Re: Acronym Clarification
NOTE (to nannies): replying on top - for simplicity -- and I forget if we can do not-plain-text. Below, I enboldened the key parts, leaving the rest for context. Anyway, these first few lines are still plain-text -- and provides Lyle and others with answer. correction to my prior answer (which is below). Explanation is at end of my message (quoted below) Here's the link: http://www.acronymfinder.com/Been-There%2c-Done-That%2c-Got-The- T_Shirt-(BTDTGTTS).html J On Sep 13, 2008, at 7:59 PM, J Winter wrote: > > > On Sep 13, 2008, at 6:41 AM, Lyle Syverson wrote: > >> >> In another thread, JWinter<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> recently wrote, in part: >> >>> BTDT. HTTS. Sounds like you've been given good advice. >> >> What does HTTS stand for? >> > > Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] (of course) ;-) and > [EMAIL PROTECTED] gave the correct answer. > > Been There Done That. Have The T-Shirt. > > The entire thing (both sentences) is used together. Acronymfinder may > have it as one word: BTDTHTTS, but it is easier to understand as two. > > Thanks, guys, for answering Lyle. I had not had a chance. (Unless > someone lends me a laptop, I'll be absent for a while when this baby > goes in for repairs.) Yeah, it's stuff I can't/won't do. (Even so, > when prior repairs done, they forgot to do one requested thing, so, > promised me that when I was readt to swap the drive (now/soon), > they'd do requested task they had forgotten to do -- and not charge > me bench fee for opening it again. Er, ah, THIS time, I will insist > they use the correct screwdriver -- even if I have to provide it ; I > might even buy a set of screws -- as I can trace current problems to > a screw having fallen out. Gee, I should have suspected something > like that when they thought (even after the fact) that opening a > Titanium was "no big deal." :-) There's someone here who can say > NTDT.GTTS. of this one. Oops, goes to show you that "have" can be > "got" ? Maybe that acronym exists. :-) > > Sorry about "topic change" - but, this doesn't need further > discussion, AFAIK. > > J. > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: best ACTIVE list(s) for G4 PB info?
(from original thread - this is re what hard drive to get) On Sep 13, 2008, at 1:09 PM, diane wrote: >> For video playback be sure to get one that >> has 7200 rpm or better. > > > When I was researching an upgrade for my iBook, it was pretty much > stated to stay at 5400 for better cooling and battery consumption. That's one of the dilemmas in this decision. Computer is Titanium/Mercury (2001), many parts similar to iBook of later that year. The MODEL tends to run hot. But, I am uncertain if the heat has caused any problems. (Problem that was thought to be heat-related was isolated to something else.) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: best ACTIVE list(s) for G4 PB info?
On Sep 13, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Al Poulin wrote: > Yes, this list is truly more helpful than the G4-books. But if I'd > seen the same questions there, I would have given you the same answers > as below. The few times i have cross-posted, this is the list that is most likely to answer. :-) Thanks, guys! BTW, no, as laptop person, I am not "afraid" to open it -- It's just that many laptop people are more likely to not have any spare computers (or parts) to play with -- nor may have the spare time to experiment with the mechanical innards. OTOH, people who have desktop systems and laptops or a whole arsenal may more easily come up with answers than people who have one machine at a time (the one that works). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: best ACTIVE list(s) for G4 PB info?
(uh, this is still on topic of original post, which asked this question, even though not in subject line. So, I am not changing subject line.) On Sep 13, 2008, at 7:22 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Al Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I don't know why you would need a fan. I like the PodiumPad for >> function and portability: >> http://roadtools.com/ >> > > _ > > A case in point. a friend of mine bought a new machine that ran very > hot. it crashed repeatedly due to heat. She tried the non powered > supports and found them totally useless to solve the problem. Why? She > is bed ridden and ... supporting the laptop... in a position she > could manage > blocks the air flow with the passive cooler > > Many powered fan coolers however draw air from the side rather than > the bottom and redirect it upward. It works in her case. This is an excellent example of WHY I want more info about the features of the different cooling choices. I am not 100 % sure I NEED a cooling pad, but pretty sure it would be a good idea for this machine. So, if anyone can send info re sites that describe/compare them, that would be great. BTW, this is for 15 inch diagonal screen. I saw one designed for portability: looks like pair of scissors that folds to a rectangle. Don't know weight, but *appears* to be good for briefcase (as its permanent home), with a different one for desktop use when not mobile. I would like to start with the lightest, most compact *useful* one, for obility, and then get a second one, for non-mobile use, if i find the need. FWIW, there are some tricks your bed-ridden friend can use to arrange the laptop & bedding differently and still meet her needs. She might have to make a modest expenditure for equipment, or might be able to tri-pod the laptop differently, creating air-flow under it. Or, when it starts to run hot, take a needed break, put it to sleep, and turn it over (hot side up) until she's ready to use it again. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Acronym Clarification
On Sep 13, 2008, at 6:41 AM, Lyle Syverson wrote: > > In another thread, JWinter<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> recently wrote, in part: > >> BTDT. HTTS. Sounds like you've been given good advice. > > What does HTTS stand for? > Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] (of course) ;-) and [EMAIL PROTECTED] gave the correct answer. Been There Done That. Have The T-Shirt. The entire thing (both sentences) is used together. Acronymfinder may have it as one word: BTDTHTTS, but it is easier to understand as two. Thanks, guys, for answering Lyle. I had not had a chance. (Unless someone lends me a laptop, I'll be absent for a while when this baby goes in for repairs.) Yeah, it's stuff I can't/won't do. (Even so, when prior repairs done, they forgot to do one requested thing, so, promised me that when I was readt to swap the drive (now/soon), they'd do requested task they had forgotten to do -- and not charge me bench fee for opening it again. Er, ah, THIS time, I will insist they use the correct screwdriver -- even if I have to provide it ; I might even buy a set of screws -- as I can trace current problems to a screw having fallen out. Gee, I should have suspected something like that when they thought (even after the fact) that opening a Titanium was "no big deal." :-) There's someone here who can say NTDT.GTTS. of this one. Oops, goes to show you that "have" can be "got" ? Maybe that acronym exists. :-) Sorry about "topic change" - but, this doesn't need further discussion, AFAIK. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
best ACTIVE list(s) for G4 PB info?
(sent to LEM g-books also) Pardon the duplication: wanted to show where it was sent. TIA for suggestions. Posted to g4Books list. (Cross-posted to the more-active %3-5 list - Although it has desktop focus, many people there have laptops - and might be more likely to reply.) LEM G4books list is not very active. (Low subscriber-base?) What list(s) are best places to sink/find/share information about this particular computer? -- see specs, in signature. My major unanswered questions now are: 1. Advice on cost-conscious selection of hard-drive for internal replacement of original 10 gig drive. i.e. Something less than 100 gig is fine. Everything I see is bigger than that and more $ than I need for *internal* drive. If/when I need more than 100 gig drive, I would use external storage for that. 2. Advice on selecting fan/cooling pad for under laptop. There seem to be so many models. Lightweight and compact (portability) is a desired feature, even if I need 2 units: one for briefcase and a better one for regular use. This Mac is my only working Mac, and I don't foresee another Mac soon, unless I resurrect something even older that it on-hand. So, I need advice on optimizing this machine for reliability and performance. Want to get most life out of this computer, until reason to replace with something else. Thanks. J Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Power Book: That is the original Titanium (Jan 2001), code-name "Mercury" 400 MHz Power PC G 4, 640 MB SDRAM, OS X 10.4.11 Soon will increase to 1 GIG MEM and get larger hard drive, replace a few worn parts, etc. Open to ideas for best use(s) of PCMIA slot. Capability to add usage of Speech-dictation software (Mac Speech iListen) is a next goal, i.e., after hardware upgrades. Intended hardware changes now are likely to be "the last time" of opening this computer (barring unplanned necessity). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
best ACTIVE list(s) for G4 PB info?
Posted to g4Books list. (Cross-posted to the more-active %3-5 list - Although it has desktop focus, many people there have laptops - and might be more likely to reply.) LEM G4books list is not very active. (Low subscriber-base?) What list(s) are best places to sink/find/share information about this particular computer? -- see specs, in signature. My major unanswered questions now are: 1. Advice on cost-conscious selection of hard-drive for internal replacement of original 10 gig drive. i.e. Something less than 100 gig is fine. Everything I see is bigger than that and more $ than I need for *internal* drive. If/when I need more than 100 gig drive, I would use external storage for that. 2. Advice on selecting fan/cooling pad for under laptop. There seem to be so many models. Lightweight and compact (portability) is a desired feature, even if I need 2 units: one for briefcase and a better one for regular use. This Mac is my only working Mac, and I don't foresee another Mac soon, unless I resurrect something even older that it on-hand. So, I need advice on optimizing this machine for reliability and performance. Want to get most life out of this computer, until reason to replace with something else. Thanks. J Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Power Book: That is the original Titanium (Jan 2001), code-name "Mercury" 400 MHz Power PC G 4, 640 MB SDRAM, OS X 10.4.11 Soon will increase to 1 GIG MEM and get larger hard drive, replace a few worn parts, etc. Open to ideas for best use(s) of PCMIA slot. Capability to add usage of Speech-dictation software (Mac Speech iListen) is a next goal, i.e., after hardware upgrades. Intended hardware changes now are likely to be "the last time" of opening this computer (barring unplanned necessity). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I don't dare shut down this Mac
On Sep 9, 2008, at 1:20 AM, Tom wrote: > My copy of Onyx says it won't work with 10.4, but I ran all the tasks > MacJanitor could do. > What's the appropriate system maintenance tool(s) for 10.4.11 ? > I'm still not going to shut this Mac down until I think it has some > chance of starting up normally again. BTDT. HTTS. Sounds like you've been given good advice. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive recommendations
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Re: Hard drive recommendations
At 2:32 PM -0700 9/9/08, J Winter wrote: > > Sorry, I am still confused. My only mac is G4 (7 yrs old, firewire > 400) and I am seeking to replace original drive with something that > meets current needs AND can be moved to external case (firewire > 400/800) (or whatever is then current) WHEN I get newer computer - > which is indeterminate future (vs. soon). So, what drive do i get > NOW, with intent to use it in future? Hi J, We were discussing desktop drives in this thread. That's probably the source of the confusion. :) Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA cards was Re: Hard drive recommendations
On Sep 9, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Peter wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2008, at 2:22 PM, J Winter wrote: > >> With that in mind: Instead of what i had planned: internal drive of >> under 100 gig, should I be getting some card for PCMIA slot that >> would allow me to use a SATA (they're so less expensive) or some >> other drive for internal use? > > For my Toshiba, I use an Express-34 card ... Silicon Image 3132 chip > set ... and it is Mac compatible right out of the box. > > Well, you DO have to download the Mac OS drivers from SiI's web site, > but the 3132 chip set is supported by MacOS. > > The 3132 supports "port multipliers", too, so you can have up to five > SATA drives off of each of the two eSATA connections. > > You can get 3132 cards for desktops, too, but some are RAID-only, and > have to be FLASHed to be BASE. > > For my work, I need lots of storage, particularly external storage. > > With eSATA being very economical now, and with it being so much > faster than USB or Firewire, I see eSATA is the way to go. Do you mean using eSATA as external drives? (I didn't think you are saying that this card allows you to use eSATA internally.) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive recommendations
On Sep 9, 2008, at 2:36 PM, diane wrote: > > At 2:32 PM -0700 9/9/08, J Winter wrote: >> >> Sorry, I am still confused. My only mac is G4 (7 yrs old, firewire >> 400) and I am seeking to replace original drive with something that >> meets current needs AND can be moved to external case (firewire >> 400/800) (or whatever is then current) WHEN I get newer computer - >> which is indeterminate future (vs. soon). So, what drive do i get >> NOW, with intent to use it in future? > > > Hi J, > > We were discussing desktop drives in this thread. That's probably the > source of the confusion. :) > > Diane Close. I know you are discussing desktop drives. And I understand that desktop drives differ from notebook drives. I can't figure out the implications on the choice of notebook drives. Sorry, but the membdership and activity level on the notebook LEM list is too listtle to get responses. And, many people here seem to have both desktops and notebooks, so this seems to be th epopulation to which to ask questions. No? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive recommendations
On Sep 4, 2008, at 3:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Sep 3, 11:20 pm, diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thinking of the future here, I am wondering if I wouldn't be well >> served to buy a SATA PCI (not express) card for the FW800. >> >> Then I can buy the newer drives which will still work in a G5 or Mac >> Pro when I finally do upgrade. > > Spending extra money to future-proof your purchase is almost never > worth it in the context of computer equipment. Just buy what you > need now at the best price you can find, unless you already have solid > plans to upgrade, in which case, you should be considering skipping > the purchase of hte outmoded stuff. > > Also, SATA to PATA adapters are available for less than $15, so if you > really want to take your drive with you to a newer machine you can use > such an adapter--theoretically. They were less than $8 at geeks.com > but they seem to be out of them now. Sorry, I am still confused. My only mac is G4 (7 yrs old, firewire 400) and I am seeking to replace original drive with something that meets current needs AND can be moved to external case (firewire 400/800) (or whatever is then current) WHEN I get newer computer - which is indeterminate future (vs. soon). So, what drive do i get NOW, with intent to use it in future? (specs in signature) J Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Power Book: That is the original Titanium (Jan 2001), code-name "Mercury" 400 MHz Power PC G 4, 640 MB SDRAM, OS X 10.4.11 Soon will increase to 1 GIG MEM and get larger hard drive. Open to ideas for best use(s) of PCMIA slot --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Mail problems - app quits or freezes
On Sep 4, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > There's nothing in the my prefs file that looks like it would affect > this, unless it's the last read message item, which would point not to > a prefs issue but a caching issue of some sort. My quits seems to all (or mostly?) occur during a POP3 download. Only other major oddidty is sometimes messages that have been received and read (or even composed and sent) - when i later attempt to view, I get a pre-worded, italicized messsage that says (parphrase) "This message can not be read because it has not yet been downloaded" - which makes no sense, especially as it has at least once occurred with a draft message which I still have (but can't read) - however, the actual message was sent, which triggered a quit, and did not save the message in sent file. Hope this helps you figure it out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA cards was Re: Hard drive recommendations
OK, I am *terribly* confused about what i am reading on this thread. (Background is that only computer is G4 Titanium (original) with original drive. I am about to replace original 10-gig internal drive with something larger, but terrabite is more than I "need" - unless i expect to use it in a future computer. have not determined use yet for any PCMIA card. ) With that in mind: Instead of what i had planned: internal drive of under 100 gig, should I be getting some card for PCMIA slot that would allow me to use a SATA (they're so less expensive) or some other drive for internal use? Getting ready to order parts, so, I hope this discussion resolves soon. thanks! On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:17 AM, dc wrote: > > SATA drives are being actively developed, so improvements like the 32 > MB cache are available on SATA before they appear on PATA drives. I > have one with the new large cache and it performs very well. I'm using > a SeriTek/1V4 which boots 3 SATA RAID 0 drives in my G5/Leopard. It is > well-supported, with firmware and drivers available for G5s, G4s (both > 10.4 and 10.5) and Windows. > http://www.firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-1v4/ > > On Sep 4, 7:29 am, diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> At 2:35 PM -0700 9/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> On Sep 2, 6:37 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For the G5, the Seagate 1 TB SATA drive was $160 at Frys a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if it will go there again soon, but it has certainly been at $170 (169.99) pretty regularly, so do not buy it at $199 or $249, which is where the regular price seems to be. >> >>> Speak of the devil... The 1 TB SATA Seagate is $159 with free >>> shipping at Frys again. The 500 GB SATA drive is $79 with free >>> shipping. Unfortunately, the PATA drives are not similarly >>> reduced-- >>> usually they are priced the same as the SATA drives. There is no >>> 1 TB >>> PATA drive, but there is a 500 GB PATA, however it is still $110. >> >> Thinking of the future here, I am wondering if I wouldn't be well >> served to buy a SATA PCI (not express) card for the FW800. >> >> Then I can buy the newer drives which will still work in a G5 or Mac >> Pro when I finally do upgrade. >> >> Certainly can't beat those prices!!! >> >> Diane > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple Mail problems - app quits or freezes
On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Dan wrote: > >> >> It seems like problems with Apple Mail continue... everything from it >> suddenly quitting to freezing up while displaying certain messages. >> You re-launch and Mail goes right back to the same freezing or >> quitting! > > > > Mail is one of the most stable apps on my mac > However, we use IMAP exclusively, I wonder if it's something to do > with the way Mail manages POP accounts. > > yup. I think it's a POP thing. My mail is usually POP, and I have been having these quits, too. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: HD-enclosure recommendations ?
On Sep 3, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Steve R wrote: > > At 11:06 PM -0700 9/2/08, J Winter posted: > please make suggestions. (Specs and plans are in signature. > > removing original 10 Gig drive to install larger drive. > > What enclosure to get? > > Only one that is easy/convenient to get is MacAlly. > > I like that it has firewire 400/800/USB. > > . > Are there others that are sufficiently better/smaller, etc (or less > expensive) tht I should get something different? ... > > If it's a fantastic price, I'd go for it. If it was a fantastic price, i wouldn't have posed the question. :-) (I don't recall the price -- last one I bought was a few months ago -- but it was about 20% more than I wanted to spend, just OK enough to let me justify getting it for expedience. > I have four different > external HD enclosures ...Having multiple choices for connections is > imperative if you ever plan on upgrading or using it on a different > computer that may not have a spare slot for a particular enclosure. I have a few (rarely used), but i think this is the only one with the multiple connections. I think the other few are USB. Although newest Mac supports only up to firewire 400, I figure that anything new that i get has to have at least 400 firewire and preferably 400/800. That's why I am not taking seriously the ten dollar USBs, although the price is enticing, and i don't expect to use them often (now). > If I had my purchases to do over, I'd try to get enclosures that > could stack on one another, safely, to save desk space. That is one of the features of the Mac Ally that I has easy access to, but at "floor price" at shop that is doing repairs (very reasonably). > Also keep in > mind it is sometimes less expensive to buy an enclosure with a drive > than it is to buy a bare drive. How do you do that? i.e., Size - I want portable size. the only times i have seen drive in enclosures are ones that are physically too large. The MacAlly is a little larger and heavier than I want it to be. but, it can't be much smaller and have room for the drive. it can't be much shorter and stlll be stackable safely. (It has "rubber" spacers is strategic places that make it obvious that, barring an earthquake -- or large, unruly, four-legged friend, it would stay secure on desk.) Any more opinions? J --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard drive recommendations
On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Ralph wrote: > >> ... >>> From my experience, IBM drives have a shorter shelf life, Fujitsu >>> are very >> noisy and Seagate are ultra reliable. > > Howdy, > I remember thinking the same thing until one month I had 3 systems > with Seagate hard drives fail. Looking back, they were all in the > 10 to > 20 gb range and it seems to me that size range was problematic for all > manufacturers. Are there different opinions about what drives are most reliable for use in Apple laptops? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
HD-enclosure recommendations ?
please make suggestions. (Specs and plans are in signature. removing original 10 Gig drive to install larger drive. What enclosure to get? Only one that is easy/convenient to get is MacAlly. I like that it has firewire 400/800/USB. I like that it is portable, though, even smaller size/weight would be nice. Are there others that are sufficiently better/smaller, etc (or less expensive) tht I should get something different? or, just get the MacAlly that repair shop has? Thanks. J Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Power Book: That is the original Titanium (Jan 2001), code-name "Mercury" 400 MHz Power PC G 4, 640 MB SDRAM, OS X 10.4.11 Soon will increase to 1 GIG MEM and get larger hard drive. Open to ideas for best use(s) of PCMIA slot --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replace Original HD in Titanium - recommendations?
doesanyone have suggestion for how to configure Dealmac alert for these drives? I can't figure out how to do it without getting tons of SATA drive -- an none suitable for Mac laptops. On Sep 2, 2008, at 11:00 PM, J Winter wrote: > please make suggestions. (Specs and plans are in signature. > > removing original 10 Gig drive to install larger drive. ... > In terms of size and price, I'm probably looking at 40-100 Gig - > which means on-line, probably, as most stores have larger drives, > more expensive. > > > > J Winter > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Power Book: That is the original Titanium (Jan 2001), code-name > "Mercury" > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Replace Original HD in Titanium - recommendations?
please make suggestions. (Specs and plans are in signature. removing original 10 Gig drive to install larger drive. (Someone else is doing the work. ) In terms of size and price, I'm probably looking at 40-100 Gig - which means on-line, probably, as most stores have larger drives, more expensive. What brand drive to get? Most everything I find via deals anywhere seems to be wrong for Mac or too large in size for budget (or needs). Suggestions? Brand? Anything else to absolutely consider ? i.e., -- as this is likely the last time it will be cost-effective to open this computer. (We're doing it now because last time it was opened, they forget to install something I requested (replace dead PRAM battery). So, I am getting the work done without paying the bench- fee. So, might as well do everything that I'll ever do now. (Will install the 2nd memory chip later - already moved first one to the bottom, so that i could easily install the second one.) Quiet would be "nice" -- I am not working in a noisy environment, so will hear every "flutter" Thanks. J Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Power Book: That is the original Titanium (Jan 2001), code-name "Mercury" 400 MHz Power PC G 4, 640 MB SDRAM, OS X 10.4.11 Soon will increase to 1 GIG MEM and get larger hard drive. Open to ideas for best use(s) of PCMIA slot As per below, would LOVE to be able to use Mac-Speech on this book, but am cautious about going beyond 10.4.11. Plans: Anticipate arrival of some or all of a used Desktop with LCD, running Tiger AFAIK. (Uncertain if prior owner is retaining some parts, and if so, what.) I forget model, but it's the one with "soccer ball" under the screen: to hold all the "innards" etc. (i.e., everything but the keyboard and mouse). We wanted to connect it to the Ti. Plan is to wait till I see what arrives and then figure out what is needed to connect it. :-) Also, may want to network the two, especially if the desktop has greater capability/expandability regarding potential for Speech-Dictation Software (MacSpeech's iListen preferred, unless advised otherwise). Or, worse: If I have to connect Ti to something peecee for Speech-Dictation to my satisfaction. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
HD-enclosure recommendations
please make suggestions. (Specs and plans are in signature. removing original 10 Gig drive to install larger drive. What enclosure to get? Only one that is easy/convenient to get is MacAlly. I like that it has firewire 400/800/USB. I like that it is portable, though, even smaller size/weight would be nice. Are there others that are sufficiently better/smaller, etc (or less expensive) tht I should get something different? or, just get the MacAlly that repair shop has? Thanks. J Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Power Book: That is the original Titanium (Jan 2001), code-name "Mercury" 400 MHz Power PC G 4, 640 MB SDRAM, OS X 10.4.11 Soon will increase to 1 GIG MEM and get larger hard drive. Open to ideas for best use(s) of PCMIA slot --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
HD enclosure?; PB intermittent, sudden shut-down
Urgent need for advice. (Machine specs below signature) I most recently wrote about this Mac under subject "Screen suddenly turned grey; compact-drive enclosure ?" In that message, one question was re how to choose Hard-drive neclosure? Knowq I want USB adnd firewire 400 (and FIrewire 800 for future use). ALso that I want low-profile, portablue unit, powered wthout a power=brick *unless advised otheriwise. Purpose is to hold the original 10-gig drive from computer, when I install larger hard- drive -- andsomeday, to put a larger notebook drive in it. External drive necloseure will get infreuqent use, and will likely erve as clone backup to another of save size. Another dirve is in macAlly enxlosure? Is there a better choice? Moore portable? What criteria? Price is an issue, but I do want firewire, rahte rthan the lower-budget USB-only dirvel. Similarly, ultra-portable is an ussue - whethe for portable use or saving desktip space. Wkecine aby advuse ib cgon choosing hard drive encclosures *for US Mac notebooks. THE OTHER ISSUE: Recenly, from time to time, computer just stioos. dead cold. reboots fine. nothing lost. Batteryis fine and fully chared. Happens when connected to power or when on battery. Iknow that ORAM needs replacing. But is there a short somewhere that is causing this sudden loss of power to everything? What do I need to have fixed? I ;plan to pen the book to replace pram and some other changes at same time. This will probably be "the last time" tthe boo is opened. (i.e. replacing hard-drive for larger cpacity at same time. Wondering what this new problemi s and what it needs to fix it. FWIW, the PRAM has been dead for rmonths, but the loss of total power is a recent event. CLues would help, as I am about to order "all the parts I think I need" so that we can open case only this once . FWIW, loss of power seems random, rather than when adjusting screen hinge or etc. Only way I get computer restarted in by pressing start button. i.e. lights go out. Clues greatly appreciated. :=) Thanks. ASAP, if possible. Note: This is my "workhorse" Mac. Need it to be in best shape, without putting more cash in to it than is worthwhile. Not in position to buy a "new, new Mac" -- occaionally have access to very- good deal on Univesrsty-surplussed Macs. (absent hard-drives).. but have not had good experiences with buying used LEMs. Alternative is to resurrect old Duo, which would set me back, as I am accustomed to OSX, -- and Duo has sub-size keyboard, which I prefer to avoid. Other old LEMS would require more expense to make functional,with end result having slower operation, less memory, etc. Could use some guidelines as to when to cut losses on this machine, but generally think that would be after this next opening of the machine , but the time after that. i.e. making mazimum improvement now. So, open to suggestion as to what else i shouls do to this machine now. This sudden shit-down has me stumped. Ideas? Thanks!. J Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Power Book: 400 MHz Power PC G 4, 640 MB SDRAM (soon to be maxed to 1 Gig), OS X 10.4.11 That is the original Titanium (Jan 2001), code-name "Mercury" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
