Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Fabien Bodard wrote: Le 11 mars 2015 08:37, Rolf-Werner Eilert eilert-sprac...@t-online.de a ??crit : If someone introduced a new mail text protocol, this might be done with tags similar to html. This would leave the text readable in text-only mail clients or for the case something gets garbled. Newer programs could handle the tags and make it up like the message clients on smartphones do. For instance, we could use a simple %DATETIME% tag for a number of lines, and a #DATETIME# closing tag. Or would DATETIME /DATETIME be better? Maybe one could even have a quoting system like that of the popular forums, including the name of the author etc. The mail client would then figure out which block of text belongs where, and the user could choose for top or bottom quote or whatever is preferred. Should we start a project in Gambas? :) Why not ?... A library, a gui, a cgi Then we could also carry over Kevin's idea of *linking* message descriptors instead of quoting their bodies and constructing the displayed text locally which I kinda like. But you must be aware that the whole internet outside of Gambas will make fun of us if our mailing list will ultimately be run by a program written in Gambas when we already have a software repository written in Gambas :-) Regards, Tobi -- There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever! -- Mr. Monk -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
Even if Gmail is an ideal solution, I'd like a more universal solution that isn't tied to one company's whims and IP. It does sound like Google has a handle on how things should be done; perhaps they could lead the charge to revolutionize email. I agree. But at least google offers their services for free. Jussi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
Le 11 mars 2015 08:37, Rolf-Werner Eilert eilert-sprac...@t-online.de a écrit : Am 11.03.2015 06:54, schrieb richard terry: On 11/03/15 14:37, Kevin Fishburne wrote: On 03/10/2015 07:37 PM, richard terry wrote: Personally I like top-posting, some lists Im on use it. I find it easier to find out the last thing said rather than having to scroll down to the bottom of a long post. If the mail headers are up in the top pain, and the text in the bottom pain its easy to just scroll down the mail without having to constantly jump to the bottom pane to go down to the bottom. Oh, you really stepped in it now, Richard. Did someone finally port Outlook Express to Linux? I'm kidding, of course. To each their own, but threads get crazy when top and bottom posting are mixed. It starts to appear random after a while. We need an entirely new mail protocol that fixes the top/bottom-posting issue AND spam. Because why not? Ok, a bottom post. Haven’t used Windows on the desktop for nearly many many yrs, and never used outlook I guess if the list wants bottom post, Ill bottom post, after all though I read the stuff every day I don't post much, but don't want to inconvenience people. regards Richard For someone who comes later and has to find the clue to the thread, it's easier to follow with bottom posts. In all the company environments I know, however, top posts are made simply because both parties usually are informed about the topic and just want to read what the other side has written. Keeping the old posts is for documentary reasons - and sometimes laziness - only. For my own part, I prefer top posts when it has to be quick, but as I have learned mailing lists back in the time of Fidonet, I would prefer cutting everything of the old post(s) except the really relevant parts and inserting my own texts between. If someone introduced a new mail text protocol, this might be done with tags similar to html. This would leave the text readable in text-only mail clients or for the case something gets garbled. Newer programs could handle the tags and make it up like the message clients on smartphones do. For instance, we could use a simple %DATETIME% tag for a number of lines, and a #DATETIME# closing tag. Or would DATETIME /DATETIME be better? Maybe one could even have a quoting system like that of the popular forums, including the name of the author etc. The mail client would then figure out which block of text belongs where, and the user could choose for top or bottom quote or whatever is preferred. Should we start a project in Gambas? :) Why not ?... A library, a gui, a cgi Rolf -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
Am 11.03.2015 06:54, schrieb richard terry: On 11/03/15 14:37, Kevin Fishburne wrote: On 03/10/2015 07:37 PM, richard terry wrote: Personally I like top-posting, some lists Im on use it. I find it easier to find out the last thing said rather than having to scroll down to the bottom of a long post. If the mail headers are up in the top pain, and the text in the bottom pain its easy to just scroll down the mail without having to constantly jump to the bottom pane to go down to the bottom. Oh, you really stepped in it now, Richard. Did someone finally port Outlook Express to Linux? I'm kidding, of course. To each their own, but threads get crazy when top and bottom posting are mixed. It starts to appear random after a while. We need an entirely new mail protocol that fixes the top/bottom-posting issue AND spam. Because why not? Ok, a bottom post. Haven’t used Windows on the desktop for nearly many many yrs, and never used outlook I guess if the list wants bottom post, Ill bottom post, after all though I read the stuff every day I don't post much, but don't want to inconvenience people. regards Richard For someone who comes later and has to find the clue to the thread, it's easier to follow with bottom posts. In all the company environments I know, however, top posts are made simply because both parties usually are informed about the topic and just want to read what the other side has written. Keeping the old posts is for documentary reasons - and sometimes laziness - only. For my own part, I prefer top posts when it has to be quick, but as I have learned mailing lists back in the time of Fidonet, I would prefer cutting everything of the old post(s) except the really relevant parts and inserting my own texts between. If someone introduced a new mail text protocol, this might be done with tags similar to html. This would leave the text readable in text-only mail clients or for the case something gets garbled. Newer programs could handle the tags and make it up like the message clients on smartphones do. For instance, we could use a simple %DATETIME% tag for a number of lines, and a #DATETIME# closing tag. Or would DATETIME /DATETIME be better? Maybe one could even have a quoting system like that of the popular forums, including the name of the author etc. The mail client would then figure out which block of text belongs where, and the user could choose for top or bottom quote or whatever is preferred. Should we start a project in Gambas? :) Rolf -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting (was: Red no entry sign on Debug)
Yes, I do that also. Shift + Ctrl + End and then just Delete. Takes less than second, so it's not big deal. Jussi On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Fabien Bodard gambas...@gmail.com wrote: Well ... often i remove the ancian message and just take part of it quoted to answer more clearer. gmail is cool by hidding the ancian common lines, but it make huge mail message in fact . i would prefer it to not copy the old message. and give me the choice of adding part of this one. 2015-03-09 23:53 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen jussi.lahti...@gmail.com: here a signature from an ancient gambas-user from Ron_1st -- A: Delete the text you reply on. Q: What to do to get my post on top? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? I'm aware of that, but gmail arranges the mails so that never happens. You will see only the reply, and the context is visible only if you click it open. So the only difference is whether you click open the context above (bottom post) or below (top post) the mail. Jussi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Fabien Bodard -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
There should be parent/child relationships between each message. I agree, this is preserved by gmail. Quotes should be begin/end pointers referring to the message being quoted, not duplicating its text. This way the email client could display message threads however it (or the end user) liked without affecting everyone else's preferred reading or writing habits, and be able to easily detect when someone's top-posted (though top-posting and adding a sig at the very bottom could confuse things). You might be describing gmail... have you tried it? Jussi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, richard terry wrote: Personally I like top-posting, some lists Im on use it. I find it easier to find out the last thing said rather than having to scroll down to the bottom of a long post. If the mail headers are up in the top pain, and the text in the bottom pain its easy to just scroll down the mail without having to constantly jump to the bottom pane to go down to the bottom. I'm astonished how I can't relate at all. There is clearly no use trying to settle this debate. So, for those who have a scriptable MUA and like bottom-posting better, I attach a super-quick hack which tries to convert top-posting mails to bottom ones, just to suggest that everyone may fix their mail locally. In mutt, display_filter is the relevant setting (for display only). Also attached are a screenshot of a mail where it works and one where it doesn't completely. There are uncountably many variations in the way citations are introduced, and, in turn, as many spacing violations of them, so it will never relly work. (I guess at this point, it will completely mess up inline replies... It also can't correct top-posting in citations.) Regards, Tobi -- There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever! -- Mr. Monk #!/usr/bin/gbs3 Private Enum Header, Body, Signature Private $iPart As Integer Private $aHeader As New String[] Private $aBody As New String[] Private $aSig As New String[] Public Sub Main() $iPart = Header ' Process input in Application_Read() While Not Eof(File.In) Wait 0.1 Wend Top2Bottom() Print Trim$($aHeader.Join(\n)) Print Print Trim$($aBody.Join(\n)) Print Print Trim$($aSig.Join(\n)) Quit End Public Sub Application_Read() Dim sLine As String Line Input sLine Select Case $iPart Case Header If Not sLine Then $iPart = Body $aHeader.Add(sLine) Case Body If sLine = -- Or If sLine = -- Then $iPart = Signature $aSig.Add(sLine) Else $aBody.Add(sLine) Endif Case Signature $aSig.Add(sLine) End Select End Private Sub Top2Bottom() Dim aReply, aCitation As New String[] Dim iInd As Integer For iInd = 0 To $aBody.Max ' Gambas has no support for If p Or If (q And If r) Then If $aBody[iInd] Begins Then aCitation.Add($aBody[iInd]) Else If iInd $aBody.Max And If $aBody[iInd + 1] Begins Then aCitation.Add($aBody[iInd]) Else aReply.Add($aBody[iInd]) Endif Next $aBody = aCitation.Insert([\n]).Insert(aReply) End -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
On 03/10/2015 07:37 PM, richard terry wrote: Personally I like top-posting, some lists Im on use it. I find it easier to find out the last thing said rather than having to scroll down to the bottom of a long post. If the mail headers are up in the top pain, and the text in the bottom pain its easy to just scroll down the mail without having to constantly jump to the bottom pane to go down to the bottom. Oh, you really stepped in it now, Richard. Did someone finally port Outlook Express to Linux? I'm kidding, of course. To each their own, but threads get crazy when top and bottom posting are mixed. It starts to appear random after a while. We need an entirely new mail protocol that fixes the top/bottom-posting issue AND spam. Because why not? -- Kevin Fishburne Eight Virtues www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com phone: (770) 853-6271 -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
On 03/10/2015 09:30 AM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote: There should be parent/child relationships between each message. I agree, this is preserved by gmail. Quotes should be begin/end pointers referring to the message being quoted, not duplicating its text. This way the email client could display message threads however it (or the end user) liked without affecting everyone else's preferred reading or writing habits, and be able to easily detect when someone's top-posted (though top-posting and adding a sig at the very bottom could confuse things). You might be describing gmail... have you tried it? I have a Gmail account and have it set up in Thunderbird along with my other accounts which use IMAP. I run my own mail server from my house (eightvirtues.com) for those. The Gmail account is old and I try not to use it much. Even if Gmail is an ideal solution, I'd like a more universal solution that isn't tied to one company's whims and IP. It does sound like Google has a handle on how things should be done; perhaps they could lead the charge to revolutionize email. -- Kevin Fishburne Eight Virtues www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com phone: (770) 853-6271 -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
On 11/03/15 14:37, Kevin Fishburne wrote: On 03/10/2015 07:37 PM, richard terry wrote: Personally I like top-posting, some lists Im on use it. I find it easier to find out the last thing said rather than having to scroll down to the bottom of a long post. If the mail headers are up in the top pain, and the text in the bottom pain its easy to just scroll down the mail without having to constantly jump to the bottom pane to go down to the bottom. Oh, you really stepped in it now, Richard. Did someone finally port Outlook Express to Linux? I'm kidding, of course. To each their own, but threads get crazy when top and bottom posting are mixed. It starts to appear random after a while. We need an entirely new mail protocol that fixes the top/bottom-posting issue AND spam. Because why not? Ok, a bottom post. Haven’t used Windows on the desktop for nearly many many yrs, and never used outlook I guess if the list wants bottom post, Ill bottom post, after all though I read the stuff every day I don't post much, but don't want to inconvenience people. regards Richard -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting (was: Red no entry sign on Debug)
Well ... often i remove the ancian message and just take part of it quoted to answer more clearer. gmail is cool by hidding the ancian common lines, but it make huge mail message in fact . i would prefer it to not copy the old message. and give me the choice of adding part of this one. 2015-03-09 23:53 GMT+01:00 Jussi Lahtinen jussi.lahti...@gmail.com: here a signature from an ancient gambas-user from Ron_1st -- A: Delete the text you reply on. Q: What to do to get my post on top? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? I'm aware of that, but gmail arranges the mails so that never happens. You will see only the reply, and the context is visible only if you click it open. So the only difference is whether you click open the context above (bottom post) or below (top post) the mail. Jussi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Fabien Bodard -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
Personally I like top-posting, some lists Im on use it. I find it easier to find out the last thing said rather than having to scroll down to the bottom of a long post. If the mail headers are up in the top pain, and the text in the bottom pain its easy to just scroll down the mail without having to constantly jump to the bottom pane to go down to the bottom. Regards richard On 10/03/15 08:30, Fabien Bodard wrote: Well generally I'm posting from my phone or from Gmail. And these mail client are setting for top posting by default. So as generally I have few time to answer on my truck, I forgot to take care at my message position. It's with spelling fault my bad side since 13 year now on my Gambas correspondence. Le 9 mars 2015 19:57, Tobias Boege tabo...@gmail.com a écrit : On Mon, 09 Mar 2015, John Rose wrote: PS I've top posted this time as you are top posting. Tobi requested me on another query not to do bottom posting. Is top or bottom posting preferred for this mailing list? I prefer bottom posting and lots of people here do it. Are there any mailing lists -- which are a medium with focus on discussion -- in which top posting is done consciously? I don't have enough credit to tell Fabien off when he top posts :-) Also most of the time his answers are very concise and end a thread, so it doesn't hurt. Regards, Tobi -- There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever! -- Mr. Monk -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
Email's still in the frakking DARPANET ages. I tend to agree with you. However getting the entire world's electronic population to change would a daunting challenge. Perhaps if one was very dedicated, aggressive with unlimited resources it could be accomplished after a suitable period of time (maybe a decade or so). In the interim period we must learn to work with what we have at hand. cheers, Lewis P.S. If anyone decides to take on the challenge please address the following issues as well: Microsoft Outlook proprietary RTF based email format Extra line spacing in HTML formatted emails Embedded picture in any number of email systems Email Spam Email viruses Email Trojan horses My poor spelling ... it is a very long list... -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting (was: Red no entry sign on Debug)
Well generally I'm posting from my phone or from Gmail. And these mail client are setting for top posting by default. So as generally I have few time to answer on my truck, I forgot to take care at my message position. It's with spelling fault my bad side since 13 year now on my Gambas correspondence. Le 9 mars 2015 19:57, Tobias Boege tabo...@gmail.com a écrit : On Mon, 09 Mar 2015, John Rose wrote: PS I've top posted this time as you are top posting. Tobi requested me on another query not to do bottom posting. Is top or bottom posting preferred for this mailing list? I prefer bottom posting and lots of people here do it. Are there any mailing lists -- which are a medium with focus on discussion -- in which top posting is done consciously? I don't have enough credit to tell Fabien off when he top posts :-) Also most of the time his answers are very concise and end a thread, so it doesn't hurt. Regards, Tobi -- There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever! -- Mr. Monk -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting (was: Red no entry sign on Debug)
Am Montag, den 09.03.2015, 21:24 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lahtinen: This is only mailing list where I have heard this is some kind of issue. When using gmail (or any similar interface) I don't see any difference. PS. I'm currently singed in six mailing lists. Most of them working on google groups. Jussi here a signature from an ancient gambas-user from Ron_1st -- A: Delete the text you reply on. Q: What to do to get my post on top? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting (was: Red no entry sign on Debug)
This is only mailing list where I have heard this is some kind of issue. When using gmail (or any similar interface) I don't see any difference. PS. I'm currently singed in six mailing lists. Most of them working on google groups. Jussi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting (was: Red no entry sign on Debug)
On Mon, 09 Mar 2015, John Rose wrote: PS I've top posted this time as you are top posting. Tobi requested me on another query not to do bottom posting. Is top or bottom posting preferred for this mailing list? I prefer bottom posting and lots of people here do it. Are there any mailing lists -- which are a medium with focus on discussion -- in which top posting is done consciously? I don't have enough credit to tell Fabien off when he top posts :-) Also most of the time his answers are very concise and end a thread, so it doesn't hurt. Regards, Tobi -- There's an old saying: Don't change anything... ever! -- Mr. Monk -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting (was: Red no entry sign on Debug)
I prefer bottom posting and lots of people here do it. Are there any mailing lists -- which are a medium with focus on discussion -- in which top posting is done consciously? This is only mailing list where I have heard this is some kind of issue. When using gmail (or any similar interface) I don't see any difference. Jussi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting (was: Red no entry sign on Debug)
here a signature from an ancient gambas-user from Ron_1st -- A: Delete the text you reply on. Q: What to do to get my post on top? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? I'm aware of that, but gmail arranges the mails so that never happens. You will see only the reply, and the context is visible only if you click it open. So the only difference is whether you click open the context above (bottom post) or below (top post) the mail. Jussi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
Re: [Gambas-user] Top posting
On 03/09/2015 06:53 PM, Jussi Lahtinen wrote: here a signature from an ancient gambas-user from Ron_1st -- A: Delete the text you reply on. Q: What to do to get my post on top? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? I'm aware of that, but gmail arranges the mails so that never happens. You will see only the reply, and the context is visible only if you click it open. So the only difference is whether you click open the context above (bottom post) or below (top post) the mail. Email's still in the frakking DARPANET ages. Until there's a better way to do it the top posting flame wars will rage on. There should be parent/child relationships between each message. Quotes should be begin/end pointers referring to the message being quoted, not duplicating its text. This way the email client could display message threads however it (or the end user) liked without affecting everyone else's preferred reading or writing habits, and be able to easily detect when someone's top-posted (though top-posting and adding a sig at the very bottom could confuse things). -- Kevin Fishburne Eight Virtues www: http://sales.eightvirtues.com e-mail: sa...@eightvirtues.com phone: (770) 853-6271 -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gambas-user mailing list Gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gambas-user
