the most I can get is three of the pairs. I don't know
what I'm doing wrong. The wall connectors are a lot harder to get to
work than male connectors.

I've gone through an entire package of ten of these connectors and I
can't get any of them to work.

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: MacPorts and Facebook

[Paul Stamsen]

Previously, at 3:47 AM -0800 12/13/10,  as yawg  so eloquently wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Apparently some phishy things are going on on Facebook now. This is a
>screenshot of my son's FB and normally he is my guy in the know,
>sitting in front of his PeeCee almost 24/7 ...
>
>http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=478584562551&set=a.44263812551.52532.610327551


"This content is currently unavailable"

oops

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

[James Therrault]

On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:




On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Kris Tilford   
wrote:

Previously, Alex Barnes  so eloquently wrote:
The thing must've had terrible gas milage.

Paul Stamsen replied:

No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less!

Nope! We want to party like it's 1999 again.




My own rule of thumb from lifelong observation and real world  
buying power of the dollar is that gas at $ 2.90 a gallon is equal  
to about about $0.32 in 1970 dollars.  The only thing that makes  
gas seem expensive to me is the low amount I can buy with a measely  
retirement income.



And the guv'ment COLA on the SS portion sure doesn't reflect the real  
picture, eh?


JT




Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance
If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program
http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d0647c6913a7ee812st05vuc

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

[James Therrault]

On Dec 12, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


Previously, Alex Barnes  so eloquently wrote:
The thing must've had terrible gas milage.


Paul Stamsen replied:
No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less!


Nope! We want to party like it's 1999 again.




Ahhh. yes!

Back in them thar' days, 1997), when my 'puter was a Power Computing  
Power Tower 166 with a whoppin' 4GB drive and loaded with 256MB RAM  
that I bought for a "measly" $1,700 (factory refurb sale at the old  
Palmer Auditorium, I was in hawg heaven.


That year I had refurbished an old Studebaker Lark four door with the  
venerable bullet proof 259 V8 which I had the timing cranked way up  
'cause premium gas was only 98¢.  Damned that thang would fly!


Now the daily driver is an '82 Honda Civic 1500 DX automatic that,  
well, er...  gets around 35mpg.


G4 gigabit will be ten years old next month so I see a (used) Intel  
Mac Mini as a replacement on its anniversary...


JT

(Not in the fast lane anymore, "just steady as she goes.")




Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance
If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program
http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d064734c3f09787ad2st01vuc

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: MacPorts and Facebook

[yawg]

Hi,

Apparently some phishy things are going on on Facebook now. This is a
screenshot of my son's FB and normally he is my guy in the know,
sitting in front of his PeeCee almost 24/7 ...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=478584562551&set=a.44263812551.52532.610327551

Cheers, Jörg.

On 13 dec, 13:39, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" 
wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Tina K.  wrote:
> > On 2010/12/12 12:36, James Therrault so eloquently wrote:
>
> >> While I don't do social sites, I sure like Little Snitch.
>
> > You hear about Facebook's security transgressions regarding their members
> > from time to time, but Facebook's activities outside of their own domain
> > seem to get little notice.
>
> > There was a time when some people thought the only use for Little Snitch
> > was for pirating sw, but I'm sure glad to have it in this day of personal
> > information harvesting and theft.
>
> Unfortunately as CNET pointed out last November the 19th, despite people
> thinking and firmly believing their systems are sacrosanct because they are
> not Facebook members their info is most likely compromised anyway.
>
> If you are firmly secure in your web surfing in general you have nothing to
> fear from Facebook. And conversely if you are sloppy or careless you should
> not even be opening a browser.
>
> Facebook is the least of your worries.
>
> --
> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
> fluxstrin...@gmail.comhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringerhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunicationshttp://flux-influx.blogspot.com/http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list