Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9
On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Timothy wrote: My retail CD is 9.2.1, that might be why mine works. There's no such thing as a retail 9.2.1 or 9.2.2 disc. The final retail MacOS disc was the OS 9.1 disc which is white with the large yellow/orange 9 on it. This disc was sold retail and was also included free with the Jaguar 10.2 retail disc set. There were two separate updates issued after this final retail disc, those being 9.2.1 update and 9.2.2 update. Any other discs that are normally grey in color are not retail discs, they are discs that are included with certain models of Macs. Panther and Tiger retail discs did not include a MacOS disc, although you could download the free Apple Netboot 9.2.2 OS X installer package to use as a 9.2.2 Classic system, which also boots on Macs that can boot OS 9. Many of the grey discs are very close to being retail, and I've used the grey 9.2.1 disc to install onto many different models of Macs without any issues, so for most purposes these grey discs can be considered retail. The only instances that I'm aware of where a retail disc would be necessary would be for very old Macs such as the Beige G3 that have rare hardware such as the different personality cards that require special extensions that only came on the retail disc, and are needed even if you later upgraded to 9.2.1 or 9.2.2. On the contrary, it's more common to find Macs now that won't boot a retail disc and instead require one of the newer grey discs. The best example is the MDD, the final Mac to boot MacOS 9. The MDD requires a 9.2.2 installer that was specific to the MDD; or a modification of the System with certain specific file versions so that it can successfully boot. Generally speaking a Mac won't boot any OS version that's prior to the version it was released with. If it came with a 9.2.1 disc, then a 9.2.1 disc will be required to boot. If it came with a 9.2.2 disc, then it will require a 9.2.2 disc, and the MDD is the only one that I'm aware of that requires a 9.2.2 disc. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9
We had something like this recently: Some PowerMac models boot from partitions larger than 120GB, but only in OS X, not in OS 9. So your 8GB partition did the trick, but maybe it could have been as large as 119GB with the same effect. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Solved: Digital Audio won't boot os9
On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Timothy wrote: I pulled from the dark recesses of my mind a tidbit about os9 not liking a partition larger than 8gig, so I installed os9 to a partition of 7900 meg at the beginning of the os9 disk. It booted fine. Now to try Classilla! My OS9's all live on 160 Gig partitions maybe you're thinking of XPostFacto style partitions. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9
On the contrary, it's more common to find Macs now that won't boot a retail disc and instead require one of the newer grey discs. The best example is the MDD, the final Mac to boot MacOS 9. The MDD requires a 9.2.2 installer that was specific to the MDD; or a modification of the System with certain specific file versions so that it can successfully boot. Generally speaking a Mac won't boot any OS version that's prior to the version it was released with. If it came with a 9.2.1 disc, then a 9.2.1 disc will be required to boot. If it came with a 9.2.2 disc, then it will require a 9.2.2 disc, and the MDD is the only one that I'm aware of that requires a 9.2.2 disc. I've found that a ROM specific to G4 PM and MDD ais all that's required to boot OS 9.2.2 on those machines all else on the disk seems to be the same. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Digital Audio won't boot os9
Hello list, I have a Digital Audio DP533mhz that I want to play old games on, and use old adobe software, pretty much use as a toy, I have a g5 and a macbook pro so I don't need the thing, but I really want to go back to the old days of my imac once in a while. I cannot boot into os9. I have a generic retail 9.2.1 cd that I have tried to install and it almost works. I have installed os9, didnt't work so I replaced the System Folder with the one from the 9.2.1 install cd, and opened it to bless it, but when I restart as I press the option key it offers the hard drive system folder as a boot option then tries to boot, reboots and goes into Panther. 1. I have an Adaptec card that has the 2 hard drives, one on each bus, both are cable select and format fine but 2. They are both over 200 gig. That isn't the problem is it? The card allows for big drives, and is why I got it. 3. It boots from the retail cd fine. 4. I got the computer off ebay and I don't have the original install cds, but places like http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1835 say that 9.2.1, which is written on my retail cd, is supported. 5. 10.3 works great on one of the hard drives, I want os9 solo on the other one and thought it would make it easier. 6. Classic works fine, I tried opening the system folder on the os9 drive in classic to bless it for when it boots off the hard drive but it didn't work. It would change the system folder form a regular folder to one with a smile face on it, but it would boot from the os9 drive for a second then reboot right away into osx. 7. I tried using the sudo bless -folder9 .../path... -use9 or - setBoot from inside osx and it didn't work. 8. I reset the pram a bunch of times. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9
It boots from the CD so the problem is likely your hard drive. How is your hard drive formatted? If you set it up with OS X you have to make sure to install OS 9 drivers. You might need to reformat the hard drive using that option. You probably don't need 200 GB for OS 9, you caould partition the drive into 2 sections, 20 GB shouyld be enough for OS 9 with lots of apps, the other 180 GB could be a backup for your data or a clone of OS X for emergency startup. On Sep 24, 1:26 pm, Timothy ducati900fe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, I have a Digital Audio DP533mhz that I want to play old games on, and use old adobe software, pretty much use as a toy, I have a g5 and a macbook pro so I don't need the thing, but I really want to go back to the old days of my imac once in a while. I cannot boot into os9. I have a generic retail 9.2.1 cd that I have tried to install and it almost works. I have installed os9, didnt't work so I replaced the System Folder with the one from the 9.2.1 install cd, and opened it to bless it, but when I restart as I press the option key it offers the hard drive system folder as a boot option then tries to boot, reboots and goes into Panther. 1. I have an Adaptec card that has the 2 hard drives, one on each bus, both are cable select and format fine but 2. They are both over 200 gig. That isn't the problem is it? The card allows for big drives, and is why I got it. 3. It boots from the retail cd fine. 4. I got the computer off ebay and I don't have the original install cds, but places likehttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1835 say that 9.2.1, which is written on my retail cd, is supported. 5. 10.3 works great on one of the hard drives, I want os9 solo on the other one and thought it would make it easier. 6. Classic works fine, I tried opening the system folder on the os9 drive in classic to bless it for when it boots off the hard drive but it didn't work. It would change the system folder form a regular folder to one with a smile face on it, but it would boot from the os9 drive for a second then reboot right away into osx. 7. I tried using the sudo bless -folder9 .../path... -use9 or - setBoot from inside osx and it didn't work. 8. I reset the pram a bunch of times. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9
I have the os9 disk drivers on both drives, and osx booted off the os9 drive when it had both. Now it boots to os9, has a smiley face for a second, then reboots into osx. I also failed to mention that I tried changing the startup disk in sys prefs, and that didn't work. I think xBoot is taking over after it boots into os9. I have been trying many different ways through the bless command in terminal, maybe I'll get it. On Sep 24, 2:35 pm, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: It boots from the CD so the problem is likely your hard drive. How is your hard drive formatted? If you set it up with OS X you have to make sure to install OS 9 drivers. You might need to reformat the hard drive using that option. You probably don't need 200 GB for OS 9, you caould partition the drive into 2 sections, 20 GB shouyld be enough for OS 9 with lots of apps, the other 180 GB could be a backup for your data or a clone of OS X for emergency startup. On Sep 24, 1:26 pm, Timothy ducati900fe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, I have a Digital Audio DP533mhz that I want to play old games on, and use old adobe software, pretty much use as a toy, I have a g5 and a macbook pro so I don't need the thing, but I really want to go back to the old days of my imac once in a while. I cannot boot into os9. I have a generic retail 9.2.1 cd that I have tried to install and it almost works. I have installed os9, didnt't work so I replaced the System Folder with the one from the 9.2.1 install cd, and opened it to bless it, but when I restart as I press the option key it offers the hard drive system folder as a boot option then tries to boot, reboots and goes into Panther. 1. I have an Adaptec card that has the 2 hard drives, one on each bus, both are cable select and format fine but 2. They are both over 200 gig. That isn't the problem is it? The card allows for big drives, and is why I got it. 3. It boots from the retail cd fine. 4. I got the computer off ebay and I don't have the original install cds, but places likehttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1835 say that 9.2.1, which is written on my retail cd, is supported. 5. 10.3 works great on one of the hard drives, I want os9 solo on the other one and thought it would make it easier. 6. Classic works fine, I tried opening the system folder on the os9 drive in classic to bless it for when it boots off the hard drive but it didn't work. It would change the system folder form a regular folder to one with a smile face on it, but it would boot from the os9 drive for a second then reboot right away into osx. 7. I tried using the sudo bless -folder9 .../path... -use9 or - setBoot from inside osx and it didn't work. 8. I reset the pram a bunch of times. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Solved: Digital Audio won't boot os9
I pulled from the dark recesses of my mind a tidbit about os9 not liking a partition larger than 8gig, so I installed os9 to a partition of 7900 meg at the beginning of the os9 disk. It booted fine. Now to try Classilla! On Sep 24, 3:16 pm, Timothy ducati900fe...@gmail.com wrote: I have the os9 disk drivers on both drives, and osx booted off the os9 drive when it had both. Now it boots to os9, has a smiley face for a second, then reboots into osx. I also failed to mention that I tried changing the startup disk in sys prefs, and that didn't work. I think xBoot is taking over after it boots into os9. I have been trying many different ways through the bless command in terminal, maybe I'll get it. On Sep 24, 2:35 pm, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: It boots from the CD so the problem is likely your hard drive. How is your hard drive formatted? If you set it up with OS X you have to make sure to install OS 9 drivers. You might need to reformat the hard drive using that option. You probably don't need 200 GB for OS 9, you caould partition the drive into 2 sections, 20 GB shouyld be enough for OS 9 with lots of apps, the other 180 GB could be a backup for your data or a clone of OS X for emergency startup. On Sep 24, 1:26 pm, Timothy ducati900fe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, I have a Digital Audio DP533mhz that I want to play old games on, and use old adobe software, pretty much use as a toy, I have a g5 and a macbook pro so I don't need the thing, but I really want to go back to the old days of my imac once in a while. I cannot boot into os9. I have a generic retail 9.2.1 cd that I have tried to install and it almost works. I have installed os9, didnt't work so I replaced the System Folder with the one from the 9.2.1 install cd, and opened it to bless it, but when I restart as I press the option key it offers the hard drive system folder as a boot option then tries to boot, reboots and goes into Panther. 1. I have an Adaptec card that has the 2 hard drives, one on each bus, both are cable select and format fine but 2. They are both over 200 gig. That isn't the problem is it? The card allows for big drives, and is why I got it. 3. It boots from the retail cd fine. 4. I got the computer off ebay and I don't have the original install cds, but places likehttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1835 say that 9.2.1, which is written on my retail cd, is supported. 5. 10.3 works great on one of the hard drives, I want os9 solo on the other one and thought it would make it easier. 6. Classic works fine, I tried opening the system folder on the os9 drive in classic to bless it for when it boots off the hard drive but it didn't work. It would change the system folder form a regular folder to one with a smile face on it, but it would boot from the os9 drive for a second then reboot right away into osx. 7. I tried using the sudo bless -folder9 .../path... -use9 or - setBoot from inside osx and it didn't work. 8. I reset the pram a bunch of times. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Solved: Digital Audio won't boot os9
On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Timothy wrote: I pulled from the dark recesses of my mind a tidbit about os9 not liking a partition larger than 8gig, so I installed os9 to a partition of 7900 meg at the beginning of the os9 disk. It booted fine. Now to try Classilla! This isn't the right answer. There is no first 8 GB partition limitation for OS 9 or MacOS, the limitation is for OS X on certain models of older Macs, and the Digital Audio is not one of these older Macs that have this firmware limitation. It's nice that you've got OS 9 booting, but you should be able to boot OS 9 from any size partition in any location on the HD on a Digital Audio, so your success is coincidence rather than cause effect. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9
I've been having the same problem too... I think you can not do a dual boot on Panther and higher it will only work with Jaguar and back??? I have a retail copy of OS 9.2.2 that came with my first version of OS 10 and it won't work and all these machines did run them at one time before I upgraded to Tiger... -Original Message- From: Timothy ducati900fe...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 24, 2010 1:26 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Digital Audio won't boot os9 Hello list, I have a Digital Audio DP533mhz that I want to play old games on, and use old adobe software, pretty much use as a toy, I have a g5 and a macbook pro so I don't need the thing, but I really want to go back to the old days of my imac once in a while. I cannot boot into os9. I have a generic retail 9.2.1 cd that I have tried to install and it almost works. I have installed os9, didnt't work so I replaced the System Folder with the one from the 9.2.1 install cd, and opened it to bless it, but when I restart as I press the option key it offers the hard drive system folder as a boot option then tries to boot, reboots and goes into Panther. 1. I have an Adaptec card that has the 2 hard drives, one on each bus, both are cable select and format fine but 2. They are both over 200 gig. That isn't the problem is it? The card allows for big drives, and is why I got it. 3. It boots from the retail cd fine. 4. I got the computer off ebay and I don't have the original install cds, but places like http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1835 say that 9.2.1, which is written on my retail cd, is supported. 5. 10.3 works great on one of the hard drives, I want os9 solo on the other one and thought it would make it easier. 6. Classic works fine, I tried opening the system folder on the os9 drive in classic to bless it for when it boots off the hard drive but it didn't work. It would change the system folder form a regular folder to one with a smile face on it, but it would boot from the os9 drive for a second then reboot right away into osx. 7. I tried using the sudo bless -folder9 .../path... -use9 or - setBoot from inside osx and it didn't work. 8. I reset the pram a bunch of times. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9
On Sep 24, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: I've been having the same problem too... I think you can not do a dual boot on Panther and higher it will only work with Jaguar and back??? I have a retail copy of OS 9.2.2 that came with my first version of OS 10 and it won't work and all these machines did run them at one time before I upgraded to Tiger... I dual-booted OS 9 and Panther on my clamshell, and I currently have OS 9 and Tiger on a TiBook. (Now the clamshell boots OS 9 and Debian.) :-) Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Solved: Digital Audio won't boot os9
Maybe it was reinstalling os9 AND selecting my os9 system folder as startup disk [i] while installing from the CD[/i] that did it. At any rate I can dual boot fine now. Kris Tilford wrote: On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Timothy wrote: I pulled from the dark recesses of my mind a tidbit about os9 not liking a partition larger than 8gig, so I installed os9 to a partition of 7900 meg at the beginning of the os9 disk. It booted fine. Now to try Classilla! This isn't the right answer. There is no first 8 GB partition limitation for OS 9 or MacOS, the limitation is for OS X on certain models of older Macs, and the Digital Audio is not one of these older Macs that have this firmware limitation. It's nice that you've got OS 9 booting, but you should be able to boot OS 9 from any size partition in any location on the HD on a Digital Audio, so your success is coincidence rather than cause effect. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digital Audio won't boot os9
My retail CD is 9.2.1, that might be why mine works. Richard Gerome wrote: I've been having the same problem too... I think you can not do a dual boot on Panther and higher it will only work with Jaguar and back??? I have a retail copy of OS 9.2.2 that came with my first version of OS 10 and it won't work and all these machines did run them at one time before I upgraded to Tiger... -Original Message- From: Timothy ducati900fe...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 24, 2010 1:26 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Digital Audio won't boot os9 Hello list, I have a Digital Audio DP533mhz that I want to play old games on, and use old adobe software, pretty much use as a toy, I have a g5 and a macbook pro so I don't need the thing, but I really want to go back to the old days of my imac once in a while. I cannot boot into os9. I have a generic retail 9.2.1 cd that I have tried to install and it almost works. I have installed os9, didnt't work so I replaced the System Folder with the one from the 9.2.1 install cd, and opened it to bless it, but when I restart as I press the option key it offers the hard drive system folder as a boot option then tries to boot, reboots and goes into Panther. 1. I have an Adaptec card that has the 2 hard drives, one on each bus, both are cable select and format fine but 2. They are both over 200 gig. That isn't the problem is it? The card allows for big drives, and is why I got it. 3. It boots from the retail cd fine. 4. I got the computer off ebay and I don't have the original install cds, but places like http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1835 say that 9.2.1, which is written on my retail cd, is supported. 5. 10.3 works great on one of the hard drives, I want os9 solo on the other one and thought it would make it easier. 6. Classic works fine, I tried opening the system folder on the os9 drive in classic to bless it for when it boots off the hard drive but it didn't work. It would change the system folder form a regular folder to one with a smile face on it, but it would boot from the os9 drive for a second then reboot right away into osx. 7. I tried using the sudo bless -folder9 .../path... -use9 or - setBoot from inside osx and it didn't work. 8. I reset the pram a bunch of times. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
