Re: [Audyssey] Yo

[william lomas]

how about reading the manual?

On 1 Feb 2008, at 02:16, Jozwiak, Hunter (K12) wrote:

> Hi folks, it is here. The game I have been looking for. Self Destruct.
> Check out
>
>
>
> www.blindnet.co.nr 
>
>
>
> I am dying to try it out. Could someone give me a step-by-step
> things-to-do after I get the game?
>
>
>
> Hunter, Gamefinder-not! Just Kidding!
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[josh]

hi thomas,

When I learn visual basic, probably when i go back to college, and if I make 
games and use copyrighted material: I will just use the sounds and if they 
come after me they come after me, if not, oh well.

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> Hi Bryan,
> That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my Tomb Raider game
> and Star Wars games as fan fiction, make them open source, etc it might
> be enough to cover my butt legally since I did not technically make any
> money off the games. However, that still breaks the part of the end user
> license agreement that states that all sounds, music, pictures, etc are
> for my soul use, and may not be transmitted, sublicenced, etc without
> the expressed permission of the copyright holder. If so that really
> screws me if I want to even offer a free version of the game.
> What all this really boils down to is if I really want to work with
> copyrighted materials I will have to retain an attorney to give me the
> necesary legal view with copyrights to find out exactly what I can and
> can not do. Perhaps an attorney might be able to get some permission
> from the various licensing offices for the copyright holders to do what
> I want to do legally. Generally, speaking my previous experience with
> companies is they won't listen to you as an individual, but they will
> listen to your attorney if they make the request through more legal
> channels. However, obtaining an attorney to do this is not exactly a
> cheap prospect.
>
>
>
> Bryan wrote:
>> That probably wouldn't be smart. At least if he released it as fanfiction
>> and freeware, Lucas Arts wouldn't have any leg to stand on because it was 
>> in
>> the public domain. But if he sold it...well you get the idea. It wouldn't 
>> be
>> pretty.
>> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] cthulhu nation

[william lomas]

hi we stuck as the game is based on tiles. tiles represent quests.  
again looks like we have to ask again for accessibility left behind as  
per usual

On 31 Jan 2008, at 20:01, Orin wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone played this game and had any luck with the map? I find it a
> bit confusing, and was just wondering if anyone had tried it out.
>
> The game is set in the 1920's, and this orginazation known as "The
> Group" wants you to go out and kill all types of creatures, I don't
> know how the storyline goes but I will say that it does sound complex.
>
> You can find the game at:
> http://www.cthulhunation.co.uk/
>
> Hopefully a few of you can try it out and let me know if it's
> playable. I have already tried it, and as I said found it quite
> confusing, but if I do indeed learn how to play this I'm gonna
> continue doing it, it looks huge. It's set in a horror setting.
>
> Enjoy.
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] accessible games and avg antivirus

[shaun everiss]

no, but aparently if you load an older version of avg say 7.5.428 its not 
supported to update from that version anymore.
avg crashed and corrupted itself.
Getting the new version is no piece of cake either.
I finally got it, but you need the latest engine of avg to actually have t it 
work.
At 12:33 p.m. 1/02/2008, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Do any of you have issues with AVG being corrupted because of installing 
>accessible games? My AVG doesn't like the judgement day demo.
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[shaun everiss]

some of that opensource stuff is donation ware.
At 12:33 p.m. 1/02/2008, you wrote:
>you could encourage people to donate money.
>
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>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:43 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights
>
>
>> Hi Josh,
>> Unfortunately, that kind of thinking doesn't do anyone any good. That
>> won't stop them for suing for damages if they decided to take it to that
>> extreme. Besides which if they get a court order to destroy my materials
>> and I fail to comply with that court order that could be seenas contempt
>> of court.
>> About the only way I know of to protect myself from that type of
>> situation would either clone the software without using trade marks or
>> design all of my copyrighted games under a open source license
>> agreement. If I go with an open source license agreement that puts all
>> of my hard work in the public domain with no financial backing for the
>> product. Yeah, you guys get a free game, but what money or financial
>> gain do I get out of it?
>>
>>
>> josh wrote:
>>> Hi thomas,
>>>
>>> if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy
>>> it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been
>>> sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern
>>> countries.
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks

[josh]

yeah but you don't know the accepted values and parameters and things.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:23 PM
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> you know it's really to bad. The instructions on how to make cars and 
> tracks
> are not on the site. The best thing you can do is look at one and use it 
> to
> help you make your own.
>
> Later,
>
> Cory
>
> PS, does anyone know if they're going to make a new version of ts?
> - 
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> Original
>
> Message - 
>
>
> From:
>
> "djc"
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>
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> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks
>
>
>> On my ftp I have 2 track makers. One is a random track maker and the 
>> other
>> one is the standard track maker. To get to my ftp do the following:
>>
>> ftp site: djc.my-net-space.net
>> username: PlayingInTheDark Note each word is capitalized.
>> password: racing
>> port: 21
>> No passive mode.
>>
>> The track makers are in the odds and ends area.
>>
>>
>> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>>
>> On 1/29/2008 at 3:25 PM Valiant \(on laptop\) wrote:
>>
>>>Hi.
>>>It's possible to create your own race tracks for topspeed. Look around on
>>>the topspeed's website and see if you can figure out how from there, if
>> not,
>>>I'll write it up but I'd like to not have to grins.
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>>>From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "gamers discussion list" 
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:08 PM
>>>Subject: [Audyssey] top speed tracks
>>>
>>>
 Hi,

 Is it possible to create your own race tracks for the top speed game? 
 If
>>
 so,
 how is this done or how do you do it?

 Josh



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[Audyssey] Yo

[Jozwiak, Hunter (K12)]

Hi folks, it is here. The game I have been looking for. Self Destruct.
Check out

 

www.blindnet.co.nr  

 

I am dying to try it out. Could someone give me a step-by-step
things-to-do after I get the game?

 

Hunter, Gamefinder-not! Just Kidding!

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Re: [Audyssey] Giftanum

[Jozwiak, Hunter (K12)]

Now my second question is, what is Giftanum. I have just heard about it.

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well there was a version released, by shaned games.
But due to selfdestruct or something like that using some code from bpc
or something or something it went down, maybe that was xlstudios.
I forget but yeah shaned games went away in the same year it came up.
There was supposed to be  a load of extra things to it.

Its weird how some stuff starts good then dies.
Things like the genisus project was shelved by esp because of size
alone.
I wouldn't mind a compiled version of the last build even if its real
crappy just to see what it would have been like.
A shame that that never happened.
then there was final defender by adora, starbase defender and flight
commander.
For various reasons these games were not completed.
All these were real good.
Then there was the orio games things where the makers of a game decided
for whatever reason not to release it and after that not to have a
company either.
Then there was the alchemy preorder thing and the list goes on, well it
doesn't but it could.
Before that esp almost closed, and then was able to reopen, and the
company that was there before adora was went closed for a bit.
I think the only origional players we have now that never quit or had
major issues are
pcs, and gma.
True there is draconis, usa, and vipgameszone as well as soundsupport
and the audiogames sites but those came later.
And before pcs there was ifarchive.
And before that, well before that I didn't have the net, I think in 1993
1994 I was with a few games on floppies.
and before that I had no computer at all.
I think we should have a history article about audyssey in the mag, the
communities, the small wars and such.
The community reminds me of a email mud if one can exist.
Another game that was part of the mag.
We had our arguments and wars, etc.
At 07:27 a.m. 1/02/2008, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Yeah, Shane did get the source for the game, but I am not sure what if 
>anything he did with it after that. He is on list so perhaps he will 
>fill us in about the game. If not I suppose once my other obligations 
>are taken care of next Christmas I can write up a clone of it, or the 
>Christmas of 2020 the way I am going. 
>
>Jozwiak, Hunter (K12) wrote:
>> Where is Giftanum. I heard Shane Davidson had it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hunter
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Re: [Audyssey] Giftanum

[shaun everiss]

well there was a version released, by shaned games.
But due to selfdestruct or something like that using some code from bpc or 
something or something it went down, maybe that was xlstudios.
I forget but yeah shaned games went away in the same year it came up.
There was supposed to be  a load of extra things to it.

Its weird how some stuff starts good then dies.
Things like the genisus project was shelved by esp because of size alone.
I wouldn't mind a compiled version of the last build even if its real crappy 
just to see what it would have been like.
A shame that that never happened.
then there was final defender by adora, starbase defender and flight commander.
For various reasons these games were not completed.
All these were real good.
Then there was the orio games things where the makers of a game decided for 
whatever reason not to release it and after that not to have a company either.
Then there was the alchemy preorder thing and the list goes on, well it doesn't 
but it could.
Before that esp almost closed, and then was able to reopen, and the company 
that was there before adora was went closed for a bit.
I think the only origional players we have now that never quit or had major 
issues are
pcs, and gma.
True there is draconis, usa, and vipgameszone as well as soundsupport and the 
audiogames sites but those came later.
And before pcs there was ifarchive.
And before that, well before that I didn't have the net, I think in 1993 1994 I 
was with a few games on floppies.
and before that I had no computer at all.
I think we should have a history article about audyssey in the mag, the 
communities, the small wars and such.
The community reminds me of a email mud if one can exist.
Another game that was part of the mag.
We had our arguments and wars, etc.
At 07:27 a.m. 1/02/2008, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Yeah, Shane did get the source for the game, but I am not sure what if 
>anything he did with it after that. He is on list so perhaps he will 
>fill us in about the game. If not I suppose once my other obligations 
>are taken care of next Christmas I can write up a clone of it, or the 
>Christmas of 2020 the way I am going. 
>
>Jozwiak, Hunter (K12) wrote:
>> Where is Giftanum. I heard Shane Davidson had it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hunter
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[Audyssey] accessible games and avg antivirus

[josh]

Hi,

Do any of you have issues with AVG being corrupted because of installing 
accessible games? My AVG doesn't like the judgement day demo.



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Re: [Audyssey] dog guide's rights - Re: copyrights

[Darren Harris]

Ov er here in the UK nobody can stop you from having a guidedog. And if
they refuse you because you have a guidedog then they're in more trouble
than you.

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Subject: [Audyssey] dog guide's rights - Re: copyrights


Show them the laws regarding service animals.  Maybe the school where
you 
trained with the dog would help by backing you up with the authority
that 
the housing authorities don't think you have.  Also, let them know that
you 
will, willingly, get the police and any other authorities necessary 
involved.

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


> It's funny, but I'm having to do something similar in my life. You'll 
> forgive me for straying from the topic of games briefly I hope, but 
> I'm having some difficulty with the housing authority letting me get a

> guide dog. Right now they seem to think they can count the service 
> animal as a pet, so they're telling me that if I were to get a guide 
> dog and later want a pet I'd have to get rid of my guide dog. But it 
> goes back to what you said
> about companies not listening to you as an individual, but if you have

> some
> sort of atourney or other legal personality you at least stand a
chance.
> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights
>
>
>> Hi Bryan,
>> That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my Tomb Raider 
>> game and Star Wars games as fan fiction, make them open source, etc 
>> it might be enough to cover my butt legally since I did not 
>> technically make any money off the games. However, that still breaks 
>> the part of the end user license agreement that states that all 
>> sounds, music, pictures, etc are for my soul use, and may not be 
>> transmitted, sublicenced, etc without the expressed permission of the

>> copyright holder. If so that really screws me if I want to even offer

>> a free version of the game. What all this really boils down to is if 
>> I really want to work with copyrighted materials I will have to 
>> retain an attorney to give me the necesary legal view with copyrights

>> to find out exactly what I can and can not do. Perhaps an attorney 
>> might be able to get some permission from the various licensing 
>> offices for the copyright holders to do what I want to do legally. 
>> Generally, speaking my previous experience with companies is they 
>> won't listen to you as an individual, but they will listen to your 
>> attorney if they make the request through more legal channels. 
>> However, obtaining an attorney to do this is not exactly a cheap 
>> prospect.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[josh]

you could encourage people to donate money.

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


> Hi Josh,
> Unfortunately, that kind of thinking doesn't do anyone any good. That
> won't stop them for suing for damages if they decided to take it to that
> extreme. Besides which if they get a court order to destroy my materials
> and I fail to comply with that court order that could be seenas contempt
> of court.
> About the only way I know of to protect myself from that type of
> situation would either clone the software without using trade marks or
> design all of my copyrighted games under a open source license
> agreement. If I go with an open source license agreement that puts all
> of my hard work in the public domain with no financial backing for the
> product. Yeah, you guys get a free game, but what money or financial
> gain do I get out of it?
>
>
> josh wrote:
>> Hi thomas,
>>
>> if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy
>> it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been
>> sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern
>> countries.
>>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] New Java MUD Client Now Available, Including JMC JAWS Script Update

[Greg]

Hello,
Will the current JAWS scripts work with the new JMC.
Thanks Greg

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Behalf Of Bryan Garaventa
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:28 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] New Java MUD Client Now Available,Including JMC JAWS
Script Update

Hi, in case anyone is interested, there is a new release of JMC (The Java 
MUD Client) available
(V3.5.0.2), that has some pretty interesting new features...

In case you haven't heard of JMC before... The Java MUD Client can be used 
with any MUD listed at MudConnect.com, and was long thought to be out of 
development for many years. However, continued development was picked up by 
a group of Russian developers within the last five years or so, and many bug

fixes and feature enhancements have been added since then. JMC is now truly 
a feature rich MUD client for advanced MUD gamers. Including such features 
as logging in HTML, sound playback support, Winamp controls, updated and 
accessible help documentation, plus a new inovative combat protocol that can

be added for more realistic combat feedback (see the help for more info 
regarding this).

Here is an excerpt from the download page at http://gutterstar.net/jmc.php

So... This is the latest release! New features include:
* The #Play command, which allows you to play any wave sound file, and
include any number of such commands within aliases, actions, or scripted
events!
* The #Winamp command, which allows you to completely control Winamp
directly from within JMC! Feel free to be truly weird, and add such commands
to aliases,
actions or scripted events? While you play, you can rock out to such old
time favorites as: "I'm Stuck On You Babe Like Bubble Gum In Your Hair",
and,
"My Favorite Bath-Time Gurgles"! No idea what use this feature is to a JAWS
user really, but at the very least, you can say you could...
* Full scripting support! Now you can create interactive programs using the
JMC object directly, and programmatically communicate with JMC using such
programming
languages as VBScript, JScript, XML, JavaScript, etc. Essentially, any
programming language that can reference JMC as an object!
* Numerous bug fixes and feature enhancements!

Also, the JMC Scripts for JAWS have been updated to V4.0 to support the new
version. The download page for this is at
http://gutterstar.net/jmc_scripts.php

Direct downloads...
JMC V3.5 Installer:
http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/gateway.php?redirect=../scr/JMC3.5Setup.exe
JMC Scripts for JAWS V4.0 Installer:
http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/gateway.php?redirect=../scr/JMCJ5xScripts.exe

Enjoy,

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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year

[Dark]

I agree on both counts there tom.

Speaking of the master list then, I would personally say all releases of new 
gameplay should be considdered as viable entrance.

that is, all new games, all public betas and any updates to an old game 
which improves the gameplay,  such as Jim's golf and baseball.

I would not however count the vista compatible versions of the Draconis and 
Vip gameszone games as eligeable, sinse,  while such updates are very 
handy and neccessary, they haven't brought any new game playing experiences 
in 2007 which were not there in 2006. ditto with bug fix versions (though I 
think all the games which have recieved bug fixes in 2007 also got new 
gameplay additions so this probably doesn't count as much).

What do people think?

Beware the Grue!

Dark.




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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:20 PM
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> Hi Che,
> First, before we actually decide upon catagories what we should do is
> compile a master list of games produced in the last year. The games
> themselves should be able to give us an idea  of what catagories are
> possible for this year. possabilities.
> As for commercial verses fre I am not totally sure that a free game
> would beat a commercial game. It is true there could be more players for
> that free game, but based on the results of JJ's 2007 awards Rail Racer,
> a commercial game, won anyway. Other nominations were the  Homer game
> and Bopit which are free. Admittedly though that could be they were
> simply out classed, but that only could prove my point a commercial game
> could beat a free game in voting.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] New Java MUD Client Now Available, Including JMC JAWS Script Update

[Liam Erven]

I gave jmc a good look when trying to port my miriani scripts to another 
program, however it gave me so many problems.  but.. I'm considering going 
back and looking at it again since there's a new version.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Garaventa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:27 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] New Java MUD Client Now Available,Including JMC JAWS 
Script Update


> Hi, in case anyone is interested, there is a new release of JMC (The Java
> MUD Client) available
> (V3.5.0.2), that has some pretty interesting new features...
>
> In case you haven't heard of JMC before... The Java MUD Client can be used
> with any MUD listed at MudConnect.com, and was long thought to be out of
> development for many years. However, continued development was picked up 
> by
> a group of Russian developers within the last five years or so, and many 
> bug
> fixes and feature enhancements have been added since then. JMC is now 
> truly
> a feature rich MUD client for advanced MUD gamers. Including such features
> as logging in HTML, sound playback support, Winamp controls, updated and
> accessible help documentation, plus a new inovative combat protocol that 
> can
> be added for more realistic combat feedback (see the help for more info
> regarding this).
>
> Here is an excerpt from the download page at http://gutterstar.net/jmc.php
>
> So... This is the latest release! New features include:
> * The #Play command, which allows you to play any wave sound file, and
> include any number of such commands within aliases, actions, or scripted
> events!
> * The #Winamp command, which allows you to completely control Winamp
> directly from within JMC! Feel free to be truly weird, and add such 
> commands
> to aliases,
> actions or scripted events? While you play, you can rock out to such old
> time favorites as: "I'm Stuck On You Babe Like Bubble Gum In Your Hair",
> and,
> "My Favorite Bath-Time Gurgles"! No idea what use this feature is to a 
> JAWS
> user really, but at the very least, you can say you could...
> * Full scripting support! Now you can create interactive programs using 
> the
> JMC object directly, and programmatically communicate with JMC using such
> programming
> languages as VBScript, JScript, XML, JavaScript, etc. Essentially, any
> programming language that can reference JMC as an object!
> * Numerous bug fixes and feature enhancements!
>
> Also, the JMC Scripts for JAWS have been updated to V4.0 to support the 
> new
> version. The download page for this is at
> http://gutterstar.net/jmc_scripts.php
>
> Direct downloads...
> JMC V3.5 Installer:
> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/gateway.php?redirect=../scr/JMC3.5Setup.exe
> JMC Scripts for JAWS V4.0 Installer:
> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/gateway.php?redirect=../scr/JMCJ5xScripts.exe
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Bryan Garaventa
>
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Re: [Audyssey] New Java MUD Client Now Available, Including JMC JAWS Script Update

[Stefen Hudson]

Wow, that's pretty cool. Will have to try that out.

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:27 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] New Java MUD Client Now Available,Including JMC JAWS 
Script Update

> Hi, in case anyone is interested, there is a new release of JMC (The Java
> MUD Client) available
> (V3.5.0.2), that has some pretty interesting new features...
>
> In case you haven't heard of JMC before... The Java MUD Client can be used
> with any MUD listed at MudConnect.com, and was long thought to be out of
> development for many years. However, continued development was picked up 
> by
> a group of Russian developers within the last five years or so, and many 
> bug
> fixes and feature enhancements have been added since then. JMC is now 
> truly
> a feature rich MUD client for advanced MUD gamers. Including such features
> as logging in HTML, sound playback support, Winamp controls, updated and
> accessible help documentation, plus a new inovative combat protocol that 
> can
> be added for more realistic combat feedback (see the help for more info
> regarding this).
>
> Here is an excerpt from the download page at http://gutterstar.net/jmc.php
>
> So... This is the latest release! New features include:
> * The #Play command, which allows you to play any wave sound file, and
> include any number of such commands within aliases, actions, or scripted
> events!
> * The #Winamp command, which allows you to completely control Winamp
> directly from within JMC! Feel free to be truly weird, and add such 
> commands
> to aliases,
> actions or scripted events? While you play, you can rock out to such old
> time favorites as: "I'm Stuck On You Babe Like Bubble Gum In Your Hair",
> and,
> "My Favorite Bath-Time Gurgles"! No idea what use this feature is to a 
> JAWS
> user really, but at the very least, you can say you could...
> * Full scripting support! Now you can create interactive programs using 
> the
> JMC object directly, and programmatically communicate with JMC using such
> programming
> languages as VBScript, JScript, XML, JavaScript, etc. Essentially, any
> programming language that can reference JMC as an object!
> * Numerous bug fixes and feature enhancements!
>
> Also, the JMC Scripts for JAWS have been updated to V4.0 to support the 
> new
> version. The download page for this is at
> http://gutterstar.net/jmc_scripts.php
>
> Direct downloads...
> JMC V3.5 Installer:
> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/gateway.php?redirect=../scr/JMC3.5Setup.exe
> JMC Scripts for JAWS V4.0 Installer:
> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/gateway.php?redirect=../scr/JMCJ5xScripts.exe
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Bryan Garaventa
>
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[Audyssey] New Java MUD Client Now Available, Including JMC JAWS Script Update

[Bryan Garaventa]

Hi, in case anyone is interested, there is a new release of JMC (The Java 
MUD Client) available
(V3.5.0.2), that has some pretty interesting new features...

In case you haven't heard of JMC before... The Java MUD Client can be used 
with any MUD listed at MudConnect.com, and was long thought to be out of 
development for many years. However, continued development was picked up by 
a group of Russian developers within the last five years or so, and many bug 
fixes and feature enhancements have been added since then. JMC is now truly 
a feature rich MUD client for advanced MUD gamers. Including such features 
as logging in HTML, sound playback support, Winamp controls, updated and 
accessible help documentation, plus a new inovative combat protocol that can 
be added for more realistic combat feedback (see the help for more info 
regarding this).

Here is an excerpt from the download page at http://gutterstar.net/jmc.php

So... This is the latest release! New features include:
* The #Play command, which allows you to play any wave sound file, and
include any number of such commands within aliases, actions, or scripted
events!
* The #Winamp command, which allows you to completely control Winamp
directly from within JMC! Feel free to be truly weird, and add such commands
to aliases,
actions or scripted events? While you play, you can rock out to such old
time favorites as: "I'm Stuck On You Babe Like Bubble Gum In Your Hair",
and,
"My Favorite Bath-Time Gurgles"! No idea what use this feature is to a JAWS
user really, but at the very least, you can say you could...
* Full scripting support! Now you can create interactive programs using the
JMC object directly, and programmatically communicate with JMC using such
programming
languages as VBScript, JScript, XML, JavaScript, etc. Essentially, any
programming language that can reference JMC as an object!
* Numerous bug fixes and feature enhancements!

Also, the JMC Scripts for JAWS have been updated to V4.0 to support the new
version. The download page for this is at
http://gutterstar.net/jmc_scripts.php

Direct downloads...
JMC V3.5 Installer:
http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/gateway.php?redirect=../scr/JMC3.5Setup.exe
JMC Scripts for JAWS V4.0 Installer:
http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/gateway.php?redirect=../scr/JMCJ5xScripts.exe

Enjoy,

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[Audyssey] Blind Accessible Game releases, 2007

[Ron Schamerhorn]

Here's the list which Phil compiled,  I can't recall if there were additions 
to it or not.

Ron

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From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:09 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Blind Accessible Game releases, 2007


Hi Folks,
Here is a preliminary list of Blind Accessible Game releases, 2007.
Note, this list includes Alpha and Beta releases.
I include them as I am not sure what games are final relaeses or what are
beta releases.
Pleas let me know what games are missing, and if possible the date of
release.
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December 16, 2007,
lighttech Interactive's Bop It Ultimate, version 1.1,
December 11, 2007,
USA game's Montezuma's Return, public beta 8.
December 9, 2007,
lighttech Interactive's Bop It Ultimate, version 1.0,
December 4, 2007,
USA game's Montezuma's Return, public beta 7.
November 26, 2007,
Jim Kitchen's Homer on a Harley.
November 22, 2007,
Ian Humphreys' Blind-gamers Uno 1.1.
November 21, 2007,
x-sight-interactive's chopper challenge.
November 16, 2007,
USA game's Montezuma's Revenge, Public Beta 6.
November 10, 2007,
Ken Downey's wrecking ball Beta 1.
November 1, 2007,
USA game's Montezuma's Revenge, Public Beta 5.
October 31, 2007,
RS Games, Shoot Da Me.
Ken Downey's wrecking ball alpha 4,
October 17, 207,
USA game's Montezuma's Revenge, Public Beta 4.
Dragon Slayer Games Super Mario Brothers: The Audio Rendition, public beta
2.
October 10, 2007,
USA game's Montezuma's Revenge, Public Beta 3.
September 9, 2007,
Spoonbill's Uno.
Jim Kitchen's Baseball game version 4
September 5, 2007,
7-128 Software, free demo game book.
GAMBIT Game Lab, Audi Odyssey.
August 29, 2007,
Ken Downey's Demolition Derby and Air Hockey games.
August 2, 2007,
Audio Game Maker Beta Release.
July 7, 2007,
USA Games Montezuma's Revenge, Public Beta,
July 4, 2007,
Multi player game SoundRTS,
June 28, 2007,
Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer version 1.1.
June 13, 2007
Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer demo.
May 7, 2007,
Three mouse driven games
April 30, 2007,
UA Games,Terrestrial Invaders,
April 19, 2007,
Audio-Games PlayCenter has 12 new student created games.
April 13, 2007,
Ian Humphreys' Blind-gamers Word Target 1.0.
April 4, 2007,
Axe Software's Quest,
April 3, 2007,
Audio-Games PlayCenter Underwater game.
March 15, 2007,
PCs Games Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry.
February 21, 2007,
Anatol Kamynin's Technoshock.
February, 18, 2007,
7-128 Software games
February 2, 2007,
AderSoftware's 1000 A.D.
Jim Kitchen's Snakes and Ladders game version 2
January 4, 2007,
Thomas Gaudy's Mosquito Eater.
Spoonbill Software's Blind gamers Yahtzee
Jim Kitchen's SAPI Simon.



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[Audyssey] cthulhu nation

[Orin]

Hi all,

Has anyone played this game and had any luck with the map? I find it a  
bit confusing, and was just wondering if anyone had tried it out.

The game is set in the 1920's, and this orginazation known as "The  
Group" wants you to go out and kill all types of creatures, I don't  
know how the storyline goes but I will say that it does sound complex.

You can find the game at:
http://www.cthulhunation.co.uk/

Hopefully a few of you can try it out and let me know if it's  
playable. I have already tried it, and as I said found it quite  
confusing, but if I do indeed learn how to play this I'm gonna  
continue doing it, it looks huge. It's set in a horror setting.

Enjoy.



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Re: [Audyssey] mud at toastsoft.net

[Stefen Hudson]

Yeah, I agree. Word wrap would be nice. There's an in-game solution for it 
but it slows down the text a tiny bit.

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> Hello there.
>
> I play Ryzali Sanlinde when I actually log on.
>
> Sigh, I like the soundpack with monkeyTerm but I hate the fact that there 
> is
> no word wrap.  yes, I'm sure that I am being extremely petty and 
> difficult,
> but for me, if I have to read back through text for something and there is
> no word wrapping abilities, it irks me to no end.
>
> Right now, I am using MushClient, and I would really like to find out 
> about
> a soundpack for said client.  I know that there is one, however, does it 
> gag
> all of the lines that the monkey term one does?  You know, it's like 
> having
> half a dozen in one hand and six in the other.
>
> I also heard that it is a little more difficult (not that I let a little
> trouble stop me), to install in vista, and I'd like some clarification on
> that.
>
> I enjoy Miriani, but for me, that in character channel isn't nearly
> in-character enough for my liking.  I have enjoyed meeting those of you 
> that
> I have.  You know who you are!
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Re: [Audyssey] mud at toastsoft.net

[jaliya skye]

Hello there.

I play Ryzali Sanlinde when I actually log on.

Sigh, I like the soundpack with monkeyTerm but I hate the fact that there is 
no word wrap.  yes, I'm sure that I am being extremely petty and difficult, 
but for me, if I have to read back through text for something and there is 
no word wrapping abilities, it irks me to no end.

Right now, I am using MushClient, and I would really like to find out about 
a soundpack for said client.  I know that there is one, however, does it gag 
all of the lines that the monkey term one does?  You know, it's like having 
half a dozen in one hand and six in the other.

I also heard that it is a little more difficult (not that I let a little 
trouble stop me), to install in vista, and I'd like some clarification on 
that.

I enjoy Miriani, but for me, that in character channel isn't nearly 
in-character enough for my liking.  I have enjoyed meeting those of you that 
I have.  You know who you are!

Jaliya 


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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories

[Che]

  I thought Phill posted just such a list here a week ago or so, which is 
where I developed my list of categories from.
  Feel free to post a category list you feel would work, but I think what I 
posted is a good starting point, just needs to be fleshed out a bit.
  I stand by my argument that having free games up against commercial games 
is an unfair competition, regardless of how RR did in a limited vote.
  If you gave 2000 decent but not great computers to 2000 people, and had 
them vote with 200 that had superior computers asking them which was best, 
it is obvious which would win by sheer number of users of the free system. 
This is not to say free games are inferior to commercial games at all, but I 
think you get my point.
  Phil, if you are out there, do you have a revised list of games for 2007 
that is all inclusive?
  Later,
  Che

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> Hi Che,
> First, before we actually decide upon catagories what we should do is
> compile a master list of games produced in the last year. The games
> themselves should be able to give us an idea  of what catagories are
> possible for this year. possabilities.
> As for commercial verses fre I am not totally sure that a free game
> would beat a commercial game. It is true there could be more players for
> that free game, but based on the results of JJ's 2007 awards Rail Racer,
> a commercial game, won anyway. Other nominations were the  Homer game
> and Bopit which are free. Admittedly though that could be they were
> simply out classed, but that only could prove my point a commercial game
> could beat a free game in voting.
>
> Che wrote:
>>   Right, but the problem with voting on commercial versus free games is 
>> the
>> user base is ten times that for a free game as it is for a commercial 
>> game,
>> and it would not be a fair competition since so many people would be 
>> voting
>> for the free games, not having played the commercial ones, so for me, 
>> this
>> seems like a must have difference in categories.
>>   Regarding the sports category, I think these could be lumped into 
>> action.
>> Like wise, a card game could go into strategy, we just have to broaden 
>> the
>> definition of the categories a bit to keep the number down it seems to 
>> me.
>>   Also, like Thomas and Raul I have lots of stuff going on outside of 
>> this
>> voting deal, so I would rather keep the categories to a manageable 
>> number,
>> less than ten total categories would be ideal.
>>   Later,
>>   Che
>>
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[Audyssey] copyright solution

[Che]

  Well, it seems to me there is an easy solution to this problem.
  Make your game with generic sounds for everything, don't give it a title 
that is a licensed name, then upon game release a zip file mysteriously 
appears on the net that has all the sounds from the Star Wars universe or 
whatever that neatly plugs into the game and replaces all sounds.
  The zip replacement would have no trackable source, and certainly would 
not have anything to do with the company that released this generic game, it 
just happened that a fan released a sound pack for it as far as they know 
and nothing they can do about it in any realistic way.
This would cut into sales a bit, as you would not have a household name 
to market the game with, but word would get out quickly enough amongst the 
game community about what the deal was, and the sound pack would soon be 
shared amongst players.
  If you use this idea, you can send a cut of the profits to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], grin.
  Later,
  Che

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> Hi Josh,
> Unfortunately, that kind of thinking doesn't do anyone any good. That
> won't stop them for suing for damages if they decided to take it to that
> extreme. Besides which if they get a court order to destroy my materials
> and I fail to comply with that court order that could be seenas contempt
> of court.
> About the only way I know of to protect myself from that type of
> situation would either clone the software without using trade marks or
> design all of my copyrighted games under a open source license
> agreement. If I go with an open source license agreement that puts all
> of my hard work in the public domain with no financial backing for the
> product. Yeah, you guys get a free game, but what money or financial
> gain do I get out of it?
>
>
> josh wrote:
>> Hi thomas,
>>
>> if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy
>> it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been
>> sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern
>> countries.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] dog guide's rights - Re: copyrights

[ari]

You can also take this to our new group for further discussion, sorry for 
the plug, but we've really nothing so far, totally rubbish.
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Re: [Audyssey] hunting for the audyssey zip file.

[Ron Schamerhorn]

Hi all

  About the Audyssey zip file, I'll finish putting it together and then can 
send it off to whoever wants it or to someone who would host it.  I've got 
all the mags and will get it done in the next couple days.

Ron
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[Audyssey] dog guide's rights - Re: copyrights

[Charles Rivard]

Show them the laws regarding service animals.  Maybe the school where you 
trained with the dog would help by backing you up with the authority that 
the housing authorities don't think you have.  Also, let them know that you 
will, willingly, get the police and any other authorities necessary 
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> It's funny, but I'm having to do something similar in my life. You'll
> forgive me for straying from the topic of games briefly I hope, but I'm
> having some difficulty with the housing authority letting me get a guide
> dog. Right now they seem to think they can count the service animal as a
> pet, so they're telling me that if I were to get a guide dog and later 
> want
> a pet I'd have to get rid of my guide dog. But it goes back to what you 
> said
> about companies not listening to you as an individual, but if you have 
> some
> sort of atourney or other legal personality you at least stand a chance.
> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights
>
>
>> Hi Bryan,
>> That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my Tomb Raider game
>> and Star Wars games as fan fiction, make them open source, etc it might
>> be enough to cover my butt legally since I did not technically make any
>> money off the games. However, that still breaks the part of the end user
>> license agreement that states that all sounds, music, pictures, etc are
>> for my soul use, and may not be transmitted, sublicenced, etc without
>> the expressed permission of the copyright holder. If so that really
>> screws me if I want to even offer a free version of the game.
>> What all this really boils down to is if I really want to work with
>> copyrighted materials I will have to retain an attorney to give me the
>> necesary legal view with copyrights to find out exactly what I can and
>> can not do. Perhaps an attorney might be able to get some permission
>> from the various licensing offices for the copyright holders to do what
>> I want to do legally. Generally, speaking my previous experience with
>> companies is they won't listen to you as an individual, but they will
>> listen to your attorney if they make the request through more legal
>> channels. However, obtaining an attorney to do this is not exactly a
>> cheap prospect.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] hand held fishing games

[Mich]

no i haven't from Mich.
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> The question remains, though, have you had any luck with such games?
> Thanks.
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> From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
>> hi I just did a google serch for Lunker Bass Fishing game and came up
>> withthe game. so it is still around and still avaible. as for any of the
>> other hand held fishing games i have not played any but i just thought
>> that
>> iw ould let you know what i found out. from Mich Verrier from New 
>> Liskeard
>> Ontario Canada.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "audyssey gamers group" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:40 PM
>> Subject: [Audyssey] hand held fishing games
>>
>>
>>> Has anyone had success with any of the handheld games of fishing that 
>>> are
>>> sort of like a vibrating fishing rod?  I have one called "Lunker Deep
>>> Sea"
>>> that I haven't been able to use as of yet.  I was able to catch fish 
>>> with
>>> one several years back that was called "lunker bass", but this one must
>>> be
>>> more visual than that one was, and it doesn't have as good of a feel to
>>> it
>>> when a fish nibbles.
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] The next issue

[Davy Kager]

Hi,

In that case, it'll be fully packed with racing news, I promise! Oh, and 
congrats in advance.
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Hi Davy

  The next issue will be published before the end of Feburary, around the 24
or 25.  That way it's out before my birthday.  :D

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Re: [Audyssey] hand held fishing games

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The question remains, though, have you had any luck with such games? 
Thanks.

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> hi I just did a google serch for Lunker Bass Fishing game and came up
> withthe game. so it is still around and still avaible. as for any of the
> other hand held fishing games i have not played any but i just thought 
> that
> iw ould let you know what i found out. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard
> Ontario Canada.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "audyssey gamers group" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:40 PM
> Subject: [Audyssey] hand held fishing games
>
>
>> Has anyone had success with any of the handheld games of fishing that are
>> sort of like a vibrating fishing rod?  I have one called "Lunker Deep 
>> Sea"
>> that I haven't been able to use as of yet.  I was able to catch fish with
>> one several years back that was called "lunker bass", but this one must 
>> be
>> more visual than that one was, and it doesn't have as good of a feel to 
>> it
>> when a fish nibbles.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Giftanum

[Thomas Ward]

Hi,
Yeah, Shane did get the source for the game, but I am not sure what if 
anything he did with it after that. He is on list so perhaps he will 
fill us in about the game. If not I suppose once my other obligations 
are taken care of next Christmas I can write up a clone of it, or the 
Christmas of 2020 the way I am going. 

Jozwiak, Hunter (K12) wrote:
> Where is Giftanum. I heard Shane Davidson had it.
>
>  
>
> Hunter
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Re: [Audyssey] plans about top speed 3

[jorge]

Hi Davy and Leonard. Thank you for the information.
I will certainly wait and have a look on next issue.
Greetings,
Jorge
- Original Message - 
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> Yes, there is some development going on, and it's gonna be really neat
> stuff! I'm not sure if I'm allowed to talk about it though, so I'll keep 
> my
> mouth shut for now...
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion
> list" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans about top speed 3
>
>
> Hi. Some time ago I read on audiogames forum that developers of top speed
> are planning realize Top Speed 3.
> Do you know if they are still planiing it?
> Thanks,
> Jorge
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music
>
>
>> Josh,
>>
>> No, there isn't, but you're free to program a carmaker. Otherwise i
>> will advise you to change an existing carfile.
>> -
>> Regards,
>> Leonard de Ruijter
>> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>> On donderdag 31 januari 2008, at 15:41:06, wrote josh:
>>
>>> too bad there isn't a program that helps you do this.
>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Davy Kager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:18 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music
>>
>>
 Hi,

 You can change both the language and the music just by changing the
 .ogg-files in the Sounds\En-folder. Alternatively, you can create a new
 folder, such as Fr, and put your French language files in there. Then 
 in
 racing.cfg you can change your language settings. It's indeed a little
 weird
 that the game crashes if you don't use the exactly right bitrates and
 such...
 - Original Message - 
 From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "gamers discussion list" 
 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:01 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music


 Hi,

 How do you create a language pack for topspeed2? And, can you change 
 the
 music that is played in the menus?



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Re: [Audyssey] mud at toastsoft.net

[Stefen Hudson]

Awesome. Rothque Torraske, Commonwealth.

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> Hi. I love Miriani. I'm John Locklier: Hale.
>
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> Certainly is now I've got the monkeytern problem sorted things are going
> well.  Am enjoying couriering metals to different parts delivering mail 
> and
> salvaging debris.  See you out in space.
>
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> Aha, so that's you. I'm Rothque Torraske, also in the Commonwealth. I'm 
> also
>
> out of local space looking for artifacts! Yay!
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>>
>> A friend put me on to the mud hosted by toastsoft.net
>>
>> Brilliant.  I'm a member of the commonwealth aliense my pilot name is ray
>> steel hope to see you there.
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Josh,
Not legally. All an LLC means is that USA Games, not me personally, 
would get sued for damages and they could get a court order to close USA 
Games down or charge royalties from USA Games which would kill the 
company in any case.
You have to understand here I started USA Games as a hobby. I didn't 
plan to start USA Games to fight legal battles with Lucas, Edos, 
Activision, etc on their polacies and licenses. I don't like  it any 
more than you do, but sometimes you just can't win. Sometimes you need 
to face the facts of life. That fact is life isn't fair and never was.

josh wrote:
> so thomas could still sell his starwars game?
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Re: [Audyssey] The next issue

[Ron Schamerhorn]

Hi Davy

  The next issue will be published before the end of Feburary, around the 24 
or 25.  That way it's out before my birthday.  :D

Ron 


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Re: [Audyssey] joining the Interactive Fiction Group

[Orin]

What I did notice about this group is that they give you a lot of news  
on new games. http://www.roguelikefiction.com is pretty interesting.

I'll have to check that mag out.


On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Dark wrote:

> well, sinse you can just read the groups page like a web forum  
> rather than
> having messages delivered to you, traffic doesn't matter.
>
> but things did seem to get a tad technical, in discussion about the  
> parza
> and various merrits of If languages, and how game X could've been  
> better for
> being in language Y.
>
> that was a couple of years ago though, so it might have changed,  
>  or i
> might just have caught a particular bundle of tech discussion.
>
> For keeping up with If releases and reviews though, i'd recommend  
> the web
> magazine Spag, - which certainly isn't too technical and is  
> often quite
> fun.
>
> You can read it online at http://sparkynet.com/spag/frame.html
>
> Hmmm, it's a long time sinse I checked that.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.
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>> Thanks very much Dark, how heavy is the traffic, I might join, but  
>> like
>> you
>> I don't like technical stuff, I just want to keep up with what is  
>> released
>> and chat to people about if.
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Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks

[Leonard de Ruijter]

Hello Josh and others,

I will look in the database of the old community site for the track-
and carmaking tutorials.
-
Regards,
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On donderdag 31 januari 2008, at 3:00:57, wrote josh:

> Hi djc,

> Can you make a program so it's easier for us to make our own cars for top
> speed? ? or can you write a text file explaining how to do it and what each
> parameter does and the valid numbers for each parameter?


> - Original Message - 
> From: "djc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks


>> On my ftp I have 2 track makers. One is a random track maker and the other
>> one is the standard track maker. To get to my ftp do the following:
>>
>> ftp site: djc.my-net-space.net
>> username: PlayingInTheDark Note each word is capitalized.
>> password: racing
>> port: 21
>> No passive mode.
>>
>> The track makers are in the odds and ends area.
>>
>>
>> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>>
>> On 1/29/2008 at 3:25 PM Valiant \(on laptop\) wrote:
>>
>>>Hi.
>>>It's possible to create your own race tracks for topspeed. Look around on
>>>the topspeed's website and see if you can figure out how from there, if
>> not,
>>>I'll write it up but I'd like to not have to grins.
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "gamers discussion list" 
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:08 PM
>>>Subject: [Audyssey] top speed tracks
>>>
>>>
 Hi,

 Is it possible to create your own race tracks for the top speed game? If
>>
 so,
 how is this done or how do you do it?

 Josh



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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Jim,
Well, in my opinion Homer, Golf, Baseball, and Rail Racer are all sports 
games though coming from different sports.


Jim Kitchen wrote:
> Hi Dark,
>
> Besides baseball version 4, I also released golf version 10 in 07.
>
> Just wondering, isn't auto racing via Rail Racer a sport?  Would motorcycle 
> jumping via Homer on a Harley be a sport?  It's not exactally a racing game.  
> Maybe a fpd First Person Driving.   Life version 3 and Snakes and 
> Ladders version 2 would be board games, but what kind of game would Simon be? 
>  I guess like Bop It only it besides concentration and speed it also requires 
> memory.
>
> Sorry, I guess all I have is questions about game categories not answers.
>
> BFN
>
>  Jim
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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Che,
First, before we actually decide upon catagories what we should do is 
compile a master list of games produced in the last year. The games 
themselves should be able to give us an idea  of what catagories are 
possible for this year. possabilities.
As for commercial verses fre I am not totally sure that a free game 
would beat a commercial game. It is true there could be more players for 
that free game, but based on the results of JJ's 2007 awards Rail Racer, 
a commercial game, won anyway. Other nominations were the  Homer game 
and Bopit which are free. Admittedly though that could be they were 
simply out classed, but that only could prove my point a commercial game 
could beat a free game in voting.

Che wrote:
>   Right, but the problem with voting on commercial versus free games is the 
> user base is ten times that for a free game as it is for a commercial game, 
> and it would not be a fair competition since so many people would be voting 
> for the free games, not having played the commercial ones, so for me, this 
> seems like a must have difference in categories.
>   Regarding the sports category, I think these could be lumped into action. 
> Like wise, a card game could go into strategy, we just have to broaden the 
> definition of the categories a bit to keep the number down it seems to me.
>   Also, like Thomas and Raul I have lots of stuff going on outside of this 
> voting deal, so I would rather keep the categories to a manageable number, 
> less than ten total categories would be ideal.
>   Later,
>   Che
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[Bryan]

It's funny, but I'm having to do something similar in my life. You'll 
forgive me for straying from the topic of games briefly I hope, but I'm 
having some difficulty with the housing authority letting me get a guide 
dog. Right now they seem to think they can count the service animal as a 
pet, so they're telling me that if I were to get a guide dog and later want 
a pet I'd have to get rid of my guide dog. But it goes back to what you said 
about companies not listening to you as an individual, but if you have some 
sort of atourney or other legal personality you at least stand a chance.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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> Hi Bryan,
> That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my Tomb Raider game
> and Star Wars games as fan fiction, make them open source, etc it might
> be enough to cover my butt legally since I did not technically make any
> money off the games. However, that still breaks the part of the end user
> license agreement that states that all sounds, music, pictures, etc are
> for my soul use, and may not be transmitted, sublicenced, etc without
> the expressed permission of the copyright holder. If so that really
> screws me if I want to even offer a free version of the game.
> What all this really boils down to is if I really want to work with
> copyrighted materials I will have to retain an attorney to give me the
> necesary legal view with copyrights to find out exactly what I can and
> can not do. Perhaps an attorney might be able to get some permission
> from the various licensing offices for the copyright holders to do what
> I want to do legally. Generally, speaking my previous experience with
> companies is they won't listen to you as an individual, but they will
> listen to your attorney if they make the request through more legal
> channels. However, obtaining an attorney to do this is not exactly a
> cheap prospect.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[Thomas Ward]

Hi,
Well, as i pointed out so many times on this list alone it goes beyond 
greed or a lack of desire to offer accessible games for us. It is simply 
we don't have the numbers to prove we actually matter. They aren't going 
to spend x amount of time to add accessibility for game x for just 
$2000, $5000, or $1. Their least paid game developer makes at a 
minimum 5 or 6 times that amount per year. Making accessible games for 
blind people is something that has to pay off for them, or they simply 
will not do it.
Let us assume Lucas Arts or someone takes the time to make one of there 
new games fully accessible. If there marketing research returns no 
increase in sales, or they only pull in 2000 blinks with their new game 
they are going to state it was a failior and not a success, because 
success for these people is several thousand blind gamers. Do you guys 
see the problem?
However, on the other hand they are not exactly going to hand the job 
over to someone else for free. They are in the business of making money, 
licensing their product, and legally have the power of saying who can do 
what.

Bryan wrote:
> Most mainstream devs are. True, Nintendo did seem very open to the idea of 
> blind accessible games when I spoke to them a while back, but I still 
> wouldn't fancy trying to copy one of their titles without perrmission. 
> Dragon Slayer Games is certainly pushing their luck with their Mario game. 
> Admittedly it's probably going to be free, but still. Anyway, as far as I'm 
> concerned that Mario game, despite their claim, isn't really in the true 
> Mario spirit, even if it features music and sounds from the game.
> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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> From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> yes true. Lucas arts is just greedy greedy greedy that's all.
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Bryan,
That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my Tomb Raider game 
and Star Wars games as fan fiction, make them open source, etc it might 
be enough to cover my butt legally since I did not technically make any 
money off the games. However, that still breaks the part of the end user 
license agreement that states that all sounds, music, pictures, etc are 
for my soul use, and may not be transmitted, sublicenced, etc without 
the expressed permission of the copyright holder. If so that really 
screws me if I want to even offer a free version of the game.
What all this really boils down to is if I really want to work with 
copyrighted materials I will have to retain an attorney to give me the 
necesary legal view with copyrights to find out exactly what I can and 
can not do. Perhaps an attorney might be able to get some permission 
from the various licensing offices for the copyright holders to do what 
I want to do legally. Generally, speaking my previous experience with 
companies is they won't listen to you as an individual, but they will 
listen to your attorney if they make the request through more legal 
channels. However, obtaining an attorney to do this is not exactly a 
cheap prospect.



Bryan wrote:
> That probably wouldn't be smart. At least if he released it as fanfiction 
> and freeware, Lucas Arts wouldn't have any leg to stand on because it was in 
> the public domain. But if he sold it...well you get the idea. It wouldn't be 
> pretty.
> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Josh,
Unfortunately, that kind of thinking doesn't do anyone any good. That 
won't stop them for suing for damages if they decided to take it to that 
extreme. Besides which if they get a court order to destroy my materials 
and I fail to comply with that court order that could be seenas contempt 
of court.
About the only way I know of to protect myself from that type of 
situation would either clone the software without using trade marks or 
design all of my copyrighted games under a open source license 
agreement. If I go with an open source license agreement that puts all 
of my hard work in the public domain with no financial backing for the 
product. Yeah, you guys get a free game, but what money or financial 
gain do I get out of it?


josh wrote:
> Hi thomas,
>
> if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy 
> it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been 
> sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern 
> countries.
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[Audyssey] judgement day

[josh]

Hi,

when I install judgement day I get an error. has this issue been resolved? 



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Re: [Audyssey] plans about top speed 3

[Davy Kager]

Yes, there is some development going on, and it's gonna be really neat 
stuff! I'm not sure if I'm allowed to talk about it though, so I'll keep my 
mouth shut for now...
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Hi. Some time ago I read on audiogames forum that developers of top speed
are planning realize Top Speed 3.
Do you know if they are still planiing it?
Thanks,
Jorge
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:29 PM
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> Josh,
>
> No, there isn't, but you're free to program a carmaker. Otherwise i
> will advise you to change an existing carfile.
> -
> Regards,
> Leonard de Ruijter
> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On donderdag 31 januari 2008, at 15:41:06, wrote josh:
>
>> too bad there isn't a program that helps you do this.
>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Davy Kager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music
>
>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You can change both the language and the music just by changing the
>>> .ogg-files in the Sounds\En-folder. Alternatively, you can create a new
>>> folder, such as Fr, and put your French language files in there. Then in
>>> racing.cfg you can change your language settings. It's indeed a little
>>> weird
>>> that the game crashes if you don't use the exactly right bitrates and
>>> such...
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "gamers discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:01 AM
>>> Subject: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> How do you create a language pack for topspeed2? And, can you change the
>>> music that is played in the menus?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year

[Che]

  Yes, Rail Racer and Sarah don't really match up, but what two games really 
do match up?Sarah is in a world of its own, as is Monty, as is Homer on 
a Harley.
We have to draw the line somewhere, and my previous message on the subject 
proposed a solution...
  In hopes of moving forward with this, please let me know what you think of 
those categories split up that way, such as Dark has done.  Just saying this 
or that doesn't work isn't really helping much.
  Thanks,
  Che 



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[Audyssey] Peg solitare

[Dark]

Hi ari.

I believe fox and geese is a two player game you can play on the same board 
with similar rules to draughts, though I don't really know much more about 
it.

I mention the solitare patience business though because I remember when we 
were discussing blank block there was a bit of confusion about the name.

i hope you enjoy spag,  it's deffinately worth reading. I should 
actually check it again myself sinse I haven't played any If for a while.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year


> Yeah Dark, I agree, I think it's also like the Draughts Checkers thing, we
> also call it Patience here, and I know the RNIB and the SANCB here sells
> accessible versions of Solitaire, although I'm still not sure why the RNIB
> call it something weird like Fox and Geese or something like that. Thanks
> for the magazine link though, I never knew about this, will look at it.
> Ari
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Re: [Audyssey] plans about top speed 3

[jorge]

Hi. Some time ago I read on audiogames forum that developers of top speed 
are planning realize Top Speed 3.
Do you know if they are still planiing it?
Thanks,
Jorge
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> Josh,
>
> No, there isn't, but you're free to program a carmaker. Otherwise i
> will advise you to change an existing carfile.
> -
> Regards,
> Leonard de Ruijter
> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On donderdag 31 januari 2008, at 15:41:06, wrote josh:
>
>> too bad there isn't a program that helps you do this.
>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Davy Kager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music
>
>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You can change both the language and the music just by changing the
>>> .ogg-files in the Sounds\En-folder. Alternatively, you can create a new
>>> folder, such as Fr, and put your French language files in there. Then in
>>> racing.cfg you can change your language settings. It's indeed a little
>>> weird
>>> that the game crashes if you don't use the exactly right bitrates and
>>> such...
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "gamers discussion list" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:01 AM
>>> Subject: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> How do you create a language pack for topspeed2? And, can you change the
>>> music that is played in the menus?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] mud at toastsoft.net

[Dakotah Rickard]

Hi. I love Miriani. I'm John Locklier: Hale.

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Certainly is now I've got the monkeytern problem sorted things are going
well.  Am enjoying couriering metals to different parts delivering mail and
salvaging debris.  See you out in space.

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Aha, so that's you. I'm Rothque Torraske, also in the Commonwealth. I'm also

out of local space looking for artifacts! Yay!

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> Hi all.
>
> A friend put me on to the mud hosted by toastsoft.net
>
> Brilliant.  I'm a member of the commonwealth aliense my pilot name is ray
> steel hope to see you there.
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Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music

[Leonard de Ruijter]

Josh,

No, there isn't, but you're free to program a carmaker. Otherwise i
will advise you to change an existing carfile.
-
Regards,
Leonard de Ruijter
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On donderdag 31 januari 2008, at 15:41:06, wrote josh:

> too bad there isn't a program that helps you do this.

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> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music


>> Hi,
>>
>> You can change both the language and the music just by changing the
>> .ogg-files in the Sounds\En-folder. Alternatively, you can create a new
>> folder, such as Fr, and put your French language files in there. Then in
>> racing.cfg you can change your language settings. It's indeed a little
>> weird
>> that the game crashes if you don't use the exactly right bitrates and
>> such...
>> - Original Message - 
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>> To: "gamers discussion list" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:01 AM
>> Subject: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How do you create a language pack for topspeed2? And, can you change the
>> music that is played in the menus?
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>>
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Re: [Audyssey] hunting for the audyssey zip file.

[ari]

Hi Thomas,
It's very hard to get individual, or multiple zipped files of Audyssey up to 
the latest one anymore. I looked for it last time, and every site I looked 
at stopped at 50. Also, why did Paul Henrichsen site stop, that was a great 
resource for games and audyssey.
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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year

[ari]

Yeah Dark, I agree, I think it's also like the Draughts Checkers thing, we 
also call it Patience here, and I know the RNIB and the SANCB here sells 
accessible versions of Solitaire, although I'm still not sure why the RNIB 
call it something weird like Fox and Geese or something like that. Thanks 
for the magazine link though, I never knew about this, will look at it.
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[Audyssey] Giftanum

[Jozwiak, Hunter (K12)]

Where is Giftanum. I heard Shane Davidson had it.

 

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Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music

[josh]

too bad there isn't a program that helps you do this.

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music


> Hi,
>
> You can change both the language and the music just by changing the
> .ogg-files in the Sounds\En-folder. Alternatively, you can create a new
> folder, such as Fr, and put your French language files in there. Then in
> racing.cfg you can change your language settings. It's indeed a little 
> weird
> that the game crashes if you don't use the exactly right bitrates and
> such...
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "gamers discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:01 AM
> Subject: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music
>
>
> Hi,
>
> How do you create a language pack for topspeed2? And, can you change the
> music that is played in the menus?
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[Liam Erven]

it just means that if thomas is sued, he will just be sued for company 
property instead of personal property.

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


so thomas could still sell his starwars game?

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


  If any developers have thoughts of using any copyrighted material and
making a profit from it, I highly suggest you set up a LLC for your company.
This stands for limited liability company, and basically protects the owner
from lawsuits going after their personal property for any claims.
  Though I don't intend on pushing copyright stuff with blind adrenaline,
this protects me if some bozo wants to claim my software screwed up his
computer or something similarly frivilous.
  A good lawyer can do this for you for around $100, plus you will need a
checking account for the company for tax purposes.
  Having seen some small businesses get burned, I highly recommend this
setup for any small game developers.
  Later,
  Che

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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


In which case, he'd! be! busted!  Very, very bad idea.

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- Original Message - 
From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


Hi thomas,

if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy
it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been
sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern
countries.

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


Hi Bryan,
Oh, yeah. Lucas Arts is very protective of their Star Wars copyrights.
Have you read the Star Wars terms of use lately? If not here is a small
quote from the Star Wars terms of use snipped from their license agreement.

Quote
STAR WARS; STAR WARS
: EPISODE I THE PHANTOM MENACE;
STAR WARS: EPISODE II ATTACK OF THE CLONES;
STAR WARS
: EPISODE III REVENGE OF THE SITH; STAR WARS
: EPISODE IV A NEW HOPE;
STAR WARS: EPISODE V THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK; STAR WARS
: EPISODE VI RETURN OF THE JEDI (collectively referred to herein as the “
Star Wars
Pictures”) and all other Lucasfilm productions, and all logos,
characters, artwork,
stories, information, names, software, and other elements associated
thereto are the sole and
exclusive property of Lucasfilm Ltd.. Any use of any of the materials on
this Site
other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly
prohibited.
The sale, auction, lease, loan, gift, trade or barter, or use of any of
the Star Wars materials
contained herein, for any other purpose except as expressly permitted
pursuant to
these Terms of Use, in any form, media or technology now known or
hereafter developed,
including the use of any of the aforementioned materials on any other
Web site or
networked computer environment, without a prior written consent from
Lucas, is expressly
prohibited. Except as expressly provided for under the Terms of Use, the
creation
of derivative works based on the materials contained herein is expressly
prohibited.
You may download one copy of the materials on any single computer for
your personal,
non-commercial home use only, provided you keep intact all copyright and
other proprietary
notices. Modification of the materials or use of the materials for any
other purpose
is a violation of Lucas’s copyright and other proprietary rights.
End quote

That is only part of the license agreement, and what I did show is very
strongly worded. I read later on in the agreement that any ideas,
emails, stories, pictures, etc you create with Star Wars instantly
becomes the property of Lucas Film and Lucas Arts no questions asked. So
even if I wrote such a game according to the terms of use section of the
license agreement they have the right to take the game away, destroy it,
or whatever they want to do with it. Kind of hard to fight a license
agreement like that in court blind or not.
While some developer can sit around saying they won't bother me because
I am blind that is being a bit unrealistic. They might not, but then
again they have every legal right to do so. Their license agreement
sounds like they are pretty serious and they don't take very kindly to
any copyright violation in any way shape or form. Even though they may
be in the wrong for not offering an accessible SW game for us.

Bryan wrote:
> Especially since the folks at Lucas Arts in p

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

[josh]

so thomas could still sell his starwars game?

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From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


  If any developers have thoughts of using any copyrighted material and
making a profit from it, I highly suggest you set up a LLC for your company.
This stands for limited liability company, and basically protects the owner
from lawsuits going after their personal property for any claims.
  Though I don't intend on pushing copyright stuff with blind adrenaline,
this protects me if some bozo wants to claim my software screwed up his
computer or something similarly frivilous.
  A good lawyer can do this for you for around $100, plus you will need a
checking account for the company for tax purposes.
  Having seen some small businesses get burned, I highly recommend this
setup for any small game developers.
  Later,
  Che

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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


In which case, he'd! be! busted!  Very, very bad idea.

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From: "josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


Hi thomas,

if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy
it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been
sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern
countries.

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights


Hi Bryan,
Oh, yeah. Lucas Arts is very protective of their Star Wars copyrights.
Have you read the Star Wars terms of use lately? If not here is a small
quote from the Star Wars terms of use snipped from their license agreement.

Quote
STAR WARS; STAR WARS
: EPISODE I THE PHANTOM MENACE;
STAR WARS: EPISODE II ATTACK OF THE CLONES;
STAR WARS
: EPISODE III REVENGE OF THE SITH; STAR WARS
: EPISODE IV A NEW HOPE;
STAR WARS: EPISODE V THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK; STAR WARS
: EPISODE VI RETURN OF THE JEDI (collectively referred to herein as the “
Star Wars
Pictures”) and all other Lucasfilm productions, and all logos,
characters, artwork,
stories, information, names, software, and other elements associated
thereto are the sole and
exclusive property of Lucasfilm Ltd.. Any use of any of the materials on
this Site
other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly
prohibited.
The sale, auction, lease, loan, gift, trade or barter, or use of any of
the Star Wars materials
contained herein, for any other purpose except as expressly permitted
pursuant to
these Terms of Use, in any form, media or technology now known or
hereafter developed,
including the use of any of the aforementioned materials on any other
Web site or
networked computer environment, without a prior written consent from
Lucas, is expressly
prohibited. Except as expressly provided for under the Terms of Use, the
creation
of derivative works based on the materials contained herein is expressly
prohibited.
You may download one copy of the materials on any single computer for
your personal,
non-commercial home use only, provided you keep intact all copyright and
other proprietary
notices. Modification of the materials or use of the materials for any
other purpose
is a violation of Lucas’s copyright and other proprietary rights.
End quote

That is only part of the license agreement, and what I did show is very
strongly worded. I read later on in the agreement that any ideas,
emails, stories, pictures, etc you create with Star Wars instantly
becomes the property of Lucas Film and Lucas Arts no questions asked. So
even if I wrote such a game according to the terms of use section of the
license agreement they have the right to take the game away, destroy it,
or whatever they want to do with it. Kind of hard to fight a license
agreement like that in court blind or not.
While some developer can sit around saying they won't bother me because
I am blind that is being a bit unrealistic. They might not, but then
again they have every legal right to do so. Their license agreement
sounds like they are pretty serious and they don't take very kindly to
any copyright violation in any way shape or form. Even though they may
be in the wrong for not offering an accessible SW game for us.

Bryan wrote:
> Especially since the folks at Lucas Arts in particular seem to be such
> jerks. I've heard a lot of things about them, that they've been known to
> attack fan sites for even inadvertently violating a copyright.
> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year

[Tj]

HI,

What aobuit being able to voat for more than one style of games.  Like best 
free game, best paid game, best over all, and you could voat for your game 
pick in each genre.

Tj
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year


> Hi Ron,
> I agree just splitting games into free and commercial doesn't quite fit
> the bill here. I can see where games like Sarah and Montezuma's Return
> could compete or be nominated under the same catagory because they both
> fit into a sort of action genre. However, Rail Racer is a great game,
> but it is a completely different style of game. Rail Racer vs Sarah
> doesn't quite match because it is that apple and oranges thing again.
>
>
> Ron Schamerhorn wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>>   Okay I've been meaning to get in on this voting but life's hectic
>> sometimes.
>>   Anyway I am glad that Che is able and willing to host the page for 
>> voting
>> which I think keeps things easier.  Thanks Che!
>>   Second we do need to have a few different catagories.  Commercial and 
>> free
>> are fine, however there should be slightly more division for the games.
>> Exactly what or how divided I'm not quite sure at this moment.  I'll look
>> back and see what games have been released in 2007 or if someone has a
>> comprehensive list then after reviewing it people could make suggestions.
>>   The main reason I feel we need a few catagories is as Dark said [I 
>> think
>> it was] comparing certain games is like apples and oranges.
>>   To extend things, perhaps a combination of game elements such as 
>> replay,
>> genre, could go along with more technical items such as game ambiance,
>> documentation, ease of gameplay etc.
>>   Hopefully I'll get a chance today to write up some further thoughts 
>> about
>> this.
>>
>> Ron
>> Audysssey Editor
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Ron,
I agree just splitting games into free and commercial doesn't quite fit 
the bill here. I can see where games like Sarah and Montezuma's Return 
could compete or be nominated under the same catagory because they both 
fit into a sort of action genre. However, Rail Racer is a great game, 
but it is a completely different style of game. Rail Racer vs Sarah 
doesn't quite match because it is that apple and oranges thing again.


Ron Schamerhorn wrote:
> Hi All
>
>   Okay I've been meaning to get in on this voting but life's hectic
> sometimes.
>   Anyway I am glad that Che is able and willing to host the page for voting
> which I think keeps things easier.  Thanks Che!
>   Second we do need to have a few different catagories.  Commercial and free
> are fine, however there should be slightly more division for the games.
> Exactly what or how divided I'm not quite sure at this moment.  I'll look
> back and see what games have been released in 2007 or if someone has a
> comprehensive list then after reviewing it people could make suggestions.
>   The main reason I feel we need a few catagories is as Dark said [I think
> it was] comparing certain games is like apples and oranges.
>   To extend things, perhaps a combination of game elements such as replay,
> genre, could go along with more technical items such as game ambiance,
> documentation, ease of gameplay etc.
>   Hopefully I'll get a chance today to write up some further thoughts about
> this.
>
> Ron
> Audysssey Editor
>
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Re: [Audyssey] hunting for the audyssey zip file.

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Shane,
i know of two places where you can get all the magazines. Kelly has an 
Audyssey magazine mirror, but I can't for the life of me remember the 
address.
You can also usually get most of the mags from
http://www.audiogames.net
which is like the central resource for anything audio game related.


Shane Davidson wrote:
> Hey folks,
> I've been playing audyssey magazine catch up.
> I can't seem to find a place to get the zip file containing all past issues 
> up to the current published issue.
> Darren's zip file is sorrily out of date. grin.
> It only has issues 1 to 43.
> I have up to 48 but I would like to have issues 49 to the present in .txt 
> form.
> I'm willing to also host a home for audyssey once I have all current issues 
> in my posession.
> Thanks.
> shane
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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year

[Dark]

Wikipedia is your friend, there's a good artical about the game.

I've always called that one peg solitare, sinse in england I think the card 
solitare games were more traditionally called patience,  my Gran 
certainly always used to refer to them as patience.

Again though, try wikipedia for the details.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:48 AM
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> Hi Charles
>
>  You could be on to an interesting article idea with that one.  Maybe a
> little about the games history and possible evolution over the years.
>
> Ron
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year
>
>
> Got one around somewhere?  I could send you the solution, off list, if I
> remember how to do it.  Or I could send the solution in as an article for
> Audyssey, along with a way to maybe make one of the games if I can think 
> of
> a way to do it using a sheet of braille paper and a Perkins brailler, 
> using
> pennies and a dime as the game pieces.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year

[Dark]

appologies Jim, I forgot about golf v10 when thinking about sport,   
either way you seem to have a monopoly there as well ;D.

My gut reaction would be that only a game simulating real professional motor 
racing,  such as i believe Usa race way will would count as a sport. 
Afterall, with the exception of super football (which seems based on the 
Serbuteo table football game), I think all the sport games we have follow 
the real world rules of their sports fairly accurately,  golf and 
Baseball certainly do.

Rr is deffinately set in it's own scifi world and has it's own rules, rather 
than following any racing standards I think, ditto with Homer, though that 
would be the world of springfield and the logic of the groning racing 
association.

sorry just my thoughts there.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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To: "Dark" 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year


> Hi Dark,
>
> Besides baseball version 4, I also released golf version 10 in 07.
>
> Just wondering, isn't auto racing via Rail Racer a sport?  Would 
> motorcycle jumping via Homer on a Harley be a sport?  It's not exactally a 
> racing game.  Maybe a fpd First Person Driving.   Life version 3 and 
> Snakes and Ladders version 2 would be board games, but what kind of game 
> would Simon be?  I guess like Bop It only it besides concentration and 
> speed it also requires memory.
>
> Sorry, I guess all I have is questions about game categories not answers.
>
> BFN
>
> Jim
>
> Alpha/Beta testing requires masochistic tendencies.
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Re: [Audyssey] joining the Interactive Fiction Group

[Dark]

well, sinse you can just read the groups page like a web forum rather than 
having messages delivered to you, traffic doesn't matter.

but things did seem to get a tad technical, in discussion about the parza 
and various merrits of If languages, and how game X could've been better for 
being in language Y.

that was a couple of years ago though, so it might have changed,  or i 
might just have caught a particular bundle of tech discussion.

For keeping up with If releases and reviews though, i'd recommend the web 
magazine Spag, - which certainly isn't too technical and is often quite 
fun.

You can read it online at http://sparkynet.com/spag/frame.html

Hmmm, it's a long time sinse I checked that.

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> Thanks very much Dark, how heavy is the traffic, I might join, but like 
> you
> I don't like technical stuff, I just want to keep up with what is released
> and chat to people about if.
> Ari
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Re: [Audyssey] Question about 7-128 Game Book.

[Thomas Ward]

Hi John,
Yeah, I think a speech range of 150 to 450 is just fine for me.
Though, personally I think you might want to go by 25 units for some 
other users who may want to more fine tune the speech rate. Using 50 
units is ok with me, but like I said for some other users 25 may be better.

John Bannick wrote:
> Thomas,
>
> Mbrola was what I wanted to use.
> For one thing, it would allow me to better build some non-English voices.
> However, at the time, and possibly now, the developers forbade its use in 
> commercial products.
> The Europeans are funny that way sometimes.
> FreeTTS has no such restrictions.
>
> BTW. I'm setting the words per minute to start at 150 and increment by 50 
> up to 450.
> Does that work for you?
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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year

[Dark]

Hmmm, that's certainly true about the different sized player base, but I 
wouldn't have commercial games always totally separate from free games in 
all catagories either.

How about best commercial game, best free game, and then generic genre 
catagories such as action and stratogy and board/card/puzle.

I know this isn't an ideal solution, but having free and commercial 
distinctions in each genre catagory would imho chop things up too much, and 
also be more work for you to impliment.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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>  Right, but the problem with voting on commercial versus free games is the
> user base is ten times that for a free game as it is for a commercial 
> game,
> and it would not be a fair competition since so many people would be 
> voting
> for the free games, not having played the commercial ones, so for me, this
> seems like a must have difference in categories.
>  Regarding the sports category, I think these could be lumped into action.
> Like wise, a card game could go into strategy, we just have to broaden the
> definition of the categories a bit to keep the number down it seems to me.
>  Also, like Thomas and Raul I have lots of stuff going on outside of this
> voting deal, so I would rather keep the categories to a manageable number,
> less than ten total categories would be ideal.
>  Later,
>  Che
>
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>
>
>> Hi Che.
>>
>> the problem I believe with doing it by genre as Tom said, is that so few
>> games of given genres have been produced, it'd be a forgone conclusion.
>> for
>> example, I think the only sports game produced this year has been the
>> update
>> to Jim's win baseball.
>>
>> I do agree catagories like action and stratogy might be useful, but
>> personally I'd rather use those than commercial vs free, sinse there have
>> been some free games like Sound Rts and topspeed 2 which are amazingly
>> extensive and deep, and one or two commercial games, which I personally
>> have
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Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks

[djc]

I only wrote 1 car called the telephone car and I just basically used
numbers from another car file and just made changes. Someone else on here
is probably a better person to help you.


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On 1/30/2008 at 9:00 PM josh wrote:

>Hi djc,
>
>Can you make a program so it's easier for us to make our own cars for top 
>speed? ? or can you write a text file explaining how to do it and what
each 
>parameter does and the valid numbers for each parameter?
>
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:22 PM
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>
>
>> On my ftp I have 2 track makers. One is a random track maker and the
other
>> one is the standard track maker. To get to my ftp do the following:
>>
>> ftp site: djc.my-net-space.net
>> username: PlayingInTheDark Note each word is capitalized.
>> password: racing
>> port: 21
>> No passive mode.
>>
>> The track makers are in the odds and ends area.
>>
>>
>> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>>
>> On 1/29/2008 at 3:25 PM Valiant \(on laptop\) wrote:
>>
>>>Hi.
>>>It's possible to create your own race tracks for topspeed. Look around
on
>>>the topspeed's website and see if you can figure out how from there, if
>> not,
>>>I'll write it up but I'd like to not have to grins.
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>>>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:08 PM
>>>Subject: [Audyssey] top speed tracks
>>>
>>>
 Hi,

 Is it possible to create your own race tracks for the top speed game?
If
>>
 so,
 how is this done or how do you do it?

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Re: [Audyssey] This is Ridiculous

[Ken the Crazy]

A list for new games announcements would be awesome!
Ken Downey
President
DreamTechInteractive!
And,
Blind Comfort!
The pleasant way to experience massage!
It's the Caring
without the Staring!

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>
>Ok, so maybe my original post was a little harsh. *shrug* All I'm 
> saying
> is, is it really necessary to reply to every single message on the list? I
> read audyssey to see when new games and the like come out, not to discuss
> programming and why people can't use self-voicing programs or what people
> think the best sapi voice is and the like. Perhaps there should be a list
> split off from audyssey for game announcements only? That's all I'm
> interested in, not having my inbox spammed by the same 2 or 3 people on a
> daily basis.
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Re: [Audyssey] hand held fishing games

[Mich]

hi I just did a google serch for Lunker Bass Fishing game and came up 
withthe game. so it is still around and still avaible. as for any of the 
other hand held fishing games i have not played any but i just thought that 
iw ould let you know what i found out. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
Ontario Canada.
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> Has anyone had success with any of the handheld games of fishing that are 
> sort of like a vibrating fishing rod?  I have one called "Lunker Deep Sea" 
> that I haven't been able to use as of yet.  I was able to catch fish with 
> one several years back that was called "lunker bass", but this one must be 
> more visual than that one was, and it doesn't have as good of a feel to it 
> when a fish nibbles.
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Re: [Audyssey] The next issue

[Davy Kager]

Hi,

When will the next issue be published? I don't ask for exact dates, just an 
estimation.

Thanks.
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Hi

  Even if there is more then one review of a given game that's not a bad
thing.  Different people can have differing opinions about a game.

Ron

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I'd do a review of Monte if anyone wants. Will be my first review about it,
so it
might suck, but what doya all think?



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Re: [Audyssey] top speed language packs and music

[Davy Kager]

Hi,

You can change both the language and the music just by changing the 
.ogg-files in the Sounds\En-folder. Alternatively, you can create a new 
folder, such as Fr, and put your French language files in there. Then in 
racing.cfg you can change your language settings. It's indeed a little weird 
that the game crashes if you don't use the exactly right bitrates and 
such...
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Hi,

How do you create a language pack for topspeed2? And, can you change the
music that is played in the menus?



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Re: [Audyssey] Award catagories was: voting on game of the year

[Jim Kitchen]

Hi Dark,

Besides baseball version 4, I also released golf version 10 in 07.

Just wondering, isn't auto racing via Rail Racer a sport?  Would motorcycle 
jumping via Homer on a Harley be a sport?  It's not exactally a racing game.  
Maybe a fpd First Person Driving.   Life version 3 and Snakes and Ladders 
version 2 would be board games, but what kind of game would Simon be?  I guess 
like Bop It only it besides concentration and speed it also requires memory.

Sorry, I guess all I have is questions about game categories not answers.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] joining the Interactive Fiction Group

[Jim Kitchen]

Hi Ari,

All of the tens of thousands of News Groups are still very active.  Including 
the Usenet groups.  A sighted friend of mine set up an inaccessible News Groups 
robot program for me that scarfs the sound files from such groups as 
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.sound-effects and alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.video-games.  
So far I have gotten over thirty thousand sound files that I search through for 
use in my games.  However I have been told that as long as your provider 
provides the News Groups that Out Look can be set up to access them.

HTH

BFN

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