Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
Hey Thomas, that is truly amazing. Perhaps an Ancient Civilation brain surgery game? Ha ha. A cool topic would be though to discover treasures in like Ancient China though. I was going to release the little game project I had done earlier this weekend, but went to compile it and make sure things worked properly and it gave me around 50 or so linker errors, so as soon as I get time, I am going to go through and try and re-install the IDE and Allegro(the game library) and see if maybe that will fix the problem. It confuses me because last time I had checked everything worked properly and now it isn't, h. Anyways thanks for the info. Bean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game. Hi Richard, Actually, there have been some recently discovered tombs in China that make the Mian and Inka tombs seam dull and boring. For example, one Chinese tomb uncovered several thousand warriors that had been crafted with eh precision of modern day manufacturing work. Even more interesting they discovered a war chariot thousands of years old that had been assembled on an assembly line that hasn't been matched until recent times. Bottom line, historians and archeologists now believe the ancient Chinese were the most advanced civilization on earth for several thousand years. In more recent times there have been rocks discovered in South America which depict advanced medical practices being done such as brain sergeries, and this only proves ancient peoples were no stupid savages. Ancient peoples discovered, learned, skills up to a very high level, and through the centuries through war, desese, etc all that advanced knolege was lost for a time. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.11/944 - Release Date: 8/9/2007 2:44 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 10:15 AM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
And then once you write all those you come out with say a trilogy or something where you have a main game screen which lets you chose from each game, kinda like jim's brain. *grins* - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game. Hi Richard, Well, some of the Egyptian and gods and goddesses names are exactly the same in English as ancient Egyptian like Osiris and Isis for example. However, for the god Set hostorians don't all agree on the proper name for him. It really depends on who translated the name, and I guess there is some tricky reading of the heirogliphs for his name. Though, most historians refer to him commonly as Set. At this point I am just brain storming ideas for the Tomb Hunter game. I like Egyptian history as well as the next Historian, but that is but one possible game plot. I can easily see my new Tomb Hunter character exploring deep in some African or South American jungle, looking through some ancient mountains, searching a desert, etc... Bottom line, our history is filled with thousands of quests for some mystical and mythical item or place like Atlantice, the Spear of Destany, Arc of the Covenant, Excalibur, fountain of youth, just to name some of the more popular choices. I could write an entire series of games surrounding this game character if the games become that popular. If I run out of the usual suspects I can venture into more Sci-fi relms seaking some long lost alien artifact left hear by some alien race that visited our planet in ancient times. Basically, there is allot of options here. Richard Bennett wrote: Hey Tom, well I believe I prefer Apophis to Set. I also would rather have the Ancient Egyptian names instead of the English translations. I also like Ancient Egyptian myths, pyramids, and other things of the time; however, I doubt that I know a 1/4 of what you seem to know about them. Good luck, Bean ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
Hi, I suppose that is possible, but more than likely not. (Smile) Everett Elam wrote: And then once you write all those you come out with say a trilogy or something where you have a main game screen which lets you chose from each game, kinda like jim's brain. *grins* ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
Hi Richard, Actually, there have been some recently discovered tombs in China that make the Mian and Inka tombs seam dull and boring. For example, one Chinese tomb uncovered several thousand warriors that had been crafted with eh precision of modern day manufacturing work. Even more interesting they discovered a war chariot thousands of years old that had been assembled on an assembly line that hasn't been matched until recent times. Bottom line, historians and archeologists now believe the ancient Chinese were the most advanced civilization on earth for several thousand years. In more recent times there have been rocks discovered in South America which depict advanced medical practices being done such as brain sergeries, and this only proves ancient peoples were no stupid savages. Ancient peoples discovered, learned, skills up to a very high level, and through the centuries through war, desese, etc all that advanced knolege was lost for a time. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
Hey Thomas, I've noticed that in the few names we have went over in Humanities at school, now that you mention it. I was under the impression that we were just using the Greek names I didn't realize that some English translations were the same as the Greek names. Thanks for telling me that, learn something new everyday. I do like the idea of the character searching maybe the Incas' ancient toombs, the Mayan's toombs, and like you said many other opportunities are out there. This is a great idea. Bean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game. Hi Richard, Well, some of the Egyptian and gods and goddesses names are exactly the same in English as ancient Egyptian like Osiris and Isis for example. However, for the god Set hostorians don't all agree on the proper name for him. It really depends on who translated the name, and I guess there is some tricky reading of the heirogliphs for his name. Though, most historians refer to him commonly as Set. At this point I am just brain storming ideas for the Tomb Hunter game. I like Egyptian history as well as the next Historian, but that is but one possible game plot. I can easily see my new Tomb Hunter character exploring deep in some African or South American jungle, looking through some ancient mountains, searching a desert, etc... Bottom line, our history is filled with thousands of quests for some mystical and mythical item or place like Atlantice, the Spear of Destany, Arc of the Covenant, Excalibur, fountain of youth, just to name some of the more popular choices. I could write an entire series of games surrounding this game character if the games become that popular. If I run out of the usual suspects I can venture into more Sci-fi relms seaking some long lost alien artifact left hear by some alien race that visited our planet in ancient times. Basically, there is allot of options here. Richard Bennett wrote: Hey Tom, well I believe I prefer Apophis to Set. I also would rather have the Ancient Egyptian names instead of the English translations. I also like Ancient Egyptian myths, pyramids, and other things of the time; however, I doubt that I know a 1/4 of what you seem to know about them. Good luck, Bean ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
Hi Bryan, Yes, there was a god called Amen spelled, a m e n, but sounds like ah men. What happened was over the centuries monotheism, the belief in one god, reached Egypt, and they rolled there gods into one god named Amen. He became the lord of lords, god of gods, king of the universe, etc... He is actually more like the Christian, Juish, and Islamic belief in one god who created the earth, man, etc... Cheers. Bryan Peterson wrote: I could be wrong, but I also seem to remember another Egyptian god by the name of Amon. A social studies teacher in high school told me about him. He was apparently the lord of the gods at one time. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
I say greek myself - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game. Hi all, As many of you are aware I have been thinking of doing a Tomb Raider style clone called Tomb Hunter. However, in so doing I need to change elements with in the Tomb Raider story such as main characters, enemies, etc to make my game more my own then a one to one outright copy of Tomb Raider. For example, in Tomb Raider IV Lara Croft is on a quest to find the Amulet and Armour of Horus in order to slay the evil Egyptian god Set. Set for that game was the primary villen, and is public domain since he is a major character in Egyptian myth and legend. However, as an amature historian myself I know that Set, called Seth by Greek writers, wasn't an enemy in the earliest Egyptian writings. His character was the younger brother of Osiris , and he was the primary guardian of Ra. His roll was to protect Ra from the evil serpent god Apep, called Apophis by the Greek writers, and was a sort of heroic figure. He usually was depicted in hieroglyphs as a half-man half-dog like creature. As the centuries passed he began to take on a more adversarial roll in Egyptian myth. He became jellus of Osiris, and wanted Osiris's wife, Isis, and so he eventually murders Osiris. Set then becomes king of Egypt, lord of the gods, and Isis flees. Where she, as myth has it, bares Osiris a son Horus who grows up to defeat Set, and becomes the heir of Osiris and a god in his own right. A few more centuries pass and in Egyptian tales Set becomes the lord over Upper Egypt while Horus is the lord of Lower Egypt. When Egypt was united historians recognize Set and Horus sort of got melded into one character or a duel god like character. Eventually, Set became associated as Apep, lord of the underworld, and began showing up in Egyptian records as a crocodile, snake, dragon, etc which had formally been reserved to forms of Apep, and Apep falls out of Egyptian writings. I'm writing all this biographical and historical information to get to the heart of what I want to ask. Do you guys think I should replace Set, (Seth,) as the villen for Tomb Hunter in favor of Apophis? I think Apophis, (apep,) makes a much more cool enemy, and here is wy. Apophis was said to be able to change between several different forms such as a crocodile, giant snake, lizard, hippo, etc. He had the ability to hitmatise an enemy with his eyes. He could bite a person injecting them with a deadly venom. He also could curl up like a snake around them and crush them to death. As a super villen he certainly makes an interesting read in the ancient Egyptian stories. As I illistrated above Set has two different basic characters. One of the hero which was the dog like character which wouldn't fit to fight. The later Set has all the qualities of Apophis, but has the added advantage of adding in the conflict between Horus and Set. Though, if I use Set one has to keep in mind this idea of Set as an advarsarial character is totally dependant on time and Egyptian scribes which changed his character by renaming Apep to Set. So if you could pick would you have Apep or Set? One other question I have is would you like the English translations of the names or the Greek ones. In English the gods are Set and Apep. In the Greek stories, later retellings of the stories, they were called Seth and Apophis. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.10/943 - Release Date: 8/8/2007 5:38 PM ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
Hey Tom, well I believe I prefer Apophis to Set. I also would rather have the Ancient Egyptian names instead of the English translations. I also like Ancient Egyptian myths, pyramids, and other things of the time; however, I doubt that I know a 1/4 of what you seem to know about them. Good luck, Bean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:18 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game. Hi all, As many of you are aware I have been thinking of doing a Tomb Raider style clone called Tomb Hunter. However, in so doing I need to change elements with in the Tomb Raider story such as main characters, enemies, etc to make my game more my own then a one to one outright copy of Tomb Raider. For example, in Tomb Raider IV Lara Croft is on a quest to find the Amulet and Armour of Horus in order to slay the evil Egyptian god Set. Set for that game was the primary villen, and is public domain since he is a major character in Egyptian myth and legend. However, as an amature historian myself I know that Set, called Seth by Greek writers, wasn't an enemy in the earliest Egyptian writings. His character was the younger brother of Osiris , and he was the primary guardian of Ra. His roll was to protect Ra from the evil serpent god Apep, called Apophis by the Greek writers, and was a sort of heroic figure. He usually was depicted in hieroglyphs as a half-man half-dog like creature. As the centuries passed he began to take on a more adversarial roll in Egyptian myth. He became jellus of Osiris, and wanted Osiris's wife, Isis, and so he eventually murders Osiris. Set then becomes king of Egypt, lord of the gods, and Isis flees. Where she, as myth has it, bares Osiris a son Horus who grows up to defeat Set, and becomes the heir of Osiris and a god in his own right. A few more centuries pass and in Egyptian tales Set becomes the lord over Upper Egypt while Horus is the lord of Lower Egypt. When Egypt was united historians recognize Set and Horus sort of got melded into one character or a duel god like character. Eventually, Set became associated as Apep, lord of the underworld, and began showing up in Egyptian records as a crocodile, snake, dragon, etc which had formally been reserved to forms of Apep, and Apep falls out of Egyptian writings. I'm writing all this biographical and historical information to get to the heart of what I want to ask. Do you guys think I should replace Set, (Seth,) as the villen for Tomb Hunter in favor of Apophis? I think Apophis, (apep,) makes a much more cool enemy, and here is wy. Apophis was said to be able to change between several different forms such as a crocodile, giant snake, lizard, hippo, etc. He had the ability to hitmatise an enemy with his eyes. He could bite a person injecting them with a deadly venom. He also could curl up like a snake around them and crush them to death. As a super villen he certainly makes an interesting read in the ancient Egyptian stories. As I illistrated above Set has two different basic characters. One of the hero which was the dog like character which wouldn't fit to fight. The later Set has all the qualities of Apophis, but has the added advantage of adding in the conflict between Horus and Set. Though, if I use Set one has to keep in mind this idea of Set as an advarsarial character is totally dependant on time and Egyptian scribes which changed his character by renaming Apep to Set. So if you could pick would you have Apep or Set? One other question I have is would you like the English translations of the names or the Greek ones. In English the gods are Set and Apep. In the Greek stories, later retellings of the stories, they were called Seth and Apophis. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
Hi Richard, Well, some of the Egyptian and gods and goddesses names are exactly the same in English as ancient Egyptian like Osiris and Isis for example. However, for the god Set hostorians don't all agree on the proper name for him. It really depends on who translated the name, and I guess there is some tricky reading of the heirogliphs for his name. Though, most historians refer to him commonly as Set. At this point I am just brain storming ideas for the Tomb Hunter game. I like Egyptian history as well as the next Historian, but that is but one possible game plot. I can easily see my new Tomb Hunter character exploring deep in some African or South American jungle, looking through some ancient mountains, searching a desert, etc... Bottom line, our history is filled with thousands of quests for some mystical and mythical item or place like Atlantice, the Spear of Destany, Arc of the Covenant, Excalibur, fountain of youth, just to name some of the more popular choices. I could write an entire series of games surrounding this game character if the games become that popular. If I run out of the usual suspects I can venture into more Sci-fi relms seaking some long lost alien artifact left hear by some alien race that visited our planet in ancient times. Basically, there is allot of options here. Richard Bennett wrote: Hey Tom, well I believe I prefer Apophis to Set. I also would rather have the Ancient Egyptian names instead of the English translations. I also like Ancient Egyptian myths, pyramids, and other things of the time; however, I doubt that I know a 1/4 of what you seem to know about them. Good luck, Bean ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game.
I could be wrong, but I also seem to remember another Egyptian god by the name of Amon. A social studies teacher in high school told me about him. He was apparently the lord of the gods at one time. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game. Hi Richard, Well, some of the Egyptian and gods and goddesses names are exactly the same in English as ancient Egyptian like Osiris and Isis for example. However, for the god Set hostorians don't all agree on the proper name for him. It really depends on who translated the name, and I guess there is some tricky reading of the heirogliphs for his name. Though, most historians refer to him commonly as Set. At this point I am just brain storming ideas for the Tomb Hunter game. I like Egyptian history as well as the next Historian, but that is but one possible game plot. I can easily see my new Tomb Hunter character exploring deep in some African or South American jungle, looking through some ancient mountains, searching a desert, etc... Bottom line, our history is filled with thousands of quests for some mystical and mythical item or place like Atlantice, the Spear of Destany, Arc of the Covenant, Excalibur, fountain of youth, just to name some of the more popular choices. I could write an entire series of games surrounding this game character if the games become that popular. If I run out of the usual suspects I can venture into more Sci-fi relms seaking some long lost alien artifact left hear by some alien race that visited our planet in ancient times. Basically, there is allot of options here. Richard Bennett wrote: Hey Tom, well I believe I prefer Apophis to Set. I also would rather have the Ancient Egyptian names instead of the English translations. I also like Ancient Egyptian myths, pyramids, and other things of the time; however, I doubt that I know a 1/4 of what you seem to know about them. Good luck, Bean ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
