Re: g_b WRIST BANDS
On the dot , Roger. Besides I think an issue is being made out of a non-issue. Manu Roger F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point is not to identify bottom/top/versitile it's more to identify being gay. Have you never been out in a non-gay specific place such as a store saw someone you found attractive, but should you approach or not? Should you decide to approach and he turns out to be hetero, he may just turn you down, or beat the crap out of you. My understanding with wrist bands is that you don't have to wonder, if the person you see has a wrist band to identify gay the only thing you risk is being turned down. Let's face it straight people don't have to worry, if a guy walks up to a girl to talk does he need to worry about hetero/homo, the answer is NO, if she turns out to be a lesbian she is not exactly going to start calling names or hitting the guy. Do you get the point or am I just rambling on? Roger Ramesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Cooper. Why must we wear our sexuality on our sleeve (or wrist?). Do heterosexual men wear some sort of identification to let the girls know they're straight (hate the term)? It's time the gay world stopped being so paranoid about being able to get the right catch. There's nothing wrong with bumbling our way through relationships the same as the rest of the world does. manu nehru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cooper, I think he was just suggesting that wrist bands or some such thing be worn for gays to easily identify each other and thus avoid running into the wrong guys. Manu doc cop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi yesterday someone was inquiring about coloured wrist bands to show there sexual preferances Why should one where his sexuality on his hand??? hetrosexuals have a wide range of sexual preferances do they wear it on their hands they find a freind and see if that person can b a mate too and tehn explore the sexual compatibility and normally make the best out of it hence why should gays make the sex preferance their identity or the priority in finding a freind cooper - Tried the new MSN Messenger? Its cool! Download now. - Heres a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. - Heres a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers
Re: g_b Blood So Impure ????
I am in US, and have donated blood here. Here they even ask for your history if you had paid sex, or sex with someone who had paid sex, or got paid for sex, or if you had sex with someone from some countries in Africa where no. of HIV cases are very high, or unprotected sex. All these questions are for everyone, no matter what is the sexual orientation. This kind of information is necessary in case you have not been tested after having one of the above encounters. And also, I dont know what you think about US, but it is a very conservative country. - Original Message From: Raj Sahani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:29:38 AM Subject: RE: g_b Blood So Impure Your doubts are true. Even i faced the same kind stuff when i went fro the donation with the Appolos.. The only indication was basically since gays have the high intensity to acquire th Transmitted Disease and nothin elde.. I never gave a second thought abount it and neither should anyone. Only one thing is that there must be some lines in the Form for the straight ppl as well such as: Did you ever go to the Brothel etc.. Dont worry Manthan ... such stupid things do not scare and neither our blood impure... Just dnt give a damn and enjoy.. Love, Raj --- Manthan Kulkarni manthankulkarni@ gmail.com wrote: I wonder if a person with blood sugar level upto 200 should donate blood??? Can anyone throw some light on this. Also I want to know, is there any impact on gay life due to this high level of blood sugar. Regards, Manthan. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of icarius_slade Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: g_b Blood So Impure Hi guys ! Sometime back, i had gone to donate blood at the bloodbank of Lilavati Hospital at Bandra, for a friend of mine, who was in urgent need of it. Before the needful was done however, we had to fill in a (sort of) medical history form where stuff like whether u were sufferring from asthma, jaundice etc. were asked.pretty normal fare. And then, i froze ! Somewhere down below was a qustion R U a homosexual ? I was obviously shocked ! What is the need for asking such a stupid question ? How on earth could a respectable hospital like Lilavati, where all the top filmstars etc. go for their treatment, be so regressive ? I asked 1 of my doctor pals he said that the Govt. of india had definetly not made any such idiotic norm. Then why this discrimination ? The only reason i could come up with was that because of the stereotype of gays being promiscious, we perhaps fell under some kind of high-risk category hence, if i'd have ticked yes, they'd have denied me permission to donate blood, DESPITE me being completely healthy ! But why this discrimination against us ? Does this mean that heterosexuals have purer blood ? For all u know, the hetero guy/gal standing by my side might be HIV+ve while I am not still my blood may not be given, purely for me being a gay.and the patient may just die. I was reminded of one episode in Queer as Folk (the US version) where Brian is denied from giving his blood to save Mike, just because he was gay.If this can happen in a developed society like the US, what abt. lesser mortals like us ? VERY HESITATINGLY, i had to tick the No column, as the patient reqd. blood urgently and there was no time to be wasted on arguments. It wrenched my heart, but i didn't have any option. I had to attend to another urgent engagement that day due to which, i had to push off early. Do other hospitals in Bby, or for that matter, anywhere else in India, ask for this criterion ? What logic does it serve ? Thought that i'd bring it to the attention of every member of this group... Icarius _ _ _ _ _ _ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers. yahoo.com/ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: g_b from DNA: can brands go bent?
I remember the ad. There was a lesbian equivalent as well. I think the brand name was Chelsea Jeans. --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Yabadabadoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm, sometime in the 90's we had a brand of jeans or denims break that barrier in a not-so-subtle kind of way. i forget which brand it was, but i do remember the visual, where we had two muscled (read long haired, rock music maniac, swarthy macho) men, one with his back to the viewer, and one facing us with the look that defied any perceptions of the GAY man in India at that time (which was still not very different from the pinkoo character played by Anupam Kher in a cheese flick early on in the decade). Does anyone one know about it? it was a series of ads, of which one was this. i don't know if it created a furore in the moral sections of the society, but at least it had the i don't give a f$% what you think! would love to get a copy of that ad. Vikram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another non-story created primarily out of a desire to fill space and look cool by taking a gay angle. Still this is marginally better done than some of the others that have appeared recently. Like the HT story (front page lead!) which tried to interpret the Motorola ad with the Dolce and Gabbana endorsement as evidence that Motorola was advertising to gays in India (would have loved to be in the Motorola office when that came out!). Followed by another in HT about how St.Petersburg was now the Indian gay holiday destination of choice. I know quite a few rich gay guys, but they're more likely to go to Panjim than St.Petersburg! This story at least speaks to a few people and explores the issue of gay imagery in Indian ads - though the writer misses out on several old ones, like some print ads with explicit gay angles, mostly intended to shock, a Chlorets ad which I think is now on corporateclosets.com or that Onida (?) ad with a trans character. And the story does seem to acknowledge that the situation is a sad one which should change as attitudes change in India. On the whole, as a gay man, I'm glad to see such stories which talk about gay issues in India in generally positive terms, however much, as a journalist, I might deplore their essential vacuousness. And DNA carried the story well, giving it large space and a decent layout. Also particular thanks to the writer for not using 'pink rupee', a term that particularly makes me want to throw up! Vikram Brands stray off the straight path... Sumita Vaid Dixit Friday, March 02, 2007 23:53 IST http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1082761 ...Some of them are coming out of the closet. Have you seen an Orangee ad? The Parle candy makes men, women and kids pucker their lips as they suck the liquid. In one ad, two men are shown peeing, and one of them begins to pucker his lips, suggesting a certain kind of behaviour. However, it is the candy that compels people to pucker as the tag line suggests `Choos ke khao'. Then there's a suiting ad, where a dude congratulates his pal at his wedding and runs his fingers suggestively down his suiting-clad back. Tired of being straight?'' asks an ad from a Fructis hair styling product. Snap to two blonde girls looking suggestively at each other, spiked hair in place. Worldwide, a `Mechanics' spot for Snickers bar shows two mechanics eating opposite ends of the bar till their lips meet and they break apart Buckle up for what is viewed as homosexual behaviour, alternative sexuality, etc in communications. It hardly raises an eyebrow overseas, but could stir some excitement here. Then there's another ad for Parle Xhale which runs on the lines of adult mint Samarjeet Shimpi, associate vice-president, Triton Communications, says that the ad for Xhale was conceived from the perspective that the Xhale mint charms people. We see all the members of the girls family rubbing against the boy's toes under the table; it suggests an emotion that goes beyond the bounds of charm. The father who is authoritarian figure, in the end gives the boy a certain look that borders on alternate sexual behaviour. Shimpi clarifies again that the team had not set off on that intention, however, over several drafts and retakes, the storyline evolved. The ad was researched and no one found the ad objectionable. For that matter Parle had no apprehensions running the ad considering the ad touched upon a sensitive subject, though in a light manner. Far from it, the ad got a few laughs. As a matter of fact, this is the best ads can do with alternate sexuality in ads - get laughs. Shimpi says that at the moment, a bold subject such as homosexuality could be dealt with in storylines to the point of humour. Overstep that and one would be in a dangerous territory. No wonder, homosexuality rarely finds expression in mainstream
RE: g_b Blood So Impure ????
Shaks... thats not good anymore... So i have to think seriously and start doing some exercises as well. Anyway, thanks. Manthan _ From: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TOM CRUISE Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:02 AM To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: g_b Blood So Impure impact on gay life..due to high blood sugar level..well it causes impotency...so be it hetero or homo sexual a guy wont be able to function properlyas a top' in the sense.. Manthan Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if a person with blood sugar level upto 200 should donate blood??? Can anyone throw some light on this. Also I want to know, is there any impact on gay life due to this high level of blood sugar. Regards, Manthan. _ From: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of icarius_slade Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:43 AM To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subject: g_b Blood So Impure Hi guys ! Sometime back, i had gone to donate blood at the bloodbank of Lilavati Hospital at Bandra, for a friend of mine, who was in urgent need of it. Before the needful was done however, we had to fill in a (sort of) medical history form where stuff like whether u were sufferring from asthma, jaundice etc. were asked.pretty normal fare. And then, i froze ! Somewhere down below was a qustion R U a homosexual ? I was obviously shocked ! What is the need for asking such a stupid question ? How on earth could a respectable hospital like Lilavati, where all the top filmstars etc. go for their treatment, be so regressive ? I asked 1 of my doctor pals he said that the Govt. of india had definetly not made any such idiotic norm. Then why this discrimination ? The only reason i could come up with was that because of the stereotype of gays being promiscious, we perhaps fell under some kind of high-risk category hence, if i'd have ticked yes, they'd have denied me permission to donate blood, DESPITE me being completely healthy ! But why this discrimination against us ? Does this mean that heterosexuals have purer blood ? For all u know, the hetero guy/gal standing by my side might be HIV+ve while I am not still my blood may not be given, purely for me being a gay.and the patient may just die. I was reminded of one episode in Queer as Folk (the US version) where Brian is denied from giving his blood to save Mike, just because he was gay.If this can happen in a developed society like the US, what abt. lesser mortals like us ? VERY HESITATINGLY, i had to tick the No column, as the patient reqd. blood urgently and there was no time to be wasted on arguments. It wrenched my heart, but i didn't have any option. I had to attend to another urgent engagement that day due to which, i had to push off early. Do other hospitals in Bby, or for that matter, anywhere else in India, ask for this criterion ? What logic does it serve ? Thought that i'd bring it to the attention of every member of this group... Icarius _ Bored http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49935/*http://games.yahoo.com stiff? Loosen up... Download and http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49935/*http://games.yahoo.com play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: g_b WRIST BANDS
I used to always think that people would just know I'm gay because I'm so nelly. Some straight people still didn't seem to notice, especially women who have wanted me to date them (to my utter surprise and horror! ha ha). But I think a gay man is usually pretty good at spotting another gay man without anything special on him. Usually the second he opens his mouth, the cat is out of the bag. Peter --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Roger F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point is not to identify bottom/top/versitile it's more to identify being gay. Have you never been out in a non-gay specific place such as a store saw someone you found attractive, but should you approach or not? Should you decide to approach and he turns out to be hetero, he may just turn you down, or beat the crap out of you. My understanding with wrist bands is that you don't have to wonder, if the person you see has a wrist band to identify gay the only thing you risk is being turned down. Let's face it straight people don't have to worry, if a guy walks up to a girl to talk does he need to worry about hetero/homo, the answer is NO, if she turns out to be a lesbian she is not exactly going to start calling names or hitting the guy. Do you get the point or am I just rambling on? Roger Ramesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Cooper. Why must we wear our sexuality on our sleeve (or wrist?). Do heterosexual men wear some sort of identification to let the girls know they're straight (hate the term)? It's time the gay world stopped being so paranoid about being able to get the right catch. There's nothing wrong with bumbling our way through relationships the same as the rest of the world does. manu nehru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cooper, I think he was just suggesting that wrist bands or some such thing be worn for gays to easily identify each other and thus avoid running into the wrong guys. Manu doc cop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi yesterday someone was inquiring about coloured wrist bands to show there sexual preferances Why should one where his sexuality on his hand??? hetrosexuals have a wide range of sexual preferances do they wear it on their hands they find a freind and see if that person can b a mate too and tehn explore the sexual compatibility and normally make the best out of it hence why should gays make the sex preferance their identity or the priority in finding a freind cooper - Tried the new MSN Messenger? It's cool! Download now. - Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: g_b Blood So Impure ???? Please Read..........
That's cool 7 very informative. Thanks though. Monty Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, Please stop doubting Doctors and Medical Personnels un-necessarily.Whatever they are doing is for the best of the Patient. In the process if u felt uncomfortable, remember, it was for a 'good n self-less' reason to benefit 'your patient' whom u wanted to 'help' by donating your blood ! Please read on as I try to Simplify it for Everyone's Benefit: Blood Banks r worried about 'High Risk behaviour: 1. Hetero or Homo sex without condom with more than one partner during same period or change partners one after another, so u may have lost track of the other person's health status, esp. those who go for 'one-night stands'.. 2. Sharing of needles for medicine or 'drugs' 3. Regular visit to Barbershop for shaving where the razor is shared 4. Recent Body-piercings 5. History of receiving recent bloodtransfusion during a surgery 6. Vaccination for Hepatitis B etc.. No direct questions like 'Are u a Homo?' are asked. And if asked, why worry? It is just to remind you that it is 'important' life-style factor you yourself should be aware of, as it is vital for the patient's health, though u do not see any direct link !! Invariably, 'one-in-ten-thousand' person will write 'yes' as answer !! So, nobody is expecting a 'true' answer so long as you reply correctly to your 'Inner Conscience !!! This is all part of the first segment of Donor Selection known as Self-Deferral, which according to researchers is the 'most important' step in Donor selection. Why ? Read On This is meant for a person to 'Read' and decide for himself whether he would like to give blood after being reminded of such situations where accidental introduction of HIV or Hepatitis Viruses might have taken place in his Body ! If so, politely back-up from giving bloodNo questions asked. It is up to you to disclose the reason for which u find yourself unsuitable for blood donation. By giving Blood Donation and hiding your 'status' of 'Risk Behaviour', you might Actually 'Harm' your Friend ! Because one can never be sure of 'his own health' if he has indulged in these activities, reason being: 1. U might be in Window Period of an infection when it is present in your blood and can be transferred to person receiving your blood, BUT YOU YOURSELF FEEL HEALTHY AND WITHOUT PROBLEM, 'till the window period is OVER' and u start feeling ill ! Or you may continue to feel 'normal' and be a 'Carrier of the infection...the person receiving your blood will fall ill!! What Next ? After u have decided to go ahead and give blood donation, a Doctor will interview on 'one-to-one' basis and ask you a series of questions to make sure that you might have answerer Self-deferral questions 'reliably'! If he has slightest doubt, he will 'reject' you as a donor. Next he will examine your Arms for checking any signs for previous needle pricks. This rules out 'professional' donors (who sell blood for money) posing as patient's relatives and those who have hidden the info regarding needle injections.. If one can pass his way thru' all this, the Blood you donate is tested for HIV, Hepatitis B C, Syphilis and Malaria. If there is slightest hint of Positivity, it will be rejected and destroyed ! BUT, BUT, BUT, this testing procedure fails again IF YOU ARE IN WINDOW PERIOD !!! Because then the infection is too weak to be detected. Blood Banks use most sensitive tests for these infections, still there is a small 'window period' of a few days during which infection fails to be detected and the 'unfortunate' recipient of such blood suffers ultimately ! So, we come back to the first point of Self Deferral. We, as responsible and sincere citizens and members of society, and most importantly - Relatives or Friends of the patient whom we are trying to 'help', should answer and respond to self-deferral questionnaire 'most honestly'. In short: If you are in Doubt, Don't Donate Blood You will Never Regret Your Decision ! Hope i have been able to explain it all clearly... So, stop sulking and keep smiling, as there are many other ways to be of service to humanity, than 'overloading' the bloodbanks with such donations that will ultimately go down the drain !!! Love u all !! Monty __ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ - Heres a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers
Re: g_b Blood So Impure ???? Please Read..........
You said self-deferral applies to heteros as well. So how does asking if one is a homosexual take care of 'self-deferral' for heteros who indulge in risky behaviour? On the contrary, does it not make them more comfortable by giving them the idea that certian infections are 'homosexual'. Shouldn't it be more appropriate to word the question differently so that it is non-discriminatory i.e. applies equally to all. The form at Breach Candy very simply asks if the donor has reason to believe he/ she could have been infected by HIV in the recent past. Does that not serve the purpose equally well? One of the biggest perpetrators of prejudice against homosexuals is the medical community itself. I know closely two doctors and one paramdeic who belive homosequality is a 'psycho-somatic illness'. Regards, --- Monty Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, Please stop doubting Doctors and Medical Personnels un-necessarily.Whatever they are doing is for the best of the Patient. In the process if u felt uncomfortable, remember, it was for a 'good n self-less' reason to benefit 'your patient' whom u wanted to 'help' by donating your blood ! Please read on as I try to Simplify it for Everyone's Benefit: Blood Banks r worried about 'High Risk behaviour: 1. Hetero or Homo sex without condom with more than one partner during same period or change partners one after another, so u may have lost track of the other person's health status, esp. those who go for 'one-night stands'.. 2. Sharing of needles for medicine or 'drugs' 3. Regular visit to Barbershop for shaving where the razor is shared 4. Recent Body-piercings 5. History of receiving recent bloodtransfusion during a surgery 6. Vaccination for Hepatitis B etc.. No direct questions like 'Are u a Homo?' are asked. And if asked, why worry? It is just to remind you that it is 'important' life-style factor you yourself should be aware of, as it is vital for the patient's health, though u do not see any direct link !! Invariably, 'one-in-ten-thousand' person will write 'yes' as answer !! So, nobody is expecting a 'true' answer so long as you reply correctly to your 'Inner Conscience !!! This is all part of the first segment of Donor Selection known as Self-Deferral, which according to researchers is the 'most important' step in Donor selection. Why ? Read On This is meant for a person to 'Read' and decide for himself whether he would like to give blood after being reminded of such situations where accidental introduction of HIV or Hepatitis Viruses might have taken place in his Body ! If so, politely back-up from giving bloodNo questions asked. It is up to you to disclose the reason for which u find yourself unsuitable for blood donation. By giving Blood Donation and hiding your 'status' of 'Risk Behaviour', you might Actually 'Harm' your Friend ! Because one can never be sure of 'his own health' if he has indulged in these activities, reason being: 1. U might be in Window Period of an infection when it is present in your blood and can be transferred to person receiving your blood, BUT YOU YOURSELF FEEL HEALTHY AND WITHOUT PROBLEM, 'till the window period is OVER' and u start feeling ill ! Or you may continue to feel 'normal' and be a 'Carrier of the infection...the person receiving your blood will fall ill!! What Next ? After u have decided to go ahead and give blood donation, a Doctor will interview on 'one-to-one' basis and ask you a series of questions to make sure that you might have answerer Self-deferral questions 'reliably'! If he has slightest doubt, he will 'reject' you as a donor. Next he will examine your Arms for checking any signs for previous needle pricks. This rules out 'professional' donors (who sell blood for money) posing as patient's relatives and those who have hidden the info regarding needle injections.. If one can pass his way thru' all this, the Blood you donate is tested for HIV, Hepatitis B C, Syphilis and Malaria. If there is slightest hint of Positivity, it will be rejected and destroyed ! BUT, BUT, BUT, this testing procedure fails again IF YOU ARE IN WINDOW PERIOD !!! Because then the infection is too weak to be detected. Blood Banks use most sensitive tests for these infections, still there is a small 'window period' of a few days during which infection fails to be detected and the 'unfortunate' recipient of such blood suffers ultimately ! So, we come back to the first point of Self Deferral. We, as responsible and sincere citizens and members of society, and most importantly - Relatives or Friends of the patient whom we are trying to 'help', should answer and respond to self-deferral questionnaire 'most honestly'. In short: If you are in Doubt, Don't Donate Blood You will Never Regret Your Decision ! Hope i have been able to
