Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
We had great parties together. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: Jerry Belloit To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, June 18, 2010 8:09:14 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] Me too Leon! Although Miami did not seem to me to be much of a rivalry until after the “flop.” Jerry From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 7:23 AM To: Gatortalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] I've been a Gator long enough to remember the UF-Miami annual rivalry game before FSU became a part of our schedule. I'd trade a weekend in Tally for a weekend in Miami in a heartbeat. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:16:16 + To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] Well, if scUM really wanted to play us every year, they would have joined the SEC in '92. They were invited and they declined. I have no desire to play them at all, let alone every year. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: John Vega Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:26:47 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] Your memory is correct, sir. The question I have a problem with is why we didn't add UM back when the NCAA made the 12th game permanent? We had played UM off and on whenever the goofy prior rule allowed a 12th game. -Zeb On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:40 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: If the schedule fell the right way, it wasn't so difficult to win the championship. Unfortunately, we never managed it (except in '84 and '85, when the lousy hypocrites wouldn't recognize our titles). I think they went to seven conference games in 1990, then eight with the expansion in '92. This is why we had to drop scUM from the schedule. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Me too Leon! Although Miami did not seem to me to be much of a rivalry until after the "flop." Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lpolh...@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 7:23 AM To: Gatortalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] I've been a Gator long enough to remember the UF-Miami annual rivalry game before FSU became a part of our schedule. I'd trade a weekend in Tally for a weekend in Miami in a heartbeat. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _ From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:16:16 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] Well, if scUM really wanted to play us every year, they would have joined the SEC in '92. They were invited and they declined. I have no desire to play them at all, let alone every year. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: John Vega Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:26:47 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] Your memory is correct, sir. The question I have a problem with is why we didn't add UM back when the NCAA made the 12th game permanent? We had played UM off and on whenever the goofy prior rule allowed a 12th game. -Zeb On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:40 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: If the schedule fell the right way, it wasn't so difficult to win the championship. Unfortunately, we never managed it (except in '84 and '85, when the lousy hypocrites wouldn't recognize our titles). I think they went to seven conference games in 1990, then eight with the expansion in '92. This is why we had to drop scUM from the schedule. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
I've been a Gator long enough to remember the UF-Miami annual rivalry game
before FSU became a part of our schedule. I'd trade a weekend in Tally for a
weekend in Miami in a heartbeat.
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-Original Message-
From: ken...@earthlink.net
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:16:16
To:
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move
helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Well, if scUM really wanted to play us every year, they would have joined the
SEC in '92. They were invited and they declined.
I have no desire to play them at all, let alone every year.
Go Gators
Ken B. (NYC Gator)
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-Original Message-
From: John Vega
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:26:47
To:
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move
helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Your memory is correct, sir.
The question I have a problem with is why we didn't add UM back when
the NCAA made the 12th game permanent? We had played UM off and on
whenever the goofy prior rule allowed a 12th game.
-Zeb
On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:40 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote:
> If the schedule fell the right way, it wasn't so difficult to win
> the championship. Unfortunately, we never managed it (except in
> '84 and '85, when the lousy hypocrites wouldn't recognize our titles).
>
> I think they went to seven conference games in 1990, then eight
> with the expansion in '92.
>
> This is why we had to drop scUM from the schedule.
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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
It is the only time Meyer has coached against them while at UF according to Wikipedia. SHANE From: "ken...@earthlink.net" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 11:01:04 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] Meyer has beaten scUM, in 2008. Only time we palyed them since he became HC, I think. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: John Vega Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:24:00 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] I'd like to play them every year, as we are better than UM year in and year out. However, our goofy we play a couple times every decade somehow always results in us playing them when they are good and we are not, giving a distorted result to the series. Spurrier or Meyer our coach? Better not play UM. Zook coaching? Let's play twice! -Zeb On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: Well, if scUM really wanted to play us every year, they would have joined the SEC in '92. They were invited and they declined. > >I have no desire to play them at all, let alone every year. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Meyer has beaten scUM, in 2008. Only time we palyed them since he became HC, I think. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: John Vega Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:24:00 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] I'd like to play them every year, as we are better than UM year in and year out. However, our goofy we play a couple times every decade somehow always results in us playing them when they are good and we are not, giving a distorted result to the series. Spurrier or Meyer our coach? Better not play UM. Zook coaching? Let's play twice! -Zeb On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: > Well, if scUM really wanted to play us every year, they would have > joined the SEC in '92. They were invited and they declined. > > I have no desire to play them at all, let alone every year. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
I think when we had the chance to add them permanently, both schools quietly didn't want to, for different reasons; UF - We're on top, they have trouble putting butts (but not a-holes) in the seats - why should we give them a boost by putting them on our schedule? UM - We like to say that they chickened out of our series with them, back in the day when we were good. Getting pounded by them every year would make that claim look weaker and weaker with each successive beating, so let's not press the issue. --- On Thu, 6/17/10, John Vega wrote: I'd like to play them every year, as we are better than UM year in and year out. However, our goofy we play a couple times every decade somehow always results in us playing them when they are good and we are not, giving a distorted result to the series. Spurrier or Meyer our coach? Better not play UM. Zook coaching? Let's play twice! -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
I'd like to play them every year, as we are better than UM year in and year out. However, our goofy we play a couple times every decade somehow always results in us playing them when they are good and we are not, giving a distorted result to the series. Spurrier or Meyer our coach? Better not play UM. Zook coaching? Let's play twice! -Zeb On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: Well, if scUM really wanted to play us every year, they would have joined the SEC in '92. They were invited and they declined. I have no desire to play them at all, let alone every year. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Well, if scUM really wanted to play us every year, they would have joined the
SEC in '92. They were invited and they declined.
I have no desire to play them at all, let alone every year.
Go Gators
Ken B. (NYC Gator)
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-Original Message-
From: John Vega
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:26:47
To:
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move
helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Your memory is correct, sir.
The question I have a problem with is why we didn't add UM back when
the NCAA made the 12th game permanent? We had played UM off and on
whenever the goofy prior rule allowed a 12th game.
-Zeb
On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:40 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote:
> If the schedule fell the right way, it wasn't so difficult to win
> the championship. Unfortunately, we never managed it (except in
> '84 and '85, when the lousy hypocrites wouldn't recognize our titles).
>
> I think they went to seven conference games in 1990, then eight
> with the expansion in '92.
>
> This is why we had to drop scUM from the schedule.
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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Your memory is correct, sir. The question I have a problem with is why we didn't add UM back when the NCAA made the 12th game permanent? We had played UM off and on whenever the goofy prior rule allowed a 12th game. -Zeb On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:40 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: If the schedule fell the right way, it wasn't so difficult to win the championship. Unfortunately, we never managed it (except in '84 and '85, when the lousy hypocrites wouldn't recognize our titles). I think they went to seven conference games in 1990, then eight with the expansion in '92. This is why we had to drop scUM from the schedule. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
By the way, I remember when the SEC season had only six conference games. A ten team conference and only six conference games. It wasn't that long ago. If the schedule fell the right way, it wasn't so difficult to win the championship. Unfortunately, we never managed it (except in '84 and '85, when the lousy hypocrites wouldn't recognize our titles). I think they went to seven conference games in 1990, then eight with the expansion in '92. This is why we had to drop scUM from the schedule. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Yes, they need at least 12 to have the championship game.
They and the big ten are expanding simply because they're tired of being
overlooked the last week of the season while the se c is getting all the
attention.
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-Original Message-
From: "Charlie"
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:32:24
To:
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move
helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
The big 12 now 10 seems to be happy with no championship game. Rumor dujour
has the Pac 10 now 11 inviting Utah maybe as soon as today.
Charlie.
BTW how far is Boulder, CO and Salt Lake City from the Pacific?
_
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Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:10 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move
helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote:
If a conference is small enough for every team to meet during the season, I
would prefer no conference CG.
I agree with your preference, but am realistic enough to realize that the
additional $ from a championship game are too much to pass up.
I'd go a bit further and postulate that the optimal conference sizes are 9
(everyone plays everyone) or 12 (eligible for conference championship). 10
or 11 are just plain stupid, some teams don't play each other, yet there is
no conference championship.
So, assuming all stupid 10 or 11 team conferences move to 12; we need 3
teams to step up to the big leagues (formerly the PAC 10 needed 2 and the
Big 10 needed 1; now the PAC 10 needs 1 and the Big 12 needs - or will need
- 2).
So, who will those 3 be? Utah and...
-Zeb
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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
I wouldn't be surprised if Salt Lake City weren't about the same as some of the Arizona schools. I've driven from the Sonoma Coast to Lake Tahoe, it's not that far. Granted, Lake Tahoe is on the border. Now Boulder, that seems like a hike. -Zeb On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Charlie wrote: The big 12 now 10 seems to be happy with no championship game. Rumor dujour has the Pac 10 now 11 inviting Utah maybe as soon as today. Charlie. BTW how far is Boulder, CO and Salt Lake City from the Pacific? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
The big 12 now 10 seems to be happy with no championship game. Rumor dujour has the Pac 10 now 11 inviting Utah maybe as soon as today. Charlie. BTW how far is Boulder, CO and Salt Lake City from the Pacific? _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:10 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: If a conference is small enough for every team to meet during the season, I would prefer no conference CG. I agree with your preference, but am realistic enough to realize that the additional $ from a championship game are too much to pass up. I'd go a bit further and postulate that the optimal conference sizes are 9 (everyone plays everyone) or 12 (eligible for conference championship). 10 or 11 are just plain stupid, some teams don't play each other, yet there is no conference championship. So, assuming all stupid 10 or 11 team conferences move to 12; we need 3 teams to step up to the big leagues (formerly the PAC 10 needed 2 and the Big 10 needed 1; now the PAC 10 needs 1 and the Big 12 needs - or will need - 2). So, who will those 3 be? Utah and... -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: If a conference is small enough for every team to meet during the season, I would prefer no conference CG. I agree with your preference, but am realistic enough to realize that the additional $ from a championship game are too much to pass up. I'd go a bit further and postulate that the optimal conference sizes are 9 (everyone plays everyone) or 12 (eligible for conference championship). 10 or 11 are just plain stupid, some teams don't play each other, yet there is no conference championship. So, assuming all stupid 10 or 11 team conferences move to 12; we need 3 teams to step up to the big leagues (formerly the PAC 10 needed 2 and the Big 10 needed 1; now the PAC 10 needs 1 and the Big 12 needs - or will need - 2). So, who will those 3 be? Utah and... -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
If a conference is small enough for every team to meet during the season, I would prefer no conference CG. I think the team that plays better over the course of a season should be champion, not a team that gets a hot streak. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Woody Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:45:08 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] I dont think conference size should matter... I personallly think: 1) All NCAA conferences should have a championship game 2) No conferences should have an auto bid to a bcs game On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM, wrote: > Eleven isn't enough for a CG. The Big 10 has had eleven since Penn State > joined. > > Go Gators > > Ken B. (NYC Gator) > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > -- > *From: *John Vega > *Date: *Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:17:48 -0400 > *To: * > *Subject: *Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas > move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] > > Well, it won't go down to 10 for another year; it has 11 now. > > I would think that it could add a single team in time to save the > conference championship. > > -Zeb > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Woody wrote: > > *"Among those that still need to be answered by Big 12 commissioner Dan > Beebe is how and why the Big 12 will be more lucrative now, especially when > it cannot hold a conference title game with only 10 members."* > > Why not? > > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Only one of those two leaves immediately; the other leaves after this season. To keep its Championship game, one team would need to be added before this season, and another after this season. Then again, things could have changed recently, there seem to be hourly reversals of course. -Zeb On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:31 AM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote: They have to add 2 teams with Colorado and Nebraska to replace. I wonder how somebody like Utah and Brigham Young would fit there. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
I dont think conference size should matter... I personallly think: 1) All NCAA conferences should have a championship game 2) No conferences should have an auto bid to a bcs game On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM, wrote: > Eleven isn't enough for a CG. The Big 10 has had eleven since Penn State > joined. > > Go Gators > > Ken B. (NYC Gator) > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > -- > *From: *John Vega > *Date: *Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:17:48 -0400 > *To: * > *Subject: *Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas > move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] > > Well, it won't go down to 10 for another year; it has 11 now. > > I would think that it could add a single team in time to save the > conference championship. > > -Zeb > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Woody wrote: > > *"Among those that still need to be answered by Big 12 commissioner Dan > Beebe is how and why the Big 12 will be more lucrative now, especially when > it cannot hold a conference title game with only 10 members."* > > Why not? > > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:32 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: Eleven isn't enough for a CG. The Big 10 has had eleven since Penn State joined. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: John Vega Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:17:48 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] Well, it won't go down to 10 for another year; it has 11 now. I would think that it could add a single team in time to save the conference championship. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
They have to add 2 teams with Colorado and Nebraska to replace. I wonder how somebody like Utah and Brigham Young would fit there. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Vega Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:17:48 To: Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad] Well, it won't go down to 10 for another year; it has 11 now. I would think that it could add a single team in time to save the conference championship. -Zeb On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Woody wrote: > "Among those that still need to be answered by Big 12 commissioner > Dan Beebe is how and why the Big 12 will be more lucrative now, > especially when it cannot hold a conference title game with only 10 > members." > > Why not? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Eleven isn't enough for a CG. The Big 10 has had eleven since Penn State
joined.
Go Gators
Ken B. (NYC Gator)
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
-Original Message-
From: John Vega
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:17:48
To:
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move
helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Well, it won't go down to 10 for another year; it has 11 now.
I would think that it could add a single team in time to save the
conference championship.
-Zeb
On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Woody wrote:
> "Among those that still need to be answered by Big 12 commissioner
> Dan Beebe is how and why the Big 12 will be more lucrative now,
> especially when it cannot hold a conference title game with only 10
> members."
>
> Why not?
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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
Well, it won't go down to 10 for another year; it has 11 now. I would think that it could add a single team in time to save the conference championship. -Zeb On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Woody wrote: "Among those that still need to be answered by Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe is how and why the Big 12 will be more lucrative now, especially when it cannot hold a conference title game with only 10 members." Why not? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [ESPN]: 6/15 09:40 --- Texas move helps Big 12 survive [Joe Schad]
The NCAA requires 12 teams. GoGators!!! MArk Quoting Woody : > *"Among those that still need to be answered by Big 12 commissioner Dan > Beebe is how and why the Big 12 will be more lucrative now, especially when > it cannot hold a conference title game with only 10 members."* > > Why not? > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
