Re: Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-15 Thread Dan Ziegler
I think I have found (at least one) culprit. Looking in the
CrashReporter log,
Process: DashboardClient [1171]
...
Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0003ffc0
Crashed Thread:  0

Plus whenever I start Dashboard it triggers the whole speed dump
problem.

Also Bruce I think it needs RAM as well. With Safari and Firefox open
with 4 tabs, mail open, and textedit, I am down to 18 MB of free RAM!

So besides some more RAM what could be wrong w/ Dashboard?
Thanks alot,
Dan

On Apr 11, 9:21 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Dan Ziegler d.ziegle...@gmail.com wrote:

  A long time ago I had a similar thing happen when a USB device went flaky.
  That's possible - but the iMac is all stock HW - Apple kybd. and
  mouse, and no upgrades or other USB devices. Perhaps some other
  (internal) HW? What do you suggest I check?

 The USB device in my case was the hub in an Apple Display.  The system log 
 was full of USB errors.
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Re: Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Dan Ziegler wrote:

 I think I have found (at least one) culprit. Looking in the
 CrashReporter log,
 Process: DashboardClient [1171]
 ...
 Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
 Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0003ffc0
 Crashed Thread:  0
 
 Plus whenever I start Dashboard it triggers the whole speed dump
 problem.
 
 Also Bruce I think it needs RAM as well. With Safari and Firefox open
 with 4 tabs, mail open, and textedit, I am down to 18 MB of free RAM!
 
 So besides some more RAM what could be wrong w/ Dashboard?

It might just be the low RAM available causing this, but what I'd do is start 
by deleting all the active dashboard widgets, then re-adding them one at a 
time. 

If you can't even start dashboard to do this, delete the file 
Users/username/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dashboard.plist then in a 
terminal window type:

killall dock

to force the Dock to quit and restart.

Then add the widgets you use back in one at a time until it breaks. then you 
found the offending one.

If you don't use the Dashboard at all, you can follow the directions here to 
stop it from running:

http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20050723123302403


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Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-11 Thread Dan Ziegler
Hi there,
I have been having some intermittent problems lately with my family's
iMac. About half the time you are using it, all the applications
(Safari, the dock, the Finder, Firefox, Textedit, DVD Player) slow
down to an abysmal crawl. Then about 45 minutes later it will function
perfectly fine. This goes on at about 45 minute periods one way or
another. This is a really bad slowdown - I was playing a DVD the other
night, and it was skipping many seconds of video and audio
intermittently. I don't have any idea what could be going on-there's
not really anything out of the ordinary on this computer.
The specs of the machine if it helps:
April 2008 iMac Penryn
2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
1 GB 800 MHz DDR2
250 GB Disk (about 1/2 full)
Leopard 10.5.8 w/all latest updates
Thanks alot,
Dan Ziegler

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Re: Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-11 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote:

 April 2008 iMac Penryn
 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
 1 GB 800 MHz DDR2 Ding Ding Ding!

Right there is part of your problem, most likely. 1GB RAM is far too low. I'd 
kick that to 4 at least.

http://www.datamemorysystems.com/_apple_info/Apple_Aluminum_Intel_Core_2_Duo_iMac_24_2.4GHz_Memory_1468.asp

Also if it is right at 45 minute intervals, something's happening every 45 
minutes to cause this problem. On my old RAM-starved Core Duo iMac, Time 
Machine would do this, particularly if I was brave enough to be running a 
Windows VM.

I'll wager that kicking up the RAM to a reasonable amount will help.

Also, upgrade that system posthaste to 10.6, that makes Intel systems run a lot 
better.

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Re: Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-11 Thread Dan Ziegler
Well the RAM amount is possible, I know it needs more... but it has
worked great for 1.5 years until about 2 weeks ago this started. (And
will Dad want to spend $70, hmm...) This is really really really slow
- I'm talking slower than my old Sawtooth, 10.4.11 with 384 MB! Maybe
the install is old with age? I'd hate to have to do a clean install.
Plus 10.6 doesn't work with some of our software, so...
Other than those, anything else that could be bogging me down?
Thanks,
Dan

On Apr 11, 1:34 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote:

  April 2008 iMac Penryn
  2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
  1 GB 800 MHz DDR2 Ding Ding Ding!

 Right there is part of your problem, most likely. 1GB RAM is far too low. I'd 
 kick that to 4 at least.

 http://www.datamemorysystems.com/_apple_info/Apple_Aluminum_Intel_Cor...

 Also if it is right at 45 minute intervals, something's happening every 45 
 minutes to cause this problem. On my old RAM-starved Core Duo iMac, Time 
 Machine would do this, particularly if I was brave enough to be running a 
 Windows VM.

 I'll wager that kicking up the RAM to a reasonable amount will help.

 Also, upgrade that system posthaste to 10.6, that makes Intel systems run a 
 lot better.

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 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
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Re: Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-11 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote:

 Well the RAM amount is possible, I know it needs more... but it has
 worked great for 1.5 years until about 2 weeks ago this started. (And
 will Dad want to spend $70, hmm...) This is really really really slow
 - I'm talking slower than my old Sawtooth, 10.4.11 with 384 MB! Maybe
 the install is old with age? I'd hate to have to do a clean install.

No that won't be it. The OS doesn't 'age'. $70 would be a well-spent upgrade.

Look in the System log at the time it starts slowing down, see if you have 
errors being reported. (use the Console app in Utilities)

A long time ago I had a similar thing happen when a USB device went flaky.

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Re: Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-11 Thread Doug McNutt
At 12:13 -0700 4/11/11, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote:

 Well the RAM amount is possible, I know it needs more... but it has
 worked great for 1.5 years until about 2 weeks ago this started. (And
 will Dad want to spend $70, hmm...) This is really really really slow
 - I'm talking slower than my old Sawtooth, 10.4.11 with 384 MB! Maybe
 the install is old with age? I'd hate to have to do a clean install.

No that won't be it. The OS doesn't 'age'. $70 would be a well-spent upgrade.

Look in the System log at the time it starts slowing down, see if you have 
errors being reported. (use the Console app in Utilities)

A long time ago I had a similar thing happen when a USB device went flaky.

Utilities/Activity\ Monitor  might be useful.  You can leave it running and 
watch when a slowdown occurs.

Be sure your periodic updates are getting run regularly. That's the 3AM thing 
that you can execute using sudo from a Terminal.app session any time.

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Re: Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-11 Thread Clark Martin

On Apr 11, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote:
 
 Well the RAM amount is possible, I know it needs more... but it has
 worked great for 1.5 years until about 2 weeks ago this started. (And
 will Dad want to spend $70, hmm...) This is really really really slow
 - I'm talking slower than my old Sawtooth, 10.4.11 with 384 MB! Maybe
 the install is old with age? I'd hate to have to do a clean install.
 
 No that won't be it. The OS doesn't 'age'. $70 would be a well-spent upgrade.
 
 Look in the System log at the time it starts slowing down, see if you have 
 errors being reported. (use the Console app in Utilities)
 
 A long time ago I had a similar thing happen when a USB device went flaky.

That stirs a memory.  I was having a big slow down on my MBP.  I finally fixed 
it by running Disk Repair which fixed a bad directory or something such.  I 
don't know why but something would hit that bad directory and sit there 
twiddling it's thumbs retrying.

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

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Re: Leopard on my iMac

2011-04-11 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Dan Ziegler d.ziegle...@gmail.com wrote:

 A long time ago I had a similar thing happen when a USB device went flaky.
 That's possible - but the iMac is all stock HW - Apple kybd. and
 mouse, and no upgrades or other USB devices. Perhaps some other
 (internal) HW? What do you suggest I check?

The USB device in my case was the hub in an Apple Display.  The system log was 
full of USB errors.
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