Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries Of The Aztecs FAQ.

2008-02-16 Thread Dark
Hi tom.

appologies for slightly repeating one already asked question, but while I'm 
certainly looking forward to the new mysteries of the aztecs game, I do stil 
rather like monti, and certainly haven't uninstalled it (especially if Mota 
is going to change things so radically).

while I understand the reasons for not offering Montizuma's revenge, would 
it be possible to rename the old Monti beta 9 game (with accompanying 
changing soundbite), to something like Angela in Montizuma's temple, and 
have it as an extra for people who'd already bought Mota.

I can just see in future, people wanting to play the old Monti levels, and 
there being a lot of requests that you host them,  so I'm thinking about 
forstalling that first.

Appologies that this would mean yet another renaming,  I'm just 
remembering all the people (including me), who request to play old games, 
such as self destruct, Tarzan Jr and danger city.

(I personally bought Tj back when Pb games was up and running, but I'm now 
glad it's available for everyone).

Beware the Grue!

Dark. 


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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
Very well said.

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From: "Damien Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

> OK. Let's get one thing straight here. Forget about the prices for a sec,
> forget even Acefire. Let's talk X-Sight in general.
> Right. What about Acefire preorders? Everybody messes up! I was being
> bombarded with comments, advice and suggestions. Confusions is one of the
> worst things to have to deal with as a beginner developer. As for
> LightTech's free games, that's their decision to make it free, just like
> it's my decision to charge for Acefire.
> If you saw just how much testing this thing has been through, how much 
> money
> I've spent on it, how stressed out I got, not only from this but from all
> other activity in my life, people nagging and pressurising me not just for
> new features, this and that, but for personal issues as well, if I wasn't 
> on
> such a limited budget, if this didn't have to come out of my own money, 
> for
> your information, I could be thrown out of college because of my outside
> activities. Not that it probably matters to you all who buy and play or 
> use,
> but to a developer, it's a lot of hard work. That code is 667kb in size,
> 21512 lines, and in my honest opinion I feel that your message was rather
> rude on the subject of mistakes, messups and high prices.
> I'm sorry Cory, but I think you need to sit down and try and develop a 
> game
> or piece of software and tell me then what it feels like as a first-timer.
> All I can say is, for what Acefire is right now, and for what Dectalk
> Scripter and Talking Timepiece will be in the future, I've bent over
> backwards to add features that people are constantly requesting, and I 
> said
> that there's more to come in 2.0. I've got about forty different projects
> I'm attempting to work on at once. When I'm working on Acefire, I've got
> somebody contacting me about Danger City. When I work on Chopper 
> Challenge,
> I get someone contact me about Acefire. When I finally get to work on 
> Danger
> City, someone else will come along and ask about Dectalk Scripter.
> No program is ever fully completed as we all know. Programs and games are
> constantly getting updated, and I've developed for free for so long now,
> buying custom made libraries, off-the-shelf libraries, sounds, music, and 
> am
> sick of getting nothing back for it. That's how devs get broke. I can't 
> even
> live, because I'm constantly working for X-Sight. I'm constantly roaming 
> the
> country staying at friend's house and eating their food.
> I won't mention any names, but there's three people in particular who
> encouraged me to sell this game, one of them himself being a developer. 
> Now
> I get a price/game release rebellion. I was told and advised to knock the
> price down. I knocked the price down, making the pay very low for me.
> If you'd rather I finished it there, developed for myself instead, I could
> easily flush the whole lot down the toilet, take down the whole site, and
> easily spend as much money as I've spent on X-Sight over the past two 
> years
> on a decent Yamaha Tyros II keyboard while still being able to buy my own
> food and arrange to move over to the states to live and spend time with my
> girlfriend.
> I'm sorry if this message appears harsh, but I feel you ought to know the
> long and short of it.
> Thanks.
> Regards,
> Damien
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Cory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>
>> that darn thing should be free. Bet lite tech has spent more time
>> programming there free games then you did. I'm sorry, but it's most 
>> likely
>> true. Plus, you have had so many screw ups. Like the hole ready for
>> preorder
>> and stuff. That broke. In my respectful openyan, it may come across the
>> wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for. Sorry,
>> but
>> that's how I feel.
>>
>> Rock,
>>
>> Cory
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Damien Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:00 AM
>> Subject: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> OK, I have brought the price down from 35 to $20.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Regards,
>>> Damien
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[Audyssey] UK devs any1 4cricket

2008-02-16 Thread Mark Pemberton
Hi,  gamers I talk to, over here,  would love a accessible cricket game to 
play.  Just how difficult would it be to turn a tried and trusted board game 
such as Wicketz into a pc game for us cricket fans?  I would gladly pay good 
money for that.  Jim Kitchen seems to have the expertise...Anyone out there in 
the cricket playing world got the know how?  20 20 1 day or test anything would 
be fantastic!

Mark
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Re: [Audyssey] UK devs any1 4cricket

2008-02-16 Thread ari
Hi Mark,
I think at the moment, for cricket fans like us, and even football, it's 
just a fantasy for the moment. These sports are so popular that, as I've 
said forever, it would be great to give such projects to RNIB or, for the 
football, let blind organisations all over Europe come together to produce a 
mega game. As far as I'm concerned, if you want a really good cricket game 
with teams, sounds, and commentary, that's probably not something you just 
want one guy to do, you need much feedback, you need people from all over 
the cricket world like us from South Africa, our Ausie, Kiwi, New Zealand 
and English pals, and of course India, I mean, there are many blind people 
in India, I actually would think that organisations could cooperate on a 
cricket game as well. Well, at the moment, your only choice is Batrick, we 
can do that in the meantime. When I think of a cricket game, I'm thinking of 
some sort of solution where we could use stereo again, where, let's say, the 
batsman has an area stretching from the far left to the far right, the 
bowler tries and bowls, and the batsman maybe tries to move towards the ball 
and hit it, he can hit it to different directions, but there are many other 
complex things like fielding and things, I don't want a game where I just 
press a number for the shot I want, I've always thought that sports games 
should really most of the time hardly ever be down to luck, and that, if you 
time or do your moves exactly according to extreme split-second timing, you 
should get results, because a sports game like cricket and football for me, 
quite a bit of the time it can work a little bit on randomness, but rather 
also work on whether you're able to keep focus and concentrate, or, if you 
use some players and make them run too much, they get tired.
Ari 


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[Audyssey] FW: GMA Tank Commander, really stuck on sector 1

2008-02-16 Thread nicol


-Original Message-
From: Charles Rivard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:41 AM
To: nicol
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA Tank Commander, really stuck on sector 1

I wasn't.  I was giving good advise that more gamers should follow.  The
answers to his questions are right in the instructions manual.

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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Audyssey] GMA Tank Commander, really stuck on sector 1


> Don't make fun of andy.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Charles Rivard
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:13 AM
> To: Andy Smith; Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA Tank Commander, really stuck on sector 1
>
> The answers to every one of your problems is in the user's manual, which
> you
> must've not read yet?
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
Damion is totally unreasonable.
Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
Why?why? why?
Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
It should be free
It should be free
It should be free.
Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its free.
It should be free
It should be free
It should be free

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Behalf Of Cory
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

that darn thing should be free. Bet lite tech has spent more time
programming there free games then you did. I'm sorry, but it's most likely
true. Plus, you have had so many screw ups. Like the hole ready for preorder
and stuff. That broke. In my respectful openyan, it may come across the
wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for. Sorry, but
that's how I feel.

Rock,

Cory



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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
Ace! Fire!'s price!is! totally! Totally ridiculous!
Why! on!  Earth!~ do! We! Have! To! Pay! For! A! little! Game! Only !
consisting!of
! randomizing!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Damien Sadler
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:27 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

OK. Let's get one thing straight here. Forget about the prices for a sec,
forget even Acefire. Let's talk X-Sight in general.
Right. What about Acefire preorders? Everybody messes up! I was being
bombarded with comments, advice and suggestions. Confusions is one of the
worst things to have to deal with as a beginner developer. As for
LightTech's free games, that's their decision to make it free, just like
it's my decision to charge for Acefire.
If you saw just how much testing this thing has been through, how much money
I've spent on it, how stressed out I got, not only from this but from all
other activity in my life, people nagging and pressurising me not just for
new features, this and that, but for personal issues as well, if I wasn't on
such a limited budget, if this didn't have to come out of my own money, for
your information, I could be thrown out of college because of my outside
activities. Not that it probably matters to you all who buy and play or use,
but to a developer, it's a lot of hard work. That code is 667kb in size,
21512 lines, and in my honest opinion I feel that your message was rather
rude on the subject of mistakes, messups and high prices.
I'm sorry Cory, but I think you need to sit down and try and develop a game
or piece of software and tell me then what it feels like as a first-timer.
All I can say is, for what Acefire is right now, and for what Dectalk
Scripter and Talking Timepiece will be in the future, I've bent over
backwards to add features that people are constantly requesting, and I said
that there's more to come in 2.0. I've got about forty different projects
I'm attempting to work on at once. When I'm working on Acefire, I've got
somebody contacting me about Danger City. When I work on Chopper Challenge,
I get someone contact me about Acefire. When I finally get to work on Danger
City, someone else will come along and ask about Dectalk Scripter.
No program is ever fully completed as we all know. Programs and games are
constantly getting updated, and I've developed for free for so long now,
buying custom made libraries, off-the-shelf libraries, sounds, music, and am
sick of getting nothing back for it. That's how devs get broke. I can't even
live, because I'm constantly working for X-Sight. I'm constantly roaming the
country staying at friend's house and eating their food.
I won't mention any names, but there's three people in particular who
encouraged me to sell this game, one of them himself being a developer. Now
I get a price/game release rebellion. I was told and advised to knock the
price down. I knocked the price down, making the pay very low for me.
If you'd rather I finished it there, developed for myself instead, I could
easily flush the whole lot down the toilet, take down the whole site, and
easily spend as much money as I've spent on X-Sight over the past two years
on a decent Yamaha Tyros II keyboard while still being able to buy my own
food and arrange to move over to the states to live and spend time with my
girlfriend.
I'm sorry if this message appears harsh, but I feel you ought to know the
long and short of it.
Thanks.
Regards,
Damien




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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
For god's sake! If you're not happy with the price, don't buy it! Quit 
crying to all of us how everything should be free, everything should be 
handed to us on a silver platter, totally free, just because we're blind. We 
can't see, so don't make us pay, is the general idea i'm getting from all 
your messages, either that or you're just saying "Screw AceFire, we don't 
like it". If this is the case, then take it off list, take it up with the 
developer of AceFire. Make your own audio game, put a price on it and see 
how many orders you get!

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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

> hi i agree you have to buy extra music etcetera but i don't think you
> will get many orders
>
> On 16 Feb 2008, at 14:53, nicol wrote:
>
>> Damion is totally unreasonable.
>> Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
>> Why?why? why?
>> Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
>> It should be free
>> It should be free
>> It should be free.
>> Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its free.
>> It should be free
>> It should be free
>> It should be free
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Behalf Of Cory
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>
>> that darn thing should be free. Bet lite tech has spent more time
>> programming there free games then you did. I'm sorry, but it's most
>> likely
>> true. Plus, you have had so many screw ups. Like the hole ready for
>> preorder
>> and stuff. That broke. In my respectful openyan, it may come across
>> the
>> wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for.
>> Sorry, but
>> that's how I feel.
>>
>> Rock,
>>
>> Cory
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Jeremy Gilley
here here, i totally agree, this is just getting out,of,hand.
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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:05 AM
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> For god's sake! If you're not happy with the price, don't buy it! Quit
> crying to all of us how everything should be free, everything should be
> handed to us on a silver platter, totally free, just because we're blind. 
> We
> can't see, so don't make us pay, is the general idea i'm getting from all
> your messages, either that or you're just saying "Screw AceFire, we don't
> like it". If this is the case, then take it off list, take it up with the
> developer of AceFire. Make your own audio game, put a price on it and see
> how many orders you get!
>
> --
> From: "william lomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:59 PM
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>> hi i agree you have to buy extra music etcetera but i don't think you
>> will get many orders
>>
>> On 16 Feb 2008, at 14:53, nicol wrote:
>>
>>> Damion is totally unreasonable.
>>> Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
>>> Why?why? why?
>>> Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
>>> It should be free
>>> It should be free
>>> It should be free.
>>> Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its free.
>>> It should be free
>>> It should be free
>>> It should be free
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers-
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Behalf Of Cory
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>>
>>> that darn thing should be free. Bet lite tech has spent more time
>>> programming there free games then you did. I'm sorry, but it's most
>>> likely
>>> true. Plus, you have had so many screw ups. Like the hole ready for
>>> preorder
>>> and stuff. That broke. In my respectful openyan, it may come across
>>> the
>>> wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for.
>>> Sorry, but
>>> that's how I feel.
>>>
>>> Rock,
>>>
>>> Cory
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread william lomas
hi i agree you have to buy extra music etcetera but i don't think you  
will get many orders

On 16 Feb 2008, at 14:53, nicol wrote:

> Damion is totally unreasonable.
> Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
> Why?why? why?
> Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
> It should be free
> It should be free
> It should be free.
> Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its free.
> It should be free
> It should be free
> It should be free
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Cory
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
> that darn thing should be free. Bet lite tech has spent more time
> programming there free games then you did. I'm sorry, but it's most  
> likely
> true. Plus, you have had so many screw ups. Like the hole ready for  
> preorder
> and stuff. That broke. In my respectful openyan, it may come across  
> the
> wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for.  
> Sorry, but
> that's how I feel.
>
> Rock,
>
> Cory
>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Please stop the acefire wranting!

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
I couldn't agree with you more. Just stop the complaining and be happy there
is audio games. If you don't like it,  just please keep it to yourself,
unless you have a suggestion of what to add. It takes a long time to code
these things, I've said this many times, unless you can make something
better, then you shouldn't be ranting... thats all I have to say.. use some
respect please...
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Re: [Audyssey] Please stop the acefire wranting!

2008-02-16 Thread Jeremy Gilley
agreed
- Original Message - 
From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:12 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Please stop the acefire wranting!


> Hi people.
>
> As I am not a moderater or anything similar, it is probably not my place 
> to say, but I am getting slightly tired of reading E-mails going ballistic 
> over acefire.
>
> Legitimately cryticising or defending the game in a calm and reasonable 
> manner is fine (it's what this list is for), but these constant "Acefire 
> is an awful game" or E-mails are taking up valuable list time, and getting 
> everyone immotional and upset.
>
> Whatever we think of any game, will people please remember that someone 
> has spent time writing thousands of lines of code, collecting sfx etc to 
> make it happen. As I said, it's quite reasonable to then take a good look 
> at that game, and recommend improvements or suggestions, but just sending 
> long wrants about it's awfullness does nobody any good.
>
> The same with the price issue. Remember that if this were a mainstream 
> game you'd never have chance to even speak to the devs about the 
> price, - in fact a good percentage of the price would be going to the 
> retailer who sold the game anyway.
>
> If you find the price unreasonable,  explain your reasons calmly,   
> bbut also remember that it is up to damien to set the price,  and up 
> to you to buy or not buy the game as you see fit.
>
> can we please! have a litle maturity here!
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread william lomas
least i voice my opinion and i not afraid too either i got the balls  
to voice what i think and it should be free look at light tech  
interactive they are free games but in my view, worth paying fore

On 16 Feb 2008, at 15:05, James Scholes wrote:

> For god's sake! If you're not happy with the price, don't buy it! Quit
> crying to all of us how everything should be free, everything should  
> be
> handed to us on a silver platter, totally free, just because we're  
> blind. We
> can't see, so don't make us pay, is the general idea i'm getting  
> from all
> your messages, either that or you're just saying "Screw AceFire, we  
> don't
> like it". If this is the case, then take it off list, take it up  
> with the
> developer of AceFire. Make your own audio game, put a price on it  
> and see
> how many orders you get!
>
> --
> From: "william lomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:59 PM
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>> hi i agree you have to buy extra music etcetera but i don't think you
>> will get many orders
>>
>> On 16 Feb 2008, at 14:53, nicol wrote:
>>
>>> Damion is totally unreasonable.
>>> Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
>>> Why?why? why?
>>> Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
>>> It should be free
>>> It should be free
>>> It should be free.
>>> Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its  
>>> free.
>>> It should be free
>>> It should be free
>>> It should be free
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers-
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Behalf Of Cory
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>>
>>> that darn thing should be free. Bet lite tech has spent more time
>>> programming there free games then you did. I'm sorry, but it's most
>>> likely
>>> true. Plus, you have had so many screw ups. Like the hole ready for
>>> preorder
>>> and stuff. That broke. In my respectful openyan, it may come across
>>> the
>>> wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for.
>>> Sorry, but
>>> that's how I feel.
>>>
>>> Rock,
>>>
>>> Cory
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
Have some decency people! All those features COST MONEY, the MUSIC COSTS
MONEY, you are entitled to your opinion, but I am asking to keep it to
yourself, but I can't take any action so... try writing over 20 thousand
lines of code, paying loads of money for libraries, and everything else, it
costs, alot. No ones forcing you to buy it, so don't. If you can't do
something much better, you are in no position to complain, I am entitled to
my opinion like everyone else.

-Ryan
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[Audyssey] tennis

2008-02-16 Thread william lomas
hi


wouldnt it be cool if we had a tennis game where we had to do  
backhands forehands etcetera?
I think one developer is working on the wii sports pack, forget who  
though


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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
No, you don't get the point.
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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:01 PM
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We get the point, you want it to be free.



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[Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello gamers,
I just wanted to drop a little note to let everyone know what the 
current status of the Mysteries Of The Aztecs poll results are. So far 
it looks like a pretty close race, but the side-scroller style seams to 
be leading the voting. Here is the results as of 10:30 AM Feb. 16.

3D FPS: 7
2D Side-Scroller: 9

Cheers.

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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
Hey, william never asked for hunter, pipe2, shades of doom, tank commander,
super deek out to be free.
A simple randomizing game should be free.
He is not asking for everything on a  silver platter.
Ace fire  is far from a fps or rpg game.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of James Scholes
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:06 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

For god's sake! If you're not happy with the price, don't buy it! Quit
crying to all of us how everything should be free, everything should be
handed to us on a silver platter, totally free, just because we're blind. We
can't see, so don't make us pay, is the general idea i'm getting from all
your messages, either that or you're just saying "Screw AceFire, we don't
like it". If this is the case, then take it off list, take it up with the
developer of AceFire. Make your own audio game, put a price on it and see
how many orders you get!

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Re: [Audyssey] UK devs any1 4cricket

2008-02-16 Thread Mark Pemberton
Hi Ari, I like your ideas but partly why I mentioned a cricket board game 
already popular and in existence is because that must be a easier option to 
get a cricket game off the ground.  The dev wouldn't have to be an expert in 
the game, just convert the written rules and give it some atmospheric sound 
effects and playability.  The 20 20 version would also be an easier version 
of the game to start
off with.  But hey!  What do I know about programming?
Mark.- Original Message - 
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] UK devs any1 4cricket


> Hi Mark,
> I think at the moment, for cricket fans like us, and even football, it's
> just a fantasy for the moment. These sports are so popular that, as I've
> said forever, it would be great to give such projects to RNIB or, for the
> football, let blind organisations all over Europe come together to produce 
> a
> mega game. As far as I'm concerned, if you want a really good cricket game
> with teams, sounds, and commentary, that's probably not something you just
> want one guy to do, you need much feedback, you need people from all over
> the cricket world like us from South Africa, our Ausie, Kiwi, New Zealand
> and English pals, and of course India, I mean, there are many blind people
> in India, I actually would think that organisations could cooperate on a
> cricket game as well. Well, at the moment, your only choice is Batrick, we
> can do that in the meantime. When I think of a cricket game, I'm thinking 
> of
> some sort of solution where we could use stereo again, where, let's say, 
> the
> batsman has an area stretching from the far left to the far right, the
> bowler tries and bowls, and the batsman maybe tries to move towards the 
> ball
> and hit it, he can hit it to different directions, but there are many 
> other
> complex things like fielding and things, I don't want a game where I just
> press a number for the shot I want, I've always thought that sports games
> should really most of the time hardly ever be down to luck, and that, if 
> you
> time or do your moves exactly according to extreme split-second timing, 
> you
> should get results, because a sports game like cricket and football for 
> me,
> quite a bit of the time it can work a little bit on randomness, but rather
> also work on whether you're able to keep focus and concentrate, or, if you
> use some players and make them run too much, they get tired.
> Ari
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Jeremy Gilley
wow, i guess messages like this one, this dev will just take his site down 
and just state that he will no longer be programming any type of game 
period.
what happened to giving friendly suggestions or comments on how to improve 
something instead of stating how much crap someone put out as a game for our 
enjoyment?
if i was this guy, and i was getting the abuse from this list as this guy is 
getting, i would just trash the hole concept and just quit... i never seen 
how harsh people can get after someone puts a lot of time into making 
something for our pleasure.
if this was his first game, why not give cudos and just give suggestions on 
how to improve the next beta or something? or next version? why all the 
lambasting on this guy? why not give him a break eh?
- Original Message - 
From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price


> Damion is totally unreasonable.
> Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
> Why?why? why?
> Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
> It should be free
> It should be free
> It should be free.
> Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its free.
> It should be free
> It should be free
> It should be free
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Cory
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
> that darn thing should be free. Bet lite tech has spent more time
> programming there free games then you did. I'm sorry, but it's most likely
> true. Plus, you have had so many screw ups. Like the hole ready for 
> preorder
> and stuff. That broke. In my respectful openyan, it may come across the
> wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for. Sorry, 
> but
> that's how I feel.
>
> Rock,
>
> Cory
>
>
>
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[Audyssey] FW: Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol


-Original Message-
From: James Scholes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

I. dont. care! I was just giving my opinion!

--
From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:33 PM
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

> Hey, william never asked for hunter, pipe2, shades of doom, tank
> commander,
> super deek out to be free.
> A simple randomizing game should be free.
> He is not asking for everything on a  silver platter.
> Ace fire  is far from a fps or rpg game.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of James Scholes
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:06 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
> For god's sake! If you're not happy with the price, don't buy it! Quit
> crying to all of us how everything should be free, everything should be
> handed to us on a silver platter, totally free, just because we're blind.
> We
> can't see, so don't make us pay, is the general idea i'm getting from all
> your messages, either that or you're just saying "Screw AceFire, we don't
> like it". If this is the case, then take it off list, take it up with the
> developer of AceFire. Make your own audio game, put a price on it and see
> how many orders you get!
>
> -
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries Of The Aztecs FAQ.

2008-02-16 Thread Jeremy Gilley
hey, i have not voted, and i would like to, where can i go vote? i did not 
see any email on this list about voting.
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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:40 AM
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> Hi Dark,
> Hmmm... I have to think about that some. I am currently waiting on all
> the poll results to come in before I make a decision like that. Though,
> as of this mornings voting it seams there are definitely a small
> majority that are in favor of more side-scrollers for the audio games
> market.I like both styles so I haven't added my vote to the numbers yet.
> Anyway, if the side-scroller  style remains than it is safe to say we
> probably won't need the old Monte game any more.
>
> Dark wrote:
>> Hi tom.
>>
>> appologies for slightly repeating one already asked question, but while 
>> I'm
>> certainly looking forward to the new mysteries of the aztecs game, I do 
>> stil
>> rather like monti, and certainly haven't uninstalled it (especially if 
>> Mota
>> is going to change things so radically).
>>
>> while I understand the reasons for not offering Montizuma's revenge, 
>> would
>> it be possible to rename the old Monti beta 9 game (with accompanying
>> changing soundbite), to something like Angela in Montizuma's temple, and
>> have it as an extra for people who'd already bought Mota.
>>
>> I can just see in future, people wanting to play the old Monti levels, 
>> and
>> there being a lot of requests that you host them,  so I'm thinking 
>> about
>> forstalling that first.
>>
>> Appologies that this would mean yet another renaming,  I'm just
>> remembering all the people (including me), who request to play old games,
>> such as self destruct, Tarzan Jr and danger city.
>>
>> (I personally bought Tj back when Pb games was up and running, but I'm 
>> now
>> glad it's available for everyone).
>>
>> Beware the Grue!
>>
>> Dark.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
My sentiments exactly

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> If you don't like it, don't buy it, and stop whining about it.
> Regards,
>
>
> David Bouchard
>
>
> Executive Grand Communicator
>
>
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>
>> - Original Message -
>>From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Date sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:53:21 +0200
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>>Damion is totally unreasonable.
>>Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
>>Why?why? why?
>>Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
>>It should be free
>>It should be free
>>It should be free.
>>Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its
> free.
>>It should be free
>>It should be free
>>It should be free
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Behalf Of Cory
>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
>>To: Gamers Discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>>that darn thing should be free.  Bet lite tech has spent more
> time
>>programming there free games then you did.  I'm sorry, but it's
> most likely
>>true.  Plus, you have had so many screw ups.  Like the hole ready
> for preorder
>>and stuff.  That broke.  In my respectful openyan, it may come
> across the
>>wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for.
> Sorry, but
>>that's how I feel.
>
>>Rock,
>
>>Cory
>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries Of The Aztecs FAQ.

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your voat.

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> hey, i have not voted, and i would like to, where can i go vote? i did not
> see any email on this list about voting.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries Of The Aztecs FAQ.
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>
>> Hi Dark,
>> Hmmm... I have to think about that some. I am currently waiting on all
>> the poll results to come in before I make a decision like that. Though,
>> as of this mornings voting it seams there are definitely a small
>> majority that are in favor of more side-scrollers for the audio games
>> market.I like both styles so I haven't added my vote to the numbers yet.
>> Anyway, if the side-scroller  style remains than it is safe to say we
>> probably won't need the old Monte game any more.
>>
>> Dark wrote:
>>> Hi tom.
>>>
>>> appologies for slightly repeating one already asked question, but while
>>> I'm
>>> certainly looking forward to the new mysteries of the aztecs game, I do
>>> stil
>>> rather like monti, and certainly haven't uninstalled it (especially if
>>> Mota
>>> is going to change things so radically).
>>>
>>> while I understand the reasons for not offering Montizuma's revenge,
>>> would
>>> it be possible to rename the old Monti beta 9 game (with accompanying
>>> changing soundbite), to something like Angela in Montizuma's temple, and
>>> have it as an extra for people who'd already bought Mota.
>>>
>>> I can just see in future, people wanting to play the old Monti levels,
>>> and
>>> there being a lot of requests that you host them,  so I'm thinking
>>> about
>>> forstalling that first.
>>>
>>> Appologies that this would mean yet another renaming,  I'm just
>>> remembering all the people (including me), who request to play old 
>>> games,
>>> such as self destruct, Tarzan Jr and danger city.
>>>
>>> (I personally bought Tj back when Pb games was up and running, but I'm
>>> now
>>> glad it's available for everyone).
>>>
>>> Beware the Grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
I do get your point about the monopoly game Nicol, but a monopoly game isn't
as hard as ace fire, it make not seem that way, but I can guarantee it.
ACEFire uses multi-player support, which is difficult, and like I said, all
those libraries and sounds, cost money, and Jims monopoly, which is still
very good, does not necessarily have all of those..you still of course have
all of your opinions, and this is mine.

Thank You
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Damien Sadler
Go do some of your own randomising then if you think that's all it is!


- Original Message - 
From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price


> Ace! Fire!'s price!is! totally! Totally ridiculous!
> Why! on!  Earth!~ do! We! Have! To! Pay! For! A! little! Game! Only !
> consisting!of
> ! randomizing!
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Damien Sadler
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:27 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
> OK. Let's get one thing straight here. Forget about the prices for a sec,
> forget even Acefire. Let's talk X-Sight in general.
> Right. What about Acefire preorders? Everybody messes up! I was being
> bombarded with comments, advice and suggestions. Confusions is one of the
> worst things to have to deal with as a beginner developer. As for
> LightTech's free games, that's their decision to make it free, just like
> it's my decision to charge for Acefire.
> If you saw just how much testing this thing has been through, how much 
> money
> I've spent on it, how stressed out I got, not only from this but from all
> other activity in my life, people nagging and pressurising me not just for
> new features, this and that, but for personal issues as well, if I wasn't 
> on
> such a limited budget, if this didn't have to come out of my own money, 
> for
> your information, I could be thrown out of college because of my outside
> activities. Not that it probably matters to you all who buy and play or 
> use,
> but to a developer, it's a lot of hard work. That code is 667kb in size,
> 21512 lines, and in my honest opinion I feel that your message was rather
> rude on the subject of mistakes, messups and high prices.
> I'm sorry Cory, but I think you need to sit down and try and develop a 
> game
> or piece of software and tell me then what it feels like as a first-timer.
> All I can say is, for what Acefire is right now, and for what Dectalk
> Scripter and Talking Timepiece will be in the future, I've bent over
> backwards to add features that people are constantly requesting, and I 
> said
> that there's more to come in 2.0. I've got about forty different projects
> I'm attempting to work on at once. When I'm working on Acefire, I've got
> somebody contacting me about Danger City. When I work on Chopper 
> Challenge,
> I get someone contact me about Acefire. When I finally get to work on 
> Danger
> City, someone else will come along and ask about Dectalk Scripter.
> No program is ever fully completed as we all know. Programs and games are
> constantly getting updated, and I've developed for free for so long now,
> buying custom made libraries, off-the-shelf libraries, sounds, music, and 
> am
> sick of getting nothing back for it. That's how devs get broke. I can't 
> even
> live, because I'm constantly working for X-Sight. I'm constantly roaming 
> the
> country staying at friend's house and eating their food.
> I won't mention any names, but there's three people in particular who
> encouraged me to sell this game, one of them himself being a developer. 
> Now
> I get a price/game release rebellion. I was told and advised to knock the
> price down. I knocked the price down, making the pay very low for me.
> If you'd rather I finished it there, developed for myself instead, I could
> easily flush the whole lot down the toilet, take down the whole site, and
> easily spend as much money as I've spent on X-Sight over the past two 
> years
> on a decent Yamaha Tyros II keyboard while still being able to buy my own
> food and arrange to move over to the states to live and spend time with my
> girlfriend.
> I'm sorry if this message appears harsh, but I feel you ought to know the
> long and short of it.
> Thanks.
> Regards,
> Damien
>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
Yeah. Just listen to that music it's unbelievable! You really have to think 
things over Nicol before 
you post. Try getting a vb editor, some vb libraries, and the actual software; 
make 
software, spend hours debugging, testing, etc. 

Then spend hundreds of dollars on sounds and music. Plus the registration 
library set 
Damien around 30 bucks.

So just try that. Are your brains coming out your ears yet?

If you do not like it, do not buy it. Simple as that.



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:16:55 -0500, Ryan Smith wrote:


>Hi,
>I do get your point about the monopoly game Nicol, but a monopoly game 
>isn't
>as hard as ace fire, it make not seem that way, but I can guarantee it.
>ACEFire uses multi-player support, which is difficult, and like I said, 
>all
>those libraries and sounds, cost money, and Jims monopoly, which is 
>still
>very good, does not necessarily have all of those..you still of course 
>have
>all of your opinions, and this is mine.
>
>Thank You
>-Ryan
>Head of rsg
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Re: [Audyssey] Please stop the acefire wranting!

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
Cmmon guys, keep the piece...

And I agree with you all. Stop complaining. Damien spent a lot of time on this, 
I was a 
beta tester person thingy, and it's really cool. I bet you haven't tried it 
yet, you see 
20 dollars, and you just are like no, no, I won't even look at it because it's 
too much. 
Then, just don't buy the thing.



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:22:17 -0500, Ryan Smith wrote:


>Hi,
>I couldn't agree with you more. Just stop the complaining and be happy 
>there
>is audio games. If you don't like it,  just please keep it to yourself,
>unless you have a suggestion of what to add. It takes a long time to 
>code
>these things, I've said this many times, unless you can make something
>better, then you shouldn't be ranting... thats all I have to say.. use 
>some
>respect please...
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
Here here, bro



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:29:42 -0500, Ryan Smith wrote:


>Hi,
>Have some decency people! All those features COST MONEY, the MUSIC COSTS
>MONEY, you are entitled to your opinion, but I am asking to keep it to
>yourself, but I can't take any action so... try writing over 20 thousand
>lines of code, paying loads of money for libraries, and everything else, 
>it
>costs, alot. No ones forcing you to buy it, so don't. If you can't do
>something much better, you are in no position to complain, I am entitled 
>to
>my opinion like everyone else.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] FW: Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Damien Sadler
Right William. So criticise constructively and stop abusing me and my time 
and money.
Regards,
Damien




- Original Message - 
From: "william lomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] FW: Acefire price


> hi that's true
> i pay for games with quality not bang yous hot me, bang oh dear you
> shot me oh dear now what, erm, that's it, lol
> i  pay for quality and replay value not some music and bang yous hot
> me bang bang now what who kills who first it crap i'm sorry wake up
>
> On 16 Feb 2008, at 15:48, nicol wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: James Scholes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:39 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>
>> I. dont. care! I was just giving my opinion!
>>
>> --
>> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:33 PM
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>
>>> Hey, william never asked for hunter, pipe2, shades of doom, tank
>>> commander,
>>> super deek out to be free.
>>> A simple randomizing game should be free.
>>> He is not asking for everything on a  silver platter.
>>> Ace fire  is far from a fps or rpg game.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers-
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Behalf Of James Scholes
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:06 PM
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>>
>>> For god's sake! If you're not happy with the price, don't buy it!
>>> Quit
>>> crying to all of us how everything should be free, everything
>>> should be
>>> handed to us on a silver platter, totally free, just because we're
>>> blind.
>>> We
>>> can't see, so don't make us pay, is the general idea i'm getting
>>> from all
>>> your messages, either that or you're just saying "Screw AceFire, we
>>> don't
>>> like it". If this is the case, then take it off list, take it up
>>> with the
>>> developer of AceFire. Make your own audio game, put a price on it
>>> and see
>>> how many orders you get!
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] FW: Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread william lomas
hi that's true
i pay for games with quality not bang yous hot me, bang oh dear you  
shot me oh dear now what, erm, that's it, lol
i  pay for quality and replay value not some music and bang yous hot  
me bang bang now what who kills who first it crap i'm sorry wake up

On 16 Feb 2008, at 15:48, nicol wrote:

>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Scholes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
> I. dont. care! I was just giving my opinion!
>
> --
> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:33 PM
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>> Hey, william never asked for hunter, pipe2, shades of doom, tank
>> commander,
>> super deek out to be free.
>> A simple randomizing game should be free.
>> He is not asking for everything on a  silver platter.
>> Ace fire  is far from a fps or rpg game.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers- 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Behalf Of James Scholes
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:06 PM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>
>> For god's sake! If you're not happy with the price, don't buy it!  
>> Quit
>> crying to all of us how everything should be free, everything  
>> should be
>> handed to us on a silver platter, totally free, just because we're  
>> blind.
>> We
>> can't see, so don't make us pay, is the general idea i'm getting  
>> from all
>> your messages, either that or you're just saying "Screw AceFire, we  
>> don't
>> like it". If this is the case, then take it off list, take it up  
>> with the
>> developer of AceFire. Make your own audio game, put a price on it  
>> and see
>> how many orders you get!
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Karl
Hi,
Have you played the game ona nything other than Coward? I garee, on 
Coward there isn't much strategy. Howeve ,ron anythin ghigher, the game 
makes you have to decide when to use health restores, wh neto use the 
bombs or super weapon, how t ourn the bonus ruond, etc. And 
,Impossible, unlike some games, actualyl lives u pto its name in this oen.
Karl
Original message:
> Hey, william never asked for hunter, pipe2, shades of doom, tank commander,
> super deek out to be free.
> A simple randomizing game should be free.
> He is not asking for everything on a  silver platter.
> Ace fire  is far from a fps or rpg game.

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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

> For god's sake! If you're not happy with the price, don't buy it! Quit
> crying to all of us how everything should be free, everything should be
> handed to us on a silver platter, totally free, just because we're blind. We
> can't see, so don't make us pay, is the general idea i'm getting from all
> your messages, either that or you're just saying "Screw AceFire, we don't
> like it". If this is the case, then take it off list, take it up with the
> developer of AceFire. Make your own audio game, put a price on it and see
> how many orders you get!

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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
Exactly. Have fun trying and trying to get the syntax correct. It's not just 
slapping a 
bunch of commands together, books I read define this as programming:
A list of commands to get a computer to do something

This is not correct. Things have to be placed in a specific order so it all 
makes sense. 
And an error we get all the time in vb 6: end without if or whatever. Things 
have to be typed 
exactly, if you forget, for example to put
end if
at the end of a check then... This is off topic, all I mean is, that it's 
difficult, it's 
Mr. Sadler's first game, so, cut him some slack guys!



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:22:29 -, Damien Sadler wrote:


>Go do some of your own randomising then if you think that's all it is!
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>
>>Ace! Fire!'s price!is! totally! Totally ridiculous!
>>Why! on!  Earth!~ do! We! Have! To! Pay! For! A! little! Game! Only !
>>consisting!of
>>! randomizing!
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Behalf Of Damien Sadler
>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:27 AM
>>To: Gamers Discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>>
>>OK. Let's get one thing straight here. Forget about the prices for a 
>>sec,
>>forget even Acefire. Let's talk X-Sight in general.
>>Right. What about Acefire preorders? Everybody messes up! I was being
>>bombarded with comments, advice and suggestions. Confusions is one of 
>>the
>>worst things to have to deal with as a beginner developer. As for
>>LightTech's free games, that's their decision to make it free, just like
>>it's my decision to charge for Acefire.
>>If you saw just how much testing this thing has been through, how much 
>>money
>>I've spent on it, how stressed out I got, not only from this but from 
>>all
>>other activity in my life, people nagging and pressurising me not just 
>>for
>>new features, this and that, but for personal issues as well, if I 
>>wasn't 
>>on
>>such a limited budget, if this didn't have to come out of my own money, 
>>for
>>your information, I could be thrown out of college because of my outside
>>activities. Not that it probably matters to you all who buy and play or 
>>use,
>>but to a developer, it's a lot of hard work. That code is 667kb in size,
>>21512 lines, and in my honest opinion I feel that your message was 
>>rather
>>rude on the subject of mistakes, messups and high prices.
>>I'm sorry Cory, but I think you need to sit down and try and develop a 
>>game
>>or piece of software and tell me then what it feels like as a 
>>first-timer.
>>All I can say is, for what Acefire is right now, and for what Dectalk
>>Scripter and Talking Timepiece will be in the future, I've bent over
>>backwards to add features that people are constantly requesting, and I 
>>said
>>that there's more to come in 2.0. I've got about forty different 
>>projects
>>I'm attempting to work on at once. When I'm working on Acefire, I've got
>>somebody contacting me about Danger City. When I work on Chopper 
>>Challenge,
>>I get someone contact me about Acefire. When I finally get to work on 
>>Danger
>>City, someone else will come along and ask about Dectalk Scripter.
>>No program is ever fully completed as we all know. Programs and games 
>>are
>>constantly getting updated, and I've developed for free for so long now,
>>buying custom made libraries, off-the-shelf libraries, sounds, music, 
>>and 
>>am
>>sick of getting nothing back for it. That's how devs get broke. I can't 
>>even
>>live, because I'm constantly working for X-Sight. I'm constantly roaming 
>>
>>the
>>country staying at friend's house and eating their food.
>>I won't mention any names, but there's three people in particular who
>>encouraged me to sell this game, one of them himself being a developer. 
>>Now
>>I get a price/game release rebellion. I was told and advised to knock 
>>the
>>price down. I knocked the price down, making the pay very low for me.
>>If you'd rather I finished it there, developed for myself instead, I 
>>could
>>easily flush the whole lot down the toilet, take down the whole site, 
>>and
>>easily spend as much money as I've spent on X-Sight over the past two 
>>years
>>on a decent Yamaha Tyros II keyboard while still being able to buy my 
>>own
>>food and arrange to move over to the states to live and spend time with 
>>my
>>girlfriend.
>>I'm sorry if this message appears harsh, but I feel you ought to know 
>>the
>>long and short of it.
>>Thanks.
>>Regards,
>>Damien
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] FW: Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
Well said.
Its not worth the money at all!
Why take out 20 dollars for random dice  throwing.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] FW: Acefire price

hi that's true
i pay for games with quality not bang yous hot me, bang oh dear you
shot me oh dear now what, erm, that's it, lol
i  pay for quality and replay value not some music and bang yous hot
me bang bang now what who kills who first it crap i'm sorry wake up

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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread Demetry
Hi Thomas and all,

where I cann voting with?
And, I just downloaded the "new" game. But, after installing the game 
could not starting. It comes an error message although I already 
installed the latest DirectX Version 9.0C and through the Microsoft 
Visual Studio 2008 Express Editions It was the current version of 3.5 
installed.
Oh, and I am using that under Windows XP with Service pack 2 and with 
all current updates.
The MOTA will every times closed directly.

Demetry


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries Of The Aztecs FAQ.

2008-02-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,
Hmmm... I have to think about that some. I am currently waiting on all 
the poll results to come in before I make a decision like that. Though, 
as of this mornings voting it seams there are definitely a small 
majority that are in favor of more side-scrollers for the audio games 
market.I like both styles so I haven't added my vote to the numbers yet.
Anyway, if the side-scroller  style remains than it is safe to say we 
probably won't need the old Monte game any more.

Dark wrote:
> Hi tom.
>
> appologies for slightly repeating one already asked question, but while I'm 
> certainly looking forward to the new mysteries of the aztecs game, I do stil 
> rather like monti, and certainly haven't uninstalled it (especially if Mota 
> is going to change things so radically).
>
> while I understand the reasons for not offering Montizuma's revenge, would 
> it be possible to rename the old Monti beta 9 game (with accompanying 
> changing soundbite), to something like Angela in Montizuma's temple, and 
> have it as an extra for people who'd already bought Mota.
>
> I can just see in future, people wanting to play the old Monti levels, and 
> there being a lot of requests that you host them,  so I'm thinking about 
> forstalling that first.
>
> Appologies that this would mean yet another renaming,  I'm just 
> remembering all the people (including me), who request to play old games, 
> such as self destruct, Tarzan Jr and danger city.
>
> (I personally bought Tj back when Pb games was up and running, but I'm now 
> glad it's available for everyone).
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark. 
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
We get the point, you want it to be free.

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> Damion is totally unreasonable.
> Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
> Why?why? why?
> Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
> It should be free
> It should be free
> It should be free.
> Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its free.
> It should be free
> It should be free
> It should be free
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Cory
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
> that darn thing should be free. Bet lite tech has spent more time
> programming there free games then you did. I'm sorry, but it's most likely
> true. Plus, you have had so many screw ups. Like the hole ready for 
> preorder
> and stuff. That broke. In my respectful openyan, it may come across the
> wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for. Sorry, 
> but
> that's how I feel.
>
> Rock,
>
> Cory
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread David
If you don't like it, don't buy it, and stop whining about it.
Regards,


David Bouchard


Executive Grand Communicator


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> - Original Message -
>From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" Date sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:53:21 +0200
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

>Damion is totally unreasonable.
>Why do we have to pay for ace fire?
>Why?why? why?
>Ace fire doesn't have that much features.
>It should be free
>It should be free
>It should be free.
>Jim's monopoly game have more randomizing than ace fire  and its 
free.
>It should be free
>It should be free
>It should be free

>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 AM
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>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

>that darn thing should be free.  Bet lite tech has spent more 
time
>programming there free games then you did.  I'm sorry, but it's 
most likely
>true.  Plus, you have had so many screw ups.  Like the hole ready 
for preorder
>and stuff.  That broke.  In my respectful openyan, it may come 
across the
>wrong way, wich I know it is, but it's just not worth paying for.  
Sorry, but
>that's how I feel.

>Rock,

>Cory



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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
Can I voat for the same thing again to take it up to 10 for the side 
scroler? Grins.

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> Hello gamers,
> I just wanted to drop a little note to let everyone know what the
> current status of the Mysteries Of The Aztecs poll results are. So far
> it looks like a pretty close race, but the side-scroller style seams to
> be leading the voting. Here is the results as of 10:30 AM Feb. 16.
>
> 3D FPS: 7
> 2D Side-Scroller: 9
>
> Cheers.
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Hey,
I am not trying to insult, or harm anyone in anyway by any of my messages
(which weren't but may be offensive), I'm sorry if you thought them being
offensive. I'm just saying what I think, like everyone else, so that's it...

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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
I really think it should be a side scroller, side scrollers are what we have 
few of.



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:32:52 -0500, Thomas Ward wrote:


>Hello gamers,
>I just wanted to drop a little note to let everyone know what the 
>current status of the Mysteries Of The Aztecs poll results are. So far 
>it looks like a pretty close race, but the side-scroller style seams to 
>be leading the voting. Here is the results as of 10:30 AM Feb. 16.
>
>3D FPS: 7
>2D Side-Scroller: 9
>
>Cheers.
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
The bottom line is: jim's monopoly game  has much  more randomizing.
I played numerous games and its interesting how many times I beat the
computer.
And its also interesting how many times me or the computer land on free
parking.
Its  a lot more randomizing than ace fire and he doesn't charge for it.
Or what do you say, jim?
Or take the last crusade. It also has a lot more randomizing than ace fire.
And yet its free.
If it was a brilliant fps game being released yes then its unreasonable to
complain about its price, but this game is only turn based dice throwing
against the computer, that's all it is.
This! Is! A! total! Rip!off!
Daylight!robbery!
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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

wow, i guess messages like this one, this dev will just take his site down
and just state that he will no longer be programming any type of game
period.
what happened to giving friendly suggestions or comments on how to improve
something instead of stating how much crap someone put out as a game for our
enjoyment?
if i was this guy, and i was getting the abuse from this list as this guy is
getting, i would just trash the hole concept and just quit... i never seen
how harsh people can get after someone puts a lot of time into making
something for our pleasure.
if this was his first game, why not give cudos and just give suggestions on
how to improve the next beta or something? or next version? why all the
lambasting on this guy? why not give him a break eh?
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread william lomas
but i agree let's drop it if we want the game, we buy it if we don't,  
we don't
keeps everyone happy
end of as far as i am concerned it is one game iw on't buy. think  
about it too, nicole
if we have played it and we don't want it that's up to us and we  
should jsut move on but wish x sight good luck in it. even if it were  
free would you and others continue to play it?

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> Hey,
> I am not trying to insult, or harm anyone in anyway by any of my  
> messages
> (which weren't but may be offensive), I'm sorry if you thought them  
> being
> offensive. I'm just saying what I think, like everyone else, so  
> that's it...
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[Audyssey] Please stop the acefire wranting!

2008-02-16 Thread Dark
Hi people. 

As I am not a moderater or anything similar, it is probably not my place to 
say, but I am getting slightly tired of reading E-mails going ballistic over 
acefire. 

Legitimately cryticising or defending the game in a calm and reasonable manner 
is fine (it's what this list is for), but these constant "Acefire is an awful 
game" or E-mails are taking up valuable list time, and getting everyone 
immotional and upset. 

Whatever we think of any game, will people please remember that someone has 
spent time writing thousands of lines of code, collecting sfx etc to make it 
happen. As I said, it's quite reasonable to then take a good look at that game, 
and recommend improvements or suggestions, but just sending long wrants about 
it's awfullness does nobody any good. 

The same with the price issue. Remember that if this were a mainstream game 
you'd never have chance to even speak to the devs about the price, - in 
fact a good percentage of the price would be going to the retailer who sold the 
game anyway. 

If you find the price unreasonable,  explain your reasons calmly,  bbut 
also remember that it is up to damien to set the price,  and up to you to 
buy or not buy the game as you see fit.

can we please! have a litle maturity here! 

Beware the Grue! 

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Damien Sadler
Fine! Fine! I'm getting sick of this now! One more complaint like that, the 
whole site is going down. I take suggestions, constructive criticism, and 
feedback that I can use. Not abuse, thousands of exclamation marks from 
Nikole, and rudeness.
Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
Regards,
Damien



- Original Message - 
From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jeremy Gilley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" 

Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price


> The bottom line is: jim's monopoly game  has much  more randomizing.
> I played numerous games and its interesting how many times I beat the
> computer.
> And its also interesting how many times me or the computer land on free
> parking.
> Its  a lot more randomizing than ace fire and he doesn't charge for it.
> Or what do you say, jim?
> Or take the last crusade. It also has a lot more randomizing than ace 
> fire.
> And yet its free.
> If it was a brilliant fps game being released yes then its unreasonable to
> complain about its price, but this game is only turn based dice throwing
> against the computer, that's all it is.
> This! Is! A! total! Rip!off!
> Daylight!robbery!
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:09 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
> wow, i guess messages like this one, this dev will just take his site down
> and just state that he will no longer be programming any type of game
> period.
> what happened to giving friendly suggestions or comments on how to improve
> something instead of stating how much crap someone put out as a game for 
> our
> enjoyment?
> if i was this guy, and i was getting the abuse from this list as this guy 
> is
> getting, i would just trash the hole concept and just quit... i never seen
> how harsh people can get after someone puts a lot of time into making
> something for our pleasure.
> if this was his first game, why not give cudos and just give suggestions 
> on
> how to improve the next beta or something? or next version? why all the
> lambasting on this guy? why not give him a break eh?
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
If this complaining doesnt stop, I'm leaving! I had my status to mail delivery 
off for a 
while, thinking it'd get better. But no? There's still argu ing on this list, 
still tamper 
tantrums, still the crap from 7 months ago.




On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:52:51 -0600, David wrote:


>You have said that a million times, and people are getting sick 
>of it.  It's only a game, after all, and I don't know if it's 
>worth the $20, but it sounds like it's worth at least some money.  
>Please, stop throwing a temper tantrum like a 4-year-old!
>Regards,
>
>
>David Bouchard
>
>
>Executive Grand Communicator
>
>
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>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Date sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:43:12 +0200
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>>U!
>>U!
>>Bang , bang, bang
>>Bang, bang, bang
>>My turn
>>Your turn
>>My turn
>>Your turn
>>Bang
>>Bang
>>Bang
>>Why! Pay! 20! Dollars! For! Ace fire!
>>Why!why! why!
>>Oh! No! oh! No!
>>I want it for free.  I want it for free.  I want to throw the 
>dice for free.
>>Give it for free.
>>Please please please.
>>Why pay 20 dollars for random dice throwing.
>>I want it for free.
>>It totally ridiculous to spent 20 dollars on a random dice game.
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Behalf Of Damien Sadler
>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:31 PM
>>To: Gamers Discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>>Fine! Fine! I'm getting sick of this now! One more complaint like 
>that, the
>>whole site is going down.  I take suggestions, constructive 
>criticism, and
>>feedback that I can use.  Not abuse, thousands of exclamation 
>marks from
>>Nikole, and rudeness.
>>Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
>>Regards,
>>Damien
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
Well it should have some kind of chief or king.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of James Scholes
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:54 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

urm, england doesn't have a president lol

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From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:47 PM
To: "gamers" 
Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
> Now you have a choice.
> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
> right now and complain  about you.
> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread David
You are out of your mind.  The leaders of the world could care 
less about a little dice game.  I don't think Bush would even 
give you the slightest attention.  It's a threat that you will 
never be able to act on, and Damien, I urge you not to listen to 
him.  Having said that, it may be a good idea to shut up about 
this, because I know Thomas or one of the other moderators will 
not be pleased as to how out-of-control this discussion has 
become.
Regards,


David Bouchard


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> - Original Message -
>From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "gamers" Date sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:47:38 +0200
>Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

>Ok DAMI5, I had enough of this.
>I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for 
free.
>Now you have a choice.
>Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
>Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to 
him.
>I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is 
to rob
>someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   
throwing.
>I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding.  I'M going to 
phone him
>right now and complain  about you.
>And then its up to him to phone the president of England.


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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread David
You have said that a million times, and people are getting sick 
of it.  It's only a game, after all, and I don't know if it's 
worth the $20, but it sounds like it's worth at least some money.  
Please, stop throwing a temper tantrum like a 4-year-old!
Regards,


David Bouchard


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Watonala Lodge, Order of the Arrow

> - Original Message -
>From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" Date sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:43:12 +0200
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

>U!
>U!
>Bang , bang, bang
>Bang, bang, bang
>My turn
>Your turn
>My turn
>Your turn
>Bang
>Bang
>Bang
>Why! Pay! 20! Dollars! For! Ace fire!
>Why!why! why!
>Oh! No! oh! No!
>I want it for free.  I want it for free.  I want to throw the 
dice for free.
> Give it for free.
>Please please please.
>Why pay 20 dollars for random dice throwing.
>I want it for free.
>It totally ridiculous to spent 20 dollars on a random dice game.
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Behalf Of Damien Sadler
>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:31 PM
>To: Gamers Discussion list
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

>Fine! Fine! I'm getting sick of this now! One more complaint like 
that, the
>whole site is going down.  I take suggestions, constructive 
criticism, and
>feedback that I can use.  Not abuse, thousands of exclamation 
marks from
>Nikole, and rudeness.
>Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
>Regards,
>Damien



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[Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
Ok damion, I had enough of this.
I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
Now you have a choice.
Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
right now and complain  about you.
And then its up to him to phone the president of England.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries Of The Aztecs FAQ.

2008-02-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Geremy,
The poll question is should Mysteries of the Aztecs be a side-scroller 
or FPS style game. You can cast your vote by sending an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jeremy Gilley wrote:
> hey, i have not voted, and i would like to, where can i go vote? i did not 
> see any email on this list about voting.
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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread william lomas
hi i guess though that fps should be reserved for tombraider, now i  
come to think about it

On 16 Feb 2008, at 17:10, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hi,
>  No, you may not. However, I can say that as of the last poll
> check it is now 11 to 7 Side-Scroller.
>
> James Scholes wrote:
>> Can I voat for the same thing again to take it up to 10 for the side
>> scroler? Grins.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Message Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread chou.clement
Agreed. Let's just not talk about this... it's not necessary.
- Original Message - 
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Message Acefire price


> Well said, Thomas!
>
> --
> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:07 PM
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Message Acefire price
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I've read most of the messages in this topic, and I feel many of you
>> could have worded things differently, could have been a little more
>> constructive, and bottom line your complaints should go specificly to
>> the company or person you have the complaint with.
>> Yes I know many of you are unhappy about the price of Acefire, but do
>> remember it is Damiens game. As its developer, owner, and creator he
>> reserves the right to decide how much he is going to charge for his
>> game. If you don't like the price you can suggest he lower it, if you
>> ask nicely, but complaining and calling the game crap isn't going to
>> earn anyones respect If you don't think the game is worth the money
>> simply choose not to purchase the game.
>> Before this topic blows up into a full blown argument or flame war I
>> feel I must ask all of you to either calm down, be more  constructive
>> about your comments, or close the topic.
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Chrissy
hi all
what is all this about?
somebody developes a game and people demand it'd be free? how ridiculous. i 
am all for getting something freeand not having to pay but how can one start 
telling others what they are supposed to do with their owngames? there is 
still like 50 mails whodeal with what one should or shouldn't charge. 
kindergarden stuff.

if you do not think it is worth it  then do not purchase just like one does 
with any item out on the market.
i don't understand what the fuss is all about. in the meantime stick to the 
free games as i have to do cause i am on a tight budge and have to choose 
wisely what to invest in.
tarzan junior comes to mind, abandonware and free for all now in the full 
version. but do not tell others what to do with their own merchandise.

chrissy
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Message Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
Well said, Thomas!

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From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:07 PM
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Message Acefire price

> Hi everyone,
> I've read most of the messages in this topic, and I feel many of you
> could have worded things differently, could have been a little more
> constructive, and bottom line your complaints should go specificly to
> the company or person you have the complaint with.
> Yes I know many of you are unhappy about the price of Acefire, but do
> remember it is Damiens game. As its developer, owner, and creator he
> reserves the right to decide how much he is going to charge for his
> game. If you don't like the price you can suggest he lower it, if you
> ask nicely, but complaining and calling the game crap isn't going to
> earn anyones respect If you don't think the game is worth the money
> simply choose not to purchase the game.
> Before this topic blows up into a full blown argument or flame war I
> feel I must ask all of you to either calm down, be more  constructive
> about your comments, or close the topic.
> Thanks.
>
>
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[Audyssey] Moderator Message Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi everyone,
I've read most of the messages in this topic, and I feel many of you 
could have worded things differently, could have been a little more 
constructive, and bottom line your complaints should go specificly to 
the company or person you have the complaint with.
Yes I know many of you are unhappy about the price of Acefire, but do 
remember it is Damiens game. As its developer, owner, and creator he 
reserves the right to decide how much he is going to charge for his 
game. If you don't like the price you can suggest he lower it, if you 
ask nicely, but complaining and calling the game crap isn't going to 
earn anyones respect If you don't think the game is worth the money 
simply choose not to purchase the game.
Before this topic blows up into a full blown argument or flame war I 
feel I must ask all of you to either calm down, be more  constructive 
about your comments, or close the topic.
Thanks.


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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
You're crazy, nicol. Just because you do not want to pay, doesnt mean anything.

And he's not robbing anyone. He's not. You have a choice. Either stop 
complaining, or I'm out 
uh here!



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:47:38 +0200, nicol wrote:


>Ok damion, I had enough of this.
>I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
>Now you have a choice.
>Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
>Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
>I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
>someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
>I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
>right now and complain  about you.
>And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
If this continues, I'll unsubscribe from this mailing list and just go to 
audiogames net forum! 
Guys, lighten up! Nicol, if you don't want to pay for it, you can probably do 
without it. 
The fact that you want it for free symbolizes you just do not wanna pay for it, 
but you want it 
anyway. SHEESH!



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:43:12 +0200, nicol wrote:


>U!
>U!
>Bang , bang, bang
>Bang, bang, bang
>My turn
>Your turn
>My turn
>Your turn
>Bang
>Bang
>Bang
>Why! Pay! 20! Dollars! For! Ace fire!
>Why!why! why!
>Oh! No! oh! No!
>I want it for free. I want it for free. I want to throw the dice for 
>free.
>Give it for free.
>Please please please.
>Why pay 20 dollars for random dice throwing.
>I want it for free.
>It totally ridiculous to spent 20 dollars on a random dice game.
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Behalf Of Damien Sadler
>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:31 PM
>To: Gamers Discussion list
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>Fine! Fine! I'm getting sick of this now! One more complaint like that, 
>the
>whole site is going down. I take suggestions, constructive criticism, 
>and
>feedback that I can use. Not abuse, thousands of exclamation marks from
>Nikole, and rudeness.
>Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
>Regards,
>Damien
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
haha that's funny, RNC caring about their student's life styles outside of 
their college life, never gonna happen!

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> I have a good mind and contact the college where you study and also tell
> them  how ridiculous it is to sell such a little game for 20 dollars.
> --
> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:47 PM
> To: "gamers" 
> Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price
>
>> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
>> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
>> Now you have a choice.
>> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
>> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
>> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
>> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
>> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
>> right now and complain  about you.
>> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Chrissy
What are you? three?
chrissy

>> - Original Message -
>>From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Date sent: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:43:12 +0200
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>>U!
>>U!
>>Bang , bang, bang
>>Bang, bang, bang
>>My turn
>>Your turn
>>My turn
>>Your turn
>>Bang
>>Bang
>>Bang
>>Why! Pay! 20! Dollars! For! Ace fire!
>>Why!why! why!
>>Oh! No! oh! No!
>>I want it for free.  I want it for free.  I want to throw the
> dice for free.
>> Give it for free.
>>Please please please.
>>Why pay 20 dollars for random dice throwing.
>>I want it for free.
>>It totally ridiculous to spent 20 dollars on a random dice game.
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Behalf Of Damien Sadler
>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:31 PM
>>To: Gamers Discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price
>
>>Fine! Fine! I'm getting sick of this now! One more complaint like
> that, the
>>whole site is going down.  I take suggestions, constructive
> criticism, and
>>feedback that I can use.  Not abuse, thousands of exclamation
> marks from
>>Nikole, and rudeness.
>>Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
>>Regards,
>>Damien
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
 No, you may not. However, I can say that as of the last poll 
check it is now 11 to 7 Side-Scroller.

James Scholes wrote:
> Can I voat for the same thing again to take it up to 10 for the side 
> scroler? Grins.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread chou.clement
Can we just declare this topic closed? A man once said in a movie, and I 
quote, "Sir, I think you should calm down..."
- Original Message - 
From: "James Scholes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price


> You're crazy!
>
> --
> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:58 PM
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price
>
>> I have a good mind and contact the college where you study and also tell
>> them  how ridiculous it is to sell such a little game for 20 dollars.
>> --
>> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:47 PM
>> To: "gamers" 
>> Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price
>>
>>> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
>>> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
>>> Now you have a choice.
>>> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
>>> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
>>> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
>>> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
>>> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
>>> right now and complain  about you.
>>> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
me too, there's too many games like shades of doom that just get borring in 
the end because all your doing is walking and turning corners. Much prefer 
side scrolers.

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> I really think it should be a side scroller, side scrollers are what we 
> have few of.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:32:52 -0500, Thomas Ward wrote:
>
>
>>Hello gamers,
>>I just wanted to drop a little note to let everyone know what the
>>current status of the Mysteries Of The Aztecs poll results are. So far
>>it looks like a pretty close race, but the side-scroller style seams to
>>be leading the voting. Here is the results as of 10:30 AM Feb. 16.
>>
>>3D FPS: 7
>>2D Side-Scroller: 9
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
U!
U!
Bang , bang, bang
Bang, bang, bang
My turn
Your turn
My turn
Your turn
Bang
Bang
Bang
Why! Pay! 20! Dollars! For! Ace fire!
Why!why! why!
Oh! No! oh! No!
I want it for free. I want it for free. I want to throw the dice for free.
 Give it for free.
Please please please.
Why pay 20 dollars for random dice throwing.
I want it for free.
It totally ridiculous to spent 20 dollars on a random dice game.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Damien Sadler
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:31 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

Fine! Fine! I'm getting sick of this now! One more complaint like that, the
whole site is going down. I take suggestions, constructive criticism, and
feedback that I can use. Not abuse, thousands of exclamation marks from
Nikole, and rudeness.
Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
Regards,
Damien



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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
do you have .net framework 3.0?

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> Hi Thomas and all,
>
> where I cann voting with?
> And, I just downloaded the "new" game. But, after installing the game
> could not starting. It comes an error message although I already
> installed the latest DirectX Version 9.0C and through the Microsoft
> Visual Studio 2008 Express Editions It was the current version of 3.5
> installed.
> Oh, and I am using that under Windows XP with Service pack 2 and with
> all current updates.
> The MOTA will every times closed directly.
>
> Demetry
>
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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread Demetry
James Scholes wrote:
> do you have .net framework 3.0?
>   

Yes. It's installed 2.0, 3.0 SP1 and 3.5

Demetry


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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
I have a good mind and contact the college where you study and also tell
them  how ridiculous it is to sell such a little game for 20 dollars.
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From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:47 PM
To: "gamers" 
Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
> Now you have a choice.
> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
> right now and complain  about you.
> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Nicol Tom warned to keep it down in reply to ace fire, or at least implied
it to my interpretation. I keep saying the same thing over and over and I
know you heard it, so I am done with this kind of talk right now.
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Re: [Audyssey] ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread Jeremy Gilley
instead of us leaving, why is this guy still allowed to rant on this list? 
how come he is not being monitored?
I know that I am not a moniter, but still, this dudes rantings are unjust 
and really childlike.
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> Please give your 2 cents view, robjoy.
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
Not true there bro, it was originally 35 dollars, so he lowered it to 25. Now 
stop being 
ungreatful, and... Ok that was rude. I take that back. Ok I'm done posting on 
this 
topic. If I get another post in this thread I'm deleting it.


On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:43:55 -0500, Ryan Smith wrote:


>Nicol,
>If you feel 20 is too much, than just don't buy it, Damien will not be
>taking anything down, the price stands, thats that. Honestly, I think 20
>bucks is a low price considering all the work Damien put into this. 
>Please
>stop. Posting Final Warnings is making YOU the one who is harrasing. 
>Let's
>move on Nicol...it's not life its a high-quality game.
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Danie and Eden
Nikol:
Do you play games all day when you're not working. It sure seems that way as 
you always have so many questions about many games at once. Also, just how 
many have you bought? Be appreciative! If you don't like a game, just 
uninstall and don't whine about it. Danie 



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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
If I were a mod I'd close this immediately. Not my decision so I'll quiet up. 
Really 
guys, come come on lets stop the flaming. I keep repeating myself, lol I sound 
like a 
broaen record. I sound like a broken record. I sound like a broken record. Ok 
I'm 
done...



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:53:34 -0500, Ryan Smith wrote:


>Nicol Tom warned to keep it down in reply to ace fire, or at least 
>implied
>it to my interpretation. I keep saying the same thing over and over and 
>I
>know you heard it, so I am done with this kind of talk right now.
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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Message Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
Thom, check out Nicols topic there very rude...
And I agree. All topics of ace fire complaints should be closed and one name
nicol should be monitored.

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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread Danie and Eden
Nikol: You definitely have some grwoing up to do.
I think you should take a break from the list for a while. We're all tired 
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Aztecs Poll.

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
If it's ok with Mister Ward I could put beta 9 on sendspace but that probably 
would be a 
violation of the copyright. Right?


On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:40:19 -0600, Danie and Eden wrote:


>The FPS would be great. However, I wold like to see the last of Monte up 
>
>somewhere. If not, I understand. It was such a good game! But I 
>understand 
>all the time and resources involved to make it. There are a few games 
>I'd 
>consider buying and that was definitely one of them. I'll buy Mota when 
>it 
>is out for release! Danie 
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[Audyssey] lower than bsc ok for games?

2008-02-16 Thread ari
Hi all,
This is quite a tricky question, I suppose this goes to our developers 
like Thomas. I have a friend who, his situation is a bit tricky, in that 
he's not sure what to do, he wants to develop Information Systems for 
businesses, but he would also like to try his hand at games developing. Now, 
his problem is this, to get into the bsc of computer science, you need maths 
and science, but he didn't do science at school, so he can't get into the 
BSC. Some people say that you need physics to be able to program games, to 
like understand speeds and distances and things, but is this really 
necessary? Instead of doing a BSC, he can do a diploma in IT at a college, 
or, at the uni, he can do a BCom in Information Systems. If he were to do 
the Information Systems BCom, would the programming which he would pick up, 
where he would learn to make Information Systems, be OK for him to develop, 
even maybe some basic games? I know he'd like to do the BCOM, as his main 
goal is to develop business systems, but do you think he'd be able to also 
develop games and programs with it? I'm unfortunately not sure what the 
diploma in IT teaches, but is a BSC really necessary to understand things 
like Artificial Intelligence or to program computer games? Sorry, I know 
this sounds a bit confused, but, basically, I think what I want to know is, 
do you really need a top-of-the-range BSC in computer science to be a good 
games developer. He has enough maths to do a diploma in IT, or a BCom 
Information Systems, but his physics and science is really not good.
Ari 


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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread william lomas
yup i went there
at university now doing french but no they dont care about you when  
you go

On 16 Feb 2008, at 16:59, James Scholes wrote:

> haha that's funny, RNC caring about their student's life styles  
> outside of
> their college life, never gonna happen!
>
> --
> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:58 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price
>
>> I have a good mind and contact the college where you study and also  
>> tell
>> them  how ridiculous it is to sell such a little game for 20 dollars.
>> --
>> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:47 PM
>> To: "gamers" 
>> Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price
>>
>>> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
>>> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
>>> Now you have a choice.
>>> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
>>> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
>>> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is  
>>> to rob
>>> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
>>> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to  
>>> phone him
>>> right now and complain  about you.
>>> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
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Re: [Audyssey] ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Agreed, I'm sure once the Mods., know whats going on, Nicol can be
monitored. Thats whats best for everyone in my opinion.

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Re: [Audyssey] Moderator: Please stop this thread! my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Everyone please stop this thread immediately. Nicol has been placed on 
moderated status, but the rest of you guys are not helping by adding 
fuel to the fire. All you have to do is use that delete key and help not 
let this get out of control.

James Scholes wrote:
> You're crazy!
> 
> --
> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:58 PM
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price
> 
>> I have a good mind and contact the college where you study and also tell
>> them  how ridiculous it is to sell such a little game for 20 dollars.
>> --
>> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:47 PM
>> To: "gamers" 
>> Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price
>>
>>> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
>>> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
>>> Now you have a choice.
>>> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
>>> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
>>> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
>>> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
>>> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
>>> right now and complain  about you.
>>> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
You're crazy!

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> I have a good mind and contact the college where you study and also tell
> them  how ridiculous it is to sell such a little game for 20 dollars.
> --
> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:47 PM
> To: "gamers" 
> Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price
>
>> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
>> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
>> Now you have a choice.
>> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
>> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
>> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
>> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
>> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
>> right now and complain  about you.
>> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Aztecs Poll.

2008-02-16 Thread Danie and Eden
The FPS would be great. However, I wold like to see the last of Monte up 
somewhere. If not, I understand. It was such a good game! But I understand 
all the time and resources involved to make it. There are a few games I'd 
consider buying and that was definitely one of them. I'll buy Mota when it 
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[Audyssey] Handy Games

2008-02-16 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Hello Gamers,
I have a question:
Are there mobile phone games for the blind?
And work on a Nokia 6630?
If so, what?
Thanks and regards, Kevin 


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[Audyssey] /montefun stuff with tomb hunter

2008-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi tom I hope this is ok, since the sounds were not encrypted I opened them in 
gold wave 
and played with the pitch settings. And lol I found something funny. The lava, 
when sped up, 
sort of sounds like a running sink. Kinda funny. The fire slowed down sounds a 
little bit like 
clapping. Lol experimenting with these sounds is cool.

I also discovered that each key made a different pitch. I always knew that but 
I know why now. 
It's for the colors. There's blue key red key and white key I think. I didn't 
steal the 
sounds, just opened them up in goldwave and sped them up, then restored them to 
the original 
settings. It's kinda cool actually how creative people can do.

As I said the lava sounds like a running sink with an echo when sped up. Kinda 
cool.
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Danie and Eden
Thanks Ryan. I agree with you. I wish Nikol would be put on moderated STATUS 
FOR AWHILE UNTIL HE MATURES. It makes the list unpleasant to be on. Danie 



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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries Of The Aztecs FAQ.

2008-02-16 Thread Danie and Eden
Man, I'm sorry I couldn't buy Monte earlier! I only have up to Beta 8. Danie


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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
Yeah, and I don't know any games currently that have been made with the 
aduio game maker or similar package, most makers of games have wrote their 
games out by hand.

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> Yeah. Just listen to that music it's unbelievable! You really have to 
> think things over Nicol before
> you post. Try getting a vb editor, some vb libraries, and the actual 
> software; make
> software, spend hours debugging, testing, etc.
>
> Then spend hundreds of dollars on sounds and music. Plus the registration 
> library set
> Damien around 30 bucks.
>
> So just try that. Are your brains coming out your ears yet?
>
> If you do not like it, do not buy it. Simple as that.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:16:55 -0500, Ryan Smith wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>I do get your point about the monopoly game Nicol, but a monopoly game
>>isn't
>>as hard as ace fire, it make not seem that way, but I can guarantee it.
>>ACEFire uses multi-player support, which is difficult, and like I said,
>>all
>>those libraries and sounds, cost money, and Jims monopoly, which is
>>still
>>very good, does not necessarily have all of those..you still of course
>>have
>>all of your opinions, and this is mine.
>>
>>Thank You
>>-Ryan
>>Head of rsg
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[Audyssey] Moderator Note was my final warning!

2008-02-16 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi all,

Quote

You have a choice. Either stop complaining, or I'm out 
uh here!
End quote

I would like to just state that no one needs to leave the list over this 
disagreement. I am already dealing with Nicol as we speak. I have pblocked his 
posts from reaching the list without my approval, and I plan to talk to him off 
list about the matter privately.
I'm now dealing with the situation, and there is no need to continue this 
thread. Raul and I will take care of the situation soon.
Thanks.



On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:47:38 +0200, nicol wrote:



> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
> Now you have a choice.
> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
> right now and complain  about you.
> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] /montefun stuff with tomb hunter

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
And how in the world do I get past area 39 39? Please? Anyone know?

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> Here's the other thing. I get an error when a level is completed due to a
> sound being missing. Something like sounds\game\complete.wav. Now I found
> music\complete.wav and tried placing that in the sounds\game folder and 
> that
> still didn't work. Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> Damien
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Andy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: [Audyssey] /montefun stuff with tomb hunter
>
>
>> Hi tom I hope this is ok, since the sounds were not encrypted I opened
>> them in gold wave
>> and played with the pitch settings. And lol I found something funny. The
>> lava, when sped up,
>> sort of sounds like a running sink. Kinda funny. The fire slowed down
>> sounds a little bit like
>> clapping. Lol experimenting with these sounds is cool.
>>
>> I also discovered that each key made a different pitch. I always knew 
>> that
>> but I know why now.
>> It's for the colors. There's blue key red key and white key I think. I
>> didn't steal the
>> sounds, just opened them up in goldwave and sped them up, then restored
>> them to the original
>> settings. It's kinda cool actually how creative people can do.
>>
>> As I said the lava sounds like a running sink with an echo when sped up.
>> Kinda cool.
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[Audyssey] Moderator Topic Closed Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello listers,
I sent an email earlier asking everyone to calm down and be more 
constructive. I have decided that do to the inflamitory nature of the 
thread that it should be closed. Please, close this topic now.
Thank you.


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Re: [Audyssey] question about where to install direct exe

2008-02-16 Thread Valiant8086 (on laptop)
Hi.
Try installing in the default location specified by the direct x installer. 
In other words, just hit next.
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> hi tom and all other gamers. I am wondering where I have to install the 
> direct exe files to on my pc? I have installed the Microsoft framework and 
> am now going to install the direct exe files on to my pc. When I try 
> though it asks me where I want to install them to. What should I put in? 
> After I go and do this I am going to go and download Mystery ofthe Aztecs 
> and try it out. Many Thanks for any help that you could give me with this. 
> from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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Re: [Audyssey] UK devs any1 4cricket

2008-02-16 Thread ari
Oh sorry Mark, I didn't read board game, I sort of probably just got carried 
away by cricket game! Well, you'd have to probably sort of make rules for a 
game like that, because I've never heard of a cricket board game. One fun 
little game my friend and I used to play, you have three batsmen, then you 
take a dice. You throw it, and one, two, three, four and six are for runs, 
and a five is a wicket. You use your three batsmen, and he uses his. For the 
toss, you do one chooses odd, and the other even, the winner decides whether 
to bowl or bat first, and you do as many innings or balls in an innings as 
you want. We also devised a more complicated cricket game using dice, but 
I've forgotten a bit how it worked, I will actually write an article about 
games we invented using dice. We actually managed to make quite a few sports 
games using a dice, it's amazing what imagination and a dice can do.
Ari 


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Re: [Audyssey] Handy Games

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
CodeFactory make some i think.

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> Hello Gamers,
> I have a question:
> Are there mobile phone games for the blind?
> And work on a Nokia 6630?
> If so, what?
> Thanks and regards, Kevin
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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Poll Update.

2008-02-16 Thread Michael Maslo
Can I vote a trillion times for a 3d game

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hi i guess though that fps should be reserved for tombraider, now i  
come to think about it

On 16 Feb 2008, at 17:10, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hi,
>  No, you may not. However, I can say that as of the last poll
> check it is now 11 to 7 Side-Scroller.
>
> James Scholes wrote:
>> Can I voat for the same thing again to take it up to 10 for the side
>> scroler? Grins.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread nicol
Please give your 2 cents view, robjoy.



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Re: [Audyssey] UK devs any1 4cricket

2008-02-16 Thread Lisa Hayes
I"d love a cricket game, probably with sound and teams and so on, that would 
be so much fun, I am not a developer so couldn't write one, but by heck I'd 
buy one and have loads of fun with it.  By god I would.
Lisa Hayes
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> Oh sorry Mark, I didn't read board game, I sort of probably just got 
> carried
> away by cricket game! Well, you'd have to probably sort of make rules for 
> a
> game like that, because I've never heard of a cricket board game. One fun
> little game my friend and I used to play, you have three batsmen, then you
> take a dice. You throw it, and one, two, three, four and six are for runs,
> and a five is a wicket. You use your three batsmen, and he uses his. For 
> the
> toss, you do one chooses odd, and the other even, the winner decides 
> whether
> to bowl or bat first, and you do as many innings or balls in an innings as
> you want. We also devised a more complicated cricket game using dice, but
> I've forgotten a bit how it worked, I will actually write an article about
> games we invented using dice. We actually managed to make quite a few 
> sports
> games using a dice, it's amazing what imagination and a dice can do.
> Ari
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Pinball Gamers, have your voice heard!

2008-02-16 Thread Danie and Eden
I've always thought a second pack would be great. Haunted House seems fun 
and Wild West. Baseball,, too. Danie 



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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
Nicol, there is no law for charging too much. He did not con you at all, you
pay you get it, if you are not happy, then that is unfortunately your issue
to deal with privately. George Bush doesn't care about the audiogame
community, heck, he doesn't care about America. I am positive Raul and
Thomas would agree when I say this topic needs to be closed. "Hi Presiedent
Bush, someones charging to much! Help Me!" That's kind of funny, but nicol,
I believe that was a bit extreme there, and threatening the dev's is going
to get you nowhere.
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Re: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

2008-02-16 Thread James Scholes
urm, england doesn't have a president lol

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Subject: [Audyssey] my final warning! re: ace fire price

> Ok damion, I had enough of this.
> I've asked you millions of times to please give the game for free.
> Now you have a choice.
> Either you take that  site down or give away the game for free
> Or I'm going to  phone president george bush and report you to him.
> I'm going to phone him and tell him how totally ridiculous it is to rob
> someone, it's a total rip off to pay 20 dollars for dice   throwing.
> I have president bush's number, I'm not kidding. I'M going to phone him
> right now and complain  about you.
> And then its up to him to phone the president of England.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Acefire price

2008-02-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Nicol,
If you feel 20 is too much, than just don't buy it, Damien will not be
taking anything down, the price stands, thats that. Honestly, I think 20
bucks is a low price considering all the work Damien put into this. Please
stop. Posting Final Warnings is making YOU the one who is harrasing. Let's
move on Nicol...it's not life its a high-quality game.
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Re: [Audyssey] /montefun stuff with tomb hunter

2008-02-16 Thread Damien Sadler
Here's the other thing. I get an error when a level is completed due to a 
sound being missing. Something like sounds\game\complete.wav. Now I found 
music\complete.wav and tried placing that in the sounds\game folder and that 
still didn't work. Any suggestions?

Regards,
Damien



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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] /montefun stuff with tomb hunter


> Hi tom I hope this is ok, since the sounds were not encrypted I opened 
> them in gold wave
> and played with the pitch settings. And lol I found something funny. The 
> lava, when sped up,
> sort of sounds like a running sink. Kinda funny. The fire slowed down 
> sounds a little bit like
> clapping. Lol experimenting with these sounds is cool.
>
> I also discovered that each key made a different pitch. I always knew that 
> but I know why now.
> It's for the colors. There's blue key red key and white key I think. I 
> didn't steal the
> sounds, just opened them up in goldwave and sped them up, then restored 
> them to the original
> settings. It's kinda cool actually how creative people can do.
>
> As I said the lava sounds like a running sink with an echo when sped up. 
> Kinda cool.
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