Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game
I have to agree with Hayden here. Just if you set a temporary nun character set which is dun by pressing caps lock 2 and it will chang the character to nun, words, both characters and words and you could change it to which one you really like. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game Hi Shaun, Actually--JAWS should not be a problem, as thatis how I run it and it works like a charm. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game hmmm I have never run it with jaws. tell your friend to run the config for it then set it to sapi. next set a shortcut to it then exit jaws and run it that way. that should work. on that note I have had my net down for a couple weeks myself, not good! At 12:18 a.m. 22/05/2010, you wrote: Greetings, I am asking this question for my friend because she has had her internet connection unavailable for quite long and she has not been able to read e-mails for a while. She has a problem with horse racing game. When she tries to run the game, jaws freezes, or when she deactivates jaws, the game does not work still. She has installed everything requested for this game, but nothing has happened. Could anyone please help figuring out this problem? Any kind of help would be appreciated. Best regards Maria --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game
Greetings, I am asking this question for my friend because she has had her internet connection unavailable for quite long and she has not been able to read e-mails for a while. She has a problem with horse racing game. When she tries to run the game, jaws freezes, or when she deactivates jaws, the game does not work still. She has installed everything requested for this game, but nothing has happened. Could anyone please help figuring out this problem? Any kind of help would be appreciated. Best regards Maria --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game
that is the same problem that i had with the game myself. so someone tell us what to do. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game
hmmm I have never run it with jaws. tell your friend to run the config for it then set it to sapi. next set a shortcut to it then exit jaws and run it that way. that should work. on that note I have had my net down for a couple weeks myself, not good! At 12:18 a.m. 22/05/2010, you wrote: Greetings, I am asking this question for my friend because she has had her internet connection unavailable for quite long and she has not been able to read e-mails for a while. She has a problem with horse racing game. When she tries to run the game, jaws freezes, or when she deactivates jaws, the game does not work still. She has installed everything requested for this game, but nothing has happened. Could anyone please help figuring out this problem? Any kind of help would be appreciated. Best regards Maria --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game
hey shawn i have done all this myself. but it still won't work. it acts like it going to run but all it does is bring up a window and do nothing. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game
weird. something is mangled somewhere then. not sure what to do. windows needs a good reload or something. issue is there is no actual support since lti is no more. hey shawn i have done all this myself. but it still won't work. it acts like it going to run but all it does is bring up a window and do nothing. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game
Hi Shaun, Actually--JAWS should not be a problem, as thatis how I run it and it works like a charm. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem with horse racing game hmmm I have never run it with jaws. tell your friend to run the config for it then set it to sapi. next set a shortcut to it then exit jaws and run it that way. that should work. on that note I have had my net down for a couple weeks myself, not good! At 12:18 a.m. 22/05/2010, you wrote: Greetings, I am asking this question for my friend because she has had her internet connection unavailable for quite long and she has not been able to read e-mails for a while. She has a problem with horse racing game. When she tries to run the game, jaws freezes, or when she deactivates jaws, the game does not work still. She has installed everything requested for this game, but nothing has happened. Could anyone please help figuring out this problem? Any kind of help would be appreciated. Best regards Maria --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing
well the latest was 3.01. I like the robit voices in orf1 its never crashed. At 05:58 p.m. 22/04/2010, you wrote: I must confess, for all workings with hal I'm a big fan of Orphius' human voices. Fast response time pluss a convincing British English accent. For Sapi stuff I do like realspeak daniel, but it's response time is far too slow for me to use it with Hal. This hasn't always been the case of course. Back in the earlier versions of orphius only the synthetic voices were available and hal sounded a lot like a dalek, which was one reason I tried out win vision and deck talk. Then, Orphius shipped with the more human voices Alan and Carol and I got to be a fan. The only slight irritation is that for some odd reason Dolphins' stopped shipping Hal with the more human orphius voices and now only ships it with the synthetic ones. When I asked they said most people used the synthetic ones, which I found rather odd. Luckily orphius' more human voices are offered as free downloads by Dolphin anyway. I have heard a rumour that the company who make orphius split from dolphin and are now bust, in fact I've been trying to find the latest version of orphius online and not having any luck at all. At least though Dolphin will continue to ship Hal with the currently latest version. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early 90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware synths were the best around. They were the most human sounding you could get on the market, and I fell in love with the Dectalk line of products at that point. When Jaws 3.2 or 3.3 began shipping with Eloquence I totally dispised the synth from day one. Oh, I can use it, but I hate the voice with a passion. However, I've noticed those users who started with Jaws for Windows and Eloquence from the start say Eloquence is great and hate Dectalk. Their opinion is as much a mystery to me as I'm sure my opinion is to them. However, I think it boils down to the fact I started with Dectalk and liked it, and Eloquence never lived upto my expectations. Those who started with Eloquence have their own gripes and complaints about Dectalk. All I can say is different strokes for different folks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing
Well rather you than me on the robot front there sean. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing well the latest was 3.01. I like the robit voices in orf1 its never crashed. At 05:58 p.m. 22/04/2010, you wrote: I must confess, for all workings with hal I'm a big fan of Orphius' human voices. Fast response time pluss a convincing British English accent. For Sapi stuff I do like realspeak daniel, but it's response time is far too slow for me to use it with Hal. This hasn't always been the case of course. Back in the earlier versions of orphius only the synthetic voices were available and hal sounded a lot like a dalek, which was one reason I tried out win vision and deck talk. Then, Orphius shipped with the more human voices Alan and Carol and I got to be a fan. The only slight irritation is that for some odd reason Dolphins' stopped shipping Hal with the more human orphius voices and now only ships it with the synthetic ones. When I asked they said most people used the synthetic ones, which I found rather odd. Luckily orphius' more human voices are offered as free downloads by Dolphin anyway. I have heard a rumour that the company who make orphius split from dolphin and are now bust, in fact I've been trying to find the latest version of orphius online and not having any luck at all. At least though Dolphin will continue to ship Hal with the currently latest version. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early 90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware synths were the best around. They were the most human sounding you could get on the market, and I fell in love with the Dectalk line of products at that point. When Jaws 3.2 or 3.3 began shipping with Eloquence I totally dispised the synth from day one. Oh, I can use it, but I hate the voice with a passion. However, I've noticed those users who started with Jaws for Windows and Eloquence from the start say Eloquence is great and hate Dectalk. Their opinion is as much a mystery to me as I'm sure my opinion is to them. However, I think it boils down to the fact I started with Dectalk and liked it, and Eloquence never lived upto my expectations. Those who started with Eloquence have their own gripes and complaints about Dectalk. All I can say is different strokes for different folks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing
To be onnist, elequnts goes in to talks as well. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 22 April 2010 00:54 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, It's better than many I've tried, some of the intonations are similar to actual English speech; I've never figured out why people like Dektalk, I utterly loath it. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing well eloquence is the blindness shipping product that goes in everything. win eyes, k1000, and even hal now though some like k1000 and gw did have dectalk synths. eloquence is ok for a synth but all the small issues it had in the past. Its also quite robotic and crappy, though as a fast responce synth its good for what it needs to be which is probably why its everywhere. At 07:13 a.m. 22/04/2010, you wrote: Hi, No, it is just simply the fact ever since shipping Eloquence with Jaws they automatically assume that is what all of their customers will use or want to use. Plus for them to purchase the Phonix Dectalk 5 SDK and then write a Jaws driver for it would cost them money, and they don't want to do it. So they suggested Eloquence instead. Which, like I said, totally missed my point I don't very much like Eloquence and want the speed and reliability of Dectalk. Window-Eyes on the other hand ships with the Dectalk software out of the box, and one very huge reason I switched over to them around the 4.0 days. I've always been a fan of the Dectalk products, and when Window Eyes made it the default synth I switched. I only keep Jaws around for odd jobs and things where Window-eyes support could be a little better. Otherwise I have no need of the shark. Smile. On 4/21/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing
Hi Muhammed, It's eloquence, spelled E L O Q U E N C E. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:52 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing To be onnist, elequnts goes in to talks as well. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 22 April 2010 00:54 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, It's better than many I've tried, some of the intonations are similar to actual English speech; I've never figured out why people like Dektalk, I utterly loath it. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing well eloquence is the blindness shipping product that goes in everything. win eyes, k1000, and even hal now though some like k1000 and gw did have dectalk synths. eloquence is ok for a synth but all the small issues it had in the past. Its also quite robotic and crappy, though as a fast responce synth its good for what it needs to be which is probably why its everywhere. At 07:13 a.m. 22/04/2010, you wrote: Hi, No, it is just simply the fact ever since shipping Eloquence with Jaws they automatically assume that is what all of their customers will use or want to use. Plus for them to purchase the Phonix Dectalk 5 SDK and then write a Jaws driver for it would cost them money, and they don't want to do it. So they suggested Eloquence instead. Which, like I said, totally missed my point I don't very much like Eloquence and want the speed and reliability of Dectalk. Window-Eyes on the other hand ships with the Dectalk software out of the box, and one very huge reason I switched over to them around the 4.0 days. I've always been a fan of the Dectalk products, and when Window Eyes made it the default synth I switched. I only keep Jaws around for odd jobs and things where Window-eyes support could be a little better. Otherwise I have no need of the shark. Smile. On 4/21/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing
I must confess I do agreee, Now that I've got scansoft daniel, sapi for games, even highly complex ones like entombed or time of conflict works great. Then again it seems heavily dependent upon voice. That was one of the chief reasons the screen reader speech business got added to Entombed, because the default sapi voices are so completely horrible as compared to the proprietory ones which Hal, jaws etc use, and honestly I can't blame people for that. I stil have a laugh with my friends remembering the occasion when they turned up while I was in the shower, and I yelled instructions at them to set up a game of kitchinsinc life on my desktop and turn up the volume so I could here it in my bathroom. unfortunately, that was back before I could even get ms mike or Mary working and was stuck with microsoft Sam. You may play the markit if you own stck, but you daaan't! So ultimately it's a case of you may play the sapi if you have a good voice, but you dnt! ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Actually Sapi and Hal let me do that pretty well, in fact I've quite often been known to flick Hal's voice back on, read E-mails then flick back to entombed and turn the voice off, especially if I come up against something wonky in the game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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As I said Bryan, I've been doing this in Hal for ages, in games or indeed when watching dvd's sinse I can just flick Hal's voice off and use the standard power dvd shortcuts on my computer just like buttons on a standard dvd player without Hal providing any issues. It's probably okay when you get used to it, but this keyboard snagging and unloading business with Jaws personally always struck me as a mighty big pain in the backside. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing That's one thing I like about Window-Eyes. It can still be running when a game is in progress because it doesn't monopolize the keyboard the way JFW does. And you don't even have to modify either the game or the screen reader for this to work the way you often do with JAWS. I used to unload my screen reader out of habit even after switching to WE. Then one afternoon I went to play a game of Classic Pipe and for whatever reason I forgot to unload Window-Eyes. I wasn't even aware of this until after I'd quit the game. Window-Eyes neither spoke nor caused any key conflicts. If I'd tried that with JAWS I'd have been lucky to pass the first level. And if someone messages me I can switch over and reply without disrupting the game, not that I make a habit of that. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers
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It's like I've said before. I wish I still had the file I created two years ago of the suicidal Microsoft Sam. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I must confess I do agreee, Now that I've got scansoft daniel, sapi for games, even highly complex ones like entombed or time of conflict works great. Then again it seems heavily dependent upon voice. That was one of the chief reasons the screen reader speech business got added to Entombed, because the default sapi voices are so completely horrible as compared to the proprietory ones which Hal, jaws etc use, and honestly I can't blame people for that. I stil have a laugh with my friends remembering the occasion when they turned up while I was in the shower, and I yelled instructions at them to set up a game of kitchinsinc life on my desktop and turn up the volume so I could here it in my bathroom. unfortunately, that was back before I could even get ms mike or Mary working and was stuck with microsoft Sam. You may play the markit if you own stck, but you daaan't! So ultimately it's a case of you may play the sapi if you have a good voice, but you dnt! ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I know. That's one of the biggest reasons I finally just dumped JAWS in favor of Window-Eyes. Granted I didn't know that then but now that I do... He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing As I said Bryan, I've been doing this in Hal for ages, in games or indeed when watching dvd's sinse I can just flick Hal's voice off and use the standard power dvd shortcuts on my computer just like buttons on a standard dvd player without Hal providing any issues. It's probably okay when you get used to it, but this keyboard snagging and unloading business with Jaws personally always struck me as a mighty big pain in the backside. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing That's one thing I like about Window-Eyes. It can still be running when a game is in progress because it doesn't monopolize the keyboard the way JFW does. And you don't even have to modify either the game or the screen reader for this to work the way you often do with JAWS. I used to unload my screen reader out of habit even after switching to WE. Then one afternoon I went to play a game of Classic Pipe and for whatever reason I forgot to unload Window-Eyes. I wasn't even aware of this until after I'd quit the game. Window-Eyes neither spoke nor caused any key conflicts. If I'd tried that with JAWS I'd have been lucky to pass the first level. And if someone messages me I can switch over and reply without disrupting the game, not that I make a habit of that. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail
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Jaws is cool! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 05:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing That's one thing I like about Window-Eyes. It can still be running when a game is in progress because it doesn't monopolize the keyboard the way JFW does. And you don't even have to modify either the game or the screen reader for this to work the way you often do with JAWS. I used to unload my screen reader out of habit even after switching to WE. Then one afternoon I went to play a game of Classic Pipe and for whatever reason I forgot to unload Window-Eyes. I wasn't even aware of this until after I'd quit the game. Window-Eyes neither spoke nor caused any key conflicts. If I'd tried that with JAWS I'd have been lucky to pass the first level. And if someone messages me I can switch over and reply without disrupting the game, not that I make a habit of that. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
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Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration manager in jaws, then I could go to advantsed options by hitting ault s then selecting that option. Then I could set it to go to sleep when I want it to. And I could set it not to go to sleep. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 21 April 2010 04:32 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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You could also turn off hal by pressing the control and the 0 key. I haven't used hal for a while, because that was on my brothers win 98 desktop but no one uses that desktop anymore. That's why jaws is good, because you could do anything you want. I use to use hal back in when I was 9 or 8 maybe 7 or 6. But thank goodness I could use this win 7 dude now. I think it had something like msn messenger but I thought it was saying well when I was very small and when I turned it off, zoice off instead of voice off. I must really say I hate hal and that windows 98 computer because it was freezing every 5 minutes. Off corse, I didn't have much of a computer nollige then. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 April 2010 08:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Actually Sapi and Hal let me do that pretty well, in fact I've quite often been known to flick Hal's voice back on, read E-mails then flick back to entombed and turn the voice off, especially if I come up against something wonky in the game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org
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i disagree about jaws. i love system access because it is the only program that will let you use julie which is a realistic voice. with sapi you can download paul which is a realistic voice. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well that's a matter of personal opinion. I happen to not like JAWS because of how it monopolizes the keyboard, not to mention a whole host of other issues I could spend all day listing if I so chose but won't. I just happen to like how you can if necessarily leave Window-Eyes running while playing a game and not have it interfere with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Jaws is cool! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 05:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing That's one thing I like about Window-Eyes. It can still be running when a game is in progress because it doesn't monopolize the keyboard the way JFW does. And you don't even have to modify either the game or the screen reader for this to work the way you often do with JAWS. I used to unload my screen reader out of habit even after switching to WE. Then one afternoon I went to play a game of Classic Pipe and for whatever reason I forgot to unload Window-Eyes. I wasn't even aware of this until after I'd quit the game. Window-Eyes neither spoke nor caused any key conflicts. If I'd tried that with JAWS I'd have been lucky to pass the first level. And if someone messages me I can switch over and reply without disrupting the game, not that I make a habit of that. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com
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See with Window-Eyes you don't even have to do that much, unless a keystroke in the game would conflict with a Window-Eyes keystroke. And it's easy to modify hotkeys so they don't interfere. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration manager in jaws, then I could go to advantsed options by hitting ault s then selecting that option. Then I could set it to go to sleep when I want it to. And I could set it not to go to sleep. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 21 April 2010 04:32 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail
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Window-Eyes lets you use most SAPI voices including the NeoSpeech ones. JAWS doesn't let you use those, and heaven forbid you should ask FS tech support to help you get that to work. That's another thing Inever liked about JAWS. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing i disagree about jaws. i love system access because it is the only program that will let you use julie which is a realistic voice. with sapi you can download paul which is a realistic voice. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well obviously, the quality if your computer doesn't have anything to do with what screen reader your using at all. I first learnt It skills and typing on an absolutely horrible old monster of a thing running windows 3.1 with a copy of Hal version 3 on it. That machine locked up every session and had no harddrive space whatsoever, and that was in 1995, however it was deffinately the machine that was off, and when I switched to using a better quality laptop problems didn't come up at all. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing You could also turn off hal by pressing the control and the 0 key. I haven't used hal for a while, because that was on my brothers win 98 desktop but no one uses that desktop anymore. That's why jaws is good, because you could do anything you want. I use to use hal back in when I was 9 or 8 maybe 7 or 6. But thank goodness I could use this win 7 dude now. I think it had something like msn messenger but I thought it was saying well when I was very small and when I turned it off, zoice off instead of voice off. I must really say I hate hal and that windows 98 computer because it was freezing every 5 minutes. Off corse, I didn't have much of a computer nollige then. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 April 2010 08:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Actually Sapi and Hal let me do that pretty well, in fact I've quite often been known to flick Hal's voice back on, read E-mails then flick back to entombed and turn the voice off, especially if I come up against something wonky in the game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
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Well I think, you could create a function by jaws scripting. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 17:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing See with Window-Eyes you don't even have to do that much, unless a keystroke in the game would conflict with a Window-Eyes keystroke. And it's easy to modify hotkeys so they don't interfere. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration manager in jaws, then I could go to advantsed options by hitting ault s then selecting that option. Then I could set it to go to sleep when I want it to. And I could set it not to go to sleep. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 21 April 2010 04:32 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
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I'm sure you could, but that's the point. You don't even have to do that with Window-Eyes. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Well I think, you could create a function by jaws scripting. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 17:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing See with Window-Eyes you don't even have to do that much, unless a keystroke in the game would conflict with a Window-Eyes keystroke. And it's easy to modify hotkeys so they don't interfere. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration manager in jaws, then I could go to advantsed options by hitting ault s then selecting that option. Then I could set it to go to sleep when I want it to. And I could set it not to go to sleep. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 21 April 2010 04:32 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org
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Hi Bryan, Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow view of the world that's for sure. I remember calling them about wanting to support the Dectalk 5 Software produced by Phonix. They are like, Why do you want to do that? Everybody uses Eloquence. There is no need to support the Dectalk software. I suggest you use Eloquence instead. It seams whoever answered my call has a massive shortage of brain power. Perhaps I wanted to use the Dectalk software because I like it, because contrary to his view not everybody likes Eloquence, and not everyone with half a brain wants to use it. It is very insulting to call up a tech support person and be told that the company sees my request as not worth their time. Then, to suggest that maybe I should use Eloquence instead because everybody else uses it. That's totally missing the point of my call. So I'm sure if I called them about Neospeech Kate or Paul their response wouldn't be too much different. They seriously have a bad attitude about their customers wants, needs, and opinions. So Jaws isn't worth my time, and several others. That is one reason I went to Window-Eyes several years back. Smile. On 4/21/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Window-Eyes lets you use most SAPI voices including the NeoSpeech ones. JAWS doesn't let you use those, and heaven forbid you should ask FS tech support to help you get that to work. That's another thing Inever liked about JAWS. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Yeah. And I bet if you asked them to help you configure a game you were developing to work with JAWS their response would be the same. JAWS wasn't meant to be used to play games! or somesuch nonsense. I'll freely admit I use Eloquence more than the other voices I have but only because it has the highest response rate of any synthe I've ever used. I wouldn't bother with it at all but for that. And I absolutely refuse to use it in audio games if I can help it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Bryan, Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow view of the world that's for sure. I remember calling them about wanting to support the Dectalk 5 Software produced by Phonix. They are like, Why do you want to do that? Everybody uses Eloquence. There is no need to support the Dectalk software. I suggest you use Eloquence instead. It seams whoever answered my call has a massive shortage of brain power. Perhaps I wanted to use the Dectalk software because I like it, because contrary to his view not everybody likes Eloquence, and not everyone with half a brain wants to use it. It is very insulting to call up a tech support person and be told that the company sees my request as not worth their time. Then, to suggest that maybe I should use Eloquence instead because everybody else uses it. That's totally missing the point of my call. So I'm sure if I called them about Neospeech Kate or Paul their response wouldn't be too much different. They seriously have a bad attitude about their customers wants, needs, and opinions. So Jaws isn't worth my time, and several others. That is one reason I went to Window-Eyes several years back. Smile. On 4/21/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Window-Eyes lets you use most SAPI voices including the NeoSpeech ones. JAWS doesn't let you use those, and heaven forbid you should ask FS tech support to help you get that to work. That's another thing Inever liked about JAWS. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 21 April 2010 19:58 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Bryan, Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow view of the world that's for sure. I remember calling them about wanting to support the Dectalk 5 Software produced by Phonix. They are like, Why do you want to do that? Everybody uses Eloquence. There is no need to support the Dectalk software. I suggest you use Eloquence instead. It seams whoever answered my call has a massive shortage of brain power. Perhaps I wanted to use the Dectalk software because I like it, because contrary to his view not everybody likes Eloquence, and not everyone with half a brain wants to use it. It is very insulting to call up a tech support person and be told that the company sees my request as not worth their time. Then, to suggest that maybe I should use Eloquence instead because everybody else uses it. That's totally missing the point of my call. So I'm sure if I called them about Neospeech Kate or Paul their response wouldn't be too much different. They seriously have a bad attitude about their customers wants, needs, and opinions. So Jaws isn't worth my time, and several others. That is one reason I went to Window-Eyes several years back. Smile. On 4/21/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Window-Eyes lets you use most SAPI voices including the NeoSpeech ones. JAWS doesn't let you use those, and heaven forbid you should ask FS tech support to help you get that to work. That's another thing Inever liked about JAWS. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Muhammed, As Bryan said earlier with Window-Eyes most of the time you don't even have to put the screen reader to sleep with most games. In fact, when I'm doing all of my testing I have Window-Eyes running in the background to catch any popup error messages etc while I'm playing. With Jaws 11 the keys won't work and the game locks up unless I put it to sleep or unload it. That makes it less than useful for a game developer, and a royal pain in the tail. On 4/21/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration manager in jaws, then I could go to advantsed options by hitting ault s then selecting that option. Then I could set it to go to sleep when I want it to. And I could set it not to go to sleep. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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There was no need to be rude or condescending about it though. A company like that really needs pay more attention to their customers' wants and needs. That's probably why a lot of people who make the switch from JAWS do it in the first place. And there are things that, say, Window-Eyes does that, while JAWS might do the same things, Window-Eyes does better. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 21 April 2010 19:58 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Bryan, Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow view of the world that's for sure. I remember calling them about wanting to support the Dectalk 5 Software produced by Phonix. They are like, Why do you want to do that? Everybody uses Eloquence. There is no need to support the Dectalk software. I suggest you use Eloquence instead. It seams whoever answered my call has a massive shortage of brain power. Perhaps I wanted to use the Dectalk software because I like it, because contrary to his view not everybody likes Eloquence, and not everyone with half a brain wants to use it. It is very insulting to call up a tech support person and be told that the company sees my request as not worth their time. Then, to suggest that maybe I should use Eloquence instead because everybody else uses it. That's totally missing the point of my call. So I'm sure if I called them about Neospeech Kate or Paul their response wouldn't be too much different. They seriously have a bad attitude about their customers wants, needs, and opinions. So Jaws isn't worth my time, and several others. That is one reason I went to Window-Eyes several years back. Smile. On 4/21/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Window-Eyes lets you use most SAPI voices including the NeoSpeech ones. JAWS doesn't let you use those, and heaven forbid you should ask FS tech support to help you get that to work. That's another thing Inever liked about JAWS. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, No, it is just simply the fact ever since shipping Eloquence with Jaws they automatically assume that is what all of their customers will use or want to use. Plus for them to purchase the Phonix Dectalk 5 SDK and then write a Jaws driver for it would cost them money, and they don't want to do it. So they suggested Eloquence instead. Which, like I said, totally missed my point I don't very much like Eloquence and want the speed and reliability of Dectalk. Window-Eyes on the other hand ships with the Dectalk software out of the box, and one very huge reason I switched over to them around the 4.0 days. I've always been a fan of the Dectalk products, and when Window Eyes made it the default synth I switched. I only keep Jaws around for odd jobs and things where Window-eyes support could be a little better. Otherwise I have no need of the shark. Smile. On 4/21/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas, I thought this. Ring Jorje Bell and it should be fine. His a computer technition I think. He helps us with all of hour problems. Off cource if we really need help and he can't help, then we ring tech support. If they're like that, I'd like to prank call them, hehehe. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 21 April 2010 20:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing There was no need to be rude or condescending about it though. A company like that really needs pay more attention to their customers' wants and needs. That's probably why a lot of people who make the switch from JAWS do it in the first place. And there are things that, say, Window-Eyes does that, while JAWS might do the same things, Window-Eyes does better. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 21 April 2010 19:58 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Bryan, Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow view of the world that's for sure. I remember calling them about wanting to support the Dectalk 5 Software produced by Phonix. They are like, Why do you want to do that? Everybody uses Eloquence. There is no need to support the Dectalk software. I suggest you use Eloquence instead. It seams whoever answered my call has a massive shortage of brain power. Perhaps I wanted to use the Dectalk software because I like it, because contrary to his view not everybody likes Eloquence, and not everyone with half a brain wants to use it. It is very insulting to call up a tech support person and be told that the company sees my request as not worth their time. Then, to suggest that maybe I should use Eloquence instead because everybody else uses it. That's totally missing the point of my call. So I'm sure if I called them about Neospeech Kate or Paul their response wouldn't be too much different. They seriously have a bad attitude about their customers wants, needs, and opinions. So Jaws isn't worth my time, and several others. That is one reason I went to Window-Eyes several years back. Smile. On 4/21/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Window-Eyes lets you use most SAPI voices including the NeoSpeech ones. JAWS doesn't let you use those, and heaven forbid you should ask FS tech support to help you get that to work. That's another thing Inever liked about JAWS. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam
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that is why i don't care for crap for windows. that is what i call jaws. if you want a good screen reader then go with system access. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I wasn't a fan of System Access. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing that is why i don't care for crap for windows. that is what i call jaws. if you want a good screen reader then go with system access. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It's interesting all the good stuff thae Tom and Bryan have listed about Window eyes also applies to Hal, even the tech support business and ability to use Sapi synths as speech output. I even stil use orphius for the same reason That Bryan uses eloquence, the response time is so fast, in fact it's the only synth I've seen that can keep up with my usual typing speed even set on word echo. I do rather wonder if Jaws's idio syncracies, inability to flick streight off, keyboard shinanigans etc are the exception, rather than the rule. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Muhammed, As Bryan said earlier with Window-Eyes most of the time you don't even have to put the screen reader to sleep with most games. In fact, when I'm doing all of my testing I have Window-Eyes running in the background to catch any popup error messages etc while I'm playing. With Jaws 11 the keys won't work and the game locks up unless I put it to sleep or unload it. That makes it less than useful for a game developer, and a royal pain in the tail. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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man i would like to play the game. but because of the problem i'm having i can't. like i have said before i have all the requirements and i have done the stuff like folks have say. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I still use hal though mine is grosly out dated now. I have not seen any reason to switch though even though I could if i cared to have the guts its the same with win xp apart from the security aspects I will have to spend loads of cash to upgrade hal and jaws and with jaws looks I'd need to pay more to get vpc mode. So all in all not upgrading to something I don't need including any ie over 6 is something I doubt I'd bother with. secure yes but clutter when I don't need it. At 04:12 a.m. 22/04/2010, you wrote: You could also turn off hal by pressing the control and the 0 key. I haven't used hal for a while, because that was on my brothers win 98 desktop but no one uses that desktop anymore. That's why jaws is good, because you could do anything you want. I use to use hal back in when I was 9 or 8 maybe 7 or 6. But thank goodness I could use this win 7 dude now. I think it had something like msn messenger but I thought it was saying well when I was very small and when I turned it off, zoice off instead of voice off. I must really say I hate hal and that windows 98 computer because it was freezing every 5 minutes. Off corse, I didn't have much of a computer nollige then. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 April 2010 08:06 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Actually Sapi and Hal let me do that pretty well, in fact I've quite often been known to flick Hal's voice back on, read E-mails then flick back to entombed and turn the voice off, especially if I come up against something wonky in the game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail
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well one reason I still like hal for games is you can turn the voice and hotkeys off. the reader is still loaded but its not doing any intercepts. doesn't mean it could crash but it does mean when you are done you can switch it back in. trouble is its easy to forget. At 07:05 a.m. 22/04/2010, you wrote: Hi Muhammed, As Bryan said earlier with Window-Eyes most of the time you don't even have to put the screen reader to sleep with most games. In fact, when I'm doing all of my testing I have Window-Eyes running in the background to catch any popup error messages etc while I'm playing. With Jaws 11 the keys won't work and the game locks up unless I put it to sleep or unload it. That makes it less than useful for a game developer, and a royal pain in the tail. On 4/21/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration manager in jaws, then I could go to advantsed options by hitting ault s then selecting that option. Then I could set it to go to sleep when I want it to. And I could set it not to go to sleep. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well eloquence is the blindness shipping product that goes in everything. win eyes, k1000, and even hal now though some like k1000 and gw did have dectalk synths. eloquence is ok for a synth but all the small issues it had in the past. Its also quite robotic and crappy, though as a fast responce synth its good for what it needs to be which is probably why its everywhere. At 07:13 a.m. 22/04/2010, you wrote: Hi, No, it is just simply the fact ever since shipping Eloquence with Jaws they automatically assume that is what all of their customers will use or want to use. Plus for them to purchase the Phonix Dectalk 5 SDK and then write a Jaws driver for it would cost them money, and they don't want to do it. So they suggested Eloquence instead. Which, like I said, totally missed my point I don't very much like Eloquence and want the speed and reliability of Dectalk. Window-Eyes on the other hand ships with the Dectalk software out of the box, and one very huge reason I switched over to them around the 4.0 days. I've always been a fan of the Dectalk products, and when Window Eyes made it the default synth I switched. I only keep Jaws around for odd jobs and things where Window-eyes support could be a little better. Otherwise I have no need of the shark. Smile. On 4/21/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Based on my personal experience here Jaws is definitely the exception not the rule. Right now I have Window-Eyes 7.11 and the latest version of NVDA on my system and neither one has a problem being run in the background with a game. I've used both of them with MOTA beta 12 with no conflicts at all. I would assume that Hal will similarly have no problems. With the Jaws 11 demo the game's keyboard input locks up every time. There is obviously something in Jaws that conflicts with DirectInput and will not release keyboard control to the application when it has focus. Despite having told FS about this problem over and over again for years it goes in one ear and out the other. All their so-called tech support says is to put Jaws to sleep, but once again they consistantly overlook the obvious. I don't have to do this with Window-Eyes or NVDA. Why do Jaws users have to put up with this behavior from Jaws when clearly it is a Jaws issue and not a screen reader issue? On 4/21/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: It's interesting all the good stuff thae Tom and Bryan have listed about Window eyes also applies to Hal, even the tech support business and ability to use Sapi synths as speech output. I even stil use orphius for the same reason That Bryan uses eloquence, the response time is so fast, in fact it's the only synth I've seen that can keep up with my usual typing speed even set on word echo. I do rather wonder if Jaws's idio syncracies, inability to flick streight off, keyboard shinanigans etc are the exception, rather than the rule. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Exactly. There are, however rare they might be, times when it isn't necessarily practical to put your screenr eader to sleep even while gaming. A game developer testing his product is just a case in point. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Dark, Based on my personal experience here Jaws is definitely the exception not the rule. Right now I have Window-Eyes 7.11 and the latest version of NVDA on my system and neither one has a problem being run in the background with a game. I've used both of them with MOTA beta 12 with no conflicts at all. I would assume that Hal will similarly have no problems. With the Jaws 11 demo the game's keyboard input locks up every time. There is obviously something in Jaws that conflicts with DirectInput and will not release keyboard control to the application when it has focus. Despite having told FS about this problem over and over again for years it goes in one ear and out the other. All their so-called tech support says is to put Jaws to sleep, but once again they consistantly overlook the obvious. I don't have to do this with Window-Eyes or NVDA. Why do Jaws users have to put up with this behavior from Jaws when clearly it is a Jaws issue and not a screen reader issue? On 4/21/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: It's interesting all the good stuff thae Tom and Bryan have listed about Window eyes also applies to Hal, even the tech support business and ability to use Sapi synths as speech output. I even stil use orphius for the same reason That Bryan uses eloquence, the response time is so fast, in fact it's the only synth I've seen that can keep up with my usual typing speed even set on word echo. I do rather wonder if Jaws's idio syncracies, inability to flick streight off, keyboard shinanigans etc are the exception, rather than the rule. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I think what surprises me about screen readers though is the way that people tned to assume because jaws does something it's universal. I've seen a good few games which say unload your screen reader where in actual fact your screen reader just means jaws and it's irritated key shortcut business, and window eyes, system access and Hal don't need to do this at all. The only sad thing is Jaws is so often presented as the only system available, people do assume that it's the only workable solution and don't considder alternatives. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Actually Bryan, having to put a screen reader to sleep while running games or other programs would down right annoy me. When writing up material for audiogames.net I quite commonly load up a game to check basic info such as keys or main menue options and flick out of the game to write stuff down, then flick back. I also do this frequently when error reporting or testing as well, or indeed when I just feel the need to check my mail and am too lazy to stop playing, say, in the middle of a long entombed game (which obviously I run with sapi). Maybe I've just become too used to the option, but not having it there would be a major pest. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Exactly. There are, however rare they might be, times when it isn't necessarily practical to put your screenr eader to sleep even while gaming. A game developer testing his product is just a case in point. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Dark, Based on my personal experience here Jaws is definitely the exception not the rule. Right now I have Window-Eyes 7.11 and the latest version of NVDA on my system and neither one has a problem being run in the background with a game. I've used both of them with MOTA beta 12 with no conflicts at all. I would assume that Hal will similarly have no problems. With the Jaws 11 demo the game's keyboard input locks up every time. There is obviously something in Jaws that conflicts with DirectInput and will not release keyboard control to the application when it has focus. Despite having told FS about this problem over and over again for years it goes in one ear and out the other. All their so-called tech support says is to put Jaws to sleep, but once again they consistantly overlook the obvious. I don't have to do this with Window-Eyes or NVDA. Why do Jaws users have to put up with this behavior from Jaws when clearly it is a Jaws issue and not a screen reader issue? On 4/21/10, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: It's interesting all the good stuff thae Tom and Bryan have listed about Window eyes also applies to Hal, even the tech support business and ability to use Sapi synths as speech output. I even stil use orphius for the same reason That Bryan uses eloquence, the response time is so fast, in fact it's the only synth I've seen that can keep up with my usual typing speed even set on word echo. I do rather wonder if Jaws's idio syncracies, inability to flick streight off, keyboard shinanigans etc are the exception, rather than the rule. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Exactly Dark. That's the only reason I was such a staunch JAWS user for ten years. And the only other option I did experiment with was OutSpoken, the first screen reader for Mac. And to be quite honest I absolutely hated that. But the reason, at least here in the US, that so many people support JAWS is that state agencies for the blind are contractually obligated by FS to teach their clients JAWS. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I think what surprises me about screen readers though is the way that people tned to assume because jaws does something it's universal. I've seen a good few games which say unload your screen reader where in actual fact your screen reader just means jaws and it's irritated key shortcut business, and window eyes, system access and Hal don't need to do this at all. The only sad thing is Jaws is so often presented as the only system available, people do assume that it's the only workable solution and don't considder alternatives. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well, that does happen in this country as well sadly. I'm not sure why my secondary school began with hal, - maybe things were different in the early 90's, pluss my brother already had a very good relationship with dolphin anyway and was a major fan of luna as a magnifyer. After some experimentation, I did try win vision briefly at one point, which was able to give amazingly fast response with decktalk thanks to a hardware synthesisor box, - which proceeded to break down completely within six months of me using it, at which point I was given a copy of supernova to be going on with, and it actually turned out the stuff which had attracted me to trying win vision in the first place was quite doable with a more up to date version of Hal than the one I'd been used to previously. I did experiment with jaws for a few days on a computer at a society for the blind in Nottingham, more for interest sake than anything else. The profound difficulty in changing basic settings such as reading of capitals I found quite irritating. At the time I believed this was because I was unfamiliar with Jaws, now though i actually wonder if it's just that (as Tom has said), jaws doesn't really make altering settings too easy anyway. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Exactly Dark. That's the only reason I was such a staunch JAWS user for ten years. And the only other option I did experiment with was OutSpoken, the first screen reader for Mac. And to be quite honest I absolutely hated that. But the reason, at least here in the US, that so many people support JAWS is that state agencies for the blind are contractually obligated by FS to teach their clients JAWS. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing I think what surprises me about screen readers though is the way that people tned to assume because jaws does something it's universal. I've seen a good few games which say unload your screen reader where in actual fact your screen reader just means jaws and it's irritated key shortcut business, and window eyes, system access and Hal don't need to do this at all. The only sad thing is Jaws is so often presented as the only system available, people do assume that it's the only workable solution and don't considder alternatives. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, It's better than many I've tried, some of the intonations are similar to actual English speech; I've never figured out why people like Dektalk, I utterly loath it. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing well eloquence is the blindness shipping product that goes in everything. win eyes, k1000, and even hal now though some like k1000 and gw did have dectalk synths. eloquence is ok for a synth but all the small issues it had in the past. Its also quite robotic and crappy, though as a fast responce synth its good for what it needs to be which is probably why its everywhere. At 07:13 a.m. 22/04/2010, you wrote: Hi, No, it is just simply the fact ever since shipping Eloquence with Jaws they automatically assume that is what all of their customers will use or want to use. Plus for them to purchase the Phonix Dectalk 5 SDK and then write a Jaws driver for it would cost them money, and they don't want to do it. So they suggested Eloquence instead. Which, like I said, totally missed my point I don't very much like Eloquence and want the speed and reliability of Dectalk. Window-Eyes on the other hand ships with the Dectalk software out of the box, and one very huge reason I switched over to them around the 4.0 days. I've always been a fan of the Dectalk products, and when Window Eyes made it the default synth I switched. I only keep Jaws around for odd jobs and things where Window-eyes support could be a little better. Otherwise I have no need of the shark. Smile. On 4/21/10, Muhammed Deniz muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote: I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why they may of said that to you. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Muhammed, One advantage with HAL (and I can say this just based on what dark has said) is that you can easily turn off most of it with control 8. I've always found it a apin to have to go into configuration manager and put it to sleep; I just unload it before launching the game. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Muhammed Deniz Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:41 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration manager in jaws, then I could go to advantsed options by hitting ault s then selecting that option. Then I could set it to go to sleep when I want it to. And I could set it not to go to sleep. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 21 April 2010 04:32 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo
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Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early 90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware synths were the best around. They were the most human sounding you could get on the market, and I fell in love with the Dectalk line of products at that point. When Jaws 3.2 or 3.3 began shipping with Eloquence I totally dispised the synth from day one. Oh, I can use it, but I hate the voice with a passion. However, I've noticed those users who started with Jaws for Windows and Eloquence from the start say Eloquence is great and hate Dectalk. Their opinion is as much a mystery to me as I'm sure my opinion is to them. However, I think it boils down to the fact I started with Dectalk and liked it, and Eloquence never lived upto my expectations. Those who started with Eloquence have their own gripes and complaints about Dectalk. All I can say is different strokes for different folks. On 4/21/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, It's better than many I've tried, some of the intonations are similar to actual English speech; I've never figured out why people like Dektalk, I utterly loath it. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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with system access they give real voices out now. like i have julie on my computer. she sound like a real woman. matter of fact you can't get naru julie from any other screen reader. so try the trial and play with julie voice. and you all will see a big different in the speech. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Michael, There are more than one factor that determines a good synthesizer. Sure, making them sound realiitic is important, but let's not forget intonation, inflections, and speed; those are all very important factors to consider. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing with system access they give real voices out now. like i have julie on my computer. she sound like a real woman. matter of fact you can't get naru julie from any other screen reader. so try the trial and play with julie voice. and you all will see a big different in the speech. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas, Good point; I myself was one of those who started with eloquence, so yes, I can definitely see your point. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early 90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware synths were the best around. They were the most human sounding you could get on the market, and I fell in love with the Dectalk line of products at that point. When Jaws 3.2 or 3.3 began shipping with Eloquence I totally dispised the synth from day one. Oh, I can use it, but I hate the voice with a passion. However, I've noticed those users who started with Jaws for Windows and Eloquence from the start say Eloquence is great and hate Dectalk. Their opinion is as much a mystery to me as I'm sure my opinion is to them. However, I think it boils down to the fact I started with Dectalk and liked it, and Eloquence never lived upto my expectations. Those who started with Eloquence have their own gripes and complaints about Dectalk. All I can say is different strokes for different folks. On 4/21/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, It's better than many I've tried, some of the intonations are similar to actual English speech; I've never figured out why people like Dektalk, I utterly loath it. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I must confess, for all workings with hal I'm a big fan of Orphius' human voices. Fast response time pluss a convincing British English accent. For Sapi stuff I do like realspeak daniel, but it's response time is far too slow for me to use it with Hal. This hasn't always been the case of course. Back in the earlier versions of orphius only the synthetic voices were available and hal sounded a lot like a dalek, which was one reason I tried out win vision and deck talk. Then, Orphius shipped with the more human voices Alan and Carol and I got to be a fan. The only slight irritation is that for some odd reason Dolphins' stopped shipping Hal with the more human orphius voices and now only ships it with the synthetic ones. When I asked they said most people used the synthetic ones, which I found rather odd. Luckily orphius' more human voices are offered as free downloads by Dolphin anyway. I have heard a rumour that the company who make orphius split from dolphin and are now bust, in fact I've been trying to find the latest version of orphius online and not having any luck at all. At least though Dolphin will continue to ship Hal with the currently latest version. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi Hayden, I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early 90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware synths were the best around. They were the most human sounding you could get on the market, and I fell in love with the Dectalk line of products at that point. When Jaws 3.2 or 3.3 began shipping with Eloquence I totally dispised the synth from day one. Oh, I can use it, but I hate the voice with a passion. However, I've noticed those users who started with Jaws for Windows and Eloquence from the start say Eloquence is great and hate Dectalk. Their opinion is as much a mystery to me as I'm sure my opinion is to them. However, I think it boils down to the fact I started with Dectalk and liked it, and Eloquence never lived upto my expectations. Those who started with Eloquence have their own gripes and complaints about Dectalk. All I can say is different strokes for different folks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] problem with horse racing
ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing
Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing
Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing
That's one thing I like about Window-Eyes. It can still be running when a game is in progress because it doesn't monopolize the keyboard the way JFW does. And you don't even have to modify either the game or the screen reader for this to work the way you often do with JAWS. I used to unload my screen reader out of habit even after switching to WE. Then one afternoon I went to play a game of Classic Pipe and for whatever reason I forgot to unload Window-Eyes. I wasn't even aware of this until after I'd quit the game. Window-Eyes neither spoke nor caused any key conflicts. If I'd tried that with JAWS I'd have been lucky to pass the first level. And if someone messages me I can switch over and reply without disrupting the game, not that I make a habit of that. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Really? I am the other way around. Plus it means I can multy task--if someone Messages me while I am playing entombed I can just switch over and read. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Some people don't like JAWS though. I'm one of them. I prefer Sapi in my games anyway if it's a choice between that and the screen reader. I can never get the timing quite right between the action and the screen reader's speech. So I don't bother with it. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle of ggh. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing Hi, Don't use SAPI--ue JAWS. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of michael barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:51 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] problem with horse racing ok evryone who has suggest a couple of stuff. i have all the requirements to run the game. someone had said to turn on sapi. but i don't no what they mean by that. i had a sighted person to look at my screen and they said the game act like it wants to load but nothing happen. i would like to play this game can someone help? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org
[Audyssey] problem with horse racing
y'all talk about the screen reader part of the game. but when i go into the game i don't have my screen reader runing. hayden you had said something about sapi being turn on. what do you mean by this? because i always thought it was on. like i said before the game window comes up and it acts like it wants to load but it don't do anything. so what can i do? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
