Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[t...@io.com]

On Feb 23, 9:49 am, Bruce - in Orlando 
wrote:
> Not true.  I direct your attention 
> to:http://lowendmac.com/musings/07/0522.html

> Also, I should note that the ebay auction stated:
> "Applies to Following Computers: Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) and
> Power Mac G4 (all models)"
> not that I would put a lot of faith in what an ebay ad description
> says ...


Look again, Bruce.  The text you quote is for the software that
accompanies the upgrade.   The actual compatibility list is as
follows:
===
Compatible Macintosh Models
•
Power Mac G4 (Digital Audio)
•
Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver 2001)
•
Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver 2002 )


It's easy to get confused, but in general, upgrades for the earlier G4
models do not work in the MDD.

Jeff Walther

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Feb 19, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Ashgrove  wrote:

> 
> The NERVE! Why haven't they been kicked out of the LEM Swap? Oh, wait,
> they're not on the Swap...
The LEM lists owner does that for his own protection. Apple can sue for that 
kind of stuff. Smalldog may have an agreement in place with Apple to do this 
that's simply not mentioned in the ad; they ARE an authorized Apple Dealer.

-- 
Bruce 


-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Ashgrove]

On Feb 19, 3:43 pm, Alex Barnes  wrote:
> A dual 1.8 G4 in 9.2? I can't even imagine how fast that would be.

Very fast... except it wouldn't be dual. OS 9 lacks dual processor
support, IIRC.

Felix

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Ashgrove]

On Feb 19, 3:10 pm, Dan  wrote:
> That they've put Leopard on it is fine, but then they should be
> including the media!  If they're not including the retail Leopard
> discs, then that makes the copy of Leopard on the machine *pirated*.
> Not cool.


The NERVE! Why haven't they been kicked out of the LEM Swap? Oh, wait,
they're not on the Swap...

Felix

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Bruce - in Orlando]

Not true.  I direct your attention to:
http://lowendmac.com/musings/07/0522.html

an article titled "3 CPU Upgrades for Mirror Drive Door G4 Power Macs"
where Dan Knight wrote:

"I sent emails to Sonnet Technology, Newer Technology, FastMac, and
Daystar Technology asking:

"'I've wondered myself for some time, as the owner of a Mirror Drive
Door Power Mac G4 (the original OS 9-bootable dual 1 GHz one) why
there seem to be no CPU upgrades for the last two generations of G4
Power Macs ...'

"Martin Muggee, Marketing Communications Manager at Sonnet
Technologies, wrote:

"'At this time ... we have offered dual 7447A processor-based
upgrades, available in 1.6 and 1.8 GHz upgrades (Encore/MDX G4 Duet)
since October last year ...'

"The 1.6 GHz ... and the 1.8 GHz ... both use the PowerPC 7447A CPU,
which has a 512 MB level 2 cache - twice as large as in the PowerPC
7455 used in my Power Mac. At a minimum, the 1.6 GHz one should
provide 60% more processing power than my dual 1 GHz Power Mac already
has ..."

At the time he was writing this, Dan had the exact same model MDD I
now have.

Also, I should note that the ebay auction stated:
"Applies to Following Computers: Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) and
Power Mac G4 (all models)"
not that I would put a lot of faith in what an ebay ad description
says ...

PS - At this point, both of the units offered in the auction have been
sold - but not to me.

Bruce - in Orlando

On Feb 22, 12:56�pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
> > I believe that the upgrade which the original poster linked to does
> > not support the MDD. �At least, the item description seemed to list
> > all the G4s except the MDD.
>
> That board is specifically for 133 MHz bus machines ... DAs or QSes.
>
> Giga-Designs had a board which was specifically designed for either 100
> MHz or 133 MHz bus machines. The fan unit could be moved to accommodate
> the different mounting requirements found on the two different models (100
> MHz and 133 MHz).

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[peterhaas]

> I believe that the upgrade which the original poster linked to does
> not support the MDD.  At least, the item description seemed to list
> all the G4s except the MDD.

That board is specifically for 133 MHz bus machines ... DAs or QSes.

Giga-Designs had a board which was specifically designed for either 100
MHz or 133 MHz bus machines. The fan unit could be moved to accommodate
the different mounting requirements found on the two different models (100
MHz and 133 MHz).



-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[t...@io.com]

On Feb 19, 5:47 pm, Bruce - in Orlando 
wrote:

>  So the idea of tricking out my MDD before I give
> up on it just seems like more fun than tossing the old gal and moving
> on to an Intel Mac.  There will be plenty of time for that.
>
> NOT that I'm necessarily ready to pay $266 + $20 shipping ...

I believe that the upgrade which the original poster linked to does
not support the MDD.  At least, the item description seemed to list
all the G4s except the MDD.

Jeff Walther

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Bruce - in Orlando]

Well, for anyone who might be interested and saw that I did in fact
place an "In Search Of" post on the Swap List looking for anyone
willing to sell their Dual 1.8 GHz Sonnet Duet CPU Upgrade for less
than the amount shown in the ebay auction ($266+$20 shipping), I got
exactly zero responses.  Meanwhile, one of the two units that was
available in that auction has sold.

But after thinking about it over the weekend, I think I need a new(er)
powerbook more than I need this toy, so I'll be looking around for
that first.

Bruce - in Orlando

On Feb 20, 11:25 am, Al Poulin  wrote:
> On Feb 19, 2:36 pm, iJohn  wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Al Poulin  wrote:
>
> > > > If you are willing to spend $286, look here for a used Mac mini
> > > > G4/1.25GHz for $199.99, plus shipping, but no disks included.
> > > > The e-mail bulletin said 10.5 Leopard is pre-installed.
>
> > > Oh, oh, forgot the link:
> > >http://www.smalldog.com/product/77343
>
> > OK, but ...
>
> > When I followed your link the price I saw at Small Dog was $299.99, not 
> > $199.99.
>
> I see, sorry.  There is another link that shows up from their e-mail
> bulletin for the discount price, maybe only for former 
> customers:http://www.smalldog.com/wag20569/at_dr
>
> I do not know how I landed on this variant - product/77343 instead of
> the discount page wag20569/at_dr.
>
> Expires in two days.
>
> And I agree with what Dan said, the Leopard seems "pirated."  I've
> seen other third party vendors do that with used Macs.  Is there some
> back door deal with Apple for a license??  SmallDog is
>
> Al Poulin

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Al Poulin]

On Feb 19, 2:36 pm, iJohn  wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Al Poulin  wrote:
>
> > > If you are willing to spend $286, look here for a used Mac mini
> > > G4/1.25GHz for $199.99, plus shipping, but no disks included.
> > > The e-mail bulletin said 10.5 Leopard is pre-installed.
>
> > Oh, oh, forgot the link:
> >http://www.smalldog.com/product/77343
>
> OK, but ...
>
> When I followed your link the price I saw at Small Dog was $299.99, not 
> $199.99.

I see, sorry.  There is another link that shows up from their e-mail
bulletin for the discount price, maybe only for former customers:
http://www.smalldog.com/wag20569/at_dr

I do not know how I landed on this variant - product/77343 instead of
the discount page wag20569/at_dr.

Expires in two days.

And I agree with what Dan said, the Leopard seems "pirated."  I've
seen other third party vendors do that with used Macs.  Is there some
back door deal with Apple for a license??  SmallDog is

Al Poulin

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[JoeTaxpayer]

I'd not compare the mini to a MDD G4.
The G4 has 6 bays, room for four PCI cards, etc.
I'd need to see the mini benchmarks, but it didn't grab me when it
first came out.

> For some people, it's not about bang for the buck. A true hobbyist can
> derive great satisfaction from resurrecting, restoring, or upgrading old
> hardware. This applies to computers, electric trains, automobiles, etc…
>
> Sometimes it's the journey that matters, not the destination.
> Tina

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Tina K.]

On 2011/02/19 00:14, Ashgrove so eloquently wrote:

One way or the other, I do agree with John et al: it's not good value.
For less than $286, I bought a perfectly good Intel mini that runs
circles around ANY G4 computer. We get very attached to these
versatile old beasts that keep on going, but we gotta draw the line
somewhere. Just saying. Don't shoot me. Just look at the numbers.


For some people, it's not about bang for the buck. A true hobbyist can 
derive great satisfaction from resurrecting, restoring, or upgrading old 
hardware. This applies to computers, electric trains, automobiles, etc…


Sometimes it's the journey that matters, not the destination.
Tina

--

iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11

PB G4 15" HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8

Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Bruce - in Orlando]

Well, there you go.  One of the main reasons I got this dual 1 GHz MDD
a few years ago is that it boots so nicely into 9.2.2.  I can still
cling to some of my ancient software and still easily get to the many
files that are in that ancient software.  in fact, I took the HD out
my previous G3 B&W and plugged it in here as a slave drive.

Also, I have had a long personal ove affair with accelerator cards
starting way back with the Daystar 50 mhz accelerator card for my Mac
IIsi.  I still have Performa 580 with a motherboard from a 6500
plugged in - AND a Sonnet G3 accelerator card plugged into that! (and
a USB/Firewire combo card too!).  Also a Power Color Classic with a
6500 mobo & G3 card.  So the idea of tricking out my MDD before I give
up on it just seems like more fun than tossing the old gal and moving
on to an Intel Mac.  There will be plenty of time for that.

NOT that I'm necessarily ready to pay $266 + $20 shipping ...

Bruce - in Orlando

On Feb 19, 2:25 pm, John Carmonne  wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Ashgrove wrote:
>
>
>
> > One way or the other, I do agree with John et al: it's not good value.
> > For less than $286, I bought a perfectly good Intel mini that runs
> > circles around ANY G4 computer. We get very attached to these
> > versatile old beasts that keep on going, but we gotta draw the line
> > somewhere. Just saying. Don't shoot me. Just look at the numbers.
>
> > Best,
>
> > Felix
>
>  Well IMHO In defense of the Dual 1.8 upgrade, some of us Mac addicts like to 
> get the old dogs dancing in the alley. Theres something to be said about the 
> wind up of the PM G4 fans not to spaek of being able to boot OS 9.2.2 which 
> the Mini's lack both features.
>
> John Carmonne
> Yorba Linda CA
> 92886 USA
> Sent from my MBP

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[John Carmonne]

On Feb 19, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Alex Barnes wrote:

> A dual 1.8 G4 in 9.2? I can't even imagine how fast that would be.
>> 

It is darn fast on a MDD 1.25 In my case I have CAD/CAM software that needs to 
run from native OS7.5 to 9.2.2 so the combination of Tiger and 9 is something 
necessary here but I do like my Mini and PM G5.



John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
Sent from my MBP





-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Alex Barnes]

A dual 1.8 G4 in 9.2? I can't even imagine how fast that would be.
> 
> Well IMHO In defense of the Dual 1.8 upgrade, some of us Mac addicts like to 
> get the old dogs dancing in the alley. Theres something to be said about the 
> wind up of the PM G4 fans not to spaek of being able to boot OS 9.2.2 which 
> the Mini's lack both features.
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[John Carmonne]

On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Ashgrove wrote:

> 
> 
> One way or the other, I do agree with John et al: it's not good value.
> For less than $286, I bought a perfectly good Intel mini that runs
> circles around ANY G4 computer. We get very attached to these
> versatile old beasts that keep on going, but we gotta draw the line
> somewhere. Just saying. Don't shoot me. Just look at the numbers.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Felix
> 

 Well IMHO In defense of the Dual 1.8 upgrade, some of us Mac addicts like to 
get the old dogs dancing in the alley. Theres something to be said about the 
wind up of the PM G4 fans not to spaek of being able to boot OS 9.2.2 which the 
Mini's lack both features.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
Sent from my MBP

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Dan]

At 2:36 PM -0500 2/19/2011, iJohn wrote:

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Al Poulin  wrote:
 > http://www.smalldog.com/product/77343
[snip]
Also, I'm not immediately seeing how 10.5 Leopard can be pre-installed
if no disks are included. Unless they mean "discs" as in the install
DVD media is not included. If that's the case it makes more sense but
it also adds another potential wrinkle to the purchase.




This model shipped with OS X 10.3.7.  It is possible that Apple may 
still have the original DVD media, that contains Panther and the 
bundled apps.  If they do, then they'll only charge you a modest 
replacement fee.


That they've put Leopard on it is fine, but then they should be 
including the media!  If they're not including the retail Leopard 
discs, then that makes the copy of Leopard on the machine *pirated*. 
Not cool.


- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[iJohn]

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Al Poulin  wrote:
>
> > If you are willing to spend $286, look here for a used Mac mini
> > G4/1.25GHz for $199.99, plus shipping, but no disks included.
> > The e-mail bulletin said 10.5 Leopard is pre-installed.
>
> Oh, oh, forgot the link:
> http://www.smalldog.com/product/77343
>

OK, but ...

When I followed your link the price I saw at Small Dog was $299.99, not $199.99.

Also, I'm not immediately seeing how 10.5 Leopard can be pre-installed
if no disks are included. Unless they mean "discs" as in the install
DVD media is not included. If that's the case it makes more sense but
it also adds another potential wrinkle to the purchase.

-irrational john

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Bruce]

Al Poulin wrote:


On Feb 19, 1:53 pm, Al Poulin  wrote:
   

... look here for a used Mac mini
G4/1.25GHz for $199.99, plus shipping, but no disks included.  The e-
mail bulletin said 10.5 Leopard is pre-installed.

Al Poulin
 

Oh, oh, forgot the link:
http://www.smalldog.com/product/77343

By the way, my only affiliation with Small Dog is to be an occasional
customer.

Al Poulin
   


Hello Al,

The Mini ad you listed shows a price of $299.00, not $199.00.

Bruce

--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Sri Gupta]

On Feb 18, 9:55 am, Richard Gerome  wrote:
>    He is not 100% but 99.8%... What I would do if I was you is check all his 
> feedback from everyone looking for the negative ones and reading them by 
> clicking on the feedback link
>by his user name... Then you decide from that if you want to buy from them?

You can check for negative feedback using Toolhaus.

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=tangaishi&Dirn=Received+by&Many=ON&ref=home

-sri

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Al Poulin]

On Feb 19, 1:53 pm, Al Poulin  wrote:
> On Feb 18, 10:45 am, bhossfield  wrote:
>
> > I am looking at this item on 
> > ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/SONNET-ENCORE-ST-G4-DUET-1-8G-MAC-UPGRADE-CPU-PRO...
>
> > It's a private auction, seller based in China who claims to have 100% 
> > positive
> > feedback.
>
> > If you were actually willing to spend $266 + $20 shipping on one of these
> > things, would you have reservations about this seller?  Does anybody out 
> > there
> > have experience with this seller and could put my mind at ease?
>
> If you are willing to spend $286, look here for a used Mac mini
> G4/1.25GHz for $199.99, plus shipping, but no disks included.  The e-
> mail bulletin said 10.5 Leopard is pre-installed.
>
> Al Poulin

Oh, oh, forgot the link:
http://www.smalldog.com/product/77343

By the way, my only affiliation with Small Dog is to be an occasional
customer.

Al Poulin

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Al Poulin]

On Feb 18, 10:45 am, bhossfield  wrote:
> I am looking at this item on 
> ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/SONNET-ENCORE-ST-G4-DUET-1-8G-MAC-UPGRADE-CPU-PRO...
>
> It's a private auction, seller based in China who claims to have 100% positive
> feedback.
>
> If you were actually willing to spend $266 + $20 shipping on one of these
> things, would you have reservations about this seller?  Does anybody out there
> have experience with this seller and could put my mind at ease?
>

If you are willing to spend $286, look here for a used Mac mini
G4/1.25GHz for $199.99, plus shipping, but no disks included.  The e-
mail bulletin said 10.5 Leopard is pre-installed.

Al Poulin

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Ashgrove]

Bruce,

My personal experience with Chinese eBay sellers has been mixed. Most
of the time, they are perfectly kosher, but if anything goes wrong,
you have to ship the item back... to China...

The fact that I barely speak English and they tend to barely speak
Mandarin or Cantonese has never been a big help.

One way or the other, I do agree with John et al: it's not good value.
For less than $286, I bought a perfectly good Intel mini that runs
circles around ANY G4 computer. We get very attached to these
versatile old beasts that keep on going, but we gotta draw the line
somewhere. Just saying. Don't shoot me. Just look at the numbers.

Best,

Felix


On Feb 18, 10:45 am, bhossfield  wrote:
> I am looking at this item on 
> ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/SONNET-ENCORE-ST-G4-DUET-1-8G-MAC-UPGRADE-CPU-PRO...
>
> It's a private auction, seller based in China who claims to have 100% positive
> feedback.
>
> If you were actually willing to spend $266 + $20 shipping on one of these
> things, would you have reservations about this seller?  Does anybody out there
> have experience with this seller and could put my mind at ease?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bruce - in Orlando

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Jonas Lopez]

You  listers make me mad! 
When I reported my problems with ebay I caught H*** from several of you, yet 
here your all being so nice and with a company your NEVER GOING TO COLLECT FROM 
if there is a problem. 
Shame on you.
And I suppose you will not post this message for one reason or another.

JML.
> It's good to hear from LEM people who have had good experiences with
> this seller.  That makes me feel better than a thousand ebay
> comments.  I didn't mean to say there's anything wrong with a seller
> in China, just that it's a private auction by a seller on the other
> side of the Earth.  As to the price being a bit high, I'd be happy to
> talk to anybody that has one of these for sale at a lower price! (but
> I guess I would need to do that on the Swap List ... ).
> 
> Bruce - in Orlando



  

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[JoeTaxpayer]

$266 for dual 1.8GHz G4?
I paid less than that for my Dual 1.42GHz 2GB mem.
Is a 25% speed bump worth that cost?

(Don't get me wrong, I still love the MDD G4s in my house, running 3
of them, even though I have a Mac Pro. Just want to know where the
value is here. An otherwise 4 hr video encode drops to a bit over 3?
Not too exciting.)

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Alex Barnes]

I have a dual 1.3 GHz Sonnet Encore ST/G4 duet that you can have for $100.

On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Bruce - in Orlando wrote:

> It's good to hear from LEM people who have had good experiences with
> this seller.  That makes me feel better than a thousand ebay
> comments.  I didn't mean to say there's anything wrong with a seller
> in China, just that it's a private auction by a seller on the other
> side of the Earth.  As to the price being a bit high, I'd be happy to
> talk to anybody that has one of these for sale at a lower price! (but
> I guess I would need to do that on the Swap List ... ).
> 
> Bruce - in Orlando
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
> those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power 
> Macs.
> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
> guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
> To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Bruce - in Orlando]

It's good to hear from LEM people who have had good experiences with
this seller.  That makes me feel better than a thousand ebay
comments.  I didn't mean to say there's anything wrong with a seller
in China, just that it's a private auction by a seller on the other
side of the Earth.  As to the price being a bit high, I'd be happy to
talk to anybody that has one of these for sale at a lower price! (but
I guess I would need to do that on the Swap List ... ).

Bruce - in Orlando

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[awilson64]

Has anyone ever tried the time-tested commercial Letter of Credit approach in a 
situation like this?

The money amount is small, but if you're suspicious . . . 

You'd get your money back (after subtraction of your banker's fee, of course) 
if the item is anything but as advertised.

He'd get his money once you've unpacked, examined, and accepted the item.

If he won't go for this approach, then he's almost certainly up to something 
unsavory.

Evan

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Baha Ata]

in my testing... it is always you may not received item. But simply you may
get your money back if you did not receive item and ask it before 45 days.
In any circumstances, you must obey the rule, if you do not receive item in
45 days... you open dispute... and get your money back. SO no problem.

I bought many items from china... Generally they are ok. But sometimes they
do not arrive.

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:45 PM, bhossfield wrote:

> I am looking at this item on ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/SONNET-ENCORE-ST-G4-DUET-1-8G-MAC-UPGRADE-CPU-PROCESSOR-/400188058422?pt=CPUs&hash=item5d2d112b36
>
> It's a private auction, seller based in China who claims to have 100%
> positive feedback.
>
> If you were actually willing to spend $266 + $20 shipping on one of these
> things, would you have reservations about this seller?  Does anybody out
> there have experience with this seller and could put my mind at ease?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bruce - in Orlando
>
> --
> You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for
> those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power
> Macs.
> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our
> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
> To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
>



-- 
Baha Ata

baha...@gmail.com
0544 585 9102

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[Alex Barnes]

He is a good seller. I bought a 1.3 dual G4 upgrade for $150 and he mailed it 
by DHL and it arrived in 3 days.

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[peterhaas]

> It's a private auction, seller based in China who claims to have 100%
> positive
> feedback.

Always a crap-shoot with a private, foreign auction.

That having been said, I have purchased computer goods and industrial
machinery goods from China-based sellers, and the worst that ever happened
was the air-mail package went West, through Europe, rather than East,
through North America, thereby adding thirty days to the transit time.



-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?

[John Carmonne]

On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:45 AM, bhossfield wrote:


I am looking at this item on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SONNET-ENCORE-ST-G4-DUET-1-8G-MAC-UPGRADE-CPU- 
PROCESSOR-/400188058422?pt=CPUs&hash=item5d2d112b36


It's a private auction, seller based in China who claims to have  
100% positive feedback.


If you were actually willing to spend $266 + $20 shipping on one of  
these things, would you have reservations about this seller?  Does  
anybody out there have experience with this seller and could put my  
mind at ease?


Thanks.

Bruce - in Orlando



This seller is solid gold in my town. Never a complaint and instant  
refund if dissatisfied. PayPal is your friend here also.
But IMHO the price is a little high? I usually make an offer and if  
it's in reason they accept.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
From my TiBook 667





--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

Would you trust this ebay seller?

[bhossfield]

I am looking at this item on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SONNET-ENCORE-ST-G4-DUET-1-8G-MAC-UPGRADE-CPU-PROCESSOR-/400188058422?pt=CPUs&hash=item5d2d112b36


It's a private auction, seller based in China who claims to have 100% positive 
feedback.

If you were actually willing to spend $266 + $20 shipping on one of these 
things, would you have reservations about this seller?  Does anybody out there 
have experience with this seller and could put my mind at ease?

Thanks.

Bruce - in Orlando

-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list