Re: gEDA-user: Using polygons for creating a ground plane by hand

2007-03-25 Thread Jeremy Pedersen

Use the 'q' key to change pins/pads from round to square and back.


Oh okay: thanks. I guess I'd better go ahead and convert all of these vias
and my silk layer stuff to elements first.


Yup.


Okay then. I know what to do about the ground plane now.

Thanks much,
Jeremy


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Re: gEDA-user: Trick to add sick text to PCB

2007-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie

> If anyone is interested, here is a little trick to add some text in
> the silkscreen of your PCB layout.

You can use the text tool to just write on the silk layer now.


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Re: gEDA-user: Using polygons for creating a ground plane by hand

2007-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie

> Oh, maybe I should clarify: The pcb I am recreating has components with
> square pads: that is what I am trying to do.

Use the 'q' key to change pins/pads from round to square and back.

> Also, if I wanted to have this manufactured and I only wanted to pay for a
> two layer board (after all, the original pcb is only two layers), would I
> only want to use the "component" and "solder" layers for the board?

Yup.

> This would mean I would place the bottom-side traces in the
> groundplane (with some clearance, of course)...is this correct?

Yup.


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gEDA-user: Trick to add sick text to PCB

2007-03-25 Thread Jason Aron
First, I'd like to thank the developers of PCB and gEDA.  These tools are VERY 
nice, and I'm glad someone has made this software for linux.  Thanks for the 
work and all of the support.   If anyone is interested, here is a little trick 
to add some text in the silkscreen of your PCB layout.  The text can say 
anything you want and can be any size.  The trick is: in both your schematic 
and layout, add a component which has no pins and doesn't connect to anything.  
The text should be contained in the RefDes of the footprint and will be 
included as silkscreen on the layout.  I've got a design on sourceforge that's 
a good demonstration of this.  The design is at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wireless-usb The schematic symbol should be 
called "text.sym" and contain:v 20061020 1T 1700 2100 8 10 1 1 0 6 
1refdes=TEXT-HERET 300 2100 9 10 1 0 0 0 1silkscreen_textT 300 2100 5 10 0 0 0 
0 1footprint=text_footprint The footprint file should be called 
"text_footprint" and contain:Element[0x0 "text" "" "" 0 0 -5830 -9846 0 110 
0x0](ElementLine[25600 9450 -25600 9450 800])Of course there are hundreds of 
ways to modify this code and get the same result... I am using an old version 
of PCB from the debian database, so this function may have been included in 
newer releases.  I've noticed in the lists, that a number of good functions 
have been added since debian grabbed their version.   Hope people find this 
useful.Jason

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Re: gEDA-user: Using polygons for creating a ground plane by hand

2007-03-25 Thread Jeremy Pedersen

Oh, maybe I should clarify: The pcb I am recreating has components with
square pads: that is what I am trying to do. I have done this by placing a
rectangle around a via in the component layer and also in the solder layer.
I am using the component layer as my "top" layer and the solder layer as my
"bottom" layer. I am then eliminating the clearance between the via and the
copper. Is this the wrong way to do this?

Also, if I wanted to have this manufactured and I only wanted to pay for a
two layer board (after all, the original pcb is only two layers), would I
only want to use the "component" and "solder" layers for the board? This
would mean I would place the bottom-side traces in the groundplane (with
some clearance, of course)...is this correct? I am still a little confused.

Thanks a lot,
Jeremy


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB: DRC

2007-03-25 Thread Dan McMahill

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

Hello there,

On applying DRC on the tut1.pcb of the new snapshot: pcb-20070208p1,
it spits more errors/warning compared to the old snapshot:
pcb-20060822.

Has anything changed in that perspective in this latest snapshot?


what are the new errors?

-Dan


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Re: gEDA-user: Using polygons for creating a ground plane by hand

2007-03-25 Thread Steve Meier
Jeremy,

Create a polygon around your via. Make sure you have the polygons layer
active. Now use the therm tool to click on the via.

Steve M.

Jeremy Pedersen wrote:
> Ok, so the solder mask is a coating, and if I choose I could simply
> order a board without one. I suppose the advantages would be that it
> (obviously) keeps you from soldering where you shouldn't, and also
> keeps the board clean looking and prevents corrosion. And I suppose
> that since I've already made all of the elements, it wouldn't be too
> difficult to ensure the spacings between the pins and then make them
> into elements.
>
> >If it's the lesstif version, it's in the Tools menu.  In the GTK
> >version, you can use the buttons on the left.
>
> Ok. Is it the THRM button? If so, I can't get it to work. I click it,
> and it gives me a small black symbol resembling Germany's Iron Cross
> (if you're familiar with that symbol). If I place this over a via and
> left click, right click, or shift (and left click), nothing happens. I
> will see if I can find out about this tool in the documentation, but
> do you have any idea what I might be doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy
> 
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Re: gEDA-user: Using polygons for creating a ground plane by hand

2007-03-25 Thread ldoolitt
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:50:57AM -0400, Jeremy Pedersen wrote:
> >If it's the lesstif version, it's in the Tools menu.  In the GTK
> >version, you can use the buttons on the left.
> 
> Ok. Is it the THRM button? If so, I can't get it to work. I click it, and it
> gives me a small black symbol resembling Germany's Iron Cross (if you're
> familiar with that symbol). If I place this over a via and left click, right
> click, or shift (and left click), nothing happens. I will see if I can find
> out about this tool in the documentation, but do you have any idea what I
> might be doing wrong?

Each layer/via pair has its own THRM status.  Select the layer
containing your ground plane, then click with the THRM tool.

   - Larry


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Re: gEDA-user: Using polygons for creating a ground plane by hand

2007-03-25 Thread Jeremy Pedersen

Ok, so the solder mask is a coating, and if I choose I could simply order a
board without one. I suppose the advantages would be that it (obviously)
keeps you from soldering where you shouldn't, and also keeps the board clean
looking and prevents corrosion. And I suppose that since I've already made
all of the elements, it wouldn't be too difficult to ensure the spacings
between the pins and then make them into elements.


If it's the lesstif version, it's in the Tools menu.  In the GTK
version, you can use the buttons on the left.


Ok. Is it the THRM button? If so, I can't get it to work. I click it, and it
gives me a small black symbol resembling Germany's Iron Cross (if you're
familiar with that symbol). If I place this over a via and left click, right
click, or shift (and left click), nothing happens. I will see if I can find
out about this tool in the documentation, but do you have any idea what I
might be doing wrong?

Thanks,
Jeremy


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Re: gEDA-user: My footprint generator

2007-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie

> So, when people use footprints with .fp in the name you actually use 
> footprint=SMDIP4.fp ?

Yup.  I added the .fp for the web server, we haven't fully migrated to
it yet.  I think some of the tools will look for "foo" and "foo.fp" if
you don't specify .fp though.


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gEDA-user: pcb: default_font

2007-03-25 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH

Hello there,

I've successfully compiled the latest snapshot 20070208. However on
executing pcb I get :
Looking for default_font in .
Can't open ./default_font for reading
Looking for default_font in /usr/bin/../share/pcb
Found default_font in /usr/bin/../share/pcb
on a "log" dialog.

I would like to remove that log window each time a user firing pcb.

I thought that applying the following patch could solve it. But it didn't.

--- src/Pcb.ad.in   2006-08-02 17:55:17.0 +0200
+++ Pcb.ad.in   2007-03-25 14:46:41.0 +0200
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
Pcb.filePath:   .
Pcb.fontCommand:M4PATH='%p';export M4PATH;echo
'include(%f)' | @gnum4@
Pcb.fontFile:   @fontfilename@
-Pcb.fontPath:   .:@pcblibdir@
+Pcb.fontPath:   @pcblibdir@
[...]

What should I do to remove that log window ? Most of the time my users
think that this is an error instead of a mere warning to ignore.

regards,
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gEDA-user: PCB: DRC

2007-03-25 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH

Hello there,

On applying DRC on the tut1.pcb of the new snapshot: pcb-20070208p1,
it spits more errors/warning compared to the old snapshot:
pcb-20060822.

Has anything changed in that perspective in this latest snapshot?

regards,
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