Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
hmmm But what does that say about his later envolvement. He became something else. In fact before vador struck him he had already gone, so was he able to go to whatever when he wanted anyway and if vador killed him could actually stay there or just go and have no reason to return. Depending on what you acutally listen to, the actual stories or npr, depending on what you here there are 2 versions. At 11:55 a.m. 8/05/2011, you wrote: Hi, Maybe. Its more likely that Obi-Wan was just to old to fight as effectively as he did in Revenge of the Sith. Remember 19 years had passed between Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars A New Hope. Obi-Wan looked to be in his 60's or 70's by the time he met Vader again, and he was probably physically weaker and slower than Vader, or he chose to let himself get killed for reason x. Plus by the time A New Hope had come along Anakin had fully become Darth Vader and probably had learned a lot more about the dark side of the force than he did 19 years previously. If you ask me the reason Luke Skywalker managed to fight and eventually defeat Vader had nothing to do with skills or powers, but Vader's emotional weakness. Say what you will about Darth Vader he had really and truly loved Padme. That made him unable to kill his only son, and his daughter as well. That emotional bond, although distant, was enough to make him hold back and not fight as effectively as he perhaps could have. As it turns out in Return of the Jedi when Palpatine is trying to kill Luke it was Darth Vader who grabs Palpatine by the throat and tosses him into the reactor core. Apparently Vader's love for his son was greater than the dark side and any loyalty he had to Palpatine. It is apparent as early as Empire Strikes Back that Anakin, Darth Vader, secretly hated Palpatine. In Revenge of the Sith, of course, we find out why. Palpatine told Anakin if he turned to the dark side that he'd insure Padme didn't die, but of course she does die and Anakin goes into emotional melt down. Finding out that he had two children who were alive and well went a long way to bring Anakin back from the dark side and why he turned on Palpatine and threw him head long into the Deathstar's reactor core. Cheers! On 5/7/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Yeah, I know. Funny how he managed to do it once but couldn't twice. I can only assume he had some kind of tutalidge from Palpatine. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. At 12:03 p.m. 8/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Clement, Right. Grevous's reflexes were better than average, but nowhere near a Jedi's. In one of the Star Wars books I remember Count Dooku actually commenting as much. Dooku told Grevous that if he ever had the misfortune of fighting Mace Windu or even Yoda he wouldn't last a minute. Of course, Obi-Wan ended up fighting him at the Battle of Megeto and cyborg arms and machine reflexes wasn't enough to take on a fully skilled Jedi Master, and Grevous ended up at the end of Obi-Wan's light saber. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so sure it was reflexes that he had. It was simply that he moved so fast that most Jedi had to play defensive until they found a whole... that, and the amount of jedi he killed gave him a catelogue of styles to choose from, so he knew how Jedi fought and defended various moves. But he was nowhere as fast as a jedi... whose reflexes almost border on anticipation rather than reacting to a situation. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well there is copywrite. New laws coming in mean that any copywrited work is not able to be downloaded by me not sure how far it all spreads but it means that if its copywrited, just downloading gets you banned from the net and fined loads of cash. No net for like ever probably. In that environment its going to be almost impossible to do anything which is not legal or sold by the major companies. Sooner or later we will have government based controls on the net and everything else. Then the net will die and we can all go back to using disks and probably dos again. At 01:36 p.m. 8/05/2011, you wrote: How about a series of star wars games? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Like I said nothing is definite. Right now I am working my way through the Knights of the Old Republic series and there is some great stuff in there as well. I'm working my way through Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: Deceived and it is a great read. A game based on it would be pretty cool. The main character, a female Jedi apprentice, is perfect for a game heroine in my book. The Sith lord in the series makes Darth Vader, Darth Cidious, etc look like wimps. Lol! On 5/7/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well in the blue harvist radio drama, done by pendantaudio he was rated as being quite old. His race all died when, well a new syth lord came out or the emperor came back or something like that. At 03:35 p.m. 8/05/2011, you wrote: Exactly what I'm thinking. If yoda lived for 1000 years it's probably because of his race, not because of any force-aided thing. And your estimation of Obi-Wan's age and and the gap between him and Anakin is one I agree with. At 08:30 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Not that it's been explored much as far as I know but I sort of got the impression that the centuuries-long life span was a characteristic of whatever Yoda's race was. After all at the time of his death I don't think Anakin Skywalker was much over fifty, in his sixties at most I'd guess. He was nineteen or thereabouts at the time of Attack of the Clones and if I'm not mistaken Revenge of the Sith took place three years later. And I don't think it was much over twenty-five years from Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi. Obi-Wan might have been in his seventies or eighties since he would have been at least ten years older than Anakin. But no, I've never heard anything that suggested that human Jedi lived much longer than ordinary folks. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan, No, Yoda was never human. I can't remember the actual planet is race of aliens came from, but he is and was always an alien. Never human. Whoever said something different doesn't know their butt from a hole in the ground when it comes to Star Wars. Yoda's origins was explained in the books, but I can't remember off the top of my head witch ones. As for Star Wars shapeshifting there is certainly a race that can shapeshift. I think they are called the Clawdikes or something like that. Not sure of the correct spelling. At any rate the bounty hunter Zam, seen in Attack of the Clones, was a shapeshifter. Don't you remember that? Cheers! On 5/7/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I've even heard speculation that Yoda was human at one time, but then you'd have to explain how he turned into whatever he was. If I'm not mistaken shapeshifting isn't an ability any race in the Star Wars universe realy possesses. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It's been a while since I've watched those movies. And I never did set much stock by the Yoda was human business. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Bryan, No, Yoda was never human. I can't remember the actual planet is race of aliens came from, but he is and was always an alien. Never human. Whoever said something different doesn't know their butt from a hole in the ground when it comes to Star Wars. Yoda's origins was explained in the books, but I can't remember off the top of my head witch ones. As for Star Wars shapeshifting there is certainly a race that can shapeshift. I think they are called the Clawdikes or something like that. Not sure of the correct spelling. At any rate the bounty hunter Zam, seen in Attack of the Clones, was a shapeshifter. Don't you remember that? Cheers! On 5/7/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I've even heard speculation that Yoda was human at one time, but then you'd have to explain how he turned into whatever he was. If I'm not mistaken shapeshifting isn't an ability any race in the Star Wars universe realy possesses. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, No, not true. Grevous was a cyborg not a droid. A droid is a 100% robot like C-3PO. A cyborg is part organic part machine. Come to think of it Darth Vader himself is a cyborg as one of his arms both legs, etc are mechanical since Obi-Wan chopped them off in Revenge of the Sith and left him for dead in a lava pit. On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shaun, No, not true. Grevous was a cyborg not a droid. A droid is a 100% robot like C-3PO. A cyborg is part organic part machine. Come to think of it Darth Vader himself is a cyborg as one of his arms both legs, etc are mechanical since Obi-Wan chopped them off in Revenge of the Sith and left him for dead in a lava pit. On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, Well, we do know that the spirit of the person who dies in the Star Wars universe is able to return and communicate and help the living. Yoda says in Revenge of the Sith to Obi-Wan this is possible through the Living Force. Which Qui-Gon Gin was an expert at, and is the first person we know of to do it. At least in the more modern era anyway. However, this ability to appear and to speak to the living seems to be fairly specific to certain people. For instance, when Obi-Wan dies he only speaks to Luke and Yoda. I don't know if that is because the Force is required to see and talk to him, but he never speaks to Leia who also has the Force. However, Obi-Wan actively helps Luke become a Jedi and councils him in his early years as a Jedi Knight. In the Star Wars Legacy series after Jason kills Mara she returns as a Force spirit. She speaks to Luke and Ben Skywalker, but doesn't seem to speak or communicate with anyone else. Not even Jaina who she had taught. However, in the FOTJ series she does speak to Janan Korr letting him know of a plot to clone Force users so perhaps they aren't limited to certain people. Interesting enough we do get something of an answer about life after death in the Star Wars FOTJ series. In FOTJ Ben and Luke enter a place called the Lake of Apparitions where Mara's spirit tells them that death is a time of reflection and a place to lookback on the things one has done both good and bad. Anakin Solo's spirit is there as well so it seems to be a place where the spirits of the Jedi go after dying. Although, the book doesn't mention it perhaps Yoda, Obi-Wan, and all the other Jedis is there too. Cheers! On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm But what does that say about his later envolvement. He became something else. In fact before vador struck him he had already gone, so was he able to go to whatever when he wanted anyway and if vador killed him could actually stay there or just go and have no reason to return. Depending on what you acutally listen to, the actual stories or npr, depending on what you here there are 2 versions. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Bryan, No. Obi-Wan cut off the bionic arm, the same arm Dooku cut off, in order to try and disable Anakin as that was the arm holding his light saber. Remember Obi-Wan, like all good Jedi, tried to turn Anakin first before going for the kill. In fact I have the Final Battle Anakin Skywalker action figure and the right arm is the one you can chop off as well as his legs. That's a bit graphic for a kids toy, but quite accurate in terms of the movie. Cheers! On 5/8/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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One of the books. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Now I'm curious... where in the heck did you get that impression? At 08:02 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: oh. I thaught he died. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I know some Sith can do that or something similar at any rate. Look at Gantoris and Kyp Durron, both of whom briefly fell under the dominion of Exar-Kun. In fact if I'mnot mistkane Gantoris was killed by Kun's spirit. And then of course there was Freedon Nadd, who led Kun down the dark path to begin with. I don't know if it's the same when Sith do it or if they actually have to bind their spirits to a specific object or location in order to communicate with the living. After all Exar-Kun sealed his spirit in those temples on Yavin IV, one of which of course served as the location of the rebel base and later the Jedi Academy. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, Well, we do know that the spirit of the person who dies in the Star Wars universe is able to return and communicate and help the living. Yoda says in Revenge of the Sith to Obi-Wan this is possible through the Living Force. Which Qui-Gon Gin was an expert at, and is the first person we know of to do it. At least in the more modern era anyway. However, this ability to appear and to speak to the living seems to be fairly specific to certain people. For instance, when Obi-Wan dies he only speaks to Luke and Yoda. I don't know if that is because the Force is required to see and talk to him, but he never speaks to Leia who also has the Force. However, Obi-Wan actively helps Luke become a Jedi and councils him in his early years as a Jedi Knight. In the Star Wars Legacy series after Jason kills Mara she returns as a Force spirit. She speaks to Luke and Ben Skywalker, but doesn't seem to speak or communicate with anyone else. Not even Jaina who she had taught. However, in the FOTJ series she does speak to Janan Korr letting him know of a plot to clone Force users so perhaps they aren't limited to certain people. Interesting enough we do get something of an answer about life after death in the Star Wars FOTJ series. In FOTJ Ben and Luke enter a place called the Lake of Apparitions where Mara's spirit tells them that death is a time of reflection and a place to lookback on the things one has done both good and bad. Anakin Solo's spirit is there as well so it seems to be a place where the spirits of the Jedi go after dying. Although, the book doesn't mention it perhaps Yoda, Obi-Wan, and all the other Jedis is there too. Cheers! On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm But what does that say about his later envolvement. He became something else. In fact before vador struck him he had already gone, so was he able to go to whatever when he wanted anyway and if vador killed him could actually stay there or just go and have no reason to return. Depending on what you acutally listen to, the actual stories or npr, depending on what you here there are 2 versions. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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the blue harvest is a family guy remake of star wars. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day well in the blue harvist radio drama, done by pendantaudio he was rated as being quite old. His race all died when, well a new syth lord came out or the emperor came back or something like that. At 03:35 p.m. 8/05/2011, you wrote: Exactly what I'm thinking. If yoda lived for 1000 years it's probably because of his race, not because of any force-aided thing. And your estimation of Obi-Wan's age and and the gap between him and Anakin is one I agree with. At 08:30 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Not that it's been explored much as far as I know but I sort of got the impression that the centuuries-long life span was a characteristic of whatever Yoda's race was. After all at the time of his death I don't think Anakin Skywalker was much over fifty, in his sixties at most I'd guess. He was nineteen or thereabouts at the time of Attack of the Clones and if I'm not mistaken Revenge of the Sith took place three years later. And I don't think it was much over twenty-five years from Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi. Obi-Wan might have been in his seventies or eighties since he would have been at least ten years older than Anakin. But no, I've never heard anything that suggested that human Jedi lived much longer than ordinary folks. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Ah ok. So Vader still had a living arm even after he was fitted with his suit. For some reason I always thought it was the other arm that Obi-Wan cut off. Guess my mom didn't explain that part to me right when I watched the movie in theaters. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Bryan, No. Obi-Wan cut off the bionic arm, the same arm Dooku cut off, in order to try and disable Anakin as that was the arm holding his light saber. Remember Obi-Wan, like all good Jedi, tried to turn Anakin first before going for the kill. In fact I have the Final Battle Anakin Skywalker action figure and the right arm is the one you can chop off as well as his legs. That's a bit graphic for a kids toy, but quite accurate in terms of the movie. Cheers! On 5/8/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
the lava took off the leggs actually. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shaun, No, not true. Grevous was a cyborg not a droid. A droid is a 100% robot like C-3PO. A cyborg is part organic part machine. Come to think of it Darth Vader himself is a cyborg as one of his arms both legs, etc are mechanical since Obi-Wan chopped them off in Revenge of the Sith and left him for dead in a lava pit. On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The actual story, NPR and movie are all the same in one respect... all three show Obi-Wan being cut down physically. In none of those does Vader conduct a missed blow... Obi-Wan's involvement later in the stories is only through manifestation as a force ghost. At 01:38 AM 08/05/2011, you wrote: hmmm But what does that say about his later envolvement. He became something else. In fact before vador struck him he had already gone, so was he able to go to whatever when he wanted anyway and if vador killed him could actually stay there or just go and have no reason to return. Depending on what you acutally listen to, the actual stories or npr, depending on what you here there are 2 versions. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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He did indeed. At the end of that fight Anakin is effectively limbless... nothing more than a torso and a head. At 05:09 AM 08/05/2011, you wrote: Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shaun, No, not true. Grevous was a cyborg not a droid. A droid is a 100% robot like C-3PO. A cyborg is part organic part machine. Come to think of it Darth Vader himself is a cyborg as one of his arms both legs, etc are mechanical since Obi-Wan chopped them off in Revenge of the Sith and left him for dead in a lava pit. On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Shane, No, that's not correct. Anakin jumped to try and attack Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan chopped off both legs with his light saber while Anakin was jumping. I can definitely tell you he didn't lose his legs because of the lava. On 5/8/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: the lava took off the leggs actually. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Nope... Obi-Wan physically chopped them off himself. And it might be different in the movie, but in the book it's Anakin's left arm which obi-wan slices through. So I was wrong... he still had one limb left. Here's the passage from the novel: Obi-Wan turned his dive into a forward roll that left him barely teetering on the rim of a low cliff, just above the soft black sand of the riverbank. Anakin snarled a curse as he realized he'd been suckered, and leapt off his droid at Obi-Wan's back- Half a second too slow. Obi-Wan's whirl to parry didn't meet Anakin's blade. It met his knee. Then his other knee. And while Anakin was still in the air, burned-off lower legs only starting their topple down the cliff, Obi-Wan's recovery to guard brought his blade through Anakin's left arm above the elbow. He stepped back as Anakin fell. Anakin dropped his lightsaber, clawing at the edge of the cliff with his mechanical hand, but his grip was too powerful for the lava bank and it crumbled, and he slid down onto the black sand. His severed legs and his severed arm rolled into the lava below him and burned to ash in sudden bursts of scarlet flame. At 06:38 AM 08/05/2011, you wrote: the lava took off the leggs actually. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, Well, at least from what I read most Sith spirits are confined to a certain place like a temple or tomb. Although, Exar Kun's case might be different considering he used the Massassi Temples to escape the Jedi Knights who were hunting him in the Knights of the Old Republic series comics. They killed his body, but Kun managed to seal his spirit in the Mesassi temple until someone could set him free. Which happened in the Jedi Academy series. On 5/8/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I know some Sith can do that or something similar at any rate. Look at Gantoris and Kyp Durron, both of whom briefly fell under the dominion of Exar-Kun. In fact if I'mnot mistkane Gantoris was killed by Kun's spirit. And then of course there was Freedon Nadd, who led Kun down the dark path to begin with. I don't know if it's the same when Sith do it or if they actually have to bind their spirits to a specific object or location in order to communicate with the living. After all Exar-Kun sealed his spirit in those temples on Yavin IV, one of which of course served as the location of the rebel base and later the Jedi Academy. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
No, I'm pretty sure that was Obi-Wan. THe lava just did the rest of the work. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day the lava took off the leggs actually. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shaun, No, not true. Grevous was a cyborg not a droid. A droid is a 100% robot like C-3PO. A cyborg is part organic part machine. Come to think of it Darth Vader himself is a cyborg as one of his arms both legs, etc are mechanical since Obi-Wan chopped them off in Revenge of the Sith and left him for dead in a lava pit. On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
HI, Yep. Oby-won took care of the legs, then Anakin fell into the lava, which pretty much finished him off; too bad he still survived. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day No, I'm pretty sure that was Obi-Wan. THe lava just did the rest of the work. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day the lava took off the leggs actually. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shaun, No, not true. Grevous was a cyborg not a droid. A droid is a 100% robot like C-3PO. A cyborg is part organic part machine. Come to think of it Darth Vader himself is a cyborg as one of his arms both legs, etc are mechanical since Obi-Wan chopped them off in Revenge of the Sith and left him for dead in a lava pit. On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Of course if he hadn't survived it's entirely possible that the Emperor wouldn't have been defeated. Vader, or perhaps Anakin reborn would be more accurate, was after all the one who killed the Emperor to save Luke. You could argue the same point for Lord of the Rings, since it's entirely possible that if Bilbo had killed Gollum in The Hobbit, or if Sam or Frodo had done so later, that Frodo would have been unable to destroy the ring. Heck, it's entirely possible that they might have failed even if Frodo had succeeded in turning GOllum back to good. And he almost succeeded in that and might have if not for Faramir. But the same principle applies in Star Wars. If Anakin had died that day on Mostafar it's entirely possible that the Emperor might eventually have overcome the rebels. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day HI, Yep. Oby-won took care of the legs, then Anakin fell into the lava, which pretty much finished him off; too bad he still survived. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day No, I'm pretty sure that was Obi-Wan. THe lava just did the rest of the work. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day the lava took off the leggs actually. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shaun, No, not true. Grevous was a cyborg not a droid. A droid is a 100% robot like C-3PO. A cyborg is part organic part machine. Come to think of it Darth Vader himself is a cyborg as one of his arms both legs, etc are mechanical since Obi-Wan chopped them off in Revenge of the Sith and left him for dead in a lava pit. On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, It's definitely a point for discussion. I'm suire Sideous didn't need Anakin for anything regarding the Empire, especiall as he had his eye on Luke in the later movies as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Of course if he hadn't survived it's entirely possible that the Emperor wouldn't have been defeated. Vader, or perhaps Anakin reborn would be more accurate, was after all the one who killed the Emperor to save Luke. You could argue the same point for Lord of the Rings, since it's entirely possible that if Bilbo had killed Gollum in The Hobbit, or if Sam or Frodo had done so later, that Frodo would have been unable to destroy the ring. Heck, it's entirely possible that they might have failed even if Frodo had succeeded in turning GOllum back to good. And he almost succeeded in that and might have if not for Faramir. But the same principle applies in Star Wars. If Anakin had died that day on Mostafar it's entirely possible that the Emperor might eventually have overcome the rebels. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day HI, Yep. Oby-won took care of the legs, then Anakin fell into the lava, which pretty much finished him off; too bad he still survived. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day No, I'm pretty sure that was Obi-Wan. THe lava just did the rest of the work. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day the lava took off the leggs actually. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shaun, No, not true. Grevous was a cyborg not a droid. A droid is a 100% robot like C-3PO. A cyborg is part organic part machine. Come to think of it Darth Vader himself is a cyborg as one of his arms both legs, etc are mechanical since Obi-Wan chopped them off in Revenge of the Sith and left him for dead in a lava pit. On 5/8/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I heard that grevis depending on what starwars fan production you here was a droid. In fact another droid came after him in that production that vador later killed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, So did I. I thought I rememberd something about him grabbing with his mechanical arm before falling into the lava. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:30 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Ah ok. So Vader still had a living arm even after he was fitted with his suit. For some reason I always thought it was the other arm that Obi-Wan cut off. Guess my mom didn't explain that part to me right when I watched the movie in theaters. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Bryan, No. Obi-Wan cut off the bionic arm, the same arm Dooku cut off, in order to try and disable Anakin as that was the arm holding his light saber. Remember Obi-Wan, like all good Jedi, tried to turn Anakin first before going for the kill. In fact I have the Final Battle Anakin Skywalker action figure and the right arm is the one you can chop off as well as his legs. That's a bit graphic for a kids toy, but quite accurate in terms of the movie. Cheers! On 5/8/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Actually didn't he also chop off Vader's other arm? I know Dooku cut off the first one in Attack of the CLones but for some reason I always thought that Obi-Wan chopped off the other one and yes, both legs during that duel on Mostafar. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
HI Hayden, You are right. I looked it up in Revenge of the Sith, the book, and it says Obi-Wan chopped off Anakin's left arm, his human arm, and Anakin used his robotic arm to try and catch is fall, but he fell anyway. On 5/8/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, So did I. I thought I rememberd something about him grabbing with his mechanical arm before falling into the lava. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, Yeah, I remember. That's why I said Mara could have killed Jason, but he cheated by distracting her with Ben's image. That moment of hesitation was all it took to use the poison dart. Otherwise she'd have ended it right then and their. However, she gave him one heck of a battle. It got down right brutal if you come down to it. Jason used an emotional weakness and Mara paid for it with her life. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Kip and Jason. Now that I would've liked to hear about... I love the way troy Dennings writes his star wars battles... the detail and amount of action he squeezes in is great. And if you recall, Mara did not kill Jason because he distracted her with an image of Ben, which gave him the second to drive the poisoned dart into her leg. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, Claudite? I haven't read it in awhile but that definitely sounds correct. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Only one race comes to mind... the assassin from Attack of the Clones who was sent to kill Padme. A claudite or whatever the name was. At 08:47 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: I've even heard speculation that Yoda was human at one time, but then you'd have to explain how he turned into whatever he was. If I'm not mistaken shapeshifting isn't an ability any race in the Star Wars universe realy possesses. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Exactly what I'm thinking. If yoda lived for 1000 years it's probably because of his race, not because of any force-aided thing. And your estimation of Obi-Wan's age and and the gap between him and Anakin is one I agree with. At 08:30 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Not that it's been explored much as far as I know but I sort of got the impression that the centuuries-long life span was a characteristic of whatever Yoda's race was. After all at the time of his death I don't think Anakin Skywalker was much over fifty, in his sixties at most I'd guess. He was nineteen or thereabouts at the time of Attack of the Clones and if I'm not mistaken Revenge of the Sith took place three years later. And I don't think it was much over twenty-five years from Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi. Obi-Wan might have been in his seventies or eighties since he would have been at least ten years older than Anakin. But no, I've never heard anything that suggested that human Jedi lived much longer than ordinary folks. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
oh. I havent watched those movies in years. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, No, that's not correct. Anakin jumped to try and attack Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan chopped off both legs with his light saber while Anakin was jumping. I can definitely tell you he didn't lose his legs because of the lava. On 5/8/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: the lava took off the leggs actually. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, I'd cite Grizley Gulch as a good example. Recall the ambush when you come back with Stealin Steve the second time--the game won't let you win that one. It's just the way the story goes. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day right. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day That's not the point. If you aren't supposed to win according to the story then the game won't let you. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yeah. But you want to be able to win all games. It may be hard, but you can still win. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day NOt if it's written into the story. THen it won't matter what you do. If you're not meant to win then you won't. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, Yoda against Palpatine? Hmmm...last time that happened that didn't go so well for the Jedi master in question. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yours is actually better! Long as theres the fight against the turned clones. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Do you planning to releaseit in the future times? saygilar sevgiler. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
good point. Could you also put ventrice in the game? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Well, as a strict Star Wars fan who would like to stick to cannon as much as possible I most certainly would care. As has been said by the time Anikin was old enough to fight Duku etc Darth Maul was 10 years in the grave. The only way to even bring him into a storyline after that is to use a clone. Unfortunately, cloned super villains are way too common as it is in Star Wars. We've got the Palpatine clone that shows up in some of the later books, there was the clone of Thrawn they were creating in the Hand of Thrawn series, and C'bouth was a dark side clone of the original C'bouth. As I said cloned super villains are all too common in Star Wars, and another one would be to say the least not that interesting I think. Besides that there were enough Sith active during the clone wars as it was. We have Palpatine, Duku, Grevous, Ventris, and of course Anikin is turned and becomes Darth Vader. That's plenty of super villains as it is without bringing Darth Maul into the picture. On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: who cares! it would be more fun to include him. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, Yoda against Palpatine? Hmmm...last time that happened that didn't go so well for the Jedi master in question. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yours is actually better! Long as theres the fight against the turned clones. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
So the original C'baoth wasn't a Sith? I read the THrawntrilogy bt I don't think it mentioned anything about his original. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day good point. Could you also put ventrice in the game? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Well, as a strict Star Wars fan who would like to stick to cannon as much as possible I most certainly would care. As has been said by the time Anikin was old enough to fight Duku etc Darth Maul was 10 years in the grave. The only way to even bring him into a storyline after that is to use a clone. Unfortunately, cloned super villains are way too common as it is in Star Wars. We've got the Palpatine clone that shows up in some of the later books, there was the clone of Thrawn they were creating in the Hand of Thrawn series, and C'bouth was a dark side clone of the original C'bouth. As I said cloned super villains are all too common in Star Wars, and another one would be to say the least not that interesting I think. Besides that there were enough Sith active during the clone wars as it was. We have Palpatine, Duku, Grevous, Ventris, and of course Anikin is turned and becomes Darth Vader. That's plenty of super villains as it is without bringing Darth Maul into the picture. On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: who cares! it would be more fun to include him. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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NOt if it's written into the story. THen it won't matter what you do. If you're not meant to win then you won't. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, Yoda against Palpatine? Hmmm...last time that happened that didn't go so well for the Jedi master in question. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yours is actually better! Long as theres the fight against the turned clones. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Hayden, Actually, there are a number of cases where I can think of where dark lord's of the Sith have done just that. Resurrecting the dead certainly isn't common in Star Wars, but there are a few cases I can think of where it has happened in a sense. For instance, in Star Wars Mysteries of the Sith there are a number of Sith Zombies on level 12. When Mara Jade enters the Sith temple Sith zombies will come out of their tombs and try and attack her with lightning and other force attacks. I can tell you from having played that level they are really hard to kill. They don't want to die. Another case I can think of is a number of Jedi Knights and Sith lords have come back as ghosts. This perhaps isn't resurrecting the dead so to speak, but we do know that in Star Wars when someone dies their spirit is able to communicate and interact with the living. Obi-Wan did it with Luke, Mara Jade's ghost appears in one of the newer Star Wars books, and so on. Yoda mentioned this ability had something to do with the Living Force in Revenge of the Sith when Quigon's spirit appears to Obi-Wan and Yoda. Then, at the end of Return of the Jedi, during the Ewok celibration on Endore, Obi-Wan, Anikin, and Yoda's spirits appear next to Luke Skywalker just as the credits start to scroll. So we can definitely make a case for Force spirits or Force ghosts if you want to call them that. Just because someone dies in Star Wars doesn't mean their spirit is completely gone. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, And considering I've never heard mention of the Dark side granting the power to resurrect the dead... Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, No. The original C'bouth was a Jedi master asigned to the Outbound Flight Project that Thrawn destroyed. C'bouth was then cloned and became a Sith. He is briefly mentioned in a couple of the Clone Wars era books in passing. On 5/7/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: So the original C'baoth wasn't a Sith? I read the THrawntrilogy bt I don't think it mentioned anything about his original. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Shane, Like I said nothing is definite. Right now I am working my way through the Knights of the Old Republic series and there is some great stuff in there as well. I'm working my way through Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: Deceived and it is a great read. A game based on it would be pretty cool. The main character, a female Jedi apprentice, is perfect for a game heroine in my book. The Sith lord in the series makes Darth Vader, Darth Cidious, etc look like wimps. Lol! On 5/7/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shane, were I working on a game based in the Clone wars era yes, but since I have abandoned Jedi Strike, have no intentions of ever writing it, your answer is no. My Star Wars ideas currently do not involve the Clone Wars. I'm either looking at something like the Old Republic era, the Twilight era, or something involving the current books along the later era. In other words an area of Star Wars history not heavily documented where I can get creative and use my own imagination as much as possible. Cheers! On 5/7/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: good point. Could you also put ventrice in the game? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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All I can say is a disturbing number of clones seem to turn to the dark side. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, No. The original C'bouth was a Jedi master asigned to the Outbound Flight Project that Thrawn destroyed. C'bouth was then cloned and became a Sith. He is briefly mentioned in a couple of the Clone Wars era books in passing. On 5/7/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: So the original C'baoth wasn't a Sith? I read the THrawntrilogy bt I don't think it mentioned anything about his original. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, First, let me remind you I don't know when or if I'll ever release a Star Wars game. It is very complicated given that there are many copyrights etc involved. Besides that I am not, and have no plans to, revive the original Jedi Strike idea I had back in 2005. I was just starting out with USA Games, had just watched Revenge of the Sith, and wanted a game based on the movie. I'm no longer personally interested in the idea of a game based on Revenge of the Sith specifically. Second, if I do a Star Wars game at all it will most likely be something fairly original and based in another timeline like the Knights of the Old Republic era that has nothing to do with the main characters like Anakin, Obi-Wan, Luke Skywalker, etc. Like the Jedi Knight series of the 1990's I'd like to create a main character who isn't a big well known character and who I can write stories around. It gives me more wiggle room to create new characters, settings, adventures, not tied to something like the Clone wars that is getting a bit boring now that we've had three seasons of cartoons, three movies, and many books on the topic. Diddo for the Imperial era. Its like everyones been there done that so to speak. Cheers! On 5/7/11, burakyuksek burakyuksek...@gmail.com wrote: Do you planning to releaseit in the future times? saygilar sevgiler. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan, Well, Thrawn explained that in the Thrawn triligy. He said that many of the early clones went insane or suffered mental issues because of the outside influences of the Force on their brains. There are however clones such as Boba Fett who didn't go insane because Jango raised him from a baby, and he was allowed to age normally as any other human. The fact Boba Fett was a bad guy has little to do with being a clone, but more to do with having been raised by a bounty hunter like Jango Fett. The C'bouth and Luke Skywalker clones may have been effected by being grown quickly and went insane making them open to the dark side of the Force. On 5/7/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: All I can say is a disturbing number of clones seem to turn to the dark side. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Hayden, Yeah, but you knew it had to end that way coming into the movie. Revenge of the Sith tells the story of how Chanceler Palpatine took over the Old Republic and turned it into the Empire. In order for that to happen Yoda had to loose the fight in order to set the stage for Star Wars A New Hope. However, I think in a real fight Yoda would have won. Look how Mace Windu was kicking the crap out of Palpatine earlier in the movie before Anakin, turned Darth Vader, showed up and cut Mace Windu in half. If Anakin hadn't showed up Palpatine would have been finished off right then and there. Yoda was suppose to be more powerful than Windu, and was the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy. For him to lose was, well, a bit staged for story elements rather than reality I think. On 5/6/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Yoda against Palpatine? Hmmm...last time that happened that didn't go so well for the Jedi master in question. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Thomas, That is a good point, actually. I never really thought of it in that manner; although it certainly makes sense. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Hayden, Yeah, but you knew it had to end that way coming into the movie. Revenge of the Sith tells the story of how Chanceler Palpatine took over the Old Republic and turned it into the Empire. In order for that to happen Yoda had to loose the fight in order to set the stage for Star Wars A New Hope. However, I think in a real fight Yoda would have won. Look how Mace Windu was kicking the crap out of Palpatine earlier in the movie before Anakin, turned Darth Vader, showed up and cut Mace Windu in half. If Anakin hadn't showed up Palpatine would have been finished off right then and there. Yoda was suppose to be more powerful than Windu, and was the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy. For him to lose was, well, a bit staged for story elements rather than reality I think. On 5/6/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Yoda against Palpatine? Hmmm...last time that happened that didn't go so well for the Jedi master in question. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Well...that's a bit confusing. The way I understood it they were programmed, as such, to obey the Republic. COnsidering that the empire was the republic, they had to obey. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Bryan, Well, Thrawn explained that in the Thrawn triligy. He said that many of the early clones went insane or suffered mental issues because of the outside influences of the Force on their brains. There are however clones such as Boba Fett who didn't go insane because Jango raised him from a baby, and he was allowed to age normally as any other human. The fact Boba Fett was a bad guy has little to do with being a clone, but more to do with having been raised by a bounty hunter like Jango Fett. The C'bouth and Luke Skywalker clones may have been effected by being grown quickly and went insane making them open to the dark side of the Force. On 5/7/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: All I can say is a disturbing number of clones seem to turn to the dark side. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Now that's one character I've been curious about. I've been through the main starwars books (the time of Luke and Anakin Skywalker) and they mention her several times without really giving a history of her aphiliations to Dooku. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day good point. Could you also put ventrice in the game? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Well, as a strict Star Wars fan who would like to stick to cannon as much as possible I most certainly would care. As has been said by the time Anikin was old enough to fight Duku etc Darth Maul was 10 years in the grave. The only way to even bring him into a storyline after that is to use a clone. Unfortunately, cloned super villains are way too common as it is in Star Wars. We've got the Palpatine clone that shows up in some of the later books, there was the clone of Thrawn they were creating in the Hand of Thrawn series, and C'bouth was a dark side clone of the original C'bouth. As I said cloned super villains are all too common in Star Wars, and another one would be to say the least not that interesting I think. Besides that there were enough Sith active during the clone wars as it was. We have Palpatine, Duku, Grevous, Ventris, and of course Anikin is turned and becomes Darth Vader. That's plenty of super villains as it is without bringing Darth Maul into the picture. On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: who cares! it would be more fun to include him. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Actually, the empire and republic are considered two completely different entities... because of how the system was run. The clones were programmed to obey whoever was in charge of the empire as that plan was apparently in place long before the clones were thouht of as a military resource. This is shown in Revenge of the Sith when Palpatine issues order 66 and the clone commander responds, It will be done, my lord. At least to me, this implies that the knowledge of who they're working for has already been programmed into their subconscious and was waiting for that trigger. Until then they were all-too-happy to serve the republic and obey the Jedi, since many of the squads have Jedi leading them. For anyone who doesn't know about order 66... this was the order to begin the jedi perge. All the clone commanders turned on the Jedi who were leading them, including Obi Wan... who was the only one who managed to escape from them. Well, there are a couple more I can think of, but the empire eventually caught up with them.. and the Jedi perge was also happening on Coruscant, as Anakin Skywalker, who was by then known as Darth Vader, had already turned to the Dark Side and personally slaughtered all the Jedi in the Temple. At 09:39 AM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi, Well...that's a bit confusing. The way I understood it they were programmed, as such, to obey the Republic. COnsidering that the empire was the republic, they had to obey. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom, Quite a list of Sith there.. I didn't realize there were that many running around that time. And everyone thought they were extinct. lol. I have a question though... would you consider Grevous a sith? Since you listed him along with Dooku, Ventris and the rest, I'm guessing he qualifies. lol. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Well, as a strict Star Wars fan who would like to stick to cannon as much as possible I most certainly would care. As has been said by the time Anikin was old enough to fight Duku etc Darth Maul was 10 years in the grave. The only way to even bring him into a storyline after that is to use a clone. Unfortunately, cloned super villains are way too common as it is in Star Wars. We've got the Palpatine clone that shows up in some of the later books, there was the clone of Thrawn they were creating in the Hand of Thrawn series, and C'bouth was a dark side clone of the original C'bouth. As I said cloned super villains are all too common in Star Wars, and another one would be to say the least not that interesting I think. Besides that there were enough Sith active during the clone wars as it was. We have Palpatine, Duku, Grevous, Ventris, and of course Anikin is turned and becomes Darth Vader. That's plenty of super villains as it is without bringing Darth Maul into the picture. On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: who cares! it would be more fun to include him. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Clement, Well, yes and no. Grevous is a cyborg, and has very little control of the Force. So he's not a true Sith in that sense of the word. However, he is able to use light sabers with a stunning degree of accuracy and has held his own against full blown Jedi Knights like Obi-Wan, Mace Windu, and Anakin on the cartoons and in the books. So he sort of qualifies even though he doesn't use the Force. Asaaj Ventris on the other hand is a true Sith. I think she's classified as a Sith Assassin, but is Count Dooku's apprentice. She is a master of duel saber combat, and also has held her own against many Jedi Masters. She even gave Yoda a good battle a time or two. So Ventris definitely isn't anyone to take llightly. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, Quite a list of Sith there.. I didn't realize there were that many running around that time. And everyone thought they were extinct. lol. I have a question though... would you consider Grevous a sith? Since you listed him along with Dooku, Ventris and the rest, I'm guessing he qualifies. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
My only real question was Grevous... Ventris I kind of guessed would fit into that category. lol. But I guess with how well he knows his swordplay... he definitely qualify. And it could be argued though that he doesn't have the force, the combat programming he has is enough to match the force as you're right, he did give a lot of jedi a hard time. Though I personally think that comes down to one lightsaber against four. grins. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Actually, not all the clones and clone commanders followed Order 66. Read Dark Lord: the Rise of Darth Vader. According to that book while most of the clones turned on their Jedi commanders many had become loyal to their Jedi commanders and refused to turn. That allowed a handful such as Olee Starstone to escape alive and go into hiding. Of course, Darth Vader then hunted them down and killed many of them the point I'm making is that according to the books not all the clones were totally loyal to Palpatine. Although, most of them were.. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, the empire and republic are considered two completely different entities... because of how the system was run. The clones were programmed to obey whoever was in charge of the empire as that plan was apparently in place long before the clones were thouht of as a military resource. This is shown in Revenge of the Sith when Palpatine issues order 66 and the clone commander responds, It will be done, my lord. At least to me, this implies that the knowledge of who they're working for has already been programmed into their subconscious and was waiting for that trigger. Until then they were all-too-happy to serve the republic and obey the Jedi, since many of the squads have Jedi leading them. For anyone who doesn't know about order 66... this was the order to begin the jedi perge. All the clone commanders turned on the Jedi who were leading them, including Obi Wan... who was the only one who managed to escape from them. Well, there are a couple more I can think of, but the empire eventually caught up with them.. and the Jedi perge was also happening on Coruscant, as Anakin Skywalker, who was by then known as Darth Vader, had already turned to the Dark Side and personally slaughtered all the Jedi in the Temple. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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This is true. I did know that happened, as I've read Dark Lord... which was an amazing book by the way. But at the same time I think that was a bit of a minority event as I haven't come across anyone else who was in the same situation. Shrine and Starstone just happened to get lucky if you ask me. Though it was a good piece of luck and let them start quite a bit of trouble before they were found. lol. But it was nice to see a bunch of clones who had apparently overcome that particular problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Hayden, Smile. Watch the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoons on Cartoon Network. Ventris is often on their as one of the villains. Now, as for reading material she is in several books. She's in Dark Rendezvous, the Sestus Deception, , and a couple of others I can think of. She's basically Count Dooku's apprentice. She's sent out to perform assassinations or any other kind of dark underhanded plots Dooku needs taken care of but doesn't want to get involved with personally. HTH On 5/7/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Now that's one character I've been curious about. I've been through the main starwars books (the time of Luke and Anakin Skywalker) and they mention her several times without really giving a history of her aphiliations to Dooku. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Clement, Could be. Have you read the Jedi Twilight saga that follows Dark Lord? The reason I ask is while the clones not following Order 66 does seem like an isolated event other Jedis managed to escape the slaughter, and cause a lot of trouble before Darth Vader hunted them down and finished them off. Unfortunately, for them none of them were in Darth Vader's class, and Anakin had always been usually strong and powerful in the Force. No one until Luke Skywalker came along was able to stand up to him, and give him a good fight. Although, in A New Hope Obi-Wan let Vader kill him which doesn't really count as we know Obi-Wan could have beaten Vader if he wanted too. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: This is true. I did know that happened, as I've read Dark Lord... which was an amazing book by the way. But at the same time I think that was a bit of a minority event as I haven't come across anyone else who was in the same situation. Shrine and Starstone just happened to get lucky if you ask me. Though it was a good piece of luck and let them start quite a bit of trouble before they were found. lol. But it was nice to see a bunch of clones who had apparently overcome that particular problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I haven't read that series yet... but thanks for the recommendation. Will definitely check it out. And I'm not surprised noone could come close to matching Vader... though Obi-Wan beating him would've been something to see in episode 4. At 10:55 AM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Clement, Could be. Have you read the Jedi Twilight saga that follows Dark Lord? The reason I ask is while the clones not following Order 66 does seem like an isolated event other Jedis managed to escape the slaughter, and cause a lot of trouble before Darth Vader hunted them down and finished them off. Unfortunately, for them none of them were in Darth Vader's class, and Anakin had always been usually strong and powerful in the Force. No one until Luke Skywalker came along was able to stand up to him, and give him a good fight. Although, in A New Hope Obi-Wan let Vader kill him which doesn't really count as we know Obi-Wan could have beaten Vader if he wanted too. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: This is true. I did know that happened, as I've read Dark Lord... which was an amazing book by the way. But at the same time I think that was a bit of a minority event as I haven't come across anyone else who was in the same situation. Shrine and Starstone just happened to get lucky if you ask me. Though it was a good piece of luck and let them start quite a bit of trouble before they were found. lol. But it was nice to see a bunch of clones who had apparently overcome that particular problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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HI Hayden, No, that's not correct. First, the Empire and the Republic aren't the same thing. The Republic, in this case the Old Republic, was a republic of planets governed by a senate and a chancellor for several thousand years. They were protected by the Jedi Knights who were peace officers and what we might think of as galactic police. In Attack of the Clones Chancellor Palpatine convinced the senate to give him absolute power so he could direct the war with the Separatests, which he secretly commanded as Darth Cidious, so he could take over the Republic. By the time the war was over instead of returning power to the senate Palpatine declared himself emperor and since the clones were directly under his soul command he held all of the military might and power to govern the galaxy. After Palpatine became emperor the Imperial senate was only there to manage day to day government, but they could not inact laws without Palpatine's personal approval. However, like all other hostile take overs the Empire was a military dictatorship. So the governments of the Republic and Empire were totally different. Second, the clones were genetically designed to obey the chancellor, in this case Palpatine, and were loyal to him personally rather than any specific government. Since the clones were loyal to Chancellor Palpatine personally rather than the Republic Senate, the Jedi Knights, etc he was able to direct the military in whiping out the Jedi with Order 66 and take soul control of the Republic forming the Empire. It was a military take over/dictatorship. Palpatine was just very clever how he went about it. Cheers! On 5/7/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Well...that's a bit confusing. The way I understood it they were programmed, as such, to obey the Republic. COnsidering that the empire was the republic, they had to obey. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, Yeah, I know. Funny how he managed to do it once but couldn't twice. I can only assume he had some kind of tutalidge from Palpatine. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day I haven't read that series yet... but thanks for the recommendation. Will definitely check it out. And I'm not surprised noone could come close to matching Vader... though Obi-Wan beating him would've been something to see in episode 4. At 10:55 AM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Clement, Could be. Have you read the Jedi Twilight saga that follows Dark Lord? The reason I ask is while the clones not following Order 66 does seem like an isolated event other Jedis managed to escape the slaughter, and cause a lot of trouble before Darth Vader hunted them down and finished them off. Unfortunately, for them none of them were in Darth Vader's class, and Anakin had always been usually strong and powerful in the Force. No one until Luke Skywalker came along was able to stand up to him, and give him a good fight. Although, in A New Hope Obi-Wan let Vader kill him which doesn't really count as we know Obi-Wan could have beaten Vader if he wanted too. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: This is true. I did know that happened, as I've read Dark Lord... which was an amazing book by the way. But at the same time I think that was a bit of a minority event as I haven't come across anyone else who was in the same situation. Shrine and Starstone just happened to get lucky if you ask me. Though it was a good piece of luck and let them start quite a bit of trouble before they were found. lol. But it was nice to see a bunch of clones who had apparently overcome that particular problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Thomas, Thanks. With all the reading material and cartoons/movies I must confess things get daunting quickly. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Hayden, Smile. Watch the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoons on Cartoon Network. Ventris is often on their as one of the villains. Now, as for reading material she is in several books. She's in Dark Rendezvous, the Sestus Deception, , and a couple of others I can think of. She's basically Count Dooku's apprentice. She's sent out to perform assassinations or any other kind of dark underhanded plots Dooku needs taken care of but doesn't want to get involved with personally. HTH On 5/7/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Now that's one character I've been curious about. I've been through the main starwars books (the time of Luke and Anakin Skywalker) and they mention her several times without really giving a history of her aphiliations to Dooku. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, Don't forget that we was reupted to have the same speed as Jedi reflexes with his...replacement arms. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day My only real question was Grevous... Ventris I kind of guessed would fit into that category. lol. But I guess with how well he knows his swordplay... he definitely qualify. And it could be argued though that he doesn't have the force, the combat programming he has is enough to match the force as you're right, he did give a lot of jedi a hard time. Though I personally think that comes down to one lightsaber against four. grins. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
The reason he let himself get cut down wasn't because Vader outsmarted him or had more teaching from palpatine. He let himself get cut down so as to distract Vader and give Luke the time to run off in the Falcon. But he knew he wasn't really going to die... so he let it happen. At 04:21 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi, Yeah, I know. Funny how he managed to do it once but couldn't twice. I can only assume he had some kind of tutalidge from Palpatine. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day I haven't read that series yet... but thanks for the recommendation. Will definitely check it out. And I'm not surprised noone could come close to matching Vader... though Obi-Wan beating him would've been something to see in episode 4. At 10:55 AM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Clement, Could be. Have you read the Jedi Twilight saga that follows Dark Lord? The reason I ask is while the clones not following Order 66 does seem like an isolated event other Jedis managed to escape the slaughter, and cause a lot of trouble before Darth Vader hunted them down and finished them off. Unfortunately, for them none of them were in Darth Vader's class, and Anakin had always been usually strong and powerful in the Force. No one until Luke Skywalker came along was able to stand up to him, and give him a good fight. Although, in A New Hope Obi-Wan let Vader kill him which doesn't really count as we know Obi-Wan could have beaten Vader if he wanted too. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: This is true. I did know that happened, as I've read Dark Lord... which was an amazing book by the way. But at the same time I think that was a bit of a minority event as I haven't come across anyone else who was in the same situation. Shrine and Starstone just happened to get lucky if you ask me. Though it was a good piece of luck and let them start quite a bit of trouble before they were found. lol. But it was nice to see a bunch of clones who had apparently overcome that particular problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, I should've clarified...the point I was trying to make was that the republic was transformed into the empire. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:50 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Actually, the empire and republic are considered two completely different entities... because of how the system was run. The clones were programmed to obey whoever was in charge of the empire as that plan was apparently in place long before the clones were thouht of as a military resource. This is shown in Revenge of the Sith when Palpatine issues order 66 and the clone commander responds, It will be done, my lord. At least to me, this implies that the knowledge of who they're working for has already been programmed into their subconscious and was waiting for that trigger. Until then they were all-too-happy to serve the republic and obey the Jedi, since many of the squads have Jedi leading them. For anyone who doesn't know about order 66... this was the order to begin the jedi perge. All the clone commanders turned on the Jedi who were leading them, including Obi Wan... who was the only one who managed to escape from them. Well, there are a couple more I can think of, but the empire eventually caught up with them.. and the Jedi perge was also happening on Coruscant, as Anakin Skywalker, who was by then known as Darth Vader, had already turned to the Dark Side and personally slaughtered all the Jedi in the Temple. At 09:39 AM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi, Well...that's a bit confusing. The way I understood it they were programmed, as such, to obey the Republic. COnsidering that the empire was the republic, they had to obey. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, Wow...it has been awhile since i've read thato ne hasn't it? I need to pull them out again. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day The reason he let himself get cut down wasn't because Vader outsmarted him or had more teaching from palpatine. He let himself get cut down so as to distract Vader and give Luke the time to run off in the Falcon. But he knew he wasn't really going to die... so he let it happen. At 04:21 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi, Yeah, I know. Funny how he managed to do it once but couldn't twice. I can only assume he had some kind of tutalidge from Palpatine. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day I haven't read that series yet... but thanks for the recommendation. Will definitely check it out. And I'm not surprised noone could come close to matching Vader... though Obi-Wan beating him would've been something to see in episode 4. At 10:55 AM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Clement, Could be. Have you read the Jedi Twilight saga that follows Dark Lord? The reason I ask is while the clones not following Order 66 does seem like an isolated event other Jedis managed to escape the slaughter, and cause a lot of trouble before Darth Vader hunted them down and finished them off. Unfortunately, for them none of them were in Darth Vader's class, and Anakin had always been usually strong and powerful in the Force. No one until Luke Skywalker came along was able to stand up to him, and give him a good fight. Although, in A New Hope Obi-Wan let Vader kill him which doesn't really count as we know Obi-Wan could have beaten Vader if he wanted too. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: This is true. I did know that happened, as I've read Dark Lord... which was an amazing book by the way. But at the same time I think that was a bit of a minority event as I haven't come across anyone else who was in the same situation. Shrine and Starstone just happened to get lucky if you ask me. Though it was a good piece of luck and let them start quite a bit of trouble before they were found. lol. But it was nice to see a bunch of clones who had apparently overcome that particular problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
I'm not so sure it was reflexes that he had. It was simply that he moved so fast that most Jedi had to play defensive until they found a whole... that, and the amount of jedi he killed gave him a catelogue of styles to choose from, so he knew how Jedi fought and defended various moves. But he was nowhere as fast as a jedi... whose reflexes almost border on anticipation rather than reacting to a situation. At 04:25 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi, Don't forget that we was reupted to have the same speed as Jedi reflexes with his...replacement arms. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day My only real question was Grevous... Ventris I kind of guessed would fit into that category. lol. But I guess with how well he knows his swordplay... he definitely qualify. And it could be argued though that he doesn't have the force, the combat programming he has is enough to match the force as you're right, he did give a lot of jedi a hard time. Though I personally think that comes down to one lightsaber against four. grins. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi, Maybe. Its more likely that Obi-Wan was just to old to fight as effectively as he did in Revenge of the Sith. Remember 19 years had passed between Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars A New Hope. Obi-Wan looked to be in his 60's or 70's by the time he met Vader again, and he was probably physically weaker and slower than Vader, or he chose to let himself get killed for reason x. Plus by the time A New Hope had come along Anakin had fully become Darth Vader and probably had learned a lot more about the dark side of the force than he did 19 years previously. If you ask me the reason Luke Skywalker managed to fight and eventually defeat Vader had nothing to do with skills or powers, but Vader's emotional weakness. Say what you will about Darth Vader he had really and truly loved Padme. That made him unable to kill his only son, and his daughter as well. That emotional bond, although distant, was enough to make him hold back and not fight as effectively as he perhaps could have. As it turns out in Return of the Jedi when Palpatine is trying to kill Luke it was Darth Vader who grabs Palpatine by the throat and tosses him into the reactor core. Apparently Vader's love for his son was greater than the dark side and any loyalty he had to Palpatine. It is apparent as early as Empire Strikes Back that Anakin, Darth Vader, secretly hated Palpatine. In Revenge of the Sith, of course, we find out why. Palpatine told Anakin if he turned to the dark side that he'd insure Padme didn't die, but of course she does die and Anakin goes into emotional melt down. Finding out that he had two children who were alive and well went a long way to bring Anakin back from the dark side and why he turned on Palpatine and threw him head long into the Deathstar's reactor core. Cheers! On 5/7/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Yeah, I know. Funny how he managed to do it once but couldn't twice. I can only assume he had some kind of tutalidge from Palpatine. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Clement, Right. Grevous's reflexes were better than average, but nowhere near a Jedi's. In one of the Star Wars books I remember Count Dooku actually commenting as much. Dooku told Grevous that if he ever had the misfortune of fighting Mace Windu or even Yoda he wouldn't last a minute. Of course, Obi-Wan ended up fighting him at the Battle of Megeto and cyborg arms and machine reflexes wasn't enough to take on a fully skilled Jedi Master, and Grevous ended up at the end of Obi-Wan's light saber. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so sure it was reflexes that he had. It was simply that he moved so fast that most Jedi had to play defensive until they found a whole... that, and the amount of jedi he killed gave him a catelogue of styles to choose from, so he knew how Jedi fought and defended various moves. But he was nowhere as fast as a jedi... whose reflexes almost border on anticipation rather than reacting to a situation. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. At 04:55 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi, Maybe. Its more likely that Obi-Wan was just to old to fight as effectively as he did in Revenge of the Sith. Remember 19 years had passed between Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars A New Hope. Obi-Wan looked to be in his 60's or 70's by the time he met Vader again, and he was probably physically weaker and slower than Vader, or he chose to let himself get killed for reason x. Plus by the time A New Hope had come along Anakin had fully become Darth Vader and probably had learned a lot more about the dark side of the force than he did 19 years previously. If you ask me the reason Luke Skywalker managed to fight and eventually defeat Vader had nothing to do with skills or powers, but Vader's emotional weakness. Say what you will about Darth Vader he had really and truly loved Padme. That made him unable to kill his only son, and his daughter as well. That emotional bond, although distant, was enough to make him hold back and not fight as effectively as he perhaps could have. As it turns out in Return of the Jedi when Palpatine is trying to kill Luke it was Darth Vader who grabs Palpatine by the throat and tosses him into the reactor core. Apparently Vader's love for his son was greater than the dark side and any loyalty he had to Palpatine. It is apparent as early as Empire Strikes Back that Anakin, Darth Vader, secretly hated Palpatine. In Revenge of the Sith, of course, we find out why. Palpatine told Anakin if he turned to the dark side that he'd insure Padme didn't die, but of course she does die and Anakin goes into emotional melt down. Finding out that he had two children who were alive and well went a long way to bring Anakin back from the dark side and why he turned on Palpatine and threw him head long into the Deathstar's reactor core. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Hayden, Oh, I know. Especially, if you toss the comicbooks and games into the picture. For example, at the end of the Hand of Thrawn series Luke asks Mara to marry him, and she says yes. However, if you want the actual story when, where, and how they got married that is in the Star Wars comicbooks. In the issue the Unity I think. Right after that comes the New Jedi Order which naturally has Luke and Mara married, and Mara pregnant with Ben Skywalker. So the Star Wars cannon is all over the place and in multiple sources and media including comics, books, games, movies, etc which does get to be confusing if you miss something. For instance, I'm working my way through the Knights of the Old Republic series. Well, besides the books part of the history is contained in the Knights of the Old Republic video games which isn't fair to us since we can't play or enjoy the video game history. Personally, I wish they didn't always include game history as actual cannon as it makes the books harder to follow if you have a certain comicbook that leads into a series or a video game that accompanies the series that we can't play. You will be reading something and ask yourself, when did this happen? Only to find out from the Starwars.com website that the author is making reference to comicbook issue x from series x and so on. Cheers! On 5/7/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Thanks. With all the reading material and cartoons/movies I must confess things get daunting quickly. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Clement, Yeah, I've listened to the radio dramas. Not just the original A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi but the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight radio series as well. You are right though the ending of the ROTJ radio version is pretty cool. Too bad it wasn't in the movies. Anyway, you've got a point about the age thing. Luke was 40 or 50's when the war with the Vong broke out and at least in his 50's when the Legacy series takes place. He definitely could have mopped the floor with Jason if he wanted too. Let's not forget Mara, who was in her early 50's as well, gave Jason one heck of a battle too. She probably could have won, but I think she wasn't fully committed to the idea this was a fight to the death and didn't want to really kill Jason but turn him back to the light. Big mistake for her since she ended up getting killed instead. In any case the authors decided to go for full drama by having Jaina, his twin sister, finish him off instead of Luke, Mara, or any of the Jedi masters from the New Jedi Order. One wonders what a battle between Kip and Jason would have been like. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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yeah. But you want to be able to win all games. It may be hard, but you can still win. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day NOt if it's written into the story. THen it won't matter what you do. If you're not meant to win then you won't. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, Yoda against Palpatine? Hmmm...last time that happened that didn't go so well for the Jedi master in question. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yours is actually better! Long as theres the fight against the turned clones. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
How about a series of star wars games? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Like I said nothing is definite. Right now I am working my way through the Knights of the Old Republic series and there is some great stuff in there as well. I'm working my way through Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: Deceived and it is a great read. A game based on it would be pretty cool. The main character, a female Jedi apprentice, is perfect for a game heroine in my book. The Sith lord in the series makes Darth Vader, Darth Cidious, etc look like wimps. Lol! On 5/7/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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That guy can be the final boss then. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Like I said nothing is definite. Right now I am working my way through the Knights of the Old Republic series and there is some great stuff in there as well. I'm working my way through Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: Deceived and it is a great read. A game based on it would be pretty cool. The main character, a female Jedi apprentice, is perfect for a game heroine in my book. The Sith lord in the series makes Darth Vader, Darth Cidious, etc look like wimps. Lol! On 5/7/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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oh okay. sad. Well theres still a chance of a star wars game! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, were I working on a game based in the Clone wars era yes, but since I have abandoned Jedi Strike, have no intentions of ever writing it, your answer is no. My Star Wars ideas currently do not involve the Clone Wars. I'm either looking at something like the Old Republic era, the Twilight era, or something involving the current books along the later era. In other words an area of Star Wars history not heavily documented where I can get creative and use my own imagination as much as possible. Cheers! On 5/7/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: good point. Could you also put ventrice in the game? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Who's the ultra hard one. The one that makes darth imperor look like a wimp? - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Tom, Quite a list of Sith there.. I didn't realize there were that many running around that time. And everyone thought they were extinct. lol. I have a question though... would you consider Grevous a sith? Since you listed him along with Dooku, Ventris and the rest, I'm guessing he qualifies. lol. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Well, as a strict Star Wars fan who would like to stick to cannon as much as possible I most certainly would care. As has been said by the time Anikin was old enough to fight Duku etc Darth Maul was 10 years in the grave. The only way to even bring him into a storyline after that is to use a clone. Unfortunately, cloned super villains are way too common as it is in Star Wars. We've got the Palpatine clone that shows up in some of the later books, there was the clone of Thrawn they were creating in the Hand of Thrawn series, and C'bouth was a dark side clone of the original C'bouth. As I said cloned super villains are all too common in Star Wars, and another one would be to say the least not that interesting I think. Besides that there were enough Sith active during the clone wars as it was. We have Palpatine, Duku, Grevous, Ventris, and of course Anikin is turned and becomes Darth Vader. That's plenty of super villains as it is without bringing Darth Maul into the picture. On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: who cares! it would be more fun to include him. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It goes with the story. Luke was the ultra good guy that time. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, Yeah, I know. Funny how he managed to do it once but couldn't twice. I can only assume he had some kind of tutalidge from Palpatine. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day I haven't read that series yet... but thanks for the recommendation. Will definitely check it out. And I'm not surprised noone could come close to matching Vader... though Obi-Wan beating him would've been something to see in episode 4. At 10:55 AM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Clement, Could be. Have you read the Jedi Twilight saga that follows Dark Lord? The reason I ask is while the clones not following Order 66 does seem like an isolated event other Jedis managed to escape the slaughter, and cause a lot of trouble before Darth Vader hunted them down and finished them off. Unfortunately, for them none of them were in Darth Vader's class, and Anakin had always been usually strong and powerful in the Force. No one until Luke Skywalker came along was able to stand up to him, and give him a good fight. Although, in A New Hope Obi-Wan let Vader kill him which doesn't really count as we know Obi-Wan could have beaten Vader if he wanted too. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: This is true. I did know that happened, as I've read Dark Lord... which was an amazing book by the way. But at the same time I think that was a bit of a minority event as I haven't come across anyone else who was in the same situation. Shrine and Starstone just happened to get lucky if you ask me. Though it was a good piece of luck and let them start quite a bit of trouble before they were found. lol. But it was nice to see a bunch of clones who had apparently overcome that particular problem. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
I heard that radio drama. I loved it! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. At 04:55 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Hi, Maybe. Its more likely that Obi-Wan was just to old to fight as effectively as he did in Revenge of the Sith. Remember 19 years had passed between Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars A New Hope. Obi-Wan looked to be in his 60's or 70's by the time he met Vader again, and he was probably physically weaker and slower than Vader, or he chose to let himself get killed for reason x. Plus by the time A New Hope had come along Anakin had fully become Darth Vader and probably had learned a lot more about the dark side of the force than he did 19 years previously. If you ask me the reason Luke Skywalker managed to fight and eventually defeat Vader had nothing to do with skills or powers, but Vader's emotional weakness. Say what you will about Darth Vader he had really and truly loved Padme. That made him unable to kill his only son, and his daughter as well. That emotional bond, although distant, was enough to make him hold back and not fight as effectively as he perhaps could have. As it turns out in Return of the Jedi when Palpatine is trying to kill Luke it was Darth Vader who grabs Palpatine by the throat and tosses him into the reactor core. Apparently Vader's love for his son was greater than the dark side and any loyalty he had to Palpatine. It is apparent as early as Empire Strikes Back that Anakin, Darth Vader, secretly hated Palpatine. In Revenge of the Sith, of course, we find out why. Palpatine told Anakin if he turned to the dark side that he'd insure Padme didn't die, but of course she does die and Anakin goes into emotional melt down. Finding out that he had two children who were alive and well went a long way to bring Anakin back from the dark side and why he turned on Palpatine and threw him head long into the Deathstar's reactor core. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
When did Luke die again? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Clement, Yeah, I've listened to the radio dramas. Not just the original A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi but the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight radio series as well. You are right though the ending of the ROTJ radio version is pretty cool. Too bad it wasn't in the movies. Anyway, you've got a point about the age thing. Luke was 40 or 50's when the war with the Vong broke out and at least in his 50's when the Legacy series takes place. He definitely could have mopped the floor with Jason if he wanted too. Let's not forget Mara, who was in her early 50's as well, gave Jason one heck of a battle too. She probably could have won, but I think she wasn't fully committed to the idea this was a fight to the death and didn't want to really kill Jason but turn him back to the light. Big mistake for her since she ended up getting killed instead. In any case the authors decided to go for full drama by having Jaina, his twin sister, finish him off instead of Luke, Mara, or any of the Jedi masters from the New Jedi Order. One wonders what a battle between Kip and Jason would have been like. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
That's not the point. If you aren't supposed to win according to the story then the game won't let you. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yeah. But you want to be able to win all games. It may be hard, but you can still win. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day NOt if it's written into the story. THen it won't matter what you do. If you're not meant to win then you won't. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, Yoda against Palpatine? Hmmm...last time that happened that didn't go so well for the Jedi master in question. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yours is actually better! Long as theres the fight against the turned clones. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Uh... Luke hasn't died yet. I don't know what you're talking about... he's come close, but he hasn't actually died. At 07:01 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: When did Luke die again? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Clement, Yeah, I've listened to the radio dramas. Not just the original A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi but the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight radio series as well. You are right though the ending of the ROTJ radio version is pretty cool. Too bad it wasn't in the movies. Anyway, you've got a point about the age thing. Luke was 40 or 50's when the war with the Vong broke out and at least in his 50's when the Legacy series takes place. He definitely could have mopped the floor with Jason if he wanted too. Let's not forget Mara, who was in her early 50's as well, gave Jason one heck of a battle too. She probably could have won, but I think she wasn't fully committed to the idea this was a fight to the death and didn't want to really kill Jason but turn him back to the light. Big mistake for her since she ended up getting killed instead. In any case the authors decided to go for full drama by having Jaina, his twin sister, finish him off instead of Luke, Mara, or any of the Jedi masters from the New Jedi Order. One wonders what a battle between Kip and Jason would have been like. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
right. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day That's not the point. If you aren't supposed to win according to the story then the game won't let you. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yeah. But you want to be able to win all games. It may be hard, but you can still win. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day NOt if it's written into the story. THen it won't matter what you do. If you're not meant to win then you won't. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Well. If this game is created, it will. On my part anyway. I love that idea! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi, Yoda against Palpatine? Hmmm...last time that happened that didn't go so well for the Jedi master in question. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shane Lowe Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day yours is actually better! Long as theres the fight against the turned clones. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
oh. I thaught he died. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Uh... Luke hasn't died yet. I don't know what you're talking about... he's come close, but he hasn't actually died. At 07:01 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: When did Luke die again? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Clement, Yeah, I've listened to the radio dramas. Not just the original A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi but the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight radio series as well. You are right though the ending of the ROTJ radio version is pretty cool. Too bad it wasn't in the movies. Anyway, you've got a point about the age thing. Luke was 40 or 50's when the war with the Vong broke out and at least in his 50's when the Legacy series takes place. He definitely could have mopped the floor with Jason if he wanted too. Let's not forget Mara, who was in her early 50's as well, gave Jason one heck of a battle too. She probably could have won, but I think she wasn't fully committed to the idea this was a fight to the death and didn't want to really kill Jason but turn him back to the light. Big mistake for her since she ended up getting killed instead. In any case the authors decided to go for full drama by having Jaina, his twin sister, finish him off instead of Luke, Mara, or any of the Jedi masters from the New Jedi Order. One wonders what a battle between Kip and Jason would have been like. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well I seem to recall that it's hinted that he does die since apparently in acommic or something set some centuries in the future he does appear to a troubled Jedi in Force Ghost form, but as far as I know that's the only hint we have so far as to what his fate might have been. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day oh. I thaught he died. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Uh... Luke hasn't died yet. I don't know what you're talking about... he's come close, but he hasn't actually died. At 07:01 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: When did Luke die again? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Clement, Yeah, I've listened to the radio dramas. Not just the original A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi but the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight radio series as well. You are right though the ending of the ROTJ radio version is pretty cool. Too bad it wasn't in the movies. Anyway, you've got a point about the age thing. Luke was 40 or 50's when the war with the Vong broke out and at least in his 50's when the Legacy series takes place. He definitely could have mopped the floor with Jason if he wanted too. Let's not forget Mara, who was in her early 50's as well, gave Jason one heck of a battle too. She probably could have won, but I think she wasn't fully committed to the idea this was a fight to the death and didn't want to really kill Jason but turn him back to the light. Big mistake for her since she ended up getting killed instead. In any case the authors decided to go for full drama by having Jaina, his twin sister, finish him off instead of Luke, Mara, or any of the Jedi masters from the New Jedi Order. One wonders what a battle between Kip and Jason would have been like. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow
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Now I'm curious... where in the heck did you get that impression? At 08:02 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: oh. I thaught he died. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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If it's the comic I think you're talking about, it's based hundreds of years into the future where Luke's descendants have been around for quite a while. And I don't think Luke is going to live for as long as Yoda did. At 08:08 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Well I seem to recall that it's hinted that he does die since apparently in acommic or something set some centuries in the future he does appear to a troubled Jedi in Force Ghost form, but as far as I know that's the only hint we have so far as to what his fate might have been. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day oh. I thaught he died. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Uh... Luke hasn't died yet. I don't know what you're talking about... he's come close, but he hasn't actually died. At 07:01 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: When did Luke die again? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Clement, Yeah, I've listened to the radio dramas. Not just the original A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi but the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight radio series as well. You are right though the ending of the ROTJ radio version is pretty cool. Too bad it wasn't in the movies. Anyway, you've got a point about the age thing. Luke was 40 or 50's when the war with the Vong broke out and at least in his 50's when the Legacy series takes place. He definitely could have mopped the floor with Jason if he wanted too. Let's not forget Mara, who was in her early 50's as well, gave Jason one heck of a battle too. She probably could have won, but I think she wasn't fully committed to the idea this was a fight to the death and didn't want to really kill Jason but turn him back to the light. Big mistake for her since she ended up getting killed instead. In any case the authors decided to go for full drama by having Jaina, his twin sister, finish him off instead of Luke, Mara, or any of the Jedi masters from the New Jedi Order. One wonders what a battle between Kip and Jason would have been like. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman
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Not that it's been explored much as far as I know but I sort of got the impression that the centuuries-long life span was a characteristic of whatever Yoda's race was. After all at the time of his death I don't think Anakin Skywalker was much over fifty, in his sixties at most I'd guess. He was nineteen or thereabouts at the time of Attack of the Clones and if I'm not mistaken Revenge of the Sith took place three years later. And I don't think it was much over twenty-five years from Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi. Obi-Wan might have been in his seventies or eighties since he would have been at least ten years older than Anakin. But no, I've never heard anything that suggested that human Jedi lived much longer than ordinary folks. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day If it's the comic I think you're talking about, it's based hundreds of years into the future where Luke's descendants have been around for quite a while. And I don't think Luke is going to live for as long as Yoda did. At 08:08 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Well I seem to recall that it's hinted that he does die since apparently in acommic or something set some centuries in the future he does appear to a troubled Jedi in Force Ghost form, but as far as I know that's the only hint we have so far as to what his fate might have been. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day oh. I thaught he died. - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Uh... Luke hasn't died yet. I don't know what you're talking about... he's come close, but he hasn't actually died. At 07:01 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: When did Luke die again? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Clement, Yeah, I've listened to the radio dramas. Not just the original A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi but the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight radio series as well. You are right though the ending of the ROTJ radio version is pretty cool. Too bad it wasn't in the movies. Anyway, you've got a point about the age thing. Luke was 40 or 50's when the war with the Vong broke out and at least in his 50's when the Legacy series takes place. He definitely could have mopped the floor with Jason if he wanted too. Let's not forget Mara, who was in her early 50's as well, gave Jason one heck of a battle too. She probably could have won, but I think she wasn't fully committed to the idea this was a fight to the death and didn't want to really kill Jason but turn him back to the light. Big mistake for her since she ended up getting killed instead. In any case the authors decided to go for full drama by having Jaina, his twin sister, finish him off instead of Luke, Mara, or any of the Jedi masters from the New Jedi Order. One wonders what a battle between Kip and Jason would have been like. On 5/7/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, My Son! Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death! Palpatine than says, Vader! I am your master! And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers! I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web
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Exactly what I'm thinking. If yoda lived for 1000 years it's probably because of his race, not because of any force-aided thing. And your estimation of Obi-Wan's age and and the gap between him and Anakin is one I agree with. At 08:30 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Not that it's been explored much as far as I know but I sort of got the impression that the centuuries-long life span was a characteristic of whatever Yoda's race was. After all at the time of his death I don't think Anakin Skywalker was much over fifty, in his sixties at most I'd guess. He was nineteen or thereabouts at the time of Attack of the Clones and if I'm not mistaken Revenge of the Sith took place three years later. And I don't think it was much over twenty-five years from Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi. Obi-Wan might have been in his seventies or eighties since he would have been at least ten years older than Anakin. But no, I've never heard anything that suggested that human Jedi lived much longer than ordinary folks. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I've even heard speculation that Yoda was human at one time, but then you'd have to explain how he turned into whatever he was. If I'm not mistaken shapeshifting isn't an ability any race in the Star Wars universe realy possesses. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Exactly what I'm thinking. If yoda lived for 1000 years it's probably because of his race, not because of any force-aided thing. And your estimation of Obi-Wan's age and and the gap between him and Anakin is one I agree with. At 08:30 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Not that it's been explored much as far as I know but I sort of got the impression that the centuuries-long life span was a characteristic of whatever Yoda's race was. After all at the time of his death I don't think Anakin Skywalker was much over fifty, in his sixties at most I'd guess. He was nineteen or thereabouts at the time of Attack of the Clones and if I'm not mistaken Revenge of the Sith took place three years later. And I don't think it was much over twenty-five years from Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi. Obi-Wan might have been in his seventies or eighties since he would have been at least ten years older than Anakin. But no, I've never heard anything that suggested that human Jedi lived much longer than ordinary folks. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Only one race comes to mind... the assassin from Attack of the Clones who was sent to kill Padme. A claudite or whatever the name was. At 08:47 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: I've even heard speculation that Yoda was human at one time, but then you'd have to explain how he turned into whatever he was. If I'm not mistaken shapeshifting isn't an ability any race in the Star Wars universe realy possesses. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Exactly what I'm thinking. If yoda lived for 1000 years it's probably because of his race, not because of any force-aided thing. And your estimation of Obi-Wan's age and and the gap between him and Anakin is one I agree with. At 08:30 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote: Not that it's been explored much as far as I know but I sort of got the impression that the centuuries-long life span was a characteristic of whatever Yoda's race was. After all at the time of his death I don't think Anakin Skywalker was much over fifty, in his sixties at most I'd guess. He was nineteen or thereabouts at the time of Attack of the Clones and if I'm not mistaken Revenge of the Sith took place three years later. And I don't think it was much over twenty-five years from Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi. Obi-Wan might have been in his seventies or eighties since he would have been at least ten years older than Anakin. But no, I've never heard anything that suggested that human Jedi lived much longer than ordinary folks. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Um, it is almost four days since this topic has been launched and it is still going on, I can vaguely remember last year if Star wars Day came in 2010, for I do not remember seeing something like that, maybe I did not notice, for I have been subscribed since late March. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Shane, Well, audiogames.net is wrong. Yes, come to think of it, I had origionally came up with a Star Wars idea bback in 2004, maybe 2005, I guess was called Jedi Strike but abandoned it before doing anything with the idea. To be honest I completely forgot about it until you braught it up. So let's just say audiogames.net is not exactly the most reliable source for things as their database is extremely out of date apparently. As for what I'm working on, unofficially, I'm thinking about creating a retro-remake of Star Wars Mysteries of the Sith. Essentially, in the game Mara's trainer, Kile Katern, goes missing and Mara has to find out what happened to him. As it turns out Kile has turned to the dark side, and now considers himself the new Lord of the Sith. It is your job as Mara Jade to try and turn him or destroy him. It was a video game I always liked, and have thought about making an accessible version of from time to time. That said, this is unofficial as I don't want to go on record as working on said game in case I change my mind and work on something else. Another possible Star Wars idea I have involves the days following Order 66. In particular its a follow up to Dark Lord: the Rise of Darth Vader. At the end of the book the main character, Olee Starstone, helps rescue a number of Wookiees and untrained Jedi apprentices escape capture from the Empire. I thought it would be sort of cool using a character like Olee Starstone as there isn't a lot written about her character, and I could base a game on how she becomes a member of the early resistance against the Empire and continues her Jedi training etc. Since Olee is only a Jedi apprentice I could add some RPG type elements to the game where you gain experience points and train certain powers or skills as you go along which would come in handy when she eventually does meet up with Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine in the game. Cheers! On 5/5/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Which ones are you working on? Because on audio games.net theres a game by you in develipment called star wars jedi strike. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Hayden, Correct. I was hoping to do remakes of Jedi Knight and Jedi Knight II: Mysteries of the Sith, but they are rather complex games to create. I may still do them, but I've got other ideas as well. Perhaps one using Olee Starstone who was the main character in the Rise of Darth Vader or perhaps someone from the NJO like Jaina Solo. There is a lot of games I could create, but haven't actually decided on anything specific in particular yet. On 5/5/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, That's not Thomas'. He was going to work on Mysteries of the Sith but I'm not sure if those are his current plan. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
hmm. I'm kind of fond of the old idea. But these sound quite good! We need some star wars games! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Well, audiogames.net is wrong. Yes, come to think of it, I had origionally came up with a Star Wars idea bback in 2004, maybe 2005, I guess was called Jedi Strike but abandoned it before doing anything with the idea. To be honest I completely forgot about it until you braught it up. So let's just say audiogames.net is not exactly the most reliable source for things as their database is extremely out of date apparently. As for what I'm working on, unofficially, I'm thinking about creating a retro-remake of Star Wars Mysteries of the Sith. Essentially, in the game Mara's trainer, Kile Katern, goes missing and Mara has to find out what happened to him. As it turns out Kile has turned to the dark side, and now considers himself the new Lord of the Sith. It is your job as Mara Jade to try and turn him or destroy him. It was a video game I always liked, and have thought about making an accessible version of from time to time. That said, this is unofficial as I don't want to go on record as working on said game in case I change my mind and work on something else. Another possible Star Wars idea I have involves the days following Order 66. In particular its a follow up to Dark Lord: the Rise of Darth Vader. At the end of the book the main character, Olee Starstone, helps rescue a number of Wookiees and untrained Jedi apprentices escape capture from the Empire. I thought it would be sort of cool using a character like Olee Starstone as there isn't a lot written about her character, and I could base a game on how she becomes a member of the early resistance against the Empire and continues her Jedi training etc. Since Olee is only a Jedi apprentice I could add some RPG type elements to the game where you gain experience points and train certain powers or skills as you go along which would come in handy when she eventually does meet up with Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine in the game. Cheers! On 5/5/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Which ones are you working on? Because on audio games.net theres a game by you in develipment called star wars jedi strike. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Shane, Remind me what was the old idea? I frankly don't even remember what my original idea was about. As I said the info on Audiogames.net is something like six years old or more. It predates me taking over Montezuma's Revenge and Raceway which is one reason I nver got to any Star Wars games. Plus Lucas Licensing has never given me the green light either. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: hmm. I'm kind of fond of the old idea. But these sound quite good! We need some star wars games! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Remind me what was the old idea? I frankly don't even remember what my original idea was about. As I said the info on Audiogames.net is something like six years old or more. It predates me taking over Montezuma's Revenge and Raceway which is one reason I nver got to any Star Wars games. Plus Lucas Licensing has never given me the green light either. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: hmm. I'm kind of fond of the old idea. But these sound quite good! We need some star wars games! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Actually it was Dooku, General Grievous, Darth Vader and finally Palpatine. Darth Maul would have been more than ten years in the grave by that time. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Remind me what was the old idea? I frankly don't even remember what my original idea was about. As I said the info on Audiogames.net is something like six years old or more. It predates me taking over Montezuma's Revenge and Raceway which is one reason I nver got to any Star Wars games. Plus Lucas Licensing has never given me the green light either. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: hmm. I'm kind of fond of the old idea. But these sound quite good! We need some star wars games! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Games We'd like to play Here is the deleted Audio Games page on the proposed game. Star Wars Jedi Strike genre: Action Games developer: USA Games platform: Windows release: none features: sound last edit by: Richard Description Star Wars Jedi Strike is an upcoming game by USA Games. Here's a description from the website: Welcome gamers to a galaxy long long ago and far far away. Take up your light saber and a med kit and save the Old Republic from the evil Separatests. Your Jedi skills are tested in six action packed missions when you must face off against: Dark Jedi, various types of battle droids, an evil army of Clones, and take the ultimet test of skills against Emperor Palpatine himself. This new high action game takes place during the Clone Wars just before the fall of the Old Republic. You are sent by Yoda and the Jedi High Council to locate and defeat four lords of the Sith: Darth Vader, General Grievous, Count Dooku, and Emperor Palpatine. However, before you can face off with these Sith lords you must fight through an army of battle droids, enemy Clones, and gain the skills required to face off with the great lords of the Sith. Features Three skill levels: learner, knight, and master. Original Star wars effects. Realistic 3D audio. Original story and music from Revenge Of the Sith. Built in speech. Uses Microsoft DirectX 9.0C and the .net framework. Jedi Strike is coming along very quickly. It is uncertain when a demo will be made ready for download. However, USA Games has created a fantastic audio trailor of mission 1, which you can listen through this link. In the audio trailor you will be able to hear the player aboard a trade Federation Cruiser. Count Dooku, leader of the Separatests, first tries to destroy the player by sending an army of battle droids. After the droids are destroyed the player will battle Count Dooku to the death. Despite lightning attacks and a furious saber battle the player wins the conflict and rescues the Supreme Chancellor. Whether or not this game will be officially acknowledged by LucasArts, it sounds like a promising experience! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
who cares! it would be more fun to include him. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Actually it was Dooku, General Grievous, Darth Vader and finally Palpatine. Darth Maul would have been more than ten years in the grave by that time. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Remind me what was the old idea? I frankly don't even remember what my original idea was about. As I said the info on Audiogames.net is something like six years old or more. It predates me taking over Montezuma's Revenge and Raceway which is one reason I nver got to any Star Wars games. Plus Lucas Licensing has never given me the green light either. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: hmm. I'm kind of fond of the old idea. But these sound quite good! We need some star wars games! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
yours is actually better! Long as theres the fight against the turned clones. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day Hi Shane, Uh...Not even close. I managed to find the notes for Jedi Strike on one of my backup drives, wonder of wonders, and your description isn't even remotely close. Now, if you want to hear the true plans for the project here they are. According to my notes I took these down in 2005. So I was right it was about six years ago. The game was basically to be a spin-off of the recently released Revenge of the Sith movie. The game was scheduled to have about 10 levels and you would play the game using various characters. For instance, level 1 was suppose to be the starfighter battle leading up to the attack on General Grevous's flagship. Level 2 you would take control of Anikin Skywalker and rescue Chanceler Palpatine and fight/kill Count Duku. Level 3 you would take command of Yoda and lead a strike force to the Wookiee homeworld to battle the droids there. Level 4 you would take the roll of Obi-Wan as he leads the attack against Grevous on Megeto where you would fight/kill Grevous. Anyway, the final battle would be you playing Yoda vs Emperor Palpatine. I can say that your description of the game is nothing more or less than a roomer. Sorry to dissapoint you, but Jedi Strike was never suppose to be anything like you described. Cheers! On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: Unfortunitly, Dark took down the discription. It was like this though. The game had 20 to 25 levels. In the first 20, you would fight the first ten battle droids, and the second half clone trupers. Then the last 5 were like this. level-21 You get to fight general grevis. level-22 Fight darth mall. level-23 fight count doku level24 fight darth vador and level-25 Fight darth sidious. There were also 3 difficulties. Jedi apprentice, jedi night, and jedi master. Thanks and hth, Shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Shane, Well, as a strict Star Wars fan who would like to stick to cannon as much as possible I most certainly would care. As has been said by the time Anikin was old enough to fight Duku etc Darth Maul was 10 years in the grave. The only way to even bring him into a storyline after that is to use a clone. Unfortunately, cloned super villains are way too common as it is in Star Wars. We've got the Palpatine clone that shows up in some of the later books, there was the clone of Thrawn they were creating in the Hand of Thrawn series, and C'bouth was a dark side clone of the original C'bouth. As I said cloned super villains are all too common in Star Wars, and another one would be to say the least not that interesting I think. Besides that there were enough Sith active during the clone wars as it was. We have Palpatine, Duku, Grevous, Ventris, and of course Anikin is turned and becomes Darth Vader. That's plenty of super villains as it is without bringing Darth Maul into the picture. On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: who cares! it would be more fun to include him. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy Star Wars Day
Hi Shane, As I said I have no plans currently to write Jedi Strike, and had totally forgotten about it until you braught it up. I will say though the one project I am thinking about featuring Jedi apprentice, Olee Starstone, would definitely have plenty of battles with turned clones. As I said the game would take place during the Jedi Twilight series where the Jedi Knights are all but whiped out, and a few have banded together to battle the empire. You would have to carry out various missions to stop construction of the Deathstar, and eventually end up battlingVader and Palpatine. However, as I've been busy with MOTA that is only a rough outline and have no real story drafted for the game. On 5/6/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote: yours is actually better! Long as theres the fight against the turned clones. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
