Re: iTunes redirects
At 1:51 AM -0400 8/20/2012, Dan wrote: At 8:54 PM -0500 8/19/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On all my G3 Macs running the final G3 version of iTunes 8.2.1(6) I have no radio stations now. I've the same iTunes on my Smurf, and it's showing stations - all updated to the new URLs. heh. Jinxed it. This morning, the first half dozen categories have entries but the ones below it are now empty. When I open them, they say refreshing - but then it never does. On my QS, I'm getting the same refresh stall in one category. Any change on yours? Have you tried running iTunes 9.1.1, the last released build that actually runs on G3? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
Hi to all and thanks for keeping this going as I too like Kris have an old G3 powerbook that I use as a clock/radio. 2 actually (1 running OS9 @ 300mhz, and 1 running OS10.3.9 @ 400mhz) as well as other G3's in my collection running their native software. As with Kris, none of these G3's, even the latest one running OS 10.4.11 will connect to any of the apple provided itunes radio stations. Which sadly for me is one of the main things we use these old machines for. When I click on the radio button it brings up the categories but when you click on the triangle to open the list, I get a notice that there is an error and to check my internet connection. The internet is working fine in all areas but this. Now on all of my G4's and G5 systems, the radio stations load up and play fine! Is the problem due to the older itunes software (If so is there a fix) or is this the end of this use (streaming audio radio) for these fine old machines? What we really loved was the great variety of stations that now is gone. I do not have my computers networked together to share as they are in different locations. Also perhaps Dan can let me know what a smurf is as I suspect it is not tech talk as I am familiar with most mac models. Just not sure of all the nicknames as I assume this is. Thanks again for the information! Em domingo, 19 de agosto de 2012 22h51min29s UTC-7, Dan escreveu: At 8:54 PM -0500 8/19/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On all my G3 Macs running the final G3 version of iTunes 8.2.1(6) I have no radio stations now. I've the same iTunes on my Smurf, and it's showing stations - all updated to the new URLs. Perhaps you have some sort of refresh problem? Have you tried quitting iTunes, deleting any caches it has created, and relaunching? How 'bout trashing its plist? One symptom I've noticed, while playing with this tonite... On my QS, running iTunes 9.2.1, as soon as I hit the triangle to open the subcategory, the top area of the window says refreshing then 5 to 10 seconds later, the list shows up. On my new MBP, I barely have time to read refreshing before the list shows up. On my Smurf, sometimes the list just opens as-is and sometimes it says refreshing, then there's the 5 to 10 sec lag before the updated list appears. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
On 8/20/12 09:34 AM, spilrules wrote: Hi to all and thanks for keeping this going snip= Also perhaps Dan can let me know what a smurf is as I suspect it is not tech talk as I am familiar with most mac models. Just not sure of all the nicknames as I assume this is. I'll answer for Dan === Smurf as in the kids tv show, refers to the blue and white G3 towers. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
On Aug 18, 2012, at 2:35 PM, D. Fabel wrote: Hey all! New to the group. I just learned about Apple's discontinuing their redirects in iTunes. Wow... Or should I say, Ouch! While I'm glad I can still find and add streams to play, it is tedious to locate and replace them manually. Does anyone have any recommendations for adding streams back in bulk? Thanks, Doug Portland, OR As Apple does more and more to attempt to force us to dump our PPC Mac's into the recycle bin, I am so glad that I have other alternative operating systems, at least one of which is still actively developed, to run on these machines, which are still very capable of meeting all my computing needs. It pisses me off to learn of each new service that Apple denies to PPC Mac owners, and even some things that they deny to early Intel Mac owners. It is ridiculous that they discontinue support for their computers so quickly and abandon the owners of Mac products far too soon. AmigaDave 15 17 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's MacOSX 10.5.8 MorphOS3.1, Dual 1.25GHz G4 MDD PowerMac Over-Clocked to 1.58GHz single G4 MorphOS3.1 and Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac MacOSX 10.5.8 Ubuntu PPC -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 1:17 PM -0700 8/19/2012, David W. Morris wrote: As Apple does more and more to attempt to force us to dump our PPC Mac's into the recycle bin, I am so glad that I have other alternative operating systems, at least one of which is still actively developed, to run on these machines, which are still very capable of meeting all my computing needs. It pisses me off to learn of each new service that Apple denies to PPC Mac owners, and even some things that they deny to early Intel Mac owners. It is ridiculous that they discontinue support for their computers so quickly and abandon the owners of Mac products far too soon. Perhaps you should take the time to actually read the threads about this issue. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWERPC SUPPORT. This is a change that Apple made in the streaming radio section of iTunes ON THEIR SERVERS. It affects ALL iTunes users, not just ppc users. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 2:35 PM -0700 8/18/2012, D. Fabel wrote: [html removed] I just learned about Apple's discontinuing their redirects in iTunes. Wow... Or should I say, Ouch! While I'm glad I can still find and add streams to play, it is tedious to locate and replace them manually. Does anyone have any recommendations for adding streams back in bulk? I suppose you could sort your list to gather up the streams together, for a single mass delete. But afaik, there can be no bulk correction. The URLs were indexed abbreviations that now have to be replaced on a station by station basis. It's a PITA to re-drag, but it can be done. I did a dozen+, and discovered that quite a few of my favs are simply not listed there anymore! The moral, I think, is not just not trust Apple. In the future, if you like a station, go visit their web site, bookmark it, and grab the playlist from there. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Dan wrote: Perhaps you should take the time to actually read the threads about this issue. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWERPC SUPPORT. This is a change that Apple made in the streaming radio section of iTunes ON THEIR SERVERS. It affects ALL iTunes users, not just ppc users. No, I think this is wrong. It's only on the OLD versions of iTunes, such as the last PPC G3 version 8.2.1(6) that this affects. My new Intel Macs, or for that matter, my PPC G5 that runs the latest version of iTunes 10.6.3(25) has no problems with the radio stations. What makes me mad is that if I share my entire iTunes from my G5 to my G3, I had assume it would share the radio playlist and I could either use it directly via sharing, or drag drop or export the working playlist into the older iTunes to recreate a new working radio playlist for the G3, but somehow radio isn't included when you select share my entire iTunes library option. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 7:37 PM -0500 8/19/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Dan wrote: Perhaps you should take the time to actually read the threads about this issue. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWERPC SUPPORT. This is a change that Apple made in the streaming radio section of iTunes ON THEIR SERVERS. It affects ALL iTunes users, not just ppc users. No, I think this is wrong. It's only on the OLD versions of iTunes, such as the last PPC G3 version 8.2.1(6) that this affects. My new Intel Macs, or for that matter, my PPC G5 that runs the latest version of iTunes 10.6.3(25) has no problems with the radio stations. I've got a 3 week old MacBook Pro here that has the problem. Are you looking at the stations as presented in the live Library Radio category, or stations that you've dragged to playlists? The former will show no problem - Apple simply changed the URLs. The latter, in the playlists, show the problem. Those are saved items, that are not dynamically updated. What makes me mad is that if I share my entire iTunes from my G5 to my G3, I had assume it would share the radio playlist and I could either use it directly via sharing, or drag drop or export the working playlist into the older iTunes to recreate a new working radio playlist for the G3, but somehow radio isn't included when you select share my entire iTunes library option. The Library Radio category is live in that it's fetched from Apple's servers when you click the triangles to open the subcategories. It is not shared. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
On Aug 19, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Dan wrote: I've got a 3 week old MacBook Pro here that has the problem. Are you looking at the stations as presented in the live Library Radio category, or stations that you've dragged to playlists? I'm looking at the preset stations that Apple provided in iTunes, I have zero stations that I've added to iTunes. On my PPC G5, and all Macs running iTunes v.10.6.3(25) I have no problems with any of the Apple provided stations. On all my G3 Macs running the final G3 version of iTunes 8.2.1(6) I have no radio stations now. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 8:54 PM -0500 8/19/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On all my G3 Macs running the final G3 version of iTunes 8.2.1(6) I have no radio stations now. I've the same iTunes on my Smurf, and it's showing stations - all updated to the new URLs. Perhaps you have some sort of refresh problem? Have you tried quitting iTunes, deleting any caches it has created, and relaunching? How 'bout trashing its plist? One symptom I've noticed, while playing with this tonite... On my QS, running iTunes 9.2.1, as soon as I hit the triangle to open the subcategory, the top area of the window says refreshing then 5 to 10 seconds later, the list shows up. On my new MBP, I barely have time to read refreshing before the list shows up. On my Smurf, sometimes the list just opens as-is and sometimes it says refreshing, then there's the 5 to 10 sec lag before the updated list appears. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iTunes redirects
Hey all! New to the group. I just learned about Apple's discontinuing their redirects in iTunes. Wow... Or should I say, Ouch! While I'm glad I can still find and add streams to play, it is tedious to locate and replace them manually. Does anyone have any recommendations for adding streams back in bulk? Thanks, Doug Portland, OR Right. iTunes.app is NOT broken. Apple made this change *on their servers* and discontinued the redirection/tracking service. So all the previously saved streaming items in your playlists point to the wrong URLs now. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
