Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me
Thanks, I always wondered about that one sinse as I said the only Marko Polo I know is the explorer, the 4th ever Doctor Who story back in 1963 was acalled MArko Polo and involved the Doctor and crew running into the explorer and having the Tardis stolen as a present for Kublakarn. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me Yup, Marco Polo was an explorer, but, according to certain hoax/myth sites, he made up most of his exploratory transcriptions/writings, etc...smile The game version of the term marco polo is a form of tag/hide and seek, generally played in a swimming pool, and with the person designated as it keeping their eyes closed, or doing something like pulling a swimming cap down over their eyes, but, there are also other versions played out of the swimming pool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_(game) Effectively, the 'it' person calls out marco, and the other, target individuals have to answer polo each time, to let the active person track them down. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me
Hi Tom. Thanks for that. As I said it's one that has always confused me when I've seen it in the simpsons or whatever. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me Hi Dark, Marco Polo is a children's game similar to tag. Basically, in Marco Polo the child playing Marco is blind folded and he or she yells Marco and all the other kids respond with Polo. The idea being that Marco is to try and tag the other kids by sound alone rather than using sight. When Marco tags someone he/she getst to be Marco for a while trying to tag someone else. HTH On 11/16/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi jacob. Lets not get back into the spelling discussion otherwise we'll have certain list members riding their high horses. Regarding libraries and atmosphere, I do take the point on browsing and on the environment though this is probably one area where we'll see a fall back in net use, or perhaps see libraries which remain electronic but still exist for the reading promotion or community aspects in the future, indeed a friend of mine who works as a librarian at the moment says a large part of her job is social, which likely will remain even if the sources for information are electronic. this is one area where think obsessions with everything online might fall off in the next while as people realize the need for the space even if the information differs. Regarding the meaning and derivation of words at least, I see text speak as far more problematic in this area more than simply having the information, which is one reason i prefer e-mail to text myself. My concern actually with a lot of text speak isn't so much whether people use words without thinking of them as whether people know as many words to use if all conversations are of the level ur mi bff coswe duz gud stuff Regarding satnavs and electronic sports, satnavs are a major improvement in access technology generally and I can well imagine people hiking with them. What I am wondering in game terms though is if electronic devices will make their way into more games than currently exist, particularly ones requiring exercise and as you said, analogue movement. Btw, what is marco polo? that's one term I don't know, it always is a bit confusing why people splashing in pools or whatever on the Simpsons and other american programs start shouting Marco Polo. (I know your not American but obviously you know the term in this case). To me Marco Polo was an explorer who traveled across China (possibly accompanied by Doctor who):D. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me
Yup, Marco Polo was an explorer, but, according to certain hoax/myth sites, he made up most of his exploratory transcriptions/writings, etc...smile The game version of the term marco polo is a form of tag/hide and seek, generally played in a swimming pool, and with the person designated as it keeping their eyes closed, or doing something like pulling a swimming cap down over their eyes, but, there are also other versions played out of the swimming pool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_(game) Effectively, the 'it' person calls out marco, and the other, target individuals have to answer polo each time, to let the active person track them down. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me
Hi Dark, Marco Polo is a children's game similar to tag. Basically, in Marco Polo the child playing Marco is blind folded and he or she yells Marco and all the other kids respond with Polo. The idea being that Marco is to try and tag the other kids by sound alone rather than using sight. When Marco tags someone he/she getst to be Marco for a while trying to tag someone else. HTH On 11/16/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi jacob. Lets not get back into the spelling discussion otherwise we'll have certain list members riding their high horses. Regarding libraries and atmosphere, I do take the point on browsing and on the environment though this is probably one area where we'll see a fall back in net use, or perhaps see libraries which remain electronic but still exist for the reading promotion or community aspects in the future, indeed a friend of mine who works as a librarian at the moment says a large part of her job is social, which likely will remain even if the sources for information are electronic. this is one area where think obsessions with everything online might fall off in the next while as people realize the need for the space even if the information differs. Regarding the meaning and derivation of words at least, I see text speak as far more problematic in this area more than simply having the information, which is one reason i prefer e-mail to text myself. My concern actually with a lot of text speak isn't so much whether people use words without thinking of them as whether people know as many words to use if all conversations are of the level ur mi bff coswe duz gud stuff Regarding satnavs and electronic sports, satnavs are a major improvement in access technology generally and I can well imagine people hiking with them. What I am wondering in game terms though is if electronic devices will make their way into more games than currently exist, particularly ones requiring exercise and as you said, analogue movement. Btw, what is marco polo? that's one term I don't know, it always is a bit confusing why people splashing in pools or whatever on the Simpsons and other american programs start shouting Marco Polo. (I know your not American but obviously you know the term in this case). To me Marco Polo was an explorer who traveled across China (possibly accompanied by Doctor who):D. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me
Yup, Marco Polo was an explorer, but, according to certain hoax/myth sites, he made up most of his exploratory transcriptions/writings, etc...smile The game version of the term marco polo is a form of tag/hide and seek, generally played in a swimming pool, and with the person designated as it keeping their eyes closed, or doing something like pulling a swimming cap down over their eyes, but, there are also other versions played out of the swimming pool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_(game) Effectively, the 'it' person calls out marco, and the other, target individuals have to answer polo each time, to let the active person track them down. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me Hi jacob. Lets not get back into the spelling discussion otherwise we'll have certain list members riding their high horses. Regarding libraries and atmosphere, I do take the point on browsing and on the environment though this is probably one area where we'll see a fall back in net use, or perhaps see libraries which remain electronic but still exist for the reading promotion or community aspects in the future, indeed a friend of mine who works as a librarian at the moment says a large part of her job is social, which likely will remain even if the sources for information are electronic. this is one area where think obsessions with everything online might fall off in the next while as people realize the need for the space even if the information differs. Regarding the meaning and derivation of words at least, I see text speak as far more problematic in this area more than simply having the information, which is one reason i prefer e-mail to text myself. My concern actually with a lot of text speak isn't so much whether people use words without thinking of them as whether people know as many words to use if all conversations are of the level ur mi bff coswe duz gud stuff Regarding satnavs and electronic sports, satnavs are a major improvement in access technology generally and I can well imagine people hiking with them. What I am wondering in game terms though is if electronic devices will make their way into more games than currently exist, particularly ones requiring exercise and as you said, analogue movement. Btw, what is marco polo? that's one term I don't know, it always is a bit confusing why people splashing in pools or whatever on the Simpsons and other american programs start shouting Marco Polo. (I know your not American but obviously you know the term in this case). To me Marco Polo was an explorer who traveled across China (possibly accompanied by Doctor who):D. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me With regards to people primarily using electronic information/reading sources, while I especially appreciate it nowadays, in the old days - a long time ago, one of my favourite activities was to go to an old, large library, and browse around the shelves - maybe it was something to do with the atmosphere of a library, literally browsing shelves of books, and coming across something where the title would catch your eye, and you'd read the blurb, and end up discovering a new author, all by yourself, or something, but, suppose book discussion clubs are somewhat similar, even if reading books in electronic formats nowadays, but, the one other thing have noticed with regards to some sighted children nowadays is they'd rather listen to the audio version of a book than try actually reading the story themselves - and that, I don't necessarily think is a good thing in the long run - I was one of those guys who before getting involved in most new activities, would pop round library, and do my own forms of research, and, much as I find it extremely useful/helpful, etc., maybe making it too easy to do quick bits of research isn't the best thing overall since it means people get too used to just accepting the first form of an answer they come across...smile I also, still, sort of refuse to use a word, in any context, spoken or not, that I can't spell, and that don't at least have a basic concept of it's meaning, in the relevant context, but anyway...whereas nowadays, lots of people are unable to, off-hand, spell the longer words they use on a regular basis when speaking, and if you ask them if they know the origin, or original meaning of a term that might nowadays get used often enough in media, or as a form of slang
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From my side, one of the best things about modern technology is information sharing - wikipedia and google/search engines etc. - but, pretty much standard behaviour for humans is to take something, and misuse/abuse it...smile In terms of forms of game-playing, etc., one thing know sighted golfers can use this side is a sort of golf course specific, miniature form of GPS system - not even sure if it actually uses GPS receivers, or just uses directional masts on the golf courses themselves, but, they can carry around a small device that informs them that from their current position, taking current weather conditions into account, they should probably use a certain club, and hit the ball in a specific direction, etc. etc. - while I suppose 'true' golfers might not like/appreciate something like that, think the theory is that it can be used by people still developing golf skills to in fact develop them - technology impregnating yet another type of activity that some people would have thought it would be sort of the opposite of...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me Hi Jacob. I do like Cyberkynetic :D. I suppose for me growing up in the 80's technology is sort of a natural extention of what was being done, after all I was playing games on the Atari 2600 when I was three or four, and I've always done my reading by audio if I could. Actually, I recently found out that the first compact disk became available to the public in Germany on quite literally the day I was born, august 17th 1982, which, given how much of a part listening to music and radio plays, audio books and computer games have made in my life is quite a coincidence. What I am concerned about at the moment isn't so much the technology in and of itself, but the technology as a form of purely social control by larger and larger coorporations, and the world of exchanging information and socialization online actually becoming both depersonalized and less free, especially compared to the trends in the 90's. Indeed, while technology plays a part in social change and in the world we live in I am coming to the conclusion that it is as much how that technology is introduced to society, what levels of control it involves and how people react to that technology that is more of a factor. For example, we have the technology right now in the world to setup a self sufficient luna or martian colony. hydroponics, rocketry, communications, power generation through self renewing means, it's all there, however that doesn't mean it's going to happen, sinse economically and cooperatively it's just not workable at the moment, (it doesn't make enough prophet for the fat cats). to bring this back to gaming, I actually also wonder if we'll see computer games and technological gaming devices on a smaller scale once we've removed the idea of games as purely comperized actions. We've already got tablets with gyros etc, but wouldn't it be cool to have a talking football that could tell you the direction and distance of the goal, and measure how much force you needed to kick it? Or how about a gun com controller for an fps game with real recoil? and remember the chat we had about voice control? Or how about a talking monopoly board, where the peaces track where you can move them and will speak their space, including a computer opponent who's peaces you could move physically but who's moves were tracked by the board's internal engine. I actually hope in a way the emphasis on social media, tablets and other devices falls off sinse technologically with the speed of information processing and the ability to monitor human action there are lots of interesting devices that could make rrecreational activities quite a lot of fun. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
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Hi Jacob. Access to information is a good point, though one interesting thing I've noticed is that, perhaps partly because of those abuses of power you mention, people do not believe technological information sharing is legitimate. For example,my mum was recently complaining over the fact that instead of primary school children being given physical story books, they were directed to the books online to read with their computers, tablets etc. We're not talking about blind or vi children here, just sighted children in normal schools of about 5 or 6. My mum believed that this was bad, that the kids were missing out and that it would discourage say a parent reading the story book together with their child. I however disagreed, (indeed a friend of mine already reads to his daughter off his kindle). Sinse just because you change the mode of outputting the information, electronically as apposed to a book that doesn't change a person's relationship to that information. yes, bad parents will probably say go to your room and read your school books on your computer and don't bother me but how is this different to bad parents saying the same of a physical book? I also agree Wikipedia is great, particularly if you just want some random information, although I do one legitimate concern is that when information is so readily available, will people's skills at assimilating, remembering and drawing conclusions from that informationn, though interestingly enough this is an area where computer games, especially the complex ones like King of Dragon pass can help as effectively a mental workout for the information processing and memorization centers of the brain, provided of course the games are designed so as to be challenging rather than just repetition. I do remember hearing something about the Golf thing you mention, though one quite interesting possible use would be blind accessible golf, sinse if you couldget not only course information but positional information about the ball and your stick, a blind person could play golf quite efficiently with the same informational advantages of someone with working eyeballs. Indeed, I wonder if in the future we'll see similar access to a number of sports, although having the word access in front will mean such things don't get developed that soon. I also wonder if eventually we'll start to see the development of new sports, especially with the analogue control methods. I already know there are world championships of dance dance revolution, though. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me
With regards to people primarily using electronic information/reading sources, while I especially appreciate it nowadays, in the old days - a long time ago, one of my favourite activities was to go to an old, large library, and browse around the shelves - maybe it was something to do with the atmosphere of a library, literally browsing shelves of books, and coming across something where the title would catch your eye, and you'd read the blurb, and end up discovering a new author, all by yourself, or something, but, suppose book discussion clubs are somewhat similar, even if reading books in electronic formats nowadays, but, the one other thing have noticed with regards to some sighted children nowadays is they'd rather listen to the audio version of a book than try actually reading the story themselves - and that, I don't necessarily think is a good thing in the long run - I was one of those guys who before getting involved in most new activities, would pop round library, and do my own forms of research, and, much as I find it extremely useful/helpful, etc., maybe making it too easy to do quick bits of research isn't the best thing overall since it means people get too used to just accepting the first form of an answer they come across...smile I also, still, sort of refuse to use a word, in any context, spoken or not, that I can't spell, and that don't at least have a basic concept of it's meaning, in the relevant context, but anyway...whereas nowadays, lots of people are unable to, off-hand, spell the longer words they use on a regular basis when speaking, and if you ask them if they know the origin, or original meaning of a term that might nowadays get used often enough in media, or as a form of slang term, etc., in a way that sort of ignores it's origin/concept/meaning, they get confused that you're even asking them about that, but anyway - almost my own little form of a illiteracy rant, but anyway...LOL! And, again, in terms of gaming, etc., yes, there are quite a few forms of smartphone games that use acceleration sensors in phones to offer physical interaction, etc., like blind ping pong for the android platform etc. as well, as well as another form of experimental version of blind marco polo using android phones where the idea was to let multiple players play the same game, against each other, using their android phones, in an environment of something like a football field, etc. - also similar to sort of global treasure cacheing that some guys take part in where they'll stash their own little packages in odd places, and try sharing clues, or something like GPS coordinates on bulletin boards, and think the sort of rule is that if you find/encounter something like that, you have to leave your own package before taking the other one, or something, but anyway. I know some blindie golfers who just keep the right caddie with them, but, something like this might let them play more independently - or fall in more water features...smile And, I've already used smartphone GPS to navigate parts of outdoor environments, like campsites - was still trying to persuade some local guys to set up a form of outdoors, blindie, obstacle course using something like this at one stage. And, also know of a person who used something similar to hike most of the appalachian trail on his own. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me Hi Jacob. Access to information is a good point, though one interesting thing I've noticed is that, perhaps partly because of those abuses of power you mention, people do not believe technological information sharing is legitimate. For example,my mum was recently complaining over the fact that instead of primary school children being given physical story books, they were directed to the books online to read with their computers, tablets etc. We're not talking about blind or vi children here, just sighted children in normal schools of about 5 or 6. My mum believed that this was bad, that the kids were missing out and that it would discourage say a parent reading the story book together with their child. I however disagreed, (indeed a friend of mine already reads to his daughter off his kindle). Sinse just because you change the mode of outputting the information, electronically as apposed to a book that doesn't change a person's relationship to that information. yes, bad parents will probably say go to your room and read your school books on your computer and don't bother me but how is this different to bad parents saying the same of a physical book? I also agree Wikipedia is great, particularly if you just want some random information
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Oh yes, and other issue with playing golf all by ourselves would be finding the ball again - if you hadn't managed a hole in one...smile Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me
Hi jacob. Lets not get back into the spelling discussion otherwise we'll have certain list members riding their high horses. Regarding libraries and atmosphere, I do take the point on browsing and on the environment though this is probably one area where we'll see a fall back in net use, or perhaps see libraries which remain electronic but still exist for the reading promotion or community aspects in the future, indeed a friend of mine who works as a librarian at the moment says a large part of her job is social, which likely will remain even if the sources for information are electronic. this is one area where think obsessions with everything online might fall off in the next while as people realize the need for the space even if the information differs. Regarding the meaning and derivation of words at least, I see text speak as far more problematic in this area more than simply having the information, which is one reason i prefer e-mail to text myself. My concern actually with a lot of text speak isn't so much whether people use words without thinking of them as whether people know as many words to use if all conversations are of the level ur mi bff coswe duz gud stuff Regarding satnavs and electronic sports, satnavs are a major improvement in access technology generally and I can well imagine people hiking with them. What I am wondering in game terms though is if electronic devices will make their way into more games than currently exist, particularly ones requiring exercise and as you said, analogue movement. Btw, what is marco polo? that's one term I don't know, it always is a bit confusing why people splashing in pools or whatever on the Simpsons and other american programs start shouting Marco Polo. (I know your not American but obviously you know the term in this case). To me Marco Polo was an explorer who traveled across China (possibly accompanied by Doctor who):D. All the best, Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me With regards to people primarily using electronic information/reading sources, while I especially appreciate it nowadays, in the old days - a long time ago, one of my favourite activities was to go to an old, large library, and browse around the shelves - maybe it was something to do with the atmosphere of a library, literally browsing shelves of books, and coming across something where the title would catch your eye, and you'd read the blurb, and end up discovering a new author, all by yourself, or something, but, suppose book discussion clubs are somewhat similar, even if reading books in electronic formats nowadays, but, the one other thing have noticed with regards to some sighted children nowadays is they'd rather listen to the audio version of a book than try actually reading the story themselves - and that, I don't necessarily think is a good thing in the long run - I was one of those guys who before getting involved in most new activities, would pop round library, and do my own forms of research, and, much as I find it extremely useful/helpful, etc., maybe making it too easy to do quick bits of research isn't the best thing overall since it means people get too used to just accepting the first form of an answer they come across...smile I also, still, sort of refuse to use a word, in any context, spoken or not, that I can't spell, and that don't at least have a basic concept of it's meaning, in the relevant context, but anyway...whereas nowadays, lots of people are unable to, off-hand, spell the longer words they use on a regular basis when speaking, and if you ask them if they know the origin, or original meaning of a term that might nowadays get used often enough in media, or as a form of slang term, etc., in a way that sort of ignores it's origin/concept/meaning, they get confused that you're even asking them about that, but anyway - almost my own little form of a illiteracy rant, but anyway...LOL! And, again, in terms of gaming, etc., yes, there are quite a few forms of smartphone games that use acceleration sensors in phones to offer physical interaction, etc., like blind ping pong for the android platform etc. as well, as well as another form of experimental version of blind marco polo using android phones where the idea was to let multiple players play the same game, against each other, using their android phones, in an environment of something like a football field, etc. - also similar to sort of global treasure cacheing that some guys take part in where they'll stash their own little packages in odd places, and try sharing clues, or something like GPS coordinates on bulletin boards, and think the sort of rule is that if you find/encounter something like
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Hi jacob. This is where electronics could help sinse if the ball had some sort of sensor the software in your electronic device could tell you where it was, as well as your own position relative to the hole. Beware the grue! Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me Oh yes, and other issue with playing golf all by ourselves would be finding the ball again - if you hadn't managed a hole in one...smile Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me
HI all I don't know about other countries but in south africa people often use a well-known saying: An apple a day keeps the doctor away. This is not to be taken literally; it means if you eat fruit regularly you won't get sick often. So I've been thinking about this saying and I've invented a saying based on this well-known saying. My saying goes: An apple a day keeps boredom away. My invented saying means that if you have an apple device such as an IPHone, you can play games on it that will drive away being borred. Games such as flip it and zany touch, bopit style games, are examples of games that will drive boredom away. And also the true or false test your wits game is in my opinion another good example of a game that will keep bordom away. So what do you think of my new saying? Bfn Nicol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Nicol, not being nasty, etc. - not trying to anyway - but another interpretation of that saying have heard here in SA a few times is that, yes, an apple a day keeps the doctor away - he's not needed in a mortuary...smile But, yes, while I'm a cyborg - android user - nothing wrong with everything available for iPhones, etc. out there, and, yes, I call myself a cyborg since, aside from smart phone usage, which I do quite a bit of, most of my life involves various forms of electronic involvement - cyborg = cybernnetic organism...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me HI all I don't know about other countries but in south africa people often use a well-known saying: An apple a day keeps the doctor away. This is not to be taken literally; it means if you eat fruit regularly you won't get sick often. So I've been thinking about this saying and I've invented a saying based on this well-known saying. My saying goes: An apple a day keeps boredom away. My invented saying means that if you have an apple device such as an IPHone, you can play games on it that will drive away being borred. Games such as flip it and zany touch, bopit style games, are examples of games that will drive boredom away. And also the true or false test your wits game is in my opinion another good example of a game that will keep bordom away. So what do you think of my new saying? Bfn Nicol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Nicol. We have that saying in England as well, however while I take your point, limiting it to apple seems incorrect. For example, today I have been playing the new astro galaxy game and certainly have not been board doing so, and yet that, as a browser game could be played on anything with an internet browser, I'm playing on my Pc for example. Recently a lot of people were playing Jim Kitchin's Pizza delivery game, or the rpg Paladin of the skies which are both pc games. Similarly, I'm sure there are people playing interactive fiction on braille notes, games on Android phones, even getting something out of mainstream games on consoles. Your saying an Apple a day implies that apple devices such as Mac and Iphone or Ipad are the only way of playing games and not being board, and that is simply not true. Of course, I do really like my iphone as much as anyone, right now I'm waiting for the bug fix for audio defense, and recently I was playing some of Audio It's games and the choiceofgames titles. I also particularly like games like Audio defense that use the analogue control in new ways, however just as one can be healthy eating different sorts of fresh fruite and vegitables each day, a person can play a lot of games on other devices than Apple manufactured ones. Remember that the saying An Apple a day comes from a time (in Britain anyway), when there really wasn't much fresh fruite or vegitables around to eat. No imports of Oranges or Bananas from tropical countries, and even for things like berries that could be grown, unless made into jam or pickled they would rot fairly soon with no way of freezing them. Apples, if stored in a cool dry place such as a cellar did not rot, meaning that they would be a valuable source of vitamins over winter and early spring before the new crops grew, and for those who didn't eat such things, even if they got enough calleries from other foods there would be some pretty bad vitamine defficiency deseases that people could get such as scurvy, (king Henry the Eighth was over 21 stone in his late 20's sinse King's pretty much ate solid meet and very little by way of fruite or vegitables). However just like now we have far more choices of eatable fresh fruite or vegitables than Apples, thus making the saying in it's original form a little pointless, we have far more choices of possible games playing devices to relieve boardom than just ones made by Apple coorporation. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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An apple a day keeps the Doctor away because he's not needed in the mortuary? Wow! you must have some pretty evil Apples in your part of the world Jacob, do you live next to the 7 dwarves cottage? :D. I agree on the very extreme dependence upon technology, heck I pretty much rely on my devices such as Pc, Iphone and now my new Victor mp3 player for my chief sources of both communication and entertainment, however I do not agree that this makes me a cyborg. The term cybernetics originally meant a set of mathematical equations referring to regulation of complex systems, which were later applied to mechanical technology, indeed several principles of cybernetics were used in the designs of early steam treains. The term Cybernetic organism therefore was used to indicate an organism which included technology as a method of controlling it's essential biological function, hence the idea of Cybernetic limbs etc. In 1966, Kit Pedler took this to it's ultimate extreme and designed the Cybernetic man or cyber man as a conceptual villain for doctor who, a people who had had so many cybernetic surgical implants in order to survive life on a planet rapidly cooling as it headed away from the sun, that they had got to the point of surgically removing their own emotions and replacing them with cybernetics ie, rigid control and logic for regulation. Therefore I wouldn't class reliance upon information technology as making you a cyborg because A, the computer is not a method of controlling you (or at lleast I hope it isn't), and B, the computer is not actually part of your organism, ie, it is still external to your body. On the other hand, a person with an electronic pace maker for their heart probably is! by definition a cyborg, sinse the pace maker definitely is internal to their body and part of their hole organism, and definitely exerts a controlling influence. Btw, If your interestedin the conceptual history of cybernetics and cyborgs, there is a very good book called Cybermen by David Banks. While it does directly deal with the Doctor Who creatures, including their in universe history and details of how they were realized on tv in the classic series, it also has a lot of rather interesting stuff on the history of the Cyberman concept and the ideas behind them. Beware the grue! Dark. Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad! - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me Nicol, not being nasty, etc. - not trying to anyway - but another interpretation of that saying have heard here in SA a few times is that, yes, an apple a day keeps the doctor away - he's not needed in a mortuary...smile But, yes, while I'm a cyborg - android user - nothing wrong with everything available for iPhones, etc. out there, and, yes, I call myself a cyborg since, aside from smart phone usage, which I do quite a bit of, most of my life involves various forms of electronic involvement - cyborg = cybernnetic organism...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me HI all I don't know about other countries but in south africa people often use a well-known saying: An apple a day keeps the doctor away. This is not to be taken literally; it means if you eat fruit regularly you won't get sick often. So I've been thinking about this saying and I've invented a saying based on this well-known saying. My saying goes: An apple a day keeps boredom away. My invented saying means that if you have an apple device such as an IPHone, you can play games on it that will drive away being borred. Games such as flip it and zany touch, bopit style games, are examples of games that will drive boredom away. And also the true or false test your wits game is in my opinion another good example of a game that will keep bordom away. So what do you think of my new saying? Bfn Nicol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr
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Dark, will check out that book, but, using the term cyborg for myself is more of a joke - maybe those of us who like to use electronics to move around/navigate are more cyberkinetic than cybernetic...smile (yes, know twisting definitions/term applications etc. smile) Suppose it's also that while I remember a time before cellphones were even publicly available, and when something like a car/bike that even had an electronic speedometer display was a bit 'freaky' means I think of myself as having jumped into an electronic age out of an iron age...? LOL! But, nowadays, some young people seem like they might be lost in a world that didn't have them using multiple electronic devices/gadgets, etc. all day, every day..? And, in terms of media/fictional usage, one of the TV shows I loved the most, a long time ago, was the 6 million dollar man - Steve Austin... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Jacob. I do like Cyberkynetic :D. I suppose for me growing up in the 80's technology is sort of a natural extention of what was being done, after all I was playing games on the Atari 2600 when I was three or four, and I've always done my reading by audio if I could. Actually, I recently found out that the first compact disk became available to the public in Germany on quite literally the day I was born, august 17th 1982, which, given how much of a part listening to music and radio plays, audio books and computer games have made in my life is quite a coincidence. What I am concerned about at the moment isn't so much the technology in and of itself, but the technology as a form of purely social control by larger and larger coorporations, and the world of exchanging information and socialization online actually becoming both depersonalized and less free, especially compared to the trends in the 90's. Indeed, while technology plays a part in social change and in the world we live in I am coming to the conclusion that it is as much how that technology is introduced to society, what levels of control it involves and how people react to that technology that is more of a factor. For example, we have the technology right now in the world to setup a self sufficient luna or martian colony. hydroponics, rocketry, communications, power generation through self renewing means, it's all there, however that doesn't mean it's going to happen, sinse economically and cooperatively it's just not workable at the moment, (it doesn't make enough prophet for the fat cats). to bring this back to gaming, I actually also wonder if we'll see computer games and technological gaming devices on a smaller scale once we've removed the idea of games as purely comperized actions. We've already got tablets with gyros etc, but wouldn't it be cool to have a talking football that could tell you the direction and distance of the goal, and measure how much force you needed to kick it? Or how about a gun com controller for an fps game with real recoil? and remember the chat we had about voice control? Or how about a talking monopoly board, where the peaces track where you can move them and will speak their space, including a computer opponent who's peaces you could move physically but who's moves were tracked by the board's internal engine. I actually hope in a way the emphasis on social media, tablets and other devices falls off sinse technologically with the speed of information processing and the ability to monitor human action there are lots of interesting devices that could make rrecreational activities quite a lot of fun. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Nicol, I agree with you about iPhone games. I’ve just been playing Diceworld, which I downloaded last week, and love it. Sent from my iMac On 15 Nov 2014, at 3:17 am, Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: HI all I don't know about other countries but in south africa people often use a well-known saying: An apple a day keeps the doctor away. This is not to be taken literally; it means if you eat fruit regularly you won't get sick often. So I've been thinking about this saying and I've invented a saying based on this well-known saying. My saying goes: An apple a day keeps boredom away. My invented saying means that if you have an apple device such as an IPHone, you can play games on it that will drive away being borred. Games such as flip it and zany touch, bopit style games, are examples of games that will drive boredom away. And also the true or false test your wits game is in my opinion another good example of a game that will keep bordom away. So what do you think of my new saying? Bfn Nicol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
