Re: [Audyssey] making a game together
Hi Claudio, What you are thinking of is a really nice idea, but is pretty impractical under the current circumstances. There is quite a lot of logistics involved in building a development team that would have to be worked out. Here is just a few of the biggies I see would be a problem. First, all developers would have to be skilled in the same programming language. From what I have seen there is developers using VB 6, VB 2005/2008, Java, C#, C++, Python, etc. Basically programming languages with little to no similarity to each other in order to a forge a common development platform. The C# and Java developers could probably work together since both languages are similar, but really if you don't know the underlying packages and dll files for that language coding similarities won't mean much. Second, the developers that work together should have similar skills and experience behind them. When game company x, commercial game company x, hires employees they try to hire programmers with similar experience and skills. Why? That is because if all members on the team have the same skills and experience no one has to look over their shoulder and see if they are doing their job correctly. Else the in experienced dude will make mistakes the experienced programmers will have to go back correct, rewrite, whatever involving more work. The experienced dudes will be doing all the work while the inexperienced dudes will just slow them down. Third, a common coding style. I know inexperienced programmers say what is the difference, but there is a big difference. The way someone programs is usually associated with how they think out problems and problem solve. Two programmers won't necessarily think the same,format the same, or generate the same kind of code. Some common coding conventions must be agreed upon. For example, let us say an experienced dude likes to use short variable names like cd, px, py, etc. A les experienced programmer might want to use full variable names like currentDistance, playerX, playerY, etc to make his code more readable. This has to be discussed before any coding is started to insure everything will be the same for everyone. In this instance both parties would probably adopt full variable names as it would be easily readable to everyone and not just the dude who wrote it. Finally, there is the matter of time sharing and payment. If I worked 12 hours per week and my partners only did 4 each should I get tripple their pay for the game? You need to think about how the income is redistributed. In my opinion the guy who put the most hours in gets the most pay. Claudio wrote: Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] making a game together
Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] making a game together
Except then you have the problem of several different developers trying to worrk on the same project. The only way that would work is if they could all agree on everything, and I mean EVERYTHING. Their programming styles and languages wouldn't be the same for one thing, not just the ideas for the game itself. There would just be too many differences between them for that to work well. That's what happened with BSC Games and Castle Quest a few years ago if I remember rightly. BSC tried to work with a third party developer, but licensing issues got in the way. The new guys wanted the license to the game and BSC understandably didn't want to give it to them since it was their idea in the first place. Needless to say that project was scrapped. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] making a game together Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] making a game together
I'd like to be in on this, especially making it available for more than just Windows if this does happen. HTH. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] making a game together Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] making a game together
How would the proceeds be divided/ Who would work on which aspect, and what would the game's theme, plot, and action be? Who would be working on it, and whose name would be on the finished product? Ten Pin Alley was a joint project between two companies. I wonder who got the most money? --- Laughter is the best medicine. Look around you and find a dose. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] making a game together Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] making a game together
One little hitch, they don't use the same programming language. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [Audyssey] making a game together Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hmm interesting idea though how that'd work still remains a mystery as devs work in different languages. vb 6, c# and other such languages. Even java etc... c++ etc. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:47:48 +0100 Subject: [Audyssey] making a game together Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah, collaborating with a developer(s), would be a lot of pain for most, as many work in different languages, coding methods, licensing systems, the list, can go on, and on. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:43:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] making a game together How would the proceeds be divided/ Who would work on which aspect, and what would the game's theme, plot, and action be? Who would be working on it, and whose name would be on the finished product? Ten Pin Alley was a joint project between two companies. I wonder who got the most money? --- Laughter is the best medicine. Look around you and find a dose. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] making a game together Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] making a game together
It'd be interesting, but annoying. You'd have to comment or explain what some variables do, because I sometimes name my variables crazy names. There are different programming styles...the only place I really work with other people is at X-Sight, but theres no licensing issues, because we're all the team. -Ryan On 3/24/08, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, collaborating with a developer(s), would be a lot of pain for most, as many work in different languages, coding methods, licensing systems, the list, can go on, and on. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:43:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] making a game together How would the proceeds be divided/ Who would work on which aspect, and what would the game's theme, plot, and action be? Who would be working on it, and whose name would be on the finished product? Ten Pin Alley was a joint project between two companies. I wonder who got the most money? --- Laughter is the best medicine. Look around you and find a dose. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] making a game together Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] making a game together
Plus people work in different languages and have different coding methods. Not that I'm a developer, but when I had a braille lite I used blazie basic on the thing. Nothing to take pride in, just something to start in. It was very confusing because of the line numbers. 10 ? Welcome to the program 20 input What's your name , name$ 30 if name$ = Thomas Ward then beep: click: ? Excellent dev!: if name$ = Liam Erven then beep: click: ? Good developer!: click 40 print I shall now end because I am wasting time.: end That's just something stupid, but ehh. Gotta start somewhere. Point is that I used to code stuff like that, colons sticking lines together, etc. Which the Fs note takers hated, but I got an Uno game working. But then it decided to completely stop functioning so I got this here bn. And I had arrays, variables, all kinds of crazy things that would probably drive anyone crazy. It even drove me crazy! Lol! - Original Message - From: Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:45:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] making a game together It'd be interesting, but annoying. You'd have to comment or explain what some variables do, because I sometimes name my variables crazy names. There are different programming styles...the only place I really work with other people is at X-Sight, but theres no licensing issues, because we're all the team. -Ryan On 3/24/08, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, collaborating with a developer(s), would be a lot of pain for most, as many work in different languages, coding methods, licensing systems, the list, can go on, and on. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:43:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] making a game together How would the proceeds be divided/ Who would work on which aspect, and what would the game's theme, plot, and action be? Who would be working on it, and whose name would be on the finished product? Ten Pin Alley was a joint project between two companies. I wonder who got the most money? --- Laughter is the best medicine. Look around you and find a dose. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] making a game together Hello all! I have a good idea: What do you think about making a game together? I mean if l-works, usagames, and so on can build a game together we have a good product with high quality! What i mean, if each developer needs a year or two for create a game with huge qualiti it is to long but if several developers make a game together it gooes faster and the fun is higer! Just an idea from my side. Best regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages
