OS 10.5 Problem
Greetings, I would recommend that the firs thing to do is reset PRAM and NVRAM and see if that helps! Harry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS 10.5 Problem
I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. In other words the computer has seized and there is no option but to kill the power. When I get the computer restarted I get a nice window offering to send a crash report to Apple (as if they care about an older operating system). Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold down the power button and restart? I operated this computer for years with other operating systems without a freeze or a seize or a crash. I'm thinking I wasted my money on OS 10.5. Anyone have any ideas that might be helpful here? James Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both. I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as possible. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think. -- J. R. Bob Dobbs, 1961 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? James Morgan On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. hold down the power button. This is a kernel panic. It indicates the operating system has encountered an unrecoverable error. It can be caused by software or hardware, or both. I have seen this exact issue when a G5 that previously ran 10.4 well was upgraded to 10.5, became flaky, and eventually suffered a crippling hardware fault. I would check your motherboard, RAM, and cooling system as soon as possible. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think. -- J. R. Bob Dobbs, 1961 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? You could try, but more likely as not the problem will manifest there too. It would allow the computer to at least be useable until you find out what the glitch is. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. -- Socrates --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion. I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is Diskwarrior sufficient? James Morgan On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:04 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
At 5:39 PM + 7/16/2012, James Morgan wrote: I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. [snip] Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold down the power button and restart? As pointed out - you're experiencing a kernel panic. Your next step is to take a look at the system and panic logs. Therein you will find all sorts of nice error messages ... and in the panic log especially, hopefully something that will point to the exact problem. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, James Morgan wrote: I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion. I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is Diskwarrior sufficient? James Morgan DiskWarrior can be magic some times Tech Tool never helped me any more than disk utility. DiskWarrior is my number one goto. Also re install the system can be the fix or a combination of the two. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:39 PM, James Morgan wrote: I get a nice window offering to send a crash report to Apple (as if they care about an older operating system). If you look at this report, you'll see what the reason for the panic is, and might possibly be able to suss out the cause. All of these panics are kept in the system log files, and you can look at them using Console under Log files/Library/LogsPanicReporter. In PanicReporter you'll want to find the line that says: Kernel loadable modules in backtrace and then the next line will show you what the likely cause for the panic was. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
I run G4 450MHz 576Mb had to use speed fake to get 10.5 to install. It is not any better, but is on a 3rd partition the other two are 10.4.11 which works best of all. IMHO it is NOT worth the effort. 10.5 is rather slow and only a few apps require it. JML I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway === --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: From: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net Subject: Re: G4 and OS 10.5 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:27 PM -- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 and OS 10.5 Date: Wednesday, 02. May 2012 From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Il giorno 2-05-2012 18:52, James Morgan ha scritto: I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Keep in mind two things: - With 10.5, you'll lose Classic - Some users experienced a slowing down, going from 10.4 to 10.5. If the above are a concern to you, you might want to have both OSes on two different partitions. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
On May 2, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: I run G4 450MHz 576Mb had to use speed fake to get 10.5 to install. It is not any better, but is on a 3rd partition the other two are 10.4.11 which works best of all. IMHO it is NOT worth the effort. 10.5 is rather slow and only a few apps require it. OS X requires more memory than you have to run well. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 and OS 10.5 Date:Thursday, 03. May 2012 From:Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.netwrote: The slowdown is most noticeable already in Tiger with things like Spotlight indexing in the background (which gladly can be disabled) and Dashboard and TimeMachine and maybe other services that lay hard work on a slow processor and/or use up valuable system memory. - Yet people say Time Machine is a good thing :) Yes, on a fast machine, where it is actually usable. If you disable all that, you should be happy. If you can live with a different backup software, where you decide when to actually perform the backup (preferrably when you're not working on the machine, and when you do _not_ require all the performance it's got for your task) then you will be happier having Time Machine disabled: on a *slow* machine. Time Machine is nice: you can forget about backups, because it will do them for you all the time. This is very fortunate on a fast machine, but it will but the brakes on on a slow machine. For Leopard, I think you really *have to* have a good graphics card that features both, QE and CI. Otherwise it will always feel like you have the brakes on… - Good thing My MDD with a Dell monitor (both NEC monitors died) supports both *ATI Radeon 9000 Pro:* Core Image: Software Core Image is done in software, i.e. the processor has to do it. It should read Supported to be in hardware. For Radeon, as far as I remember, up to and including the 9200: CI is *not* supported. In other words, you will require at least a Radeon 9600 to have CI support. Quartz Extreme: Supported Yes, that's good. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
On May 2, 2012, at 11:57 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: If you disable all that, you should be happy. If you can live with a different backup software, where you decide when to actually perform the backup (preferrably when you're not working on the machine, and when you do _not_ require all the performance it's got for your task) then you will be happier having Time Machine disabled: on a *slow* machine. Time Machine is nice: you can forget about backups, because it will do them for you all the time. This is very fortunate on a fast machine, but it will but the brakes on on a slow machine. You can change the timing of when Time Machine runs by editing a .plist: http://www.trickyways.com/2010/04/how-to-change-time-machine-backup-interval-on-mac-os-x/ Back when I had a ram-starved iMac, Time Machine would cause a big hit, so I set it to a 24 hour interval, and logged in remotely very late one night and fired it off. After that it ran every 24 hours at that time, so it did my backups when I wasn't there. Not much help if you need every cycle you can get at 3 AM, too, but if you're pounding it *that* hard, what the heck are you using such an underpowered machine for? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
You can just go to the Time Machine preference and switch it to off. This just turns of the automatic backup. If you keep Time Machine in your menu bar then you can click on Back Up Now whenever you want one like when you're taking lunch. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 and OS 10.5 Date:Thursday, 03. May 2012 From:Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com You can change the timing of when Time Machine runs by editing a .plist: http://www.trickyways.com/2010/04/how-to-change-time-machine-backup-interv al-on-mac-os-x/ Back when I had a ram-starved iMac, Time Machine would cause a big hit, so I set it to a 24 hour interval, and logged in remotely very late one night and fired it off. After that it ran every 24 hours at that time, so it did my backups when I wasn't there. Good idea. Not much help if you need every cycle you can get at 3 AM, too, but if you're pounding it *that* hard, what the heck are you using such an underpowered machine for? Good point. On the other hand, to be able to run some applications (that may or may not be processor intensive) you sometimes need at least 10.4 Tiger or 10.5 Leopard. That may be the reason for going for Leopard in the first place. And then it may be a good thing to turn off Spotlight/Dashboard/TimeMachine. To clarify: a slow machine is anything slower than a Dual-867 Power Mac G4. Althou I would also go with a Dual-800 Quicksilver and a good graphics card (i.e. GeForce 6200 or Radeon 9600). A good graphics card in one of those G4s will always be a boost in user experience… I also once used Leopard on a Power Mac G4 AGP Graphics and on a Cube, both with 450 MHz PowerPC 7400/7410 and an ATi Rage 128. I can tell you: no fun! But, and this is strange in a way: on my Power Mac G5 Dual-2.0 GHz (original, 2003) I also sometimes have to /wait/ for… what?… for Mac OS to get going. It could be faster. I'm used to not have to wait on my PC under Linux. But this wasn't always so, it's just that modern processors and graphics cards are sooo fast, that they will cover for poorly programmed applications. -- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 and OS 10.5 Date:Thursday, 03. May 2012 From:Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com You can just go to the Time Machine preference and switch it to off. This just turns of the automatic backup. If you keep Time Machine in your menu bar then you can click on Back Up Now whenever you want one like when you're taking lunch. Well argued. I forgot about that. This may be the best solution on a slow machine. Thanks, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 and OS 10.5
I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Thanks for your help. James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
On May 2, 2012, at 9:52 AM, James Morgan wrote: I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Unless they're RAM-starved ( 1G, and pretty cheap to fix) yes they'll run 10.5 just fine. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
Il giorno 2-05-2012 18:52, James Morgan ha scritto: I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Keep in mind two things: - With 10.5, you'll lose Classic - Some users experienced a slowing down, going from 10.4 to 10.5. If the above are a concern to you, you might want to have both OSes on two different partitions. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
My dual1.25 Mdd is doing very well with 10.5, not faster than tiger just different I love it. The greater the animal, the greater the man On May 2, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 2, 2012, at 9:52 AM, James Morgan wrote: I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Unless they're RAM-starved ( 1G, and pretty cheap to fix) yes they'll run 10.5 just fine. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
On May 2, 2012, at 9:52 AM, James Morgan wrote: I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Thanks for your help. James K Morgan They will run 10.5.8. 867MHz processor is the slowest recommended speed for 10.5. the faster the better. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 and OS 10.5 Date:Wednesday, 02. May 2012 From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Il giorno 2-05-2012 18:52, James Morgan ha scritto: I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Keep in mind two things: - With 10.5, you'll lose Classic - Some users experienced a slowing down, going from 10.4 to 10.5. If the above are a concern to you, you might want to have both OSes on two different partitions. IMHO on Leopard (compared to Tiger) the slowdown is mostly due to lack of Quartz Extreme and Core Image on the graphics performance side (meaning: _not_ processor performance). The slowdown is most noticeable already in Tiger with things like Spotlight indexing in the background (which gladly can be disabled) and Dashboard and TimeMachine and maybe other services that lay hard work on a slow processor and/or use up valuable system memory. If you disable all that, you should be happy. Additionally, you can get rid of some eye-candy that will load your graphics card (and processor, if you graphics card is without QE/CI) unnecessarily. http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/performance.html (Very good on systems with /old/ graphics cards, such as a ATi Rage 128 or so.) For Leopard, I think you really *have to* have a good graphics card that features both, QE and CI. Otherwise it will always feel like you have the brakes on… Just my 2¢ Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.netwrote: The slowdown is most noticeable already in Tiger with things like Spotlight indexing in the background (which gladly can be disabled) and Dashboard and TimeMachine and maybe other services that lay hard work on a slow processor and/or use up valuable system memory. - Yet people say Time Machine is a good thing :) If you disable all that, you should be happy. Additionally, you can get rid of some eye-candy that will load your graphics card (and processor, if you graphics card is without QE/CI) unnecessarily. http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/performance.html (Very good on systems with /old/ graphics cards, such as a ATi Rage 128 or so.) For Leopard, I think you really *have to* have a good graphics card that features both, QE and CI. Otherwise it will always feel like you have the brakes on… - Good thing My MDD with a Dell monitor (both NEC monitors died) supports both *ATI Radeon 9000 Pro:* Chipset Model: ATY,RV250 Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 128 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID: 0x4966 Revision ID: 0x0001 ROM Revision: 113-99703-127 Displays: *DELL D1025TM:* Resolution: 1024 x 768 @ 85 Hz Depth: 32-Bit Color Core Image: Software Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported *Display Connector:* Status: No Display Connected -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
On May 2, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: The slowdown is most noticeable already in Tiger with things like Spotlight indexing in the background (which gladly can be disabled) and Dashboard and TimeMachine and maybe other services that lay hard work on a slow processor and/or use up valuable system memory. - Yet people say Time Machine is a good thing :) It is, as is Spotlight. Both are vastly better under 10.5, too. (Spotlight, in particular, is actually usable!) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
From my understanding an upgrade in OSX wasn't really an upgrade. It would do a full install of the operating system and then copy the user files/apps and preferences(making sure the compatible ones were kept and the others tossed/converted. On Jul 27, 12:23 pm, imrazor evol...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 27, 11:50 am, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: This is incorrect. All $29 retail Snow Leopard disks are full versions, capable of being installed on any machine, even one which has no OS of any kind at all. THERE WERE NO retail UPGRADE DISKS! -snip- You are absolutely correct that there is no *technical* barrier to doing a full install of SL from an upgrade disc. However, to the best of my knowledge, the licensing on the $29 disc is for an upgrade, not a full install. I quote from this Apple press releasehttp://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/08/24Apple-to-Ship-Mac-OS-X-Snow... Apple to Ship Mac OS X Snow Leopard on August 28 CUPERTINO, California—August 24, 2009—Apple® today announced that Mac OS® X v10.6 Snow Leopard™ will go on sale Friday, August 28 at Apple’s retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers, and that Apple’s online store is now accepting pre-orders. Snow Leopard builds on a decade of OS X innovation and success with hundreds of refinements, new core technologies and out of the box support for Microsoft Exchange. Snow Leopard will be available as an upgrade for Mac OS X Leopard® users for $29. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Alexander Gomes wrote: From my understanding an upgrade in OSX wasn't really an upgrade. It would do a full install of the operating system and then copy the user files/apps and preferences(making sure the compatible ones were kept and the others tossed/converted. That's why I call it 'switching' instead of 'upgrading'. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
On Jul 26, 8:14 pm, irrational John zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, there's that. But it is also because Apple has always charged ~$30 for Snow Leopard. Why? Who knows? In any case, the asking price is not going to be (much) more than what Apple is selling it for. (I believe Apple is still selling SL. After all, how else can someone upgrade to Lion if they have Leopard? They have to first install SL and update it so they can then use the app store to then install Lion, no?) It seems to me that Apple was more concerned with promoting the adoption of Snow Leopard ... and now Lion ... then they were with generating revenue per se from the release. Why is Apple giving an extra monetary incentive to encourage people to adopt its latest versions of OS X? Beats me. -irrational john IIRC, this is because the $29 Snow Leopard disc is an upgrade disc intended to be installed over Leopard. For Intel Tiger users, the official upgrade path was to use something the called the Max Box Set which was considerably more expensive, but also included iLife. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Snow_Leopard#License Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
IIRC, this is because the $29 Snow Leopard disc is an upgrade disc intended to be installed over Leopard. This is incorrect. All $29 retail Snow Leopard disks are full versions, capable of being installed on any machine, even one which has no OS of any kind at all. THERE WERE NO retail UPGRADE DISKS! Snow Leopard was indeed retail priced as if it was an upgrade, but it was a full version from the git go. Not only is there no requirement for Leopard to be on the target machine, you can even install Snow Leopard on a Hackintosh, using only the iBOOT CD as a helper to launch the Snow Leopard Installer. iBOOT is a Linux application which prepares the machine for a full installation of Snow Leopard. Lion is also priced as if it was an upgrade, but it is also a full version. There are a number of ways of installing Lion on a Hckintosh, only one of which requires Snow Leopard. The Lion installation method which does not require Snow Leopard at all resides on a USB flash drive and the Lion application is ripped apart (saving just the Lion Installer) and moved onto the USB flash drive. This is done using the mkboot script in TERMINAL. You would boot the USB flash drive and the next thing you see is the Lion Installer popping on the screen. Once the Lion installation was complete, you would boot the USB flash drive again and then use the finalize script in TERMINAL to write the boot loader to the hard drive. Thereafter, Lion boots directly from the hard drive without any other assistance. Now, Apple's Lion installation method does indeed require Snow Leopard to be on the target machine, because Apple's Lion installation procedure was written as an application, not as an installer. However, the full installer is indeed contained within the application, and those who are in the know will know how to use that installer. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
On Jul 27, 11:50 am, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: This is incorrect. All $29 retail Snow Leopard disks are full versions, capable of being installed on any machine, even one which has no OS of any kind at all. THERE WERE NO retail UPGRADE DISKS! -snip- You are absolutely correct that there is no *technical* barrier to doing a full install of SL from an upgrade disc. However, to the best of my knowledge, the licensing on the $29 disc is for an upgrade, not a full install. I quote from this Apple press release http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/08/24Apple-to-Ship-Mac-OS-X-Snow-Leopard-on-August-28.html Apple to Ship Mac OS X Snow Leopard on August 28 CUPERTINO, California—August 24, 2009—Apple® today announced that Mac OS® X v10.6 Snow Leopard™ will go on sale Friday, August 28 at Apple’s retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers, and that Apple’s online store is now accepting pre-orders. Snow Leopard builds on a decade of OS X innovation and success with hundreds of refinements, new core technologies and out of the box support for Microsoft Exchange. Snow Leopard will be available as an upgrade for Mac OS X Leopard® users for $29. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS 10.5
I would like to purchase Mac OS 10.5 for my iMac Intel Duo currently running OS 10.4.11. Where can I purchase one and what would be a good price to pay? What should I beware of in the way of copies and scams? I have two GB's of memory and a one terra byte hard drive with a lot of free space (898.46 GB). Thank you -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:41 AM, John Callahan wrote: I would like to purchase Mac OS 10.5 for my iMac Intel Duo currently running OS 10.4.11. Where can I purchase one and what would be a good price to pay? What should I beware of in the way of copies and scams? I have two GB's of memory and a one terra byte hard drive with a lot of free space (898.46 GB). Thank you The usual suspects, fleabay and LEM swaplist; you want a real retail disk, which has the Aurora on it http://tinyurl.com/3cbrtxj; gray disks are system specific, so you need to make sure it's for a core duo iMac. Personally I'd go right on by 10.5 and look for 10.6, at least; if that's a Core Duo system that's the top limit you can get to; and there's not much that wasn't compatible with 10.5 on those that doesn't run in 10.6, and 10.6 is a noticeable performance upgrade over 10.5. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Personally I'd go right on by 10.5 and look for 10.6, at least; if that's a Core Duo system that's the top limit you can get to; and there's not much that wasn't compatible with 10.5 on those that doesn't run in 10.6, and 10.6 is a noticeable performance upgrade over 10.5. I believe Bruce failed to mention the price difference. Snow Leopard (10.6) can still be purchased from online retailers for $30 (or less in some cases). Leopard (10.5) will typically run you around $90 or more on eBay. (At least that's the price range I'm used to seeing Leopard auctions finish at). There's also the fact that I believe Apple will still do (only) security updates to Snow Leopard until they release whatever 10.8 turns out to be. This ain't much, but it's something. Unless you have some special consideration such as PPC hardware which limits you to using Leopard, I would also suggest moving up to Snow Leopard. www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/08/27/apples_snow_leopard_disc_will_install_on_tiger_macs.html Just as a sanity check, you DID say you have an Intel version of the iMac, correct? Out of curiosity, which one? (Snow Leopard runs ONLY on Intel Macs). -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
Wow, that's quite the difference, why is SL so much cheaper than Leo? On Jul 26, 6:28 pm, John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe Bruce failed to mention the price difference. Snow Leopard (10.6) can still be purchased from online retailers for $30 (or less in some cases). Leopard (10.5) will typically run you around $90 or more on eBay. (At least that's the price range I'm used to seeing Leopard auctions finish at). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
SL is in greater supply...it's been almost two years since apple stopped selling 10.5 and about a week since they stopped selling 10.6. On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:30 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Wow, that's quite the difference, why is SL so much cheaper than Leo? On Jul 26, 6:28 pm, John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe Bruce failed to mention the price difference. Snow Leopard (10.6) can still be purchased from online retailers for $30 (or less in some cases). Leopard (10.5) will typically run you around $90 or more on eBay. (At least that's the price range I'm used to seeing Leopard auctions finish at). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
Wow, that's quite the difference, why is SL so much cheaper than Leo? Apple has revised its MacOS X marketing strategy several times. 10.5 cost way, way more than 10.6. 10.7 non-server cost the same as 10.6 non-server. The 10.7 server option costs only $50, which is about one-fifth the cost of 10.6 Server. Given the realities of the marketplace, you always want to go with the latest, because it is best, and it is also at the same or much lower cost. I own a license to 10.3 server and 10.5 server (unlimited clients). I avoided 10.6 server on account of cost (I only run the server version on a PPC, anyway), but I intend to buy 10.7 server (and to run it on an Intel Hackintosh). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: SL is in greater supply...it's been almost two years since apple stopped selling 10.5 and about a week since they stopped selling 10.6. Yes, there's that. But it is also because Apple has always charged ~$30 for Snow Leopard. Why? Who knows? In any case, the asking price is not going to be (much) more than what Apple is selling it for. (I believe Apple is still selling SL. After all, how else can someone upgrade to Lion if they have Leopard? They have to first install SL and update it so they can then use the app store to then install Lion, no?) It seems to me that Apple was more concerned with promoting the adoption of Snow Leopard ... and now Lion ... then they were with generating revenue per se from the release. Why is Apple giving an extra monetary incentive to encourage people to adopt its latest versions of OS X? Beats me. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS 10.5
Anyone know where I can buy OS 10.5 for my G4 Intel Mac? Thanks John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.¨ --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:01 PM, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com wrote: Anyone know where I can buy OS 10.5 for my G4 Intel Mac? G4 Intel ??? Which is it? A G4 or an Intel? http://www.google.com/products?q=Mac+OS+X+leopard+-snow+-server+-familyhl=enaq=f -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5
At 6:01 PM -0500 1/14/2010, John Callahan wrote: Anyone know where I can buy OS 10.5 for my G4 Intel Mac? No such things as a G4 Intel anything. G4 is a PowerPC, made by IBM/Motorola/Freescale (depending on the exact processor model). The Core x86 processors are made by Intel. That twain don't meet. IF you have a PowerPC based Mac, then look on LEM Swap for a retail OS X 10.5 kit. That's about the best place pricewise. IF you have an Intel based Mac, then skip Leopard - go directly to Snow Leopard. The OS X 10.6 Update is only $29; available from most of your normal stores. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OS 10.5
Is upgrading a 867 MDD to 10.5 advisable or let it alone? Bailey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.5
If you using that machine is your main computer... upgrade... If it is secondary... Just stay on 10.4 2009/5/23 lbte...@aol.com Is upgrading a 867 MDD to 10.5 advisable or let it alone? Bailey -- *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585033x1201462753/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=115%26bcd=Mayfooter52309NO115 * -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.5
On May 23, 2009, at 12:55 PM, lbte...@aol.com wrote: Is upgrading a 867 MDD to 10.5 advisable or let it alone? Probably best at 10.4.11, although 10.5 is also OK. 10.5 is best on dual processors which are significantly faster that 1.0 GHz. 10.5.7 works great on a quad 3.2 Intel and a dual 3.6 Intel in my shop. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.5
I think 10.4.11 would be advisable on a machine like that, from what I've read, 10.5 works best on 1GHz and higher machines. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.5
On May 23, 2009, at 12:55 PM, lbte...@aol.com wrote: Is upgrading a 867 MDD to 10.5 advisable or let it alone? Bailey I'm running 10.5.? (Can't remember which iteration) on a DA 733 and it is quite usable. It is not way fast, but usable. I would keep 10.4.x unless Leopard has features you can't live without! ;-) Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.5
On May 23, 2009, at 3:55 PM, lbte...@aol.com wrote: Is upgrading a 867 MDD to 10.5 advisable or let it alone? Bailey Owning the same computer I would have to say stay with 10.4. I tried 10.5 on an upgraded DA (1.6 Ghz) and it seemed sluggish to me. So much so that I decided to not even try it on the MDD. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.5
On May 23, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Doug Burton wrote: On May 23, 2009, at 3:55 PM, lbte...@aol.com wrote: Is upgrading a 867 MDD to 10.5 advisable or let it alone? Bailey Owning the same computer I would have to say stay with 10.4. I tried 10.5 on an upgraded DA (1.6 Ghz) and it seemed sluggish to me. So much so that I decided to not even try it on the MDD. I downgraded my 1.58 GHz Mini from Leopard back to Tiger specifically because Leopard was sluggish. Benchmark archives for XBench and Geekbench show about a 20% across the board slowdown for PPC Macs from Tiger to Leopard, and about a 20% speedup for Intel Macs. I'm using my PPC Mini as a media center computer, and it can't play HD video smoothly in Leopard, and just barely in Tiger, but just barely is just barely good enough. Stick with Tiger. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
