[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Randy Platt]

Sorry Ken, that is an assumption on your part that Dockett's action were
unprovoked.  And like I said, provocation doesn't excuse Spike's action.

See what I mean, we can sit here and debate this forever.  You are not going
to change my mind and I am not going to change yours.  So I am going to take
my own advise and let the rest of you debate this.  I am moving on.

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kenneth Beitler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:49 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Randy P wrote:

 

 

---

If the shoe were on the other foot we would be screaming bloody murder about
the injustice.  Oh wait, we did, Darnell Dockett come to mind.

---

 

 

What Darnell Dockett did was unprovoked.  Spikes was trying to exact some
measure of revenge (justice) for dirty acts that were done to him, and
ignored by the referees.

 

I don't see any moral equivalence.

 

That said, I hope the team is together, and focusing on beating Vanderbilt.
(I also hope at least one member of the coaching staff is spending his spare
time - if any -- taking a look at Alabama).

 

 

 

Go Gators

 

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

 


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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Kenneth Beitler]

Randy P wrote:

 

 

---

If the shoe were on the other foot we would be screaming bloody murder about
the injustice.  Oh wait, we did, Darnell Dockett come to mind.

---

 

 

What Darnell Dockett did was unprovoked.  Spikes was trying to exact some
measure of revenge (justice) for dirty acts that were done to him, and
ignored by the referees.

 

I don't see any moral equivalence.

 

That said, I hope the team is together, and focusing on beating Vanderbilt.
(I also hope at least one member of the coaching staff is spending his spare
time - if any -- taking a look at Alabama).

 

 

 

Go Gators

 

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

 


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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Randy Platt]

 

Okay, just for a moment everybody take off their orange and blue glasses and
relax.  First, IMHO, what Spikes did was wrong and before you start with the
justification routine, I ain't buying that either.  If the shoe were on the
other foot we would be screaming bloody murder about the injustice.  Oh
wait, we did, Darnell Dockett come to mind. Fans of other schools and the
media are going to play this up, so remember your Gator hide and nut up.
Arguing with these people is a waste of your time.  Spikes lost his cool and
for that he has to pay a price, a half game suspension.  Meyer knows what he
is doing, he realizes that it doesn't matter what he does, some folks will
find the punishment insufficient, but better to send some message than no
message at all.  But so you don't think everyone in the country thinks this
a big deal here is another article that appeared in today's Tampa Tribune.
which pretty much sums up my thoughts on the whole affair.

 

JAFO

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

By JOE   HENDERSON | The Tampa Tribune 

Published: November 2, 2009

Updated: 11/03/2009 07:52 am

I 'm sure by now you've seen the video clip of Florida Gators
  linebacker
  and defensive captain Brandon
Spikes   poking his fingers inside the
helmet of Georgia running back Washaun Ealey during a scrum
  Saturday. It is "must-click TV" in
cyberspace.

To the casual observer   it
looks like Spikes   was trying to rip
Ealey's eyeballs out of their sockets, which I suppose he probably was.

Bad Brandon.

Bad, bad Brandon.

He shouldn't have done that. His head coach, Urban Meyer, didn't think he
should have done that either. You can't go around trying to poke out the eye
of another player, even if he is from Georgia. On Monday, Meyer suspended
Spikes   for the first half of
Saturday's game against Vanderbilt.

Thus ends Florida's chance to repeat as national champion.

I'm just kidding.

Back away from the e-mail program. Remove your hand from the "send" button.
Meyer gave a proportional response. It's a two-bit punishment for a two-bit
offense, and that's just as it should be. Given the same situation, no coach
in America would have been any tougher. I understand not everyone will agree
with that.

For those who want to take this as the latest evidence that Meyer is soft on
crime, though, consider this: If you suspend every player who gouged,
pulled, poked or otherwise did things they aren't supposed to during
pileups, there would be no games played. We'd all have to spend Saturdays
raking leaves.

That doesn't make what Spikes   did
right, but it's also the way the game is played.

Earlier in the game, Georgia got one of its three personal fouls
  when a player ripped Spikes'
helmet off. Meyer said Spikes 
complained that his eye was poked during the exchange, which it probably
was. Spikes' biggest mistake was forgetting that when you play for a program
like Florida, nothing goes unnoticed on the football
  field and people are always
going to talk.

Once the chatter started, Meyer had to do something. Spikes
  seems to understand that.

"I accept responsibility for my actions and I accept the consequences of my
actions. I would like to apologize to my team and the coaching staff and
Washaun Ealey," he said in a statement. "Football is a very physical and
emotional game, but there is no excuse for my actions."

Old-timers would laugh at the notion of Spikes
  being docked even a half-game for
something like this. The stories of biting, punching and gouging at the
bottom of a pile are a standard part of football lore and it has been that
way since the first guys put on a pair of shoulder pads.

I suspect Meyer didn't want to do anything, to tell you the truth, but once
the cameras caught Spikes   in the act
he probably didn't have a choice.

"We understand the game of football," Meyer told reporters in Gainesville.
"Some of us have played it. Very emotional things happened in that game in
particular that were not good for either side, but the bottom line is we're
Florida and he's Brandon Spikes   and
we expect certain things. He understands."

That's the right perspective. I love rushing to judgment as much as anyone,
but I just can't get worked up about this. I certainly can't come close to
agreeing wit

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Rob Alexander]

Nicely said, Randy. I was waiting to read all of the comments before adding
my own opinion (which seems in the minority), but you've expressed it so
well that I'll just say 'what he said'. I don't see why any Gator fan needs
to justify anything to fans of other teams. Spikes did something wrong and
has accepted responsibility for his actions. It happens... end of story.

 

Rob

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Platt
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:01 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

 

Okay, just for a moment everybody take off their orange and blue glasses and
relax.  First, IMHO, what Spikes did was wrong and before you start with the
justification routine, I ain't buying that either.  If the shoe were on the
other foot we would be screaming bloody murder about the injustice.  Oh
wait, we did, Darnell Dockett come to mind. Fans of other schools and the
media are going to play this up, so remember your Gator hide and nut up.
Arguing with these people is a waste of your time.  Spikes lost his cool and
for that he has to pay a price, a half game suspension.  Meyer knows what he
is doing, he realizes that it doesn't matter what he does, some folks will
find the punishment insufficient, but better to send some message than no
message at all.  But so you don't think everyone in the country thinks this
a big deal here is another article that appeared in today's Tampa Tribune.
which pretty much sums up my thoughts on the whole affair.

 

JAFO

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

By JOE <mailto:jhender...@tampatrib.com>  HENDERSON | The Tampa Tribune 

Published: November 2, 2009

Updated: 11/03/2009 07:52 am

I 'm sure by now you've seen the video clip of Florida Gators
<http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/florida-gators/>  linebacker
<http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/linebacker/>  and defensive captain Brandon
Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  poking his fingers inside the
helmet of Georgia running back Washaun Ealey during a scrum
<http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/scrum/>  Saturday. It is "must-click TV" in
cyberspace.

To the casual observer <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/casual-observer/>  it
looks like Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  was trying to rip
Ealey's eyeballs out of their sockets, which I suppose he probably was.

Bad Brandon.

Bad, bad Brandon.

He shouldn't have done that. His head coach, Urban Meyer, didn't think he
should have done that either. You can't go around trying to poke out the eye
of another player, even if he is from Georgia. On Monday, Meyer suspended
Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  for the first half of
Saturday's game against Vanderbilt.

Thus ends Florida's chance to repeat as national champion.

I'm just kidding.

Back away from the e-mail program. Remove your hand from the "send" button.
Meyer gave a proportional response. It's a two-bit punishment for a two-bit
offense, and that's just as it should be. Given the same situation, no coach
in America would have been any tougher. I understand not everyone will agree
with that.

For those who want to take this as the latest evidence that Meyer is soft on
crime, though, consider this: If you suspend every player who gouged,
pulled, poked or otherwise did things they aren't supposed to during
pileups, there would be no games played. We'd all have to spend Saturdays
raking leaves.

That doesn't make what Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  did
right, but it's also the way the game is played.

Earlier in the game, Georgia got one of its three personal fouls
<http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/personal-fouls/>  when a player ripped Spikes'
helmet off. Meyer said Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>
complained that his eye was poked during the exchange, which it probably
was. Spikes' biggest mistake was forgetting that when you play for a program
like Florida, nothing goes unnoticed on the football
<http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/football-field/>  field and people are always
going to talk.

Once the chatter started, Meyer had to do something. Spikes
<http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  seems to understand that.

"I accept responsibility for my actions and I accept the consequences of my
actions. I would like to apologize to my team and the coaching staff and
Washaun Ealey," he said in a statement. "Football is a very physical and
emotional game, but there is no excuse for my actions."

Old-timers would laugh at the notion of Spikes
<http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/s

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Cecilia]

Great article, Randy.  Thanks for putting it all in perspective.

Cee

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Platt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:00 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


>
>
> Okay, just for a moment everybody take off their orange and blue glasses 
> and
> relax.  First, IMHO, what Spikes did was wrong and before you start with 
> the
> justification routine, I ain't buying that either.  If the shoe were on 
> the
> other foot we would be screaming bloody murder about the injustice.  Oh
> wait, we did, Darnell Dockett come to mind. Fans of other schools and the
> media are going to play this up, so remember your Gator hide and nut up.
> Arguing with these people is a waste of your time.  Spikes lost his cool 
> and
> for that he has to pay a price, a half game suspension.  Meyer knows what 
> he
> is doing, he realizes that it doesn't matter what he does, some folks will
> find the punishment insufficient, but better to send some message than no
> message at all.  But so you don't think everyone in the country thinks 
> this
> a big deal here is another article that appeared in today's Tampa Tribune.
> which pretty much sums up my thoughts on the whole affair.
>
>
>
> JAFO
>
>
>
>
>
> Randy Platt
>
> aka "PCGator"
>
> aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
>
> aka "The Other Randy"
>
>
>
> Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> By JOE <mailto:jhender...@tampatrib.com>  HENDERSON | The Tampa Tribune
>
> Published: November 2, 2009
>
> Updated: 11/03/2009 07:52 am
>
> I 'm sure by now you've seen the video clip of Florida Gators
> <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/florida-gators/>  linebacker
> <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/linebacker/>  and defensive captain Brandon
> Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  poking his fingers inside 
> the
> helmet of Georgia running back Washaun Ealey during a scrum
> <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/scrum/>  Saturday. It is "must-click TV" in
> cyberspace.
>
> To the casual observer <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/casual-observer/>  it
> looks like Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  was trying to rip
> Ealey's eyeballs out of their sockets, which I suppose he probably was.
>
> Bad Brandon.
>
> Bad, bad Brandon.
>
> He shouldn't have done that. His head coach, Urban Meyer, didn't think he
> should have done that either. You can't go around trying to poke out the 
> eye
> of another player, even if he is from Georgia. On Monday, Meyer suspended
> Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  for the first half of
> Saturday's game against Vanderbilt.
>
> Thus ends Florida's chance to repeat as national champion.
>
> I'm just kidding.
>
> Back away from the e-mail program. Remove your hand from the "send" 
> button.
> Meyer gave a proportional response. It's a two-bit punishment for a 
> two-bit
> offense, and that's just as it should be. Given the same situation, no 
> coach
> in America would have been any tougher. I understand not everyone will 
> agree
> with that.
>
> For those who want to take this as the latest evidence that Meyer is soft 
> on
> crime, though, consider this: If you suspend every player who gouged,
> pulled, poked or otherwise did things they aren't supposed to during
> pileups, there would be no games played. We'd all have to spend Saturdays
> raking leaves.
>
> That doesn't make what Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  did
> right, but it's also the way the game is played.
>
> Earlier in the game, Georgia got one of its three personal fouls
> <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/personal-fouls/>  when a player ripped 
> Spikes'
> helmet off. Meyer said Spikes <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>
> complained that his eye was poked during the exchange, which it probably
> was. Spikes' biggest mistake was forgetting that when you play for a 
> program
> like Florida, nothing goes unnoticed on the football
> <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/football-field/>  field and people are always
> going to talk.
>
> Once the chatter started, Meyer had to do something. Spikes
> <http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/spikes/>  seems to understand that.
>
> "I accept responsibility for my actions and I accept the consequences of 
> my
> actions. I would like to apologize to my team and the coaching staff and
> Washaun Ealey," he said in a statement. "Footba

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Oliver Barry]

You got to know when to hold 'em

Know when to fold 'em.

Know when to walk away 

Know when to run 

You never count your money 

When you're sittin' at the table

There'll be time enough for countin'

When the dealin's done.

 

Oh, wait, wrong song!  :-)

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:40 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

 

On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Shane Ford wrote:





Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to lose some national
respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in other areas with
media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a "lighter" sentence, because
Spikes should not have retaliated, but in Football some times you ahve to
stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like it or not...

 

 

As the great sage Kenneth Rogers once wrote:

 

Twenty years of crawlin was bottled up inside him.

He wasn't holdin nothin back; he let 'em have it all.

When Tommy left the barroom not a Gatlin boy was standin.

He said, this ones for Becky, as he watched the last one fall.

And I heard him say,

 

"I promised you, dad, not to do the things you've done.

I'll walk away from trouble when I can.

Now please dont think I'm weak, I didn't turn the other cheek,

papa, I sure hope you understand:

Sometimes you gotta fight when youre a man."





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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Oliver Barry]

That's Tennessee!

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:32 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

No volunteers?
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 

 

 

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From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 10:27:06 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

Gosh-Whatever you say. I aint had no grammar in a long time.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:25 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best written
sentence in sports-writing history.

 

As edited:

 

It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire
game; and, the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who
hate anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined
controversy. 


 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 

 

 

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From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:28:47 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

 

It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire
game, and the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who
hate anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined
controversy. 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Shane <mailto:goufgat...@bellsouth.net>  Ford 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Ken,

 

Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension
is being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely
leniant and most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not
clamping down on this.  I've read where people are likening this to the
Oregon plyaer who punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the
team, and they are saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see
it!  but it's being talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second
that Coach is not going to lose some national respect over this decision and
it may hurt him some in other areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did
this as a "lighter" sentence, because Spikes should not have retaliated, but
in Football some times you ahve to stand up for you and yours.  You know?
Like it or not...  Some times, there has to be a fall guy.  JMO..

 

SHANE

 

GO GATORS

 


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From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

This is infuriating.

Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be
punished, especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any
dissension or other problems on the team.. If I had been out on that field,
I would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed


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From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500

To: 

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
game for eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual
Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to
say today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

 



"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is"


 

 

 


 

bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the
face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  

Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 

The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest
of th

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Oliver Barry]

Call me, Shane, if it gets too nasty down there at your office.  I'll come
and help you gouge some eyes!!  :-)

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:52 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Eye gouging at the office water cooler!

 

I love college football !!! 

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a
half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
From: Shane Ford 
Date: Tue, November 03, 2009 9:13 am
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

I know the Vols fans here are like shark in bloody waters!  I have tried to
keep a "I don't care what you think" attitude, but deep down I want to gouge
out their eyes like my hero".  Please know that I say this very
sarcastically.  As I said yesterday, I believe 150% that Spikes was
retaliating against things that they did to him all day.  He has never done
any thing like this in the past and I truly believe he wouldn't unless he
was VERY provoked.  JMO

 

SHANE

 

GO GATORS!

 


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From: Gatornet Admin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:49:12 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

I'm embroiled in a nasty debate over this on Facebook, and it's getting more
frustrating all the time. I'm defending Spikes against a USC(west) fan, a
Tennessee fan, a couple of Georgia fans, and even a "so-called" Florida fan
who says she is embarrassed by his actions. That question (why hasn't UGA
reprimanded any of their players?) even came up there. I'm getting so mad
about the one-sidedness (is that a word?) of this subject, I can't hardly
keep my cool. 

 

Randy

 

- Original Message - 

From: ken...@earthlink.net 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:58 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

This is infuriating.

Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be
punished, especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any
dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed


  _  


From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500

To: 

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
game for eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual
Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to
say today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

 



"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is"



 

 

 


 

bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the
face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  

Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 

The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest
of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 

- Original Message - 

From: Helen Huntley <mailto:hhsga...@gmail.com>  

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
game for eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset
about what happened to him. However, 

I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player
(apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation
were reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the
eye--and Tebow was actually injured as a result?   

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:


Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge


 
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ory=ARTICLES&ArtNo=911029948&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0>  

Brian W. Kratze

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Oliver Barry]

Talk radio in Nashville was full of Gator Haters yesterday.  It'll all blow
over by Saturday.  Vanderbilt will come in to town and get their annual
beating and they'll be complaining about the poor coaching job Bobby Johnson
did.  

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:14 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

I know the Vols fans here are like shark in bloody waters!  I have tried to
keep a "I don't care what you think" attitude, but deep down I want to gouge
out their eyes like my hero".  Please know that I say this very
sarcastically.  As I said yesterday, I believe 150% that Spikes was
retaliating against things that they did to him all day.  He has never done
any thing like this in the past and I truly believe he wouldn't unless he
was VERY provoked.  JMO

 

SHANE

 

GO GATORS!

 

  _  

From: Gatornet Admin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:49:12 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

I'm embroiled in a nasty debate over this on Facebook, and it's getting more
frustrating all the time. I'm defending Spikes against a USC(west) fan, a
Tennessee fan, a couple of Georgia fans, and even a "so-called" Florida fan
who says she is embarrassed by his actions. That question (why hasn't UGA
reprimanded any of their players?) even came up there. I'm getting so mad
about the one-sidedness (is that a word?) of this subject, I can't hardly
keep my cool. 

 

Randy

 

- Original Message - 

From: ken...@earthlink.net 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:58 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

This is infuriating.

Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be
punished, especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any
dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed


  _  


From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500

To: 

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
game for eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual
Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to
say today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

 



"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is"



 

 

 


 

bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the
face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  

Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 

The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest
of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 

- Original Message - 

From: Helen Huntley <mailto:hhsga...@gmail.com>  

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
game for eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset
about what happened to him. However, 

I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player
(apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation
were reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the
eye--and Tebow was actually injured as a result?   

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:


Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge


 
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ory=ARTICLES&ArtNo=911029948&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0>  

Brian W. Kratzer/The Gainesville Sun 

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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Arthur Polhill]

I agree: either way.  However, I prefer separating complete thoughts when they 
are both lengthy.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 





From: Cecilia 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 10:54:39 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


Leon, I agree that this is a fabulously written sentence.  I disagree with your 
punctuation editing, however.  The way Darlene wrote it was perfectly proper, 
including her punctuation.
 
Cee
- Original Message - 
>From: Arthur Polhill 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:24 AM
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>
>Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best written 
>sentence in sports-writing history.
>
>As edited:
>
>It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
>judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
>game; and, the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who 
>hate anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
>controversy. 
> A. Leon Polhill, Gator
>Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 
>
>
>
>
>

From: Darlene Goodfellow 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:28:47 AM
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>
> 
> 
>It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
>judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
>game, and the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
>anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
>controversy. 
> 
> 
>- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Shane Ford 
>>To: gatort...@googlegroups..com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>>
>>
>>Ken,
>>
>>Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension 
>>is being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely leniant 
>>and most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not clamping 
>>down on this.  I've read where people are likening this to the Oregon plyaer 
>>who punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the team, and they are 
>>saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see it!  but it's 
>>being talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not 
>>going to lose some national respect over this decision and it may hurt him 
>>some in other areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a 
>>"lighter" sentence, because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in 
>>Football some times you ahve to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like 
>>it or not...  Some times, there has to be a fall guy.  JMO..
>>
>>SHANE
>>
>>GO GATORS
>>
>>
>>
>>

From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>>
>>This is infuriating.
>>
>>Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
>>them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be 
>>punished, especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 
>>
>>To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
>>dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
>>would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.
>>
>>
>>Go Gators
>>
>>Ken B. (NYC Gator)
>>
>>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


>>From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
>>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
>>To: 
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
>>for eye gouge [Barlis]
>>
>>
>>Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
>>Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
>>today about, as she called him, The Gouger:
>> 
>>"Ok, I go

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Jay Cicone]

That's why I got an 800 on the SAT---the math portion anyway.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:55 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Leon, I agree that this is a fabulously written sentence.  I disagree
with your punctuation editing, however.  The way Darlene wrote it was
perfectly proper, including her punctuation.

 

Cee

- Original Message - 

From: Arthur Polhill <mailto:lpolh...@bellsouth.net>  

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:24 AM

    Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend
Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best
written sentence in sports-writing history.

 

As edited:

 

It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are
making snap judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the
context of the entire game; and, the people making these judgments are
either fans of rivals who hate anything Gator-related or sports media
looking to fuel any imagined controversy. 


 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 

 


--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Cecilia]

Leon, I agree that this is a fabulously written sentence.  I disagree with your 
punctuation editing, however.  The way Darlene wrote it was perfectly proper, 
including her punctuation.

Cee
  - Original Message - 
  From: Arthur Polhill 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:24 AM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


  Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best written 
sentence in sports-writing history.

  As edited:

  It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
game; and, the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
controversy. 

   
  A. Leon Polhill, Gator
  Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 





--
  From: Darlene Goodfellow 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:28:47 AM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]




  It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
game, and the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
controversy. 


- Original Message - 
From: Shane Ford 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


Ken,

Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension 
is being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely leniant 
and most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not clamping 
down on this.  I've read where people are likening this to the Oregon plyaer 
who punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the team, and they are 
saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see it!  but it's being 
talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to 
lose some national respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in other 
areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a "lighter" sentence, 
because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in Football some times you ahve 
to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like it or not...  Some times, there 
has to be a fall guy.  JMO..

SHANE

GO GATORS





From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

This is infuriating.

Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, 
especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed




From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
game for eye gouge [Barlis]


Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

  "Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
   


  bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in 
the face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  



  Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the 
pile. 

  The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the 
rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before 
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and 
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded 
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 



 

  - Original Message - 
  Fro

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[John Vega]

On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Shane Ford wrote:

> Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to lose some  
> national respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in  
> other areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a  
> "lighter" sentence, because Spikes should not have retaliated, but  
> in Football some times you ahve to stand up for you and yours.  You  
> know?  Like it or not...


As the great sage Kenneth Rogers once wrote:

Twenty years of crawlin was bottled up inside him.
He wasn't holdin nothin back; he let 'em have it all.
When Tommy left the barroom not a Gatlin boy was standin.
He said, this ones for Becky, as he watched the last one fall.
And I heard him say,

"I promised you, dad, not to do the things you've done.
I'll walk away from trouble when I can.
Now please dont think I'm weak, I didn't turn the other cheek,
papa, I sure hope you understand:
Sometimes you gotta fight when youre a man."
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Arthur Polhill]

No volunteers? A. Leon Polhill, GatorFriends are the family that we choose for ourselves.




From: Jay Cicone To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSent: Tue, November 3, 2009 10:27:06 AMSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]





Gosh—Whatever you say. I aint had no grammar in a long time.
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur PolhillSent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:25 AMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
 


Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best written sentence in sports-writing history.

 

As edited:

 


It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire game; and, the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined controversy. 
 
A. Leon Polhill, GatorFriends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 

 

 




From: Darlene Goodfellow To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:28:47 AMSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

 

It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire game, and the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined controversy. 

 

 


- Original Message - 

From: Shane Ford 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 


Ken,

 

Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension is being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely leniant and most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not clamping down on this.  I've read where people are likening this to the Oregon plyaer who punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the team, and they are saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see it!  but it's being talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to lose some national respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in other areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a "lighter" sentence, because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in Football some times you ahve to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like it or not...  Some times, there has to be a fall guy. 
 JMO..

 

SHANE

 

GO GATORS

 




From: "ken...@earthlink.net" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PMSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]This is infuriating.Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any dissension or other problems on the team.. If I had been out on that field, I would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator)
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed




From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500

To: 

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

 





"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is"


 




 
bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  
Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 
The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 


- Original Message - 

From: Helen Huntley 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Lots of dirty things go on in those 

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Arthur Polhill]

Just keep writing.  
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 





From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 10:26:51 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


I always wanted my very own editor! ;-)
- Original Message - 
>From: Arthur Polhill 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:24 AM
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>
>Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best written 
>sentence in sports-writing history.
>
>As edited:
>
>It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
>judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
>game; and, the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who 
>hate anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
>controversy. 
> A. Leon Polhill, Gator
>Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 
>
>
>
>
>

From: Darlene Goodfellow 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:28:47 AM
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>
> 
> 
>It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
>judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
>game, and the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
>anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
>controversy. 
> 
> 
>- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Shane Ford 
>>To: gatort...@googlegroups..com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>>
>>
>>Ken,
>>
>>Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension 
>>is being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely leniant 
>>and most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not clamping 
>>down on this.  I've read where people are likening this to the Oregon plyaer 
>>who punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the team, and they are 
>>saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see it!  but it's 
>>being talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not 
>>going to lose some national respect over this decision and it may hurt him 
>>some in other areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a 
>>"lighter" sentence, because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in 
>>Football some times you ahve to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like 
>>it or not...  Some times, there has to be a fall guy.  JMO..
>>
>>SHANE
>>
>>GO GATORS
>>
>>
>>
>>

From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>>
>>This is infuriating.
>>
>>Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
>>them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be 
>>punished, especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 
>>
>>To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
>>dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
>>would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.
>>
>>
>>Go Gators
>>
>>Ken B. (NYC Gator)
>>
>>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


>>From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
>>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
>>To: 
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
>>for eye gouge [Barlis]
>>
>>
>>Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
>>Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
>>today about, as she called him, The Gouger:
>> 
>>"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
>>    
>>
>>
>>bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the face 
>>at least twice. Lots of th

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Darlene Goodfellow]

I always wanted my very own editor! ;-)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Arthur Polhill 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:24 AM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


  Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best written 
sentence in sports-writing history.

  As edited:

  It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
game; and, the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
controversy. 

   
  A. Leon Polhill, Gator
  Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 





--
  From: Darlene Goodfellow 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:28:47 AM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]




  It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
game, and the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
controversy. 


- Original Message - 
From: Shane Ford 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


Ken,

Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension 
is being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely leniant 
and most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not clamping 
down on this.  I've read where people are likening this to the Oregon plyaer 
who punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the team, and they are 
saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see it!  but it's being 
talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to 
lose some national respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in other 
areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a "lighter" sentence, 
because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in Football some times you ahve 
to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like it or not...  Some times, there 
has to be a fall guy.  JMO..

SHANE

GO GATORS





From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

This is infuriating.

Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, 
especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed




From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
game for eye gouge [Barlis]


Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

  "Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
   


  bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in 
the face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  



  Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the 
pile. 

  The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the 
rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before 
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and 
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded 
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 



 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Helen Huntley 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Jay Cicone]

Gosh-Whatever you say. I aint had no grammar in a long time.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:25 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best written
sentence in sports-writing history.

 

As edited:

 

It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making
snap judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of
the entire game; and, the people making these judgments are either fans
of rivals who hate anything Gator-related or sports media looking to
fuel any imagined controversy. 


 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 

 

 



From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:28:47 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

 

It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making
snap judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of
the entire game, and the people making these judgments are either fans
of rivals who hate anything Gator-related or sports media looking to
fuel any imagined controversy. 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Shane Ford <mailto:goufgat...@bellsouth.net>  

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM

    Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend
Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Ken,

 

Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game
suspension is being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being
extremely leniant and most people are saying that Coach has lost any
respect for not clamping down on this.  I've read where people are
likening this to the Oregon plyaer who punched that Boise State player
and got kicked off the team, and they are saying that Spike should
suffer the same.  I don't see it!  but it's being talked about out
there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to lose some
national respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in other
areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a "lighter"
sentence, because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in Football
some times you ahve to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like it
or not...  Some times, there has to be a fall guy.  JMO..

 

SHANE

 

GO GATORS

 





From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
    Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend
Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

This is infuriating.

Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see
something from them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the
only one to be punished, especially since he didn't initiate the dirty
play? 

To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not
cause any dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on
that field, I would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his
players.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

Sent from my BlackBerry(r) smartphone with SprintSpeed



From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500

To: 

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend
Spikes a half game for eye gouge [Barlis]

 

Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at
the Virtual Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is
what she had to say today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

 


"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is"

 


 

bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the
face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  

Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 

The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the
rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse
before taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the
behavior and I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and
Spikes have responded but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's
actions weren't provoked. 

- Original Message - 

From: Helen Huntl

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Arthur Polhill]

Wow!  With very minor punctuation editing, this may be the best written 
sentence in sports-writing history.

As edited:

It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
game; and, the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
controversy. 
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
Friends are the family that we choose for ourselves. 





From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 9:28:47 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


 
 
It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
game, and the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
controversy. 
 
 
- Original Message - 
>From: Shane Ford 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>
>Ken,
>
>Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension is 
>being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely leniant and 
>most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not clamping down 
>on this.  I've read where people are likening this to the Oregon plyaer who 
>punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the team, and they are 
>saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see it!  but it's being 
>talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to 
>lose some national respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in 
>other areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a "lighter" 
>sentence, because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in Football some 
>times you ahve to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like it or not...  
>Some times, there has to be a fall guy.  JMO.
>
>SHANE
>
>GO GATORS
>
>
>
>
____________
From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>This is infuriating.
>
>Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
>them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, 
>especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 
>
>To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
>dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
>would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.
>
>
>Go Gators
>
>Ken B. (NYC Gator)
>
>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


>From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
>To: 
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
>for eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>
>Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
>Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
>today about, as she called him, The Gouger:
> 
>"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
>    
>
>
>bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the face 
>at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  
>Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 
>The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest of 
>the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before taking 
>matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and I'm 
>satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded but 
>it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked.  
>- Original Message - 
>>From: Helen Huntley 
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>>Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
>>for eye gouge [Barlis]
>>
>>
>>Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset 
>>about what happened to him. However, 
>>I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player 
>

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[keith]

Eye gouging at the office water cooler!
 
I love college football !!! 
 

 Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes ahalf gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]From: Shane Ford Date: Tue, November 03, 2009 9:13 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com



I know the Vols fans here are like shark in bloody waters!  I have tried to keep a "I don't care what you think" attitude, but deep down I want to gouge out their eyes like my hero".  Please know that I say this very sarcastically.  As I said yesterday, I believe 150% that Spikes was retaliating against things that they did to him all day.  He has never done any thing like this in the past and I truly believe he wouldn't unless he was VERY provoked.  JMO
 
SHANE
 
GO GATORS!



From: Gatornet Admin To: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:49:12 AMSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


I'm embroiled in a nasty debate over this on Facebook, and it's getting more frustrating all the time. I'm defending Spikes against a USC(west) fan, a Tennessee fan, a couple of Georgia fans, and even a "so-called" Florida fan who says she is embarrassed by his actions. That question (why hasn't UGA reprimanded any of their players?) even came up there. I'm getting so mad about the one-sidedness (is that a word?) of this subject, I can't hardly keep my cool. 
 
Randy
 

- Original Message - 
From: ken...@earthlink.net 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:58 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
This is infuriating.Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator)
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge [Barlis]

Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say today about, as she called him, The Gouger:
 





"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is"


 




bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  


Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 
The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 




- Original Message - 
From: Helen Huntley 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge [Barlis]

Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset about what happened to him. However, 
I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player (apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation were reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the eye--and Tebow was actually injured as a result?   




On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford <go.ufgator...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge
 
Brian W. Kratzer/The Gainesville Sun 
Buy photo 
Brandon Spikes digs his hand inside a Georgia helmet during the third quarter of the Florida-Georga game at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium Saturday Oct. 31, 2009.
By Jeff BarlisGainesville SUN Staff writer
Published: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
 
 
Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes was suspended for gouging the eye of Georgia tailback Waushaun Ealey on Saturday in Jacksonville. Coach Urban Meyer on Monday announced the suspension, for the first half of Saturday's game against Vanderbilt.
"I don't condone (what Spikes did)," Meyer said at his weekly news conference. "There's no place on the field for that. We're going to suspend him for the first half of the Vanderbilt game. That's not him. But we love 

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Darlene Goodfellow]

It's being compared to the Oregon situation because people are making snap 
judgments based on 10 seconds of video instead of the context of the entire 
game, and the people making these judgments are either fans of rivals who hate 
anything Gator-related or sports media looking to fuel any imagined 
controversy. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Shane Ford 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:11 AM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


  Ken,

  Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension 
is being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely leniant 
and most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not clamping 
down on this.  I've read where people are likening this to the Oregon plyaer 
who punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the team, and they are 
saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see it!  but it's being 
talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to 
lose some national respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in other 
areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a "lighter" sentence, 
because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in Football some times you ahve 
to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like it or not...  Some times, there 
has to be a fall guy.  JMO.

  SHANE

  GO GATORS




--
  From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

  This is infuriating.

  Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, 
especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

  To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


  Go Gators

  Ken B. (NYC Gator)

  Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


--

  From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
  Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
  To: 
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
for eye gouge [Barlis]


  Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
 


bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in 
the face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  



Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 

The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the 
rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before 
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and 
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded 
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 



   

- Original Message - 
From: Helen Huntley 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
game for eye gouge [Barlis]


Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset 
about what happened to him. However, 
I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player 
(apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation were 
reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the eye--and 
Tebow was actually injured as a result?   











On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:

  Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge
   

  Brian W. Kratzer/The Gainesville Sun 

  Buy photo 

  Brandon Spikes digs his hand inside a Georgia helmet during the third 
quarter of the Florida-Georga game at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium Saturday 
Oct. 31, 2009.


  By Jeff Barlis
  Gainesville SUN Staff writer

  Published: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
  Last Modified: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 





  Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes was suspended for gouging the eye of 
Georgia tailback Waushaun Ealey on Saturday in Jacksonville. Coach Urban Meyer 
on Monday

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Shane Ford]

I know the Vols fans here are like shark in bloody waters!  I have tried to 
keep a "I don't care what you think" attitude, but deep down I want to gouge 
out their eyes like my hero".  Please know that I say this very sarcastically.  
As I said yesterday, I believe 150% that Spikes was retaliating against things 
that they did to him all day.  He has never done any thing like this in the 
past and I truly believe he wouldn't unless he was VERY provoked.  JMO

SHANE

GO GATORS!





From: Gatornet Admin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:49:12 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


I'm embroiled in a nasty debate over this on Facebook, and it's getting more 
frustrating all the time. I'm defending Spikes against a USC(west) fan, a 
Tennessee fan, a couple of Georgia fans, and even a "so-called" Florida fan who 
says she is embarrassed by his actions. That question (why hasn't UGA 
reprimanded any of their players?) even came up there. I'm getting so mad about 
the one-sidedness (is that a word?) of this subject, I can't hardly keep my 
cool. 
 
Randy
 
- Original Message - 
>From: ken...@earthlink.net 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:58 PM
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
>gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>This is infuriating.
>
>Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
>them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, 
>especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 
>
>To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
>dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
>would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.
>
>
>Go Gators
>
>Ken B. (NYC Gator)
>
>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


>From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
>To: 
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
>for eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>
>Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
>Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
>today about, as she called him, The Gouger:
> 
>"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
>    
>
>
>bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the face 
>at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  
>Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 
>The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest of 
>the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before taking 
>matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and I'm 
>satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded but 
>it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked.  
>- Original Message - 
>>From: Helen Huntley 
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>>Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
>>for eye gouge [Barlis]
>>
>>
>>Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset 
>>about what happened to him. However, 
>>I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player 
>>(apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation 
>>were reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the 
>>eye--and Tebow was actually injured as a result?   
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:
>>
>>Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge
>>> 
>>>Brian W. Kratzer/The Gainesville Sun 
>>>Buy photo 
>>>Brandon Spikes digs his hand inside a Georgia helmet during the third 
>>>quarter of the Florida-Georga game at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium 
>>>Saturday Oct. 31, 2009.
>>>
>>>By Jeff Barlis
>>>Gainesville SUN Staff writer
>>>Published: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
>>>Last Modified: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes was suspended for gouging the eye of 
>>>Georgia tailback Waushaun Ealey on Saturday in Jacksonville. Coach Urban 
>>

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Shane Ford]

Ken,

Who's to say that Coach is not standing up for him?  A half game suspension is 
being seen on all of the blogs and sports sites as being extremely leniant and 
most people are saying that Coach has lost any respect for not clamping down on 
this.  I've read where people are likening this to the Oregon plyaer who 
punched that Boise State player and got kicked off the team, and they are 
saying that Spike should suffer the same.  I don't see it!  ...but it's being 
talked about out there!  Don't believe for a second that Coach is not going to 
lose some national respect over this decision and it may hurt him some in other 
areas with media types, etc.  I believe he did this as a "lighter" sentence, 
because Spikes should not have retaliated, but in Football some times you ahve 
to stand up for you and yours.  You know?  Like it or not...  Some times, there 
has to be a fall guy.  JMO.

SHANE

GO GATORS





From: "ken...@earthlink.net" 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 10:58:47 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

This is infuriating.

Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, 
especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
for eye gouge [Barlis]

Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual Swamp 
works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say today 
about, as she called him, The Gouger:
 
"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
    


bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the face 
at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  
Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 
The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest of 
the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before taking 
matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and I'm 
satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded but 
it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked.  
- Original Message - 
>From: Helen Huntley 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
>Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
>for eye gouge [Barlis]
>
>
>Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset 
>about what happened to him. However, 
>I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player 
>(apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation were 
>reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the eye--and 
>Tebow was actually injured as a result?   
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:
>
>Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge
>> 
>>Brian W. Kratzer/The Gainesville Sun 
>>Buy photo 
>>Brandon Spikes digs his hand inside a Georgia helmet during the third quarter 
>>of the Florida-Georga game at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium Saturday Oct. 
>>31, 2009.
>>
>>By Jeff Barlis
>>Gainesville SUN Staff writer
>>Published: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
>>Last Modified: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
>> 
>> 
>>Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes was suspended for gouging the eye of 
>>Georgia tailback Waushaun Ealey on Saturday in Jacksonville. Coach Urban 
>>Meyer on Monday announced the suspension, for the first half of Saturday's 
>>game against Vanderbilt.
>>"I don't condone (what Spikes did)," Meyer said at his weekly news 
>>conference. "There's no place on the field for that. We're going to suspend 
>>him for the first half of the Vanderbilt game. That's not him. But we love 
>>Brandon Spikes and the team is going to support him.
>>"It's hard. I just spoke with him not too long ago. We're Florida and we 
>>expect certain things. ... I did speak to the (SEC) commissioner.

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[Gatornet Admin]

I'm embroiled in a nasty debate over this on Facebook, and it's getting more 
frustrating all the time. I'm defending Spikes against a USC(west) fan, a 
Tennessee fan, a couple of Georgia fans, and even a "so-called" Florida fan who 
says she is embarrassed by his actions. That question (why hasn't UGA 
reprimanded any of their players?) even came up there. I'm getting so mad about 
the one-sidedness (is that a word?) of this subject, I can't hardly keep my 
cool. 

Randy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ken...@earthlink.net 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:58 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


  This is infuriating.

  Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, 
especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

  To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


  Go Gators

  Ken B. (NYC Gator)

  Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed


--

  From: "Darlene Goodfellow"  
  Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
  To: 
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
for eye gouge [Barlis]


  Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

"Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
 


bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in 
the face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  



Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 

The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the 
rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before 
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and 
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded 
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 



   

- Original Message - 
From: Helen Huntley 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
game for eye gouge [Barlis]


Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset 
about what happened to him. However, 
I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player 
(apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation were 
reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the eye--and 
Tebow was actually injured as a result?   











On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:

  Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge
   

  Brian W. Kratzer/The Gainesville Sun 

  Buy photo 

  Brandon Spikes digs his hand inside a Georgia helmet during the third 
quarter of the Florida-Georga game at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium Saturday 
Oct. 31, 2009.


  By Jeff Barlis
  Gainesville SUN Staff writer

  Published: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
  Last Modified: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 





  Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes was suspended for gouging the eye of 
Georgia tailback Waushaun Ealey on Saturday in Jacksonville. Coach Urban Meyer 
on Monday announced the suspension, for the first half of Saturday's game 
against Vanderbilt.

  "I don't condone (what Spikes did)," Meyer said at his weekly news 
conference. "There's no place on the field for that. We're going to suspend him 
for the first half of the Vanderbilt game. That's not him. But we love Brandon 
Spikes and the team is going to support him.

  "It's hard. I just spoke with him not too long ago. We're Florida and we 
expect certain things. ... I did speak to the (SEC) commissioner.

  "I wanted to move on and then I saw it and said, 'That's not right.' "

  The video evidence shows Spikes gouges the eye of Ealey. The incident can 
be seen here on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISxU8Crulw











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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]

[kenb23]

This is infuriating.

Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side?  Until we see something from 
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes.  Why is he the only one to be punished, 
especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play?  

To hell with this.  As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
dissension or other problems on the team.  If I had been out on that field, I 
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

-Original Message-
From: "Darlene Goodfellow" 
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game
 for eye  gouge [Barlis]

Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual Swamp 
works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say today 
about, as she called him, The Gouger:

  "Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
   


  bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in the 
face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  



  Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 

  The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the 
rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before 
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and 
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded 
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 



   
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Helen Huntley 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
for eye gouge [Barlis]


  Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset 
about what happened to him. However, 
  I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player 
(apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation were 
reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the eye--and 
Tebow was actually injured as a result?   











  On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:

Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge
 

Brian W. Kratzer/The Gainesville Sun 

Buy photo 

Brandon Spikes digs his hand inside a Georgia helmet during the third 
quarter of the Florida-Georga game at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium Saturday 
Oct. 31, 2009.


By Jeff Barlis
Gainesville SUN Staff writer

Published: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
Last Modified: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 





Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes was suspended for gouging the eye of 
Georgia tailback Waushaun Ealey on Saturday in Jacksonville. Coach Urban Meyer 
on Monday announced the suspension, for the first half of Saturday's game 
against Vanderbilt.

"I don't condone (what Spikes did)," Meyer said at his weekly news 
conference. "There's no place on the field for that. We're going to suspend him 
for the first half of the Vanderbilt game. That's not him. But we love Brandon 
Spikes and the team is going to support him.

"It's hard. I just spoke with him not too long ago. We're Florida and we 
expect certain things. ... I did speak to the (SEC) commissioner.

"I wanted to move on and then I saw it and said, 'That's not right.' "

The video evidence shows Spikes gouges the eye of Ealey. The incident can 
be seen here on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISxU8Crulw








  




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2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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