Re: Posting Problem
At 6:21 AM -0800 2/23/2011, Don Wakefield wrote: I am a member of several of these lists and have developed a problem on one of the other lists. Namely the Leopard List. No great loss, frankly. :\ That list hasn't gotten over 100 messages/month in a year+. G3-5 is where we be! http://groups.google.com/group/leopardlist says Discussions aren't available right now. We're sorry. Try again shortly. and has said that every time I've visited the group over the past month. The view all link works, however. My posts never seem to appear. When you visit http://groups.google.com/ and sign in, does it list the group? When you visit the group itself, does it say you're a member? I have searched for a method of reaching the list mom and to no avail. The front page of the group says The full list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/leopard.html; On that page it says Please report any subscription problems to the group owner at List Mom . (doncha love gotos!) And List Mom is a link pointing to lowend...@gmail.com. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?
Not true. I direct your attention to: http://lowendmac.com/musings/07/0522.html an article titled 3 CPU Upgrades for Mirror Drive Door G4 Power Macs where Dan Knight wrote: I sent emails to Sonnet Technology, Newer Technology, FastMac, and Daystar Technology asking: 'I've wondered myself for some time, as the owner of a Mirror Drive Door Power Mac G4 (the original OS 9-bootable dual 1 GHz one) why there seem to be no CPU upgrades for the last two generations of G4 Power Macs ...' Martin Muggee, Marketing Communications Manager at Sonnet Technologies, wrote: 'At this time ... we have offered dual 7447A processor-based upgrades, available in 1.6 and 1.8 GHz upgrades (Encore/MDX G4 Duet) since October last year ...' The 1.6 GHz ... and the 1.8 GHz ... both use the PowerPC 7447A CPU, which has a 512 MB level 2 cache - twice as large as in the PowerPC 7455 used in my Power Mac. At a minimum, the 1.6 GHz one should provide 60% more processing power than my dual 1 GHz Power Mac already has ... At the time he was writing this, Dan had the exact same model MDD I now have. Also, I should note that the ebay auction stated: Applies to Following Computers: Power Macintosh G3 (Blue White) and Power Mac G4 (all models) not that I would put a lot of faith in what an ebay ad description says ... PS - At this point, both of the units offered in the auction have been sold - but not to me. Bruce - in Orlando On Feb 22, 12:56�pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I believe that the upgrade which the original poster linked to does not support the MDD. �At least, the item description seemed to list all the G4s except the MDD. That board is specifically for 133 MHz bus machines ... DAs or QSes. Giga-Designs had a board which was specifically designed for either 100 MHz or 133 MHz bus machines. The fan unit could be moved to accommodate the different mounting requirements found on the two different models (100 MHz and 133 MHz). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
[Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
On Feb 23, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Don Wakefield wrote: Sorry if this stretches the rules a bit, but some direction would be greatly appreciated. I am a member of several of these lists and have developed a problem on one of the other lists. Namely the Leopard List. My posts never seem to appear. I have searched for a method of reaching the list mom and to no avail. After several failed posts, a resign, a subsequent re apply, and even sending a post with the title For List Mom still have heard or seen nothing. I have compared my preferences and settings of both lists and can find no significant difference. My question is either: does anybody have a suggestion as to what might be taking place? or can anybody advise me of how to direct my troubles to the appropriate list mom of record? I personally approved the above message for posting here, as information for members of the G-Group, although with some regret. Until Lion is released in the coming months, Leopard and Snow Leopard are the current and latest Mac OS. It makes good sense for members of the G-Group to join our Leopard Group to seek or provide assistance. For quite some time, I have made suggestions to numerous members that they do so. Unfortunately, all of them have informed me that they are unable to post there, as Don has discovered. Most of you are aware that, in order to prevent spam messages, all new subscribers to any LEM Group, including the Leopard Group, are subject to initial moderation, until cleared by a Group Manager (formerly List Nanny). There are two Managers for the Leopard Group, including the Group Owner (List Mom), who is a de facto manager of all LEM Groups. Neither has acted to approve messages from new subscribers for quite a long time. Under the Google Group setup, no one else is in a position to do so. As a long-time subscriber to most LEM Groups, and a Manager for six Groups, I myself have been unable to post to a relatively new Group because of a similar situation there, the absence of a responsible working Manager. With apology to Don and others, but helpless Fabian Fang LEM G-Group Manager -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: Until Lion is released in the coming months, Leopard and Snow Leopard are the current and latest Mac OS. It makes good sense for members of the G-Group to join our Leopard Group to seek or provide assistance. Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents. No it does not. Looking at the posting rates and subscriber numbers of all these myriad LEM lists, it's very clear that almost all of the actual action is in just a handful of lists. Continual splitting of groups into finer and finer-grained buckets merely serves to dilute possible support and makes it very hard to find answers; I cannot count how many times I've seen someone ask a question on one list that was JUST ANSWERED, in great and satisfactory detail, on another list. I like to analogize the current state of the LEM lists to the 'Performa' years at Apple I have a perfoma 624a! Well I have a Performa 634...and it's a completely different machine! When Steve Jobs came back to Apple he reduced the model count to 4: PowerMac and PowerBook, iMac and iBook. That was the beginning of the resurgence, and for a good reason...it instantly clarified and simplified the choices. If I were king of the forest, all these myriad LEM lists would be reduced to a handful: 68K Macs (both laptop and desktops, because these are waaay obsolete by now.) OldWorld Macs (PowerPC old world machines, both laptops and desktops as above.) PowerPC desktops (covering pci-based PowerMacs from the iMac and beige 60x and G3 models up through the G5 models, both PowerMac and iMac.) PowerPC laptops (covering all New World Powerbooks and iBooks) Intel desktops (covering all intel-based desktop systems Mac Pros and iMacs) Intel laptops (covering all models of MacBook.) LEMSwap (of course!) There is NO REASON to ghettoize OS discussion into it's own groups; particularly as there are often hardware-specific issues along with the question, and as often as not there are questions like 'I need a web cam, what's a good suggestion?' That's not really tied to any hardware or software; so you would ask it on the list for your particular Mac. With fewer groups, we'd get more subscribers, and more eyeballs, on the problems. We'd have less duplication, and better answers for everyone. In practice, this really is happening already, the G3-5 group is the main generalist group now, as the PCIPowerMacs group used to be long ago, along with MacIntel and possibly the iMac group (which imo irrationally mixes cpu platforms.) I think that it would be far simpler to manage from the list nanny standpoint (you could have more nannies on each list) and make it a lot easier for folks to find the correct groups to join. (note, this is also a major reason many web forums are failing at this kind of support because there are so damn many of them at any given site. Even Apple's own support forums are probne to this problem.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: Until Lion is released in the coming months, Leopard and Snow Leopard are the current and latest Mac OS. It makes good sense for members of the G-Group to join our Leopard Group to seek or provide assistance. Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents. No it does not. Looking at the posting rates and subscriber numbers of all these myriad LEM lists, it's very clear that almost all of the actual action is in just a handful of lists. Continual splitting of groups into finer and finer-grained buckets merely serves to dilute possible support and makes it very hard to find answers; I cannot count how many times I've seen someone ask a question on one list that was JUST ANSWERED, in great and satisfactory detail, on another list. A, the calming voice of reason! I happen to agree wholeheartedly. Chuck Davis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
On 2011/02/23 10:06, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: If I were king of the forest, all these myriad LEM lists would be reduced to a handful: 68K Macs (both laptop and desktops, because these are waaay obsolete by now.) OldWorld Macs (PowerPC old world machines, both laptops and desktops as above.) PowerPC desktops (covering pci-based PowerMacs from the iMac and beige 60x and G3 models up through the G5 models, both PowerMac and iMac.) PowerPC laptops(covering all New World Powerbooks and iBooks) Intel desktops (covering all intel-based desktop systems Mac Pros and iMacs) Intel laptops (covering all models of MacBook.) LEMSwap (of course!) Sounds logical to me, you have my vote (not that this is a democracy). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
On Feb 23, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: Until Lion is released in the coming months, Leopard and Snow Leopard are the current and latest Mac OS. It makes good sense for members of the G-Group to join our Leopard Group to seek or provide assistance. Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents. No it does not. Looking at the posting rates and subscriber numbers of all these myriad LEM lists, it's very clear that almost all of the actual action is in just a handful of lists. Continual splitting of groups into finer and finer-grained buckets merely serves to dilute possible support and makes it very hard to find answers; I cannot count how many times I've seen someone ask a question on one list that was JUST ANSWERED, in great and satisfactory detail, on another list. I like to analogize the current state of the LEM lists to the 'Performa' years at Apple I have a perfoma 624a! Well I have a Performa 634...and it's a completely different machine! When Steve Jobs came back to Apple he reduced the model count to 4: PowerMac and PowerBook, iMac and iBook. That was the beginning of the resurgence, and for a good reason...it instantly clarified and simplified the choices. If I were king of the forest, all these myriad LEM lists would be reduced to a handful: 68K Macs (both laptop and desktops, because these are waaay obsolete by now.) OldWorld Macs (PowerPC old world machines, both laptops and desktops as above.) PowerPC desktops (covering pci-based PowerMacs from the iMac and beige 60x and G3 models up through the G5 models, both PowerMac and iMac.) PowerPC laptops (covering all New World Powerbooks and iBooks) Intel desktops (covering all intel-based desktop systems Mac Pros and iMacs) Intel laptops (covering all models of MacBook.) LEMSwap (of course!) I'd even cut it some more but that's a great start! 1. 68K of all flavors 2. Pre G Power Macs of all flavors 3. G Power Macs of all flavors 4. Intel Macs of all flavors 5. Software group maybe Consolidation always results in greater efficiencies. After spending a good part of my life working with process(s), simplification is always the quickest route to solutions. Just my 4¢ worth... JT -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
I am subscribed to 8 and I am finding it an administrative nightmare organising them in a way that keeps me up to date but doesn't fill my inbox up. I haven't decided on the best approach as yet. Is 'forum' a dirty word in LEM land? Jonathan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
Out of the box, OS X (Tiger thru SL) can read NTFS (windows native file system). This product lets you read *and write* to NTFS volumes! And today, it's FREE! http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/ The regular product page: http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/ Enjoy! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote: I am subscribed to 8 and I am finding it an administrative nightmare organising them in a way that keeps me up to date but doesn't fill my inbox up. I haven't decided on the best approach as yet. Is 'forum' a dirty word in LEM land? I personally dislike forums, I end up spending half my time trying to find actual information among the hopping smileys, giant avatars, unnecessary screen candy, having to guess at which page of 345 the actual answer to my question is on, and the generally piss-poor search and organization of nearly every forum site I've ever had the misfortune of trying to use. That said, LEM DOES have forums. The great thing about Google Groups is that you can swing whichever way suits your fancy: subscribe to them as individual emails, subscribe to them as digests, or not get them as email at all, but as a forum on the groups.google.com site. Just log in with the address associated with your delivery address (in your case it would just be logging in with your regular gmail credentials) and you're taken to the web interface to the groups. Voila! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
On 2011/02/23 10:36, Jonathan Smith so eloquently wrote: I am subscribed to 8 and I am finding it an administrative nightmare organising them in a way that keeps me up to date but doesn't fill my inbox up. I haven't decided on the best approach as yet. I use filters to sort them into the mailboxes CPU, Notebooks, OS, and Swap. Works pretty good for me, hopefully you can come up with a method that works for you too. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Dan wrote: Out of the box, OS X (Tiger thru SL) can read NTFS (windows native file system). This product lets you read *and write* to NTFS volumes! And today, it's FREE! http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/ How does that compare to NTFS3G http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ ? Also they're giving away their HFS+ product for Windows, too. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents. Please note that, in the above subject line, my message was in response to a request for explanation of the posting problem to our Leopard Group. For other discussions, please start your own threads. I have no knowledge as to whether the LEM Group Owner reads messages on the G-Group, or any other group. He is the sole Decider with respect to setting up LEM Groups. Over the years, on our internal lemnannies group, there have been discussions and suggestions about combination/realignment of groups. There has been no indication whatsoever, whether he feels any such merits consideration or action. Those who have strong feelings against our splintered LEM Groups can always unsubscribe and join a single All Things Mac group, such as the IOMUG Yahoo Group, to which I personally subscribe. I predict that you will soon want to return here. Fabian Fang LEM G-Group Manager -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
At 10:48 AM -0700 2/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Dan wrote: Out of the box, OS X (Tiger thru SL) can read NTFS (windows native file system). This product lets you read *and write* to NTFS volumes! And today, it's FREE! http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/ How does that compare to NTFS3G http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ ? No idea, but I'm guessing that it might be far superior to this Paragon product. At this point, my zeal for Paragon has waned. Their installer is apparently broken. I got past its registration panes and am now stuck with a dimmed Install button. Also they're giving away their HFS+ product for Windows, too. Well, if this the same quality as this Mac installer... maybe FREE is about the right price?! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
At 10:12 AM -0800 2/23/2011, Fabian Fang wrote: I have no knowledge as to whether the LEM Group Owner reads messages on the G-Group, or any other group. He is the sole Decider with respect to setting up LEM Groups. Over the years, on our internal lemnannies group, there have been discussions and suggestions about combination/realignment of groups. There has been no indication whatsoever, whether he feels any such merits consideration or action. Those who have strong feelings against our splintered LEM Groups can always unsubscribe and join a single All Things Mac group, such as the IOMUG Yahoo Group, to which I personally subscribe. I predict that you will soon want to return here. Are you saying that lemdan isn't going to address this issue, so we should just go create a new structure ourselves then encourage people to join it? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
At 10:06 AM -0700 2/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents. Um, yea. My 2 cents also: what Bruce said. If I were king of the forest, all these myriad LEM lists would be reduced to a handful: 68K Macs (both laptop and desktops, because these are waaay obsolete by now.) OldWorld Macs (PowerPC old world machines, both laptops and desktops as above.) PowerPC desktops (covering pci-based PowerMacs from the iMac and beige 60x and G3 models up through the G5 models, both PowerMac and iMac.) PowerPC laptops (covering all New World Powerbooks and iBooks) Intel desktops (covering all intel-based desktop systems Mac Pros and iMacs) Intel laptops (covering all models of MacBook.) LEMSwap (of course!) AND make sure the lists can be searched all at once! Right now, they can't be because even their names have nothing in common. With fewer groups, we'd get more subscribers, and more eyeballs, on the problems. We'd have less duplication, and better answers for everyone. And fewer people simply leaving because they didn't get an answer or a good answer from one of the micro groups. I think that it would be far simpler to manage from the list nanny standpoint (you could have more nannies on each list) and make it a lot easier for folks to find the correct groups to join. (note, this is also a major reason many web forums are failing at this kind of support because there are so damn many of them at any given site. Even Apple's own support forums are probne to this problem.) At 11:22 AM -0600 2/23/2011, James E. Therrault wrote: 1. 68K of all flavors 2. Pre G Power Macs of all flavors 3. G Power Macs of all flavors 4. Intel Macs of all flavors 5. Software group maybe Too many groups, I think. 1. LEM Mac Hardware 2. LEM Mac Software 3. LEM Swap 4. LEM Everything Else (chatting and such) ...and to be honest I'm iffy about 1 2; thinking that should just be one big happy froup. At 5:36 PM + 2/23/2011, Jonathan Smith wrote: I am subscribed to 8 and I am finding it an administrative nightmare organising them in a way that keeps me up to date but doesn't fill my inbox up. I haven't decided on the best approach as yet. I'm subscribed to them all. IMO the best way to handle them is to just not try to sort them, other than by subject. They're so intermixed anyway, creating or maintaining any segregation in your mail client just wastes time and inhibits searching. I filter all the LEM stuff en-mass into one mailbox, and the Swap stuff in another. Then I tackle it top down. Done. Is 'forum' a dirty word in LEM land? IMO, it's a dirty word period, on par with top posting. Forum = web based thing for newbies that are too delicate to handle real email, designed to be pretty, not efficient. I can blow thru 200 emails in the time it takes me deal with a couple forum postings. (Insert standard obligatory rant about how top posting slows down the whole process). FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
I'd even cut it some more but that's a great start! 1. 68K of all flavors 2. Pre G Power Macs of all flavors 3. G Power Macs of all flavors 4. Intel Macs of all flavors 5. Software group maybe Consolidation always results in greater efficiencies. After spending a good part of my life working with process(s), simplification is always the quickest route to solutions. Just my 4¢ worth... JT I would cut it even further considering most people use the g3-g5 list server anyhow. I would make it thus: 1. LEM Support List 2. Lem Swap List 3. Lem Swap Feedback -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
On Feb 23, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:48 AM -0700 2/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Dan wrote: Out of the box, OS X (Tiger thru SL) can read NTFS (windows native file system). This product lets you read *and write* to NTFS volumes! And today, it's FREE! http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/ How does that compare to NTFS3G http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ ? No idea, but I'm guessing that it might be far superior to this Paragon product. At this point, my zeal for Paragon has waned. Their installer is apparently broken. I got past its registration panes and am now stuck with a dimmed Install button. Bleah. Think I'll hold off. So far I've been happy with the the open source NTFS-3G, although it's oftimes very slow to mount a volume. However that may be because as a rule, the NTFS volumes I mount are out of troubled systems and have ALWAYS been shut down dirty. I think it's taking some time to time out before asking me to force mount it. Once it does read/writes are reasonably fast; since, in general I'm just copying files off a hdd to the network via a ATA/SATA-USB adapter, I'm not entirely sure where the bottleneck is. I've had Windows force a disk check upon remounting a drive I've read or written to occasionally...again, since I'm only ever dealing with sick windows systems, I'm not sure if it's due to NTFS-3G or the underlying issues with the disk. Also they're giving away their HFS+ product for Windows, too. Well, if this the same quality as this Mac installer... maybe FREE is about the right price?! Well, I'll load it onto my Windows VM and see what it does. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: So far I've been happy with the the open source NTFS-3G, although it's oftimes very slow to mount a volume. I suspect the slowness may be on purpose? After all, they splintered off Tuxera NTFS for Mac from NTFS-3G and make the claim that if you pay for Tuxera you'll get much improved performance and speed. I used Paragon on a Snow Leopard hackintosh and was very happy with performance, it was a little quicker to mount volumes than NTFS-G3, and MUCH quicker than whatever I'm using to mount Ubuntu Ext3 or Ext4 volumes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
Dan, thanks for the hint! I downloaded both Paragon NTFS 4 Mac and HFS+ for Win. I tried them inside a vm environment (VirtualBox) on vmWindows XP SP3 (32-bit) and on vmMac OS X 10.5 (a Hackintosh version) and both installed fine. I can now mount a HFS+ volume from inside vmWindows XP and a NTFS partition from inside vmMac OS X. I cannot say they're slow. But then, my machine is very fast. Maybe I'll later try the Paragon NTFS driver on my real Mac, but I doubt that because I don't wont to mess up my installation. I use the free (open source) NTFS-3G from Tuxera and don't see it being too slow for me. The G4 Quicksilver Dual-800 in general seems to be slow, especially when I've just worked with my PC (which is a 3.2 GHz Hexa-Core AMD). Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Browsers
Recently I tried using Camino as my primary browser and found it to be excruciatingly slow, pages that other browsers load in seconds take about a minute (or more) to load in Camino. Has anyone else noticed this? The reason I tried using Camino is because I'm a little low on RAM and OmniWeb uses over 1GB by the end of the day. Today I'm trying Safari and it's already up to 718MB, is this just the nature of WebKit? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
At 9:15 PM +0100 2/23/2011, Mac User #330250 wrote: Dan, thanks for the hint! I downloaded both Paragon NTFS 4 Mac and HFS+ for Win. I tried them inside a vm environment (VirtualBox) on vmWindows XP SP3 (32-bit) and on vmMac OS X 10.5 (a Hackintosh version) and both installed fine. Good to know it works for someone! I'm still stuck at the dimmed Install button. And Paragon's not been tweeting for the past 9 hrs (6am my time). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Dan wrote: I'm still stuck at the dimmed Install button I pushed the back button and then went foreword and that fixed it for some reason Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Browsers
On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Tina K. wrote: Recently I tried using Camino as my primary browser and found it to be excruciatingly slow, pages that other browsers load in seconds take about a minute (or more) to load in Camino. Has anyone else noticed this? The reason I tried using Camino is because I'm a little low on RAM and OmniWeb uses over 1GB by the end of the day. Today I'm trying Safari and it's already up to 718MB, is this just the nature of WebKit? yes it is..some versions are better than others, but Safari luuurves it's RAM. Right now it's using 440MB real, 550 virtual on my system with one really plain-jane html page open (pure text, just a table full of links and a form). (I'm using Safari 5.0.3 on 10.6). I quit safari and opened just that page, and it's using 64megs real and 240 virtual. Best to just get more RAM, if you can. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Dan wrote: At 9:15 PM +0100 2/23/2011, Mac User #330250 wrote: Dan, thanks for the hint! I downloaded both Paragon NTFS 4 Mac and HFS+ for Win. I tried them inside a vm environment (VirtualBox) on vmWindows XP SP3 (32-bit) and on vmMac OS X 10.5 (a Hackintosh version) and both installed fine. Good to know it works for someone! I'm still stuck at the dimmed Install button. And Paragon's not been tweeting for the past 9 hrs (6am my time). One of the netmanagers here (i reposted that link there) is complaining that the serial # Paragon sent him was invalid. Methinks they weren't QUITE prepared for what just hit them. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: One of the netmanagers here (i reposted that link there) is complaining that the serial # Paragon sent him was invalid. Methinks they weren't QUITE prepared for what just hit them. I just pushed the back button and re-entered the serial info again and woohoo! it worked fine. Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X -- free today!
At 1:51 PM -0700 2/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Dan wrote: At 9:15 PM +0100 2/23/2011, Mac User #330250 wrote: I downloaded both Paragon NTFS 4 Mac and HFS+ for Win. I tried them inside a vm environment (VirtualBox) on vmWindows XP SP3 (32-bit) and on vmMac OS X 10.5 (a Hackintosh version) and both installed fine. Good to know it works for someone! I'm still stuck at the dimmed Install button. And Paragon's not been tweeting for the past 9 hrs (6am my time). One of the netmanagers here (i reposted that link there) is complaining that the serial # Paragon sent him was invalid. I quickly discovered that if you paste one of the two numbers they email you into the wrong field, it's not correctable. You have to quit the installer and relaunch. Methinks they weren't QUITE prepared for what just hit them. Yea. I'm puzzled at their choice of using Twitter to provide tech support. I can't imagine doing any quality support in 140 char public blerts. At 12:54 PM -0800 2/23/2011, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I just pushed the back button and re-entered the serial info again and woohoo! it worked fine. Just tried that. No go. :\ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Browsers
Try tenfourfox and see if that helps. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2011, at 15:50, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Tina K. wrote: Recently I tried using Camino as my primary browser and found it to be excruciatingly slow, pages that other browsers load in seconds take about a minute (or more) to load in Camino. Has anyone else noticed this? The reason I tried using Camino is because I'm a little low on RAM and OmniWeb uses over 1GB by the end of the day. Today I'm trying Safari and it's already up to 718MB, is this just the nature of WebKit? yes it is..some versions are better than others, but Safari luuurves it's RAM. Right now it's using 440MB real, 550 virtual on my system with one really plain-jane html page open (pure text, just a table full of links and a form). (I'm using Safari 5.0.3 on 10.6). I quit safari and opened just that page, and it's using 64megs real and 240 virtual. Best to just get more RAM, if you can. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Browsers
Are you using any themes and plugin on camino? flash heavy web browsing? Camino might be hanging onto requested memory. On 23 Feb 2011, at 20:27, Tina K. wrote: Recently I tried using Camino as my primary browser and found it to be excruciatingly slow, pages that other browsers load in seconds take about a minute (or more) to load in Camino. Has anyone else noticed this? The reason I tried using Camino is because I'm a little low on RAM and OmniWeb uses over 1GB by the end of the day. Today I'm trying Safari and it's already up to 718MB, is this just the nature of WebKit? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Browsers
On 2011/02/23 13:50, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote:
{snip} Safari luuurves
it's RAM.
Best to just get more RAM, if you can.
Indeed, I'm saving for it already. Just trying to get by w/o thrashing
the HDD in the meantime, though it is backed up and under warranty! :-)
Tina
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Re: Browsers
On 2011/02/23 14:27, elbert boone so eloquently wrote: Try tenfourfox and see if that helps. Sorry, I should have mentioned this is on my Xeon MP. I don't think it's UB, or SL compatible, but I could be wrong. I did put some recent new acquaintances (and recent Mac converts) on TenFourFox for their PowerBooks and they are quite happy with it! Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Posting Problem
Previously, at 10:06 AM -0700 2/23/11, as Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: Until Lion is released in the coming months, Leopard and Snow Leopard are the current and latest Mac OS. It makes good sense for members of the G-Group to join our Leopard Group to seek or provide assistance. Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents. (snip) If I were king of the forest, all these myriad LEM lists would be reduced to a handful: 68K Macs (both laptop and desktops, because these are waaay obsolete by now.) OldWorld Macs (PowerPC old world machines, both laptops and desktops as above.) PowerPC desktops (covering pci-based PowerMacs from the iMac and beige 60x and G3 models up through the G5 models, both PowerMac and iMac.) PowerPC laptops(covering all New World Powerbooks and iBooks) Intel desktops (covering all intel-based desktop systems Mac Pros and iMacs) Intel laptops (covering all models of MacBook.) LEMSwap (of course!) There is NO REASON to ghettoize OS discussion into it's own groups; particularly as there are often hardware-specific issues along with the question, and as often as not there are questions like 'I need a web cam, what's a good suggestion?' That's not really tied to any hardware or software; so you would ask it on the list for your particular Mac. (snip) I passed the message on to Dan Knight lowend...@gmail.com, which has always served me well in the past. Paul -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Browsers
On 2011/02/23 14:27, elbert boone so eloquently wrote: Try tenfourfox and see if that helps. I should add that Namoroka and Minefield load pages in a timely manner, it seems to be isolated to Camino (2.0.6). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
My DA G4 is Deceased
SW Michigan got hit by a snow and freezing rainstorm Sunday. My power went out and the next afternoon when it came back on my DA G4 would do nothing when you press the power button. I am currently running one of my to the dump computers, a dual processor something or other. I was able to test several of the components from the DA in this Dualie. First of all both HDs both Seagate Barracuda 7200 ATA Ultra's are dead. I tested both of them on a firewire case. When powered up and you hold them to your ear I can hear a very faint clicking, much fainter than on normal power up. I found a seller on eBay that sells circuit boards for these things. It looks like you need to match the batch numbers on the big chips to my drive and have a torx screwdriver and you can swap out the circuit board and copy the data onto another drive. Does anyone have experience with this? Is there any soldering involved? I've used CCC to copy drives before and I have another program that I have used before. I don't think copying the drive will be a problem. The seller wants $39 for these circuit boards. I made a copy of each of these drive to a Seagate 500GB pocket drive last summer. I am currently copying my iTunes files to a drive in this dualie. This is slow. The dualie only has one good usb port and the keyboard is plugged into, so this little usb pocket drive is plugged into the second port on the keyboard. According to the progress bar this has another 13 hours to go. I started yesterday morning. It said 31 hours when I started. I thought usb was faster than that, we are talking 80GB here. I tested the FW800/USB2.0 card in the dualie. When I did it would power on and not boot. The dualie has a 100Mhz MB and the DA had a 133Mhz MB. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be a problem. My conclusion is that the FW/USB card is kaput as well. I haven't tested the USB 2.0 hub. Seeing as how the card it was connected to is most likely fried and my only usb ports are occupied for the foreseeable future, whatever. I am not using my 2.0 keyboard and I will test it with the hub. I am concerned that it might be bad. So far, as near as I can tell the things that are definitely fried are the power supply, the Sonnet Tempo Ultra ATA-133 card, the FW/USB card and both HDs. I still have 3 to the dump G4's. I was thinking about swapping out the power supply from one of them to test the DA to see if it is completely dead. I have a couple of questions. First, the DA has a 133mhz MB and I am not sure about the other G4's, I know they came in both 100 and 133 flavors. Do they require different power supplies or are they swappable? Second, how involved is swapping the power supply? Third, I've noticed that some of the power supplies plug into the center and the others plug into the right side. How important is this? Thanks, If you want to email me off list, that's fine. Mark Murphy -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Posting Problem
On Feb 23, 9:21 am, Don Wakefield dtp...@yahoo.com wrote: My question is either: does anybody have a suggestion as to what might be taking place? or can anybody advise me of how to direct my troubles to the appropriate list mom of record? Yes, send an email directly to Dan Knight. At the netiquette link at the bottom of this list's digest, http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml I see the signature as Dan Knight, list mom. Below that is a contact button where one finds the various methods of sending e-mail to Dan Knight. This includes a link for Email lists. Hit that, and you have a blank template addressed to him. Dan Knight lowend...@gmail.com By the way, I am sending an email to him calling his attention to this thread. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Worth the added cost?
I'm considering upgrading my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz, with a SATA PCI card (Probably Sonnet, since I cannot find Firmtek's). I also want a new SATA Seagate, and see they have an XT 2TB model. Here's the full name: Seagate Barracuda XT 2 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Bare Drive ST32000641AS (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RWJHBM/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) I know it is somewhat of an overkill, as the Sonnet SATA PCI card is a 3Gb/s card, and probably doesn't achieve that in a QS 2002; but it has a 5-Year Warranty, and I rationalize it would last longer since I'm using it at a slower transfer rate. One alternative is the one that had a firmware issue: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1.5 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST31500341AS-Bare Drive (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066IJPQ/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) If I buy this new (from Amazon.com), should I expect the firmware issue is fixed in that item? I could buy 2 of those (ST31500341AS) for what 1 of the ST32000641AS would cost. Another alternative is a 2TB one that runs at 5900 rpm, but I'm partial to the 7200: Seagate Barracuda LP 2 TB 5900RPM SATA 3 GB/s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive ST32000542AS-Bare Drive (http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST32000542AS-Bare/dp/B0028Y4CY6/ref=pd_cart_recs_16 ) Suggestions welcomed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Myriad LEM lists discussion
Perhaps a convention (noun 1. a way in which something is usually done, esp. within a particular area or activity) simple enough for anyone to understand regarding subject lines could do away with all groups but LEM Discussion and LEM Swap. The idea here is that, if you are so inclined, you can create your own group or groups through the use of your very own email filters. A couple templates: MACHINE:OS:Description of problem (entirely freestyle here) HARDWARE:Description of problem (entirely freestyle here) Examples based on them: SAWTOOTH:TIGER:GeForce FX5200 causing kernel panics GRAPHICS CARD:GeForce FX5200 causing kernel panics In the case of these examples. I think the latter would better connect questions with answers (not to mention questions with other questioners). Most people would think to mention their machine and OS (etc.) without prompting within the body of the message, and people with expertise in graphics cards tend not to be limited to certain Mac models and operating systems. I'm a member of the G-Group and the OS 9 group, and I receive posts as emails, and as it now stands, my practice is to at least skim through everything. Very educational. I know such an approach isn't for everyone, but I glean bits of information and things to pique my interest from threads I'd probably disregard if I went by subject alone. All of which goes to say: I don't offer the idea mentioned above for my own sake. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Worth the added cost?
I use the sonnet pci sata card in my QS 2002 933 and a Seagate 7200.12. So far it has been a very good combination. On Feb 23, 2011 10:09 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I'm considering upgrading my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz, with a SATA PCI card (Probably Sonnet, since I cannot find Firmtek's). I also want a new SATA Seagate, and see they have an XT 2TB model. Here's the full name: Seagate Barracuda XT 2 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Bare Drive ST32000641AS ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RWJHBM/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) I know it is somewhat of an overkill, as the Sonnet SATA PCI card is a 3Gb/s card, and probably doesn't achieve that in a QS 2002; but it has a 5-Year Warranty, and I rationalize it would last longer since I'm using it at a slower transfer rate. One alternative is the one that had a firmware issue: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1.5 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST31500341AS-Bare Drive ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066IJPQ/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) If I buy this new (from Amazon.com), should I expect the firmware issue is fixed in that item? I could buy 2 of those (ST31500341AS) for what 1 of the ST32000641AS would cost. Another alternative is a 2TB one that runs at 5900 rpm, but I'm partial to the 7200: Seagate Barracuda LP 2 TB 5900RPM SATA 3 GB/s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive ST32000542AS-Bare Drive ( http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST32000542AS-Bare/dp/B0028Y4CY6/ref=pd_cart_recs_16 ) Suggestions welcomed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Video Card/Monitor Question
Does this mean the card doesn't support Core Image? Or is it just the monitor? *ATI Radeon 9000 Pro:* Chipset Model: ATY,RV250 Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 128 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID: 0x4966 Revision ID: 0x0001 ROM Revision: 113-99703-127 Displays: *NEC M500:* Resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz Depth: 32-bit Color Core Image: Not Supported Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported *Display:* Status: No display connected -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Better bootloader
On 20/02/11 6:44 PM, Tina K. wrote: Is there a better way of getting the option to select which OS to boot to, in a dual boot (OS X 10.5 and Server) than holding down the Option key at startup? Perhaps a GUI bootloader that he could select from? For a GUI bootloader I don't know that you'll do much better than the OS X native, the linux yaboot might work under these circumstances but it's not GUI. That is if it's for a PPC Mac, there's a different bootloader for X86/64 linux that I have no experience with. Tina Thanks, Tina, it does not look like there's a real option for this native to ppc. I know most of the viable linux options, but they are not real options. A native mac app would be ideal. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: App to Delete Unused Languages, Printers, Modems
On 22/02/11 1:58 AM, Judith Berkowitz wrote: Now I'm looking to gain a bit of space on the iBook's hard drive by deleting unused languages, modems, and printers. What would be good utilities to take care of this task? Thanks! I know that monolingual will take care of the other languages. I've never used it but it's quite popular. If you're pressed for space, you might want to reinstall or backup parts of what you want with CCC. And restore from the backup, having eliminated stuff you don't want earlier with CCC. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple mail addys?
Where do I find the Apple Mail address's to delete the ones I don't want any more? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The spinning beach ball and Firefox
On Feb 21, 7:37 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 21, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I am running the latest Snow Leopard and Firefox. All of a sudden, I keep getting the spinning beach ball of death! And it won't quit! I have to force quit over and over again. It doesn't matter if I select an email, try to delete, use a bookmark. I have run Onyx, restarted, shut down and nothing helps! I read my email online, so it is a real pain! Anyone else having a problem or know how to fix it? Ideas: It might be a common font problem?: http://www.metaphoriclabs.com/articles/fix-firefox-font-rendering-pro... You might look in the Console logs for a problem, perhaps in the / Library/LogsHangReporterFirefox? You may have to dig around some. Kris, I tried the font idea. It didn't help. I went to the Library/ LogsHangReporterFirefox and that was empty. But the CrashReporter folder had the Hangs. I didn't get much out of reading it, since I don't know what to look for. I did notice a lot of the word Kernel and this: Thread 7bb97a8 Kernel stack: 18 IOWorkLoop::threadMain() + 0 [0x54ba1c] over and over again. Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The spinning beach ball and Firefox
On Feb 21, 8:54 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/02/21 18:02, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: I am running the latest Snow Leopard and Firefox. All of a sudden, I keep getting the spinning beach ball of death! And it won't quit! I have to force quit over and over again. It doesn't matter if I select an email, try to delete, use a bookmark. I have run Onyx, restarted, shut down and nothing helps! I read my email online, so it is a real pain! Anyone else having a problem or know how to fix it? Perhaps a corrupt pref file? Try moving your Firefox pref(s) to the desktop and see if it still happens. You might also try creating a brand new user account and see if it happens from there. Tina Tina, I looked for the Firefox Prefs in LibraryPreferences, but couldn't find them. Where are they? Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The spinning beach ball and Firefox
On Feb 22, 12:45 am, James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 21, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I am running the latest Snow Leopard and Firefox. All of a sudden, I keep getting the spinning beach ball of death! And it won't quit! I have to force quit over and over again. It doesn't matter if I select an email, try to delete, use a bookmark. I have run Onyx, restarted, shut down and nothing helps! I read my email online, so it is a real pain! Anyone else having a problem or know how to fix it? Ideas: It might be a common font problem?: http://www.metaphoriclabs.com/articles/fix-firefox-font-rendering-pro... You might look in the Console logs for a problem, perhaps in the /Library/LogsHangReporterFirefox? You may have to dig around some. I suspect a s/w problem/conflict but that's just a guess based on years of experience with nutscrape, mozilla, thunderbird products. OTOH, the very latest Safari seems to be super stable as compared to former versions of that browser. As an aside, the op is obviously running intel, (as am I), but that group seems not to have the traffic as the g group. G' Day! JT I installed LogMeIn about 3 weeks ago and did some updates for Snow Leopard and TechTracker. X-Marks has been playng havoc with my Bookmarks, too, but don't know if that could be the cause. Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The spinning beach ball and Firefox
On Feb 22, 7:20 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 21, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I am running the latest Snow Leopard and Firefox. All of a sudden, I keep getting the spinning beach ball of death! And it won't quit! I have to force quit over and over again. It doesn't matter if I select an email, try to delete, use a bookmark. I have run Onyx, restarted, shut down and nothing helps! Try starting Firefox in safe mode: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe%20Mode?s=Safe+modeas=s Then immediately clear the cache. This is a common symptom of a corrupted cache. -- Bruce Johnson Started up in Safe Mode and cleared the cache. I kept Firefox opened for a bit and did not get the beach ball. Quit Firefox and restarted --- and it's back (Don't know if this complicates or makes the problem clearer, but all of a sudden I can't print from my laptop. The printer is plugged into the desktopinto Airportinto cable modem. X-Marks has screwed up my Bookmarks. So I have been organizing them on the desktop ---between beach ball restarts. When I had them just as I wanted, I had Foxmarks export them (Firefox doesn't have an Export feature, just Import from Safari) imported them into Safari and then had Firefox import them again. All the while starting Firefox--force quit and restarting Firefox.) Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video Card/Monitor Question
The 9000 doesn't support core image. I think 9600 9700 and 9800 do. On Feb 23, 2011 11:33 PM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean the card doesn't support Core Image? Or is it just the monitor? *ATI Radeon 9000 Pro:* Chipset Model: ATY,RV250 Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 128 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID: 0x4966 Revision ID: 0x0001 ROM Revision: 113-99703-127 Displays: *NEC M500:* Resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz Depth: 32-bit Color Core Image: Not Supported Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported *Display:* Status: No display connected -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Browsers
Hey Tina, Have you tried Flock ? It works pretty good on my G3 466 Clamshell with 576mb and a 7200rpm HD!!! It really works great on my Tibook A1025 too!!! It runs faster then Camino did... -Original Message- From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 23, 2011 3:27 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Browsers Recently I tried using Camino as my primary browser and found it to be excruciatingly slow, pages that other browsers load in seconds take about a minute (or more) to load in Camino. Has anyone else noticed this? The reason I tried using Camino is because I'm a little low on RAM and OmniWeb uses over 1GB by the end of the day. Today I'm trying Safari and it's already up to 718MB, is this just the nature of WebKit? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... “Choose love and peace above all other options. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life, in all its expressions, and surrender all judgment to God. --- Dr. David R. Hawkins -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?
On Feb 19, 3:43 pm, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: A dual 1.8 G4 in 9.2? I can't even imagine how fast that would be. Very fast... except it wouldn't be dual. OS 9 lacks dual processor support, IIRC. Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: App to Delete Unused Languages, Printers, Modems
Where do you get 1.3.9? I went to my usual places and all I see is the new version for 10.5 On Feb 23, 2011 11:34 PM, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/11 1:58 AM, Judith Berkowitz wrote: Now I'm looking to gain a bit of space on the iBook's hard drive by deleting unused languages, modems, and printers. What would be good utilities to take care of this task? Thanks! I know that monolingual will take care of the other languages. I've never used it but it's quite popular. If you're pressed for space, you might want to reinstall or backup parts of what you want with CCC. And restore from the backup, having eliminated stuff you don't want earlier with CCC. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Better bootloader
On 20/02/11 6:06 PM, iJohn wrote: Is there a better way of getting the option to select which OS to boot to, in a dual boot (OS X 10.5 and Server) than holding down the Option key at startup? Perhaps a GUI bootloader that he could select from? Not sure what you're looking for. Have you looked at the Startup Disk settings under System Preferences? Would that work for you? http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/8240.html John, thanks. I'm aware of that. What is being looked for is what you'd see in, say Chameleon, except that's for hackintoshes. An app that prevents going to System Preferences each time to choose the start up disk would be great. And one that's for ppc machines would be great. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple mail addys?
On Feb 22, 2011, at 6:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Where do I find the Apple Mail address's to delete the ones I don't want any more? With your Mail.app open go to the Window MenuPrevious Recipients. There is also a selection there to open Address Panel which are the addresses from your Address Book. Does this help? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Do not understand how to send html emails on my G4 Mac
Do not understand how to send html emails I keep getting them and now I need to send one or so. How do you do this on my G4 10.4 using yahoo etc. Thanks for your help. JML -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Better bootloader
On 20/02/11 5:02 PM, bit...@ovi.com wrote: maybe this can be an option:http://refit.sourceforge.net/ i haven't used it myself but a friend of mine loves it I was hoping for a mac app, really. And the link you kindly provided is for intel macs. This is a PPC machine being talked about. Cheers -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: App to Delete Unused Languages, Printers, Modems
On 2/23/11 11:48 PM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Where do you get 1.3.9? I went to my usual places and all I see is the new version for 10.5 Yeah, good question. I could use Monolingual too since I'm getting tight on disk space -- but I couldn't find one that would work with TIGER. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: App to Delete Unused Languages, Printers, Modems
Barney Guzzo wrote: Where do you get 1.3.9? Yersinia wrote: Yeah, good question. http://sourceforge.net/projects/monolingual/files/monolingual/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: App to Delete Unused Languages, Printers, Modems
On Feb 22, 6:14 am, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: I know that monolingual will take care of the other languages. I've never used it but it's quite popular. If you're pressed for space, you might want to reinstall or backup parts of what you want with CCC. And restore from the backup, having eliminated stuff you don't want earlier with CCC. Thanks Nestamicky. Monolingual has three categories in which to clear things out: Languages Input Menu Architecture In the Languages and Architecture categories, the choices are self- evident, but what should I choose to clear out in the Input Menu category? There is nothing on the SourceForge site which addresses this. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: App to Delete Unused Languages, Printers, Modems
On Feb 23, 10:35 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Barney Guzzo wrote: Where do you get 1.3.9? Yersinia wrote: Yeah, good question. http://sourceforge.net/projects/monolingual/files/monolingual/ I had evidently downloaded Monolingual 1.3.9 to my HD at some point previously. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
