Re: [brlug-general] Rasp Pi POE

[Tim Fournet]

A USB power bank will also do the trick


On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:00 PM Shannon Roddy  wrote:

> Have you thought about...
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/introducing-power-over-ethernet-poe-hat/
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:25 PM Mark A. Lappin  wrote:
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>> Anybody ever tried one of these….with or without success?
>>
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>> https://www.adafruit.com/product/3785?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1Nb_0IrK3gIVzZ-zCh0CngRyEAQYBCABEgKYS_D_BwE=IwAR2XfGmIT2aBbhcZ36iMIcE97qc9MsePArHFpqDKraQJXyF4YW0S_1ntKQg
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>>
>> I have some field deployed Raspberry PI’s that I need to run 24/7 to get
>> updates overnight, however, AC power where they are is not 24/7 and is
>> turned off with overhead lights at night.
>>
>>
>>
>> MOST of them I have data runs to and POE switches in those locations so
>> looking for a way to run a raspberry pi with PoE.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts
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Re: [brlug-general] How goes Linux land? :)

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Great, in Azure!
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-now-dominates-azure/


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Re: [brlug-general] ESET AV

[Tim Fournet]

We ran ESET for a few years but switched to WebRoot about 2 years ago
because several viruses made it through. Haven't had any infections on
WebRoot so far

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Adam Foster  wrote:

> We used ESET at my previous job.  Worked very well client didn't seem to
> bloated.  We never setup the server administration so I can't speak on it.
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Mark A. Lappin  wrote:
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>> ​Anybody using ESET for business for their AV solution?
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Re: [brlug-general] Everybody here use Perl for general scripting or.. ?

[Tim Fournet]

https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Joey Kelly  wrote:

> Perl. Lots of it. A little ansible too.
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Re: [brlug-general] Are you using MySQL or.. have you moved to something else?

[Tim Fournet]

MariaDB when the application needs MySQL. Otherwise the preference is
postgres

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Jeffrey Lee  wrote:

> Most of my applications are using PostgreSQL because of the GIS functions.
> I still have a few applications using MySQL but rarely spin up a new app
> with it.
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody a Spiceworks pro? We have some questions for a customer. Thanks!

[Tim Fournet]

Nice. Be sure to make use of www.labtechgeek.com and the slack channel

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> *From:* General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On Behalf Of *Tim
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:23 AM
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> *To:* general@brlug.net
> *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Anybody a Spiceworks pro? We have some
> questions for a customer. Thanks!
>
>
>
> Haven't touched it in years. Don't you guys use Labtech/ConnectWise? You
> could sub-lease agents to them and set up StreamlineIT
>
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> wrote:
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> We have about 30 questions actually. A project customer is looking to
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> this one.
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> *From:* General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On Behalf Of *Lance
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> *Sent:* Friday, September 2, 2016 6:00 PM
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> *To:* general@brlug.net
> *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Anybody a Spiceworks pro? We have some
> questions for a customer. Thanks!
>
>
>
> The default scan settings are not friendly.
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>
>
> What’s the question?  I don’t know about SpiceWorks pro but I am a
> SpiceWorks user.
>
>
>
> *From:* General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net
> <general-boun...@brlug.net>] *On Behalf Of *Mark A. Lappin
> *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2016 17:46
> *To:* general@brlug.net
> *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Anybody a Spiceworks pro? We have some
> questions for a customer. Thanks!
>
>
>
> I stopped using it.  It was running out of control on my network and I was
> getting accounts getting locked, it was a huge bandwidth hog across the WAN
> when it tried to do scans.
>
> Won’t touch it!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody a Spiceworks pro? We have some questions for a customer. Thanks!

[Tim Fournet]

Haven't touched it in years. Don't you guys use Labtech/ConnectWise? You
could sub-lease agents to them and set up StreamlineIT

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Dustin Puryear 
wrote:

> We have about 30 questions actually. A project customer is looking to
> deploy it. They asked for our help but we aren’t pros in it so we told them
> we would find somebody that is. I think we found a guru up in Canada for
> this one.
>
>
>
> Dustin Puryear
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> *1779 Government St.Baton Rouge, LA 70802*
> 
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> *From:* General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On Behalf Of *Lance
> Lambert
> *Sent:* Friday, September 2, 2016 6:00 PM
>
> *To:* general@brlug.net
> *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Anybody a Spiceworks pro? We have some
> questions for a customer. Thanks!
>
>
>
> The default scan settings are not friendly.
>
>
>
> What’s the question?  I don’t know about SpiceWorks pro but I am a
> SpiceWorks user.
>
>
>
> *From:* General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net
> ] *On Behalf Of *Mark A. Lappin
> *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2016 17:46
> *To:* general@brlug.net
> *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Anybody a Spiceworks pro? We have some
> questions for a customer. Thanks!
>
>
>
> I stopped using it.  It was running out of control on my network and I was
> getting accounts getting locked, it was a huge bandwidth hog across the WAN
> when it tried to do scans.
>
> Won’t touch it!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Mark A. Lappin, CCNA, MCITP: Enterprise Administrator*
> Director of Information Technology
> Lee Michaels Fine Jewelry - Corporate Office
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> *From:* General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net
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> *Subject:* [brlug-general] Anybody a Spiceworks pro? We have some
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dustin Puryear
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Re: [brlug-general] DBA seeking opportunities

[Tim Fournet]

If she has MS-SQL experience, we sometimes have need for someone that can
dig into performance issues to identify whether performance issues are the
result of DB errors or misconfigurations. It would only be on a rare
case-by-case issue, but if she's interested, please send me her contact
info.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Jarred White jarredwh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all, I have a friend whose mom is a seasoned DBA veteran who has
 been in the industry for nearly 40 years. She has worked for a variety
 of public/private sector companies including the US Marine Corps,
 MITRE Corp., CSC, AMTRAK, etc. and is trying to find opportunities
 stateside before leaving the country. I think I sent an email
 (accidentally last time) about this to the list a while back but
 thought I'd ask again if there's anyone looking for roles like this.

 Thanks!
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Re: [brlug-general] old tapes

[Tim Fournet]

Cut the tape, and feed one end into the paper shredder. Don't forget to
video the process


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  We pay a company to handle all of our HD destruction. It’s a gruesome,
 scary process as they run the drives through the metal shredders. Bill, can
 you email Mark?




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 *Sent:* Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:12 PM
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Re: [brlug-general] Spearfishing

[Tim Fournet]

To be more direct, the protocols that define email are horribly out of date
and have no place in the modern world. If email is to ever going to have
any remote possibility of being secured, SMTP needs to be completely thrown
out the window in favor or something else. The protocols are broken, there
is no TRUE and 100% accepted way of verifying senders, and it's horrible
for sending or linking files. Of course, that ain't gonna happen any time
soon, unfortunately



On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Edmund Cramp e...@motion-labs.com wrote:

 The reply from the customer support is *“Currently, our system is set to
 send the remittances in the secure format.  The only other option would be
 for us to change the format to non-secure, this way the email won’t contain
 any html files.”*



 This brings to mind a tagline that used to appear in the ASR newsgroup …
 I would like to shake the hand of the man who first decided that e-mail
 clients should slice, dice and run arbitrary programs. Then I'd like to
 stir, blend and puree his hand.



 ROT-13 would be a lot less dangerous and probably more secure  - V jbhyq
 yvxr gb funxr gur unaq bs gur zna jub svefg qrpvqrq gung r-znvy pyvragf
 fubhyq fyvpr, qvpr naq eha neovgenel cebtenzf. Gura V'q yvxr gb fgve, oyraq
 naq cherr uvf unaq.





 *From:* General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On Behalf Of *Shannon
 Roddy
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 04, 2013 1:33 PM

 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Spearfishing



 It appears to me to be Cisco IronPort.



 http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/19588



 Yuck.



 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Jarred White jarredwh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 It looks to be legit, but what an awful freaking idea BofA.

 http://securemsg.bankofamerica.com/Secure_Email_Recipient_Guide_en.pdf



 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Keith Stokes ke...@digital-gurus.com
 wrote:

 Yes, unfortunately it is this easy.



 On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Edmund Cramp e...@motion-labs.com wrote:



 A user received an email that purports to come from one of our customers
 with the instructions:

 Click the securedoc.html attachment to open (view) the secure message.
 For best results, save the file first and open it from the saved location
 using a Web browser.

 My email system, very sensibly stripped and quarantined the file, and
 stored it with  a couple of hundred of assorted New Order.zip and payroll
 report.xls files in the quarantine directory.  Opening the file with
 notepad shows it to be mostly javascript with various references that make
 it appear to come from the Bank of America.

 My immediate reaction was unprintable but hell, assuming that it's real
 and that's not certain yet, these people want me to let users open any HTML
 web page that floats into their inbox?

 This has got to be a gift from the gods if you are up to mischief - just
 email everyone a securedoc.html file and they will open it and enter their
 password ... which javascript (love that stuff) will promptly send to the
 web site of your choice.

 Spearfishing is this easy?

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Re: [brlug-general] Professional Data Recovery in BR or NO?

[Tim Fournet]

We have used these guys in Lafayette, and they've been able to restore a
good bit of stuff. http://www.pcrecoveryllc.com/




On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Edmund Cramp e...@motion-labs.com wrote:

 I suspect that you need to look further afield.  You could ask the drive
 manufacturer who they would recommend.

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 I always say that there are two types of users, those who have lost data …
 and those who are going to lose data.

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 *From:* General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On Behalf Of *Karthik
 Poobal
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:35 PM
 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* [brlug-general] Professional Data Recovery in BR or NO?

 ** **

 Looking for a profession Data Recovery service around BR or NO area. The
 info is for a student at LSU. Apparently, some very critical data was
 stored on a external drive and the drive is clicking and it's not readable.
 It's the usual story. No backup and months of work probably lost.  

 ** **

 Any service recommendations or experiences? 

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Re: [brlug-general] Digital Ocean

[Tim Fournet]

you should buy a dashcam


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Ray DeJean rdej...@gmail.com wrote:

 Probably have to move to Russia also.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Jarred White jarredwh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sweet tip. Thanks.

 While we're on the subject I recommend anything in Iceland if you value
 privacy. I think by now most of us have heard what happened to LavaBit.


 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Brad Bendily bend...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, years ago I created a slice at Slicehost to run my personal website
 and
 have root on a box somewhere. A few years ago, Rackspace bought Slicehost
 and then about
 a year ago my VM was moved into the Rackspace managed site. Which has
 been working fine.
 In fact, my cost from slicehost to rackspace was cut in half because of
 the difference in
 rackspace's pricing model. So, i went from $20/month to $11 or so.
 But, that slice runs an older Gentoo and i can't seem to get it to
 upgrade with an emerge.
 To much stuff fails, i fought it for a while but gave up.
 Then I found this site:
 https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing

 For the same price i'm currently paying, $10/mo. I can triple my current
 specs. or for half the price, i can double my specs. So, for $10/mo. i've
 created a CentOS 6.4 droplet. 1GBmem. 1 CPU, 30GB SSD Disk with 2TB
 transfer.
 My current slice is 256m, 10gb, 1TB, 4xcpu.

 So far so good. There are less OS choices than rackspace, but enough
 options.
 If I build a new VM at rackspace, it would be $16/mo. Rackspace doesn't
 have the VM choice that
 I currently have.

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Re: [brlug-general] WAP unit that segments network

[Tim Fournet]

Try the D-Link DAP access points starting with the DAP-2553. I believe they
do this


On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

 Well, basically we want a e1000 but without the router part. It’s super
 dangerous to put something like a e1000 on a network unless it’s actually
 the real router. I can’t tell you how often a power glitch will reset
 something and then bam DHCP all over the place.

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 Direct: 225-304-6402 | Main: 225-706-8414 | Fax: 225-308-6740 |
 www.puryear-it.com

  

 *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On
 Behalf Of *Mark A. Lappin
 *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2012 3:39 PM
 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Cc:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] WAP unit that segments network

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 For just a wap wouldn't the switch have to have the vlans?

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 If you can do a router instead look at the linksys e1000 series. They
 broadcast 2 asides kne being guest and keeps everything separate 

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 wrote:

 We are familiar with WAPs like the WAP4410N which supports VLANs on the
 switch to break out wifi networks for security. Are there any WAPs you know
 of that have this functionality built-in (i.e., doesn’t require a switch
 that supports VLANs, but segments the wifi networks on its own)?

  

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Re: [brlug-general] Extending cell phone coverage

[Tim Fournet]

also, semi-unrelatedly, I've noticed that those microcells eat up a
TON of bandwidth. If anyone is considering using them for a business,
you may also want to consider a dedicated internet line for it

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Edmund Cramp e...@motion-labs.com wrote:
 Right, GPS is a different frequency band and no repeater is going to handle 
 that band ... (thinks but wouldn't a GPS repeater be interesting to play 
 with?).

 I think you have to look at the building construction and figure out what 
 frequencies they actually need to get into the building.  It may turn out to 
 be much cheaper to give everyone new phones than actually fix the problem.

 Regards,
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 Web: http://www.motion-labs.com


 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net
 [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Tim Fournet
 Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:48 AM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Extending cell phone coverage

 well then that's a TOTALLY different problem, since the gps
 is a different radio frequency than what the cell towers use.

 On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Dustin Puryear
 dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
  It won't get a GPS signal, which is a requirement. (Stupid.)
 
  Anyway, out of our domain of expertise anyway, so I'm
 trying to shift this to a company that focuses on this stuff.
 
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  http://www.puryear-it.com/
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: general-boun...@brlug.net
 [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
  Behalf Of Tim Fournet
  Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:59 AM
  To: general@brlug.net
  Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Extending cell phone coverage
 
  What happened with the microcell?
 
  On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Dustin Puryear
 dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
  We have a customer in a building that has proven a
 nightmare for cell
  phone coverage. We've tried a third-party extender and a ATT
  Microcell, but of which failed. We're looking for a
 company that has
  a specialty in this as we do IT, not mobile
 telecommunications. Any recommendations?
 
 
 
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Re: [brlug-general] Extending cell phone coverage

[Tim Fournet]

well then that's a TOTALLY different problem, since the gps is a
different radio frequency than what the cell towers use.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 It won't get a GPS signal, which is a requirement. (Stupid.)

 Anyway, out of our domain of expertise anyway, so I'm trying to shift this to 
 a company that focuses on this stuff.

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 Baton Rouge, LA - 225-706-8414 x1112
 http://www.puryear-it.com/



 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf 
 Of Tim Fournet
 Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:59 AM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Extending cell phone coverage

 What happened with the microcell?

 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com 
 wrote:
 We have a customer in a building that has proven a nightmare for cell phone
 coverage. We've tried a third-party extender and a ATT Microcell, but of
 which failed. We're looking for a company that has a specialty in this as we
 do IT, not mobile telecommunications. Any recommendations?



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Re: [brlug-general] Extending cell phone coverage

[Tim Fournet]

What happened with the microcell?

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 We have a customer in a building that has proven a nightmare for cell phone
 coverage. We’ve tried a third-party extender and a ATT Microcell, but of
 which failed. We’re looking for a company that has a specialty in this as we
 do IT, not mobile telecommunications. Any recommendations?



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Re: [brlug-general] Dell PowerEdge 1800 Tower - PSU

[Tim Fournet]

Will it take an 1850 (rackmount version) PSU?

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 Anybody have a spare Power Supply Unit for a Dell PowerEdge 1800? We’re
 trying to troubleshoot an issue with a mission-critical server. It has dual
 PSUs so I don’t think this is the issue since neither will cut on, but we
 need to test this anyway. Would love to borrow or buy. Thanks!



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Re: [brlug-general] PHP Apache Windows 7 64bit

[Tim Fournet]

Have you tried Zend's stack? Makes it pretty easy
http://www.zend.com/en/products/server-ce/



On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Byron Como bc...@cox.net wrote:
 I can't make this combination work:

 PHP
 Apache
 windows 7 64bit

 Anybody doing this?

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Re: [brlug-general] CentOS

[Tim Fournet]

CentOS is good if you don't want to upgrade twice a year. If you want
to upgrade twice a year, Fedora is a good option. The new version
(F15) is a bit of a shock to the system with a brand new init system
and Gnome3 (gnome-shell)

I'm really impressed with btrfs as well


On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Joshua Frugé joshuafr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I love it.  But my desktop progression through the years has been
 WindowMaker-Fluxbox-LXDE.  What I look for in a window manger and desktop
 isn't really the norm. :)
 It's nothing special, default look of something like windows 95, but it's
 lightweight, easy to configure, and gets what I want done (manage windows,
 give me a task bar, and an app menu).
 Using a mac at the new job, it's very pretty and very annoying at the same
 time :)

 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Ronnie Gilkey rgil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't gotten to play with LXDE yet, is anyone currently using it?
  Thoughts?
 Ronnie

 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Joshua Frugé joshuafr...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Fedora 15 is pretty good if you want to stay redhat ish.  Go for the
 lxde spin, if you don't like the new gnome stuff.

 I started running it when it was in beta on my laptop, and was very
 impressed (compared to older versions of fedora).  Easy setup, no real
 driver issues, etc...
 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Ronnie Gilkey rgil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I would go with Linux Mint for a desktop (http://www.linuxmint.com/),
 it's my flavor of choice for desktops.  CentOS is just the community
 supported version of RHEL, which is really geared for server environments.
  I think Mint has a really well developed desktop environment it is _very_
 user friendly.
 Ronnie

 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Byron Como bc...@cox.net wrote:

 How is CentOS as a desktop environment? I gave up on RedHat when they
 went to a 13 month product lifecycle. And where is Lance Davis?

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Re: [brlug-general] SugarCRM consulting.

[Tim Fournet]

Also, TigerPaw is written for IT companies, and SugarCRM is for any
type of company. TigerPaw integrates with other IT-related products. I
forget who the OP was here, but he may not even be interested in an
IT-only CRM



On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 Sugar is a great CRM system. However, we were using another package for our
 ticket system. And yet a third package for our projects. We moved to a
 single system that does CRM, tickets, projects, and billing. Individually,
 the CRM isn’t the best, the ticket system isn’t the best, and the project
 management surely isn’t the best. But it gives us a comprehensive solution
 that is “good enough”. That’s why.



 Sugar actually offered a ticket system and project management, but at the
 time those modules sucked. Not sure of their current status.



 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf
 Of Ray DeJean
 Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:14 AM

 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] SugarCRM consulting.



 Curious as to why you stopped using it...

 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:

 We used SugarCRM for about 2 years. It was good stuff.



 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf
 Of Byron Como
 Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 4:12 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] SugarCRM consulting.



 I don't know anything about TigerPaw or SugarCRM, however, a search for both
 on Monser.com yields 5 results for TigerPaw and about 2 dozen for SugarCRM.
 As far as job opportunities go SugarCRM wins. In Google search results I
 found a few cases where people were trying to migrate from TigerPaw to
 SugarCRM.

 On 6/3/2011 9:22 AM, Jarred White wrote:

 I don't know...

 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com
 wrote:

 Isn’t Tigerpaw just based on SugarCRM?



 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf
 Of Jarred White
 Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:35 AM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] SugarCRM consulting.



 We just began using a new system called TigerPaw. I haven't had a lot of
 hands on experience with it yet, but some others here have been digging into
 over the course of the last month as we worked to implement it and so far
 they really like it for its ticketing system, pricebook/sales options, and
 integration with Exchange/etc. Also their team was really cool and easy to
 work with. On the downside, they really nagged the hell out of us for a
 little bit there right after we purchased it. We finally had to tell them
 that we would deal with it on our own and reach out to THEM if we had
 questions or needed help.

 Since then though they haven't been an annoyance. Just something to think
 about. We were using ConnectWise before, and hated it.

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Kevin Bucknum kevin.buck...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 They are open to other options. Sugar was just the one tossed out as a
 possibility. Our current outsource vendor has done some customization on it
 before. I know I've seen it mentioned on these lists before, and we want to
 look at local options, so wanted to hit you guys up before we went picking
 random people off the web.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Jarred White jarredwh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kevin, are you open to things that are not SugarCRM or has that decision
 been made?

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Kevin Bucknum kevin.buck...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is there anyone on the nolug/brlug lists that does consulting/modification
 on SugarCRM? My company is looking at getting off of Peoplesoft, and we’d
 like to explore Sugar as an option. The vendor we use for some php projects
 based out of North Carolina and India can do it, but we would like to look
 at local options also.

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Re: [brlug-general] CentOS

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http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/

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Re: [brlug-general] (no subject)

[Tim Fournet]

like is kind of a strong word there


On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 Haha. Hey, people like to work. :)



 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf
 Of Jarred White
 Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:38 AM

 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] (no subject)



 Although you did ask for suggestions on free solutions, I would be foolish
 not to mention our own hosting services. We have some really cheap ones
 starting out if you're just looking to blog etc.

 http://www.immense.net

 Also I don't feel so guilty since Puryear uses this list as his own personal
 job seeking forum :P

 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Roberts gremln...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ is pretty cheap as well.

 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Byron Como bc...@cox.net wrote:

 Once you've acquired a domain name what are the options for web and email
 hosting? Free options?

 On 5/2/2011 5:49 PM, Tim Fournet wrote:

 If it's for your own marketing purposes, why not just come up with
 your own domain name that's as short as you can think of?
 for a few bucks a year you can register pretty much anything as long
 as someone else hasn't taken it
 3-letter domains are pretty much impossible to get, but pnmr.info is
 available, for example.


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dustin Puryeardpury...@puryear-it.com
  wrote:

 Nothing.

 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf
 Of Brad Bendily
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:21 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] (no subject)

 What stops people from making short urls to point to some malicious website?
 This thought alone makes me not want to click on any short url.


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Tim Fournettfour...@tfour.net  wrote:

 oops, http://shadyurl.com


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Tim Fournettfour...@tfour.net  wrote:

 I like http://shardyurl.com


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM,heartofamerica1982-...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 what's up with the short URL's?

 I want to put one on my business card so its small, quick and easy for
 getting my vCard into smart phones.

 Honestly, I almost trust the short URL's linking to my page better than some
 QR code vCard service's. Of course,  I probably won't put my email in my
 vCard if its crawl-able on my page.

 Of course short URL services like QR services must make money too. I figured
 google's would be best since its obvious they track things, but they make
 them public.

 According to Wikipedia, Panara bread doesn't let you get to them (tinyurl)
 from there wifi.

 Many social network and other sites block them (but I just want it on my
 card).

 Libia already shut down one ly service. How's Bit.ly still working?

 So Far, I found tinyurl.com, bit.ly, and goo.gl thoughts?

 Yea, I want it for .vCard Services, but also just as a link to my web page
 (and/or places page) I figure, I could use one, and let the user pick what
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Re: [brlug-general] (no subject)

[Tim Fournet]

I like http://shardyurl.com


On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM,  heartofamerica1982-...@yahoo.com wrote:
 what's up with the short URL's?

 I want to put one on my business card so its small, quick and easy for 
 getting my vCard into smart phones.

 Honestly, I almost trust the short URL's linking to my page better than some 
 QR code vCard service's. Of course,  I probably won't put my email in my 
 vCard if its crawl-able on my page.

 Of course short URL services like QR services must make money too. I figured 
 google's would be best since its obvious they track things, but they make 
 them public.

 According to Wikipedia, Panara bread doesn't let you get to them (tinyurl) 
 from there wifi.

 Many social network and other sites block them (but I just want it on my 
 card).

 Libia already shut down one ly service. How's Bit.ly still working?

 So Far, I found tinyurl.com, bit.ly, and goo.gl thoughts?

 Yea, I want it for .vCard Services, but also just as a link to my web page 
 (and/or places page) I figure, I could use one, and let the user pick what 
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Re: [brlug-general] (no subject)

[Tim Fournet]

oops, http://shadyurl.com


On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:
 I like http://shardyurl.com


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM,  heartofamerica1982-...@yahoo.com wrote:
 what's up with the short URL's?

 I want to put one on my business card so its small, quick and easy for 
 getting my vCard into smart phones.

 Honestly, I almost trust the short URL's linking to my page better than some 
 QR code vCard service's. Of course,  I probably won't put my email in my 
 vCard if its crawl-able on my page.

 Of course short URL services like QR services must make money too. I figured 
 google's would be best since its obvious they track things, but they make 
 them public.

 According to Wikipedia, Panara bread doesn't let you get to them (tinyurl) 
 from there wifi.

 Many social network and other sites block them (but I just want it on my 
 card).

 Libia already shut down one ly service. How's Bit.ly still working?

 So Far, I found tinyurl.com, bit.ly, and goo.gl thoughts?

 Yea, I want it for .vCard Services, but also just as a link to my web page 
 (and/or places page) I figure, I could use one, and let the user pick what 
 they want to do. get my vCard, review, my business, and 

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Re: [brlug-general] (no subject)

[Tim Fournet]

If it's for your own marketing purposes, why not just come up with
your own domain name that's as short as you can think of?
for a few bucks a year you can register pretty much anything as long
as someone else hasn't taken it
3-letter domains are pretty much impossible to get, but pnmr.info is
available, for example.


On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 Nothing.

 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf 
 Of Brad Bendily
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:21 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] (no subject)

 What stops people from making short urls to point to some malicious website?
 This thought alone makes me not want to click on any short url.


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:
 oops, http://shadyurl.com


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:
 I like http://shardyurl.com


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM,  heartofamerica1982-...@yahoo.com wrote:
 what's up with the short URL's?

 I want to put one on my business card so its small, quick and easy for 
 getting my vCard into smart phones.

 Honestly, I almost trust the short URL's linking to my page better than 
 some QR code vCard service's. Of course,  I probably won't put my email in 
 my vCard if its crawl-able on my page.

 Of course short URL services like QR services must make money too. I 
 figured google's would be best since its obvious they track things, but 
 they make them public.

 According to Wikipedia, Panara bread doesn't let you get to them (tinyurl) 
 from there wifi.

 Many social network and other sites block them (but I just want it on my 
 card).

 Libia already shut down one ly service. How's Bit.ly still working?

 So Far, I found tinyurl.com, bit.ly, and goo.gl thoughts?

 Yea, I want it for .vCard Services, but also just as a link to my web page 
 (and/or places page) I figure, I could use one, and let the user pick what 
 they want to do. get my vCard, review, my business, and 

 Heck, thoughts on a good secure way to make a page with all three?

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Re: [brlug-general] Android tablets? tabloids? tabdroids?

[Tim Fournet]

Those are black  white nooks. Nice devices, and they are android, but
only the bottom part of the screen is usable for color/touchscreen
stuff


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Kevin Bucknum kevin.buck...@gmail.com wrote:
 For what it's worth, Woot has refurb Nook Colors for $104 today.
 http://www.woot.com/

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Re: [brlug-general] Android tablets? tabloids? tabdroids?

[Tim Fournet]

still a rootable device, but not as useful outside of an e-reader -
www.nookdevs.com


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Kevin Bucknum kevin.buck...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ahh - saw Color in the description of the Nav Panel and my brain expanded it
 out to everything.

 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:

 Those are black  white nooks. Nice devices, and they are android, but
 only the bottom part of the screen is usable for color/touchscreen
 stuff


 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Kevin Bucknum kevin.buck...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  For what it's worth, Woot has refurb Nook Colors for $104 today.
  http://www.woot.com/
 
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Re: [brlug-general] Android tablets? tabloids? tabdroids?

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The NC is supposed to be getting an upgrade to Android 2.2 along with
a BN market this month. This should also bring flash to the browser,
most likely a better launcher, and other neat tricks without having to
root.



On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Byron Como bc...@cox.net wrote:
 Supposedly this month BN will allow developers to start selling apps from
 their app store. I checked out Google's app store but am confused by a
 clause in the fine print that may prevent selling an app in other
 competitor's app stores.


 On 4/13/2011 9:32 AM, Ray DeJean wrote:

 If that is one of the gen 1 nooks, I have one (and paid a lot more than
 $104!) and can say it is pretty darn slow even as an e-reader.  So yea,
 probably not good for much else.

 Ray

 On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Tim Fournettfour...@tfour.net  wrote:

 still a rootable device, but not as useful outside of an e-reader -
 www.nookdevs.com


 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Kevin Bucknumkevin.buck...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Ahh - saw Color in the description of the Nav Panel and my brain
 expanded it
 out to everything.

 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Tim Fournettfour...@tfour.net  wrote:

 Those are black  white nooks. Nice devices, and they are android, but
 only the bottom part of the screen is usable for color/touchscreen
 stuff


 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Kevin Bucknumkevin.buck...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 For what it's worth, Woot has refurb Nook Colors for $104 today.
 http://www.woot.com/

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Re: [brlug-general] Android tablets? tabloids? tabdroids?

[Tim Fournet]

Yeah I'm running Gingerbread on mine via Cyanogen, and it's pretty
much flawless. Flash runs smoother on it than it does on a netbook.
The only thing I miss is the native Nook app that allows LendMe, but
hopefully that's coming to the standard Android side at some point.


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Richards Jr, Edward C.
ecricha...@fbd.com wrote:
 But rooting and roming it is so easy. I have Honeycomb on the flash drive and 
 Gingerbread on the SD card. Both work well, just no flash available for HC 
 yet. Gingerbread runs smoothly from the SD card and has flash and all the 
 other stuff.

 Ed

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 Of Tim Fournet
 Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:15 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Android tablets? tabloids? tabdroids?

 The NC is supposed to be getting an upgrade to Android 2.2 along with
 a BN market this month. This should also bring flash to the browser,
 most likely a better launcher, and other neat tricks without having to
 root.



 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Byron Como bc...@cox.net wrote:
 Supposedly this month BN will allow developers to start selling apps from
 their app store. I checked out Google's app store but am confused by a
 clause in the fine print that may prevent selling an app in other
 competitor's app stores.


 On 4/13/2011 9:32 AM, Ray DeJean wrote:

 If that is one of the gen 1 nooks, I have one (and paid a lot more than
 $104!) and can say it is pretty darn slow even as an e-reader.  So yea,
 probably not good for much else.

 Ray

 On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Tim Fournettfour...@tfour.net  wrote:

 still a rootable device, but not as useful outside of an e-reader -
 www.nookdevs.com


 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Kevin Bucknumkevin.buck...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Ahh - saw Color in the description of the Nav Panel and my brain
 expanded it
 out to everything.

 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Tim Fournettfour...@tfour.net  wrote:

 Those are black  white nooks. Nice devices, and they are android, but
 only the bottom part of the screen is usable for color/touchscreen
 stuff


 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Kevin Bucknumkevin.buck...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 For what it's worth, Woot has refurb Nook Colors for $104 today.
 http://www.woot.com/

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Re: [brlug-general] Windstream

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After dealing with them in several US markets, my advice is: avoid at all costs

Very bad customer service, high prices, bad network performance in general


On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 Anybody here using Windstream? I’d like to get your take on their quality of
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Re: [brlug-general] Versioning of documents in Windows

[Tim Fournet]

I use Dropbox for this. It keeps version history and syncs files to
the cloud. It's also great for sharing folders with others across the
internet. If you're looking for something non-clouded, you can look at
one of the many CDP (Continuous Data Protection) products available.
Without knowing more about your specific case, it'd be hard to make a
better recommendation. Do you want something that lives on a single
PC, on a whole network, across all your customers?

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 I have a need to do document versioning on Windows. We could use something
 like CVS or SVN, but the user isn’t very savvy with that type of technology,
 and I’d prefer something that was a little more transparent (if possible).
 Thoughts?



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Re: [brlug-general] Android tablets? tabloids? tabdroids?

[Tim Fournet]

I find it really great for browsing if your browsing is geared more towards
reading than multimedia. The change in form factor is refreshing for surfing
from the couch. It still lacks flash so that is a minus until they come out
with a 2.2 or better firmware.
On Dec 26, 2010 8:33 PM, Jonathan Roberts gremln...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tim,

 Thanks for the informative review of both devices!

 How do you like the nook for browsing? I have been considering a tablet
for
 browsing, specifically reading articles and online materials (as opposed
to
 e-books). I initially wrote off tablets as limited and thought I would be
 better served by a laptop. However, I find I don't use my laptop for this
 sort of thing after working at a PC all day... I think a functional tablet
 might change that and maybe I would start reading books again...

 Jonathan


 On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:

 So, I took that back to the store and bought a barnes and noble nook
color.
 It is a 7 inch tablet, same size as the samsung galaxy, but only $250. It
is
 missing some things that other tabs have: 3g, camera, gps; but since I
 already have an android phone, I can tether to that for those things. I
also
 had to root it to get access to the Market, Google apps, and a regular
 launcher ( see www.nookdevs.com for instructions). The screen on this
 thing, in my opinion, is perfect. Smudges don't show up on it during use,
it
 is perfectly viewable at any angle, and since it is a smaller screen
running
 at the same resolution as the viewsonic (1024*600), the pixel density
makes
 text and images look realky great. The smaller form factor does not take
 away from the usable real estate since it is the same resolution as a
bigger
 tablet. It is also very easy to type on. I am typing this entire email on
it
 in portrait mode with my thumbs.

 The other big thing that the nook has going for it is the huge customer
 base, which to me means it's going to have a long support time, and it
 already has a ton of accessories. BN has opened up an sdk for it and
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Re: [brlug-general] Android tablets? tabloids? tabdroids?

[Tim Fournet]

Currently it's running 2.1. BN has said that they'll update it to 2.2
in January

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Richards Jr, Edward C.
ecricha...@fbd.com wrote:
 Tim,



 Interesting review of the Nook. I assume that it runs Android. If so, what
 version?



 Thanks,



 Ed



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 To: general@brlug.net

 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Android tablets? tabloids? tabdroids?



 I am loving the way the future of android is looking. The great thing is
 that you have a choice of what you want the hardware to be, and you still
 have the same huge selection of apps to choose from. You also get a device
 that's pretty good at web browsing, including flash.

 So, a couple of weeks ago I picked up that 10.1 inch viewsonic gtablet. The
 specs on it were amazing. Tegra chipset, which is a dual core processor (
 although android can't use 2 cpus yet) with n3d acceleration, big glossy
 screen, lots of memory. But it has some fatal flaws. First, the stock ui is
 horrible. That's not too big of a problem since the folks in #tegratab on
 freenode have a totally revamped firmware that fixes it up. To me, the
 biggest problem with it is the super glossy screen. You really can't see
 anything unless you look at it directly head-on. Add to that every touch on
 the screen leaves a big smudge that further distorts the view. If you use it
 for any period of time you have to constantly wipe it to keep being able to
 see. I also decided that the 10 inch size is too large. I wanted something I
 could read on, but that was just too cumbersome. It is the same size as an
 ipad, so I assume I would feel the same way about that.

 So, I took that back to the store and bought a barnes and noble nook color.
 It is a 7 inch tablet, same size as the samsung galaxy, but only $250. It is
 missing some things that other tabs have: 3g, camera, gps; but since I
 already have an android phone, I can tether to that for those things. I also
 had to root it to get access to the Market, Google apps, and a regular
 launcher ( see www.nookdevs.com for instructions).  The screen on this
 thing, in my opinion, is perfect. Smudges don't show up on it during use, it
 is perfectly viewable at any angle, and since it is a smaller screen running
 at the same resolution as the viewsonic (1024*600), the pixel density makes
 text and images look realky great. The smaller form factor does not take
 away from the usable real estate since it is the same resolution as a bigger
 tablet. It is also very easy to type on. I am typing this entire email on it
 in portrait mode with my thumbs.

 The other big thing that the nook has going for it is the huge customer
 base, which to me means it's going to have a long support time, and it
 already has a ton of accessories. BN has opened up an sdk for it and
 released source as well.

 On Dec 20, 2010 7:06 PM, Brad Bendily bend...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well. I already have an iPhone. So I don't really want the maxipad version
 of the same limited thing. Plus I really wanted to play around with
 android.

 I read last week that the viewsonic tabs were being pulled from some
 shelves. But I don't know any details beyond that.
 What got me started is that there are a few $100-$200 models. So i was
 considering one of them. But if I buy something I don't want to buy a piece
 of crap. So I might wait and see what comes out from ces.

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[Tim Fournet]

I am loving the way the future of android is looking. The great thing is
that you have a choice of what you want the hardware to be, and you still
have the same huge selection of apps to choose from. You also get a device
that's pretty good at web browsing, including flash.

So, a couple of weeks ago I picked up that 10.1 inch viewsonic gtablet. The
specs on it were amazing. Tegra chipset, which is a dual core processor (
although android can't use 2 cpus yet) with n3d acceleration, big glossy
screen, lots of memory. But it has some fatal flaws. First, the stock ui is
horrible. That's not too big of a problem since the folks in #tegratab on
freenode have a totally revamped firmware that fixes it up. To me, the
biggest problem with it is the super glossy screen. You really can't see
anything unless you look at it directly head-on. Add to that every touch on
the screen leaves a big smudge that further distorts the view. If you use it
for any period of time you have to constantly wipe it to keep being able to
see. I also decided that the 10 inch size is too large. I wanted something I
could read on, but that was just too cumbersome. It is the same size as an
ipad, so I assume I would feel the same way about that.

So, I took that back to the store and bought a barnes and noble nook color.
It is a 7 inch tablet, same size as the samsung galaxy, but only $250. It is
missing some things that other tabs have: 3g, camera, gps; but since I
already have an android phone, I can tether to that for those things. I also
had to root it to get access to the Market, Google apps, and a regular
launcher ( see www.nookdevs.com for instructions).  The screen on this
thing, in my opinion, is perfect. Smudges don't show up on it during use, it
is perfectly viewable at any angle, and since it is a smaller screen running
at the same resolution as the viewsonic (1024*600), the pixel density makes
text and images look realky great. The smaller form factor does not take
away from the usable real estate since it is the same resolution as a bigger
tablet. It is also very easy to type on. I am typing this entire email on it
in portrait mode with my thumbs.

The other big thing that the nook has going for it is the huge customer
base, which to me means it's going to have a long support time, and it
already has a ton of accessories. BN has opened up an sdk for it and
released source as well.

On Dec 20, 2010 7:06 PM, Brad Bendily bend...@gmail.com wrote:

Well. I already have an iPhone. So I don't really want the maxipad version
of the same limited thing. Plus I really wanted to play around with
android.
I read last week that the viewsonic tabs were being pulled from some
shelves. But I don't know any details beyond that.
What got me started is that there are a few $100-$200 models. So i was
considering one of them. But if I buy something I don't want to buy a piece
of crap. So I might wait and see what comes out from ces.


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 well... i think most...

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Re: [brlug-general] mdadm / filesystem questions...

[Tim Fournet]

This is why I don't touch software RAID ;)


On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Warren Tray Torrance
torran...@gmail.com wrote:
 You could use udev to force the devices to get the desired nomenclature.

 -Tray


 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:35, Adam Yates ya...@cct.lsu.edu wrote:

 Hi all;
 I'm having a few problems with a fileserver at work and would like to
 bounce some ideas off
 anyone that could help. I'm ayates83 on #brlug on irc.freenode.net (does
 anyone still inhabit the room?)
 Email is fine too.

 Basic setup is this:

 2 sets raid-6. 22 drives in each set plus a hot spare.

 After I upgraded a kernel, the drives randomly reassign letters under the
 raid and cause
 the set to break on boot. I can use mdadm --assemble --scan -fv to
 forcefully bring the
 raid back online but it crashes soon thereafter.

 Any input is appreciated!

 Thanks,
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Re: [brlug-general] Google routes on the phone

[Tim Fournet]

Chrome to Phone


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 If I setup a Google route, with multiple destinations, on maps.google.com,
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Re: [brlug-general] Printing to an existing PDF

[Tim Fournet]

What do you mean by existing PDF? Are you trying to append more pages to a
pdf file or something?


On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Andrew Baudouin andre...@gmail.comwrote:

 Silly lo-tech question: Can the PDF be printed to template sheets and then
 have the users print again on those template sheets?

 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Dustin Puryear 
 dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

 Thoughts someone here may have some ideas.



 I have a need to print a PO to an existing PDF from a Windows XP box. The
 existing PDF will replace a paper-based PO form. We can’t alter the
 application that is doing the printer other than pointing it at another
 printer (in this case, the PDF printer).



 This isn’t a typical “use a PDF form” since the end-user won’t ever
 directly open the PDF. They are just printing to the PDF. We need to use an
 existing PDF/layout so that it includes the fine-print, etc.



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Re: [brlug-general] Printing to an existing PDF

[Tim Fournet]

So you want to merge some data into an existing PDF form?

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

 No, no copypasting. The user fills in the information into a program and
 then clicks Print.



 I know about Adobe Acrobat being able to combine PDFs and other docs. I
 wonder what the other options are.



 *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On
 Behalf Of *Terry Stockdale
 *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2010 11:03 AM

 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Printing to an existing PDF



 I know you can add pages to an individual PDF using Adobe Acrobat, but you
 might be able to use the batch processing functions of Adobe Acrobat to add
 the fine-print, etc. to the group of PO documents you print each day.


 Can you paste the fine-print, etc into the PO document before printing?

 --

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 On 11/29/2010 10:35 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:

 Thoughts someone here may have some ideas.



 I have a need to print a PO to an existing PDF from a Windows XP box. The
 existing PDF will replace a paper-based PO form. We can’t alter the
 application that is doing the printer other than pointing it at another
 printer (in this case, the PDF printer).



 This isn’t a typical “use a PDF form” since the end-user won’t ever
 directly open the PDF. They are just printing to the PDF. We need to use an
 existing PDF/layout so that it includes the fine-print, etc.



 Thoughts?



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Re: [brlug-general] Printing to an existing PDF

[Tim Fournet]

If it's just text, you may even be able to get away with using sed to
replace embedded keywords with strings from the user. Something like
s/XXXMyFirstNameXXX/$firstName/g


On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:
  So you want to merge some data into an existing PDF form?
 

 If this is the case, then pdftk is allegedly capable of doing it. I
 haven't tried it though. I have only used pdftk for bursting, merging,
 encrypting, or altering metadata in pdfs,

 Jon

  On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Dustin Puryear 
 dpury...@puryear-it.com
  wrote:
 
  No, no copypasting. The user fills in the information into a program
 and
  then clicks Print.
 
 
 
  I know about Adobe Acrobat being able to combine PDFs and other docs. I
  wonder what the other options are.
 
 
 
  From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
  Behalf Of Terry Stockdale
  Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:03 AM
 
  To: general@brlug.net
  Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Printing to an existing PDF
 
 
 
  I know you can add pages to an individual PDF using Adobe Acrobat, but
 you
  might be able to use the batch processing functions of Adobe Acrobat to
 add
  the fine-print, etc. to the group of PO documents you print each day.
 
  Can you paste the fine-print, etc into the PO document before
 printing?
 
  --
 
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  My computer tips site and newsletters:
 http://www.TerrysComputerTips.com
 
  On 11/29/2010 10:35 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
 
  Thoughts someone here may have some ideas.
 
 
 
  I have a need to print a PO to an existing PDF from a Windows XP box.
 The
  existing PDF will replace a paper-based PO form. We can’t alter the
  application that is doing the printer other than pointing it at another
  printer (in this case, the PDF printer).
 
 
 
  This isn’t a typical “use a PDF form” since the end-user won’t ever
  directly open the PDF. They are just printing to the PDF. We need to use
 an
  existing PDF/layout so that it includes the fine-print, etc.
 
 
 
  Thoughts?
 
 
 
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Re: [brlug-general] Moving a few servers from colo back to office

[Tim Fournet]

A little bigger than your handful of servers, but we for a while self-hosted
about 2 racks worth of equipment, which consisted of a UPS and between 15
and 30 servers. We needed two air conditioners (for redundancy), not
counting the building AC to cool them. When we moved them out, our power
bills went down by about $1000 per month. On top of that, we didn't have
external power generation for when the UPS runs out of juice. Then there's
the noise. Older generation Dell hardware is especially loud. Their new
servers (T-series and R-series) are MUCH quieter though. There's a lot of
benefit to using colo


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

 We’re moving a few servers from a colo back to the office. Basically, we
 have the following:



 2 Dell 1850 – dual power supply - 1U

 1 Dell 1950 – dual power supply - 1U

 1 Dell NAS  – dual power supply - 2U



 We have the space for the servers. We’re only concerned about the UPS and
 A/C. I can calculate the UPS needs, although if someone knows of an online
 calculator to do this that would be great.



 But the real question is A/C and heat. The goal is to put this into a rack
 in a small server closet, along with a VOIP PBX, ASA 5505, 48-port switch,
 and aforementioned UPS.



 The new office is being designed as we speak, so we have some say in terms
 of ductwork and airflow in the server closet. However, we don’t have much
 impact on the dimensions. The server closet is going to have enough room for
 one rack and the ability to sneak behind the rack itself.



 What are your thoughts on our A/C and airflow needs? How do I calculate our
 needs the best? And should we look into a rack/cabinet that has some type of
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Re: [brlug-general] A cautionary tale

[Tim Fournet]

One piece of advice that I have for situations like these, is to always keep
a credit card that has purchase protection, and make large purchases using
that card. So what if the interest charges are high, pay it off as soon as
you get home. I've had to deal with similar problems with non-tech-related
purchases where the store refused to honor their own return policy. After
calling American Express and explaining the situation, I was not required to
pay the balance for the purchase and then I just had to figure out what to
do with the merchandise. Thanks to Craigslist, I turned a profit on the
whole thing.


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Mark A. Lappin ma...@lmfj.com wrote:

 I've had similar experiences with BestBuy;  got the laptop I wanted to
 purchase, it was whisked away to the GeekSquad to be checked and I went DVD
 hunting.   Go to check out and they just assumed I wanted everything
 installedso that was a fight.   For a variety of reasons, I went back
 about 3 hours later to return it (the person who insisted that he leave town
 with a laptop that day, didn't like it, didn't even look at the computer,
 just the box!).   Had a 2nd `nice' discussion with the manager when they
 wanted to charge me a restocking fee on an opened product, which I had never
 even taken out of the box.

 ML


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 Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:14 PM
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 Yesterday I needed a 64-bit machine running Windows 7 - I looked around
 on-line and found a cheap little Lenovo laptop at Office Depot for $399 -
 OK, so I'll get it and swap it out with the sales demo machine once I'm done
 testing the 64-bit installers that I'm writing and my daughter can have the
 old laptop (a Toshiba running Vista) for Christmas.  New machines all round
 - everyone's happy.

 It looked like the local (Millerville) Office Depot had the Lenovo in stock
 so, five minutes later I'm up there, credit card in hand.  Turns out they
 did have it, but it was the floor model - they jumped on the phone (nice
 folks there, very helpful) and they found on at the Cortana Mall store and
 sent me there.

 I get to the Cortana Mall Office Depot, introduce myself (I should point
 out that I'm wearing a new pair of dark jeans and a t-shirt that says, Go
 Away - or I will replace you with a very small shell script) and after five
 minutes the manager turns up with the laptop, boxed and ready to go.  I hold
 my hand out to take it.  He doesn't offer me the box and the conversation
 starts;

 OD: What are you going to do with this machine?
 ME: (thinks, none of your damn business) but sweetly, I'm writing an
 installer and I need to test it in a standard 64-bit environment

 OD: It this Business or Home use
 ME: Business

 OD: You'll be needing a copy of Microsoft Office then
 ME: No Thanks, I just want a standard machine without any other software

 OD: What about editing documents, you'll need a copy of Word
 ME: (thinks, When did EMACS go out of fashion?), No thanks, I just need a
 basic machine.

 OD: What about Outlook for emailing?
 ME: No thanks, I just need a basic machine - nothing else.

 OD: This system has no Anti-virus software, you'll need Anti-virus
 software
 ME: No Thanks, I won't be connecting it anything - look, can we just take
 it as read that you've tried to sell me all the software that you're
 required to try and sell me, and that I've refused to buy anything?

 OD: We are required to tell you all of this when you buy a system - if
 this is for business then you'll need a copy of QuickBooks
 ME: No thanks, I just need a test machine without any additional software

 OD: We offer a service to setup the computer and install all your
 software
 ME: No thanks, I don't need anything other than the operating system.

 OD: We can set the computer up for you and remove all the bloat ware and
 unwanted software
 ME: No thanks, I can do that

 OD: If this is for Business then you'll need the extended warranty
 ME: No thanks, I don't need an extended warranty

 Buy this time we've crawfished over to the register and he hands the box to
 the girl at the register who smiles at me and says, Cool T-shirt

 OD: Loudly, Fetch me the LIMITED 14 DAY WARRANTY labels and then to me,
 This machine only has a 14 day warranty
 ME: (Thinking WTF 14 days!), Why such a crappy warranty period?

 He sticks their standard limited 14-day return policy label on 

Re: [brlug-general] Low power, compact linux box

[Tim Fournet]

I'd like to find something like this with a 1U form-factor. Anyone know of
anything?

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Byron Como bc...@cox.net wrote:

  On 10/26/2010 12:30 PM, Shannon Roddy wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I have a need for a low power consumption linux box.  Anyone using
 something like this?  I'm thinking some of the small nettops or mini-itx
 boxes.  I've googled a bit, but if anyone has direct experience with this
 sort of thing, input would be appreciated so I don't re-invent the wheel.

 Something like this would be nice...

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119032

 or this:

 http://www.hacom.net/catalog/openbrick-e-intel-600mhz-celeron-m

 Has anyone been down this road before?  I would like low power consumption
 so that it can run on a UPS for a long time for its intended use.  Doesn't
 need much drive space (compacFlash or SSD is fine).  It will basically serve
 as a network device to jump off to other devices.  Think like your typical
 home linux NAT router or something along those lines.

 Anyone have any product suggestions?  Tips?

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  I built a box based on an AMD 785G chipset.  See for reference:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_chipsets

 Combine a 785G motherboard with one of AMD's  low power cpus:


 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=17671+50001028+600039176QksAutoSuggestion=ShowDeactivatedMark=FalseConfigurator=IsNodeId=1Subcategory=343description=Ntk=CFG=SpeTabStoreType=srchInDesc=

 and an energy efficient 80 Plus Gold certified power supply:


 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=17657+600037998QksAutoSuggestion=ShowDeactivatedMark=FalseConfigurator=IsNodeId=1Subcategory=58description=Ntk=CFG=SpeTabStoreType=srchInDesc=

 I just happen to like AMD. You could easily do the same with an Intel rig.
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Re: [brlug-general] Offsite DNS hosting for Active Directory

[Tim Fournet]

Even if you've got the DNS portion of Active Directory replicated, when the
rest of AD comes crashing down, you're going to have major work-stopping
outages happening pretty quickly. Why not just bring up offsite hosted full
domain controllers?


On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

 Well, we're looking for an offsite service that WE DON'T HAVE TO MANAGE.
 Like an EasyDNS service. Hmm.

 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
 Behalf Of Keith Stokes
 Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:28 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Offsite DNS hosting for Active Directory

 Damn.  Brad can type faster than me.

 On Oct 1, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Brad Bendily wrote:

  We don't use a service to do this, but we host AD DC DNS on our
  Linux/BIND DNS boxes.
  I haven't done the AD side, but apparently there's a tool to extract
  the DNS entries and then
  they can get imported into BIND. So, it should be fairly easy to do.
  You could also setup
  a master/slave trust between the zones and the entries can be pulled
  that way.
  If you had a DNS host, running linux that would open to trying a few
  things.
 
 
  bb
 
  On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com
   wrote:
  We have a [common] situation where a company has a single site, has
  Active
  Directory, and only has one Domain Controller (DC). We could bring
  up a
  second DC, but there are hardware and licensing costs. That, and
  most AD
  networks that are workstation-heavy can survive quite well after a
  DC goes
  down for a good bit of time. If you exclude the fact that the DC is
  also the
  DNS primary for that network.
 
 
 
  Anyone know of a DNS hosting service that is known to play well
  with hosting
  secondary DNS for AD DNS?
 
 
 
  And what are your thoughts on this in terms of security? Anyone
  using a
  hosting service to provide secondary DNS capabilities for internal
  DNS?
 
 
 
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Re: [brlug-general] High-speed Internet access in Baton Rouge

[Tim Fournet]

So, you could rent an office in Lafayette and still be cheaper then Cox..
 :)

http://www.lusfiber.net/custom/?id=16
10 Mbps (upload and download) - $64.95
50 Mbps (upload and download) - $119.95
100 Mbps (upload and download) - $199.95

Just sayin...


On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Brad Bendily bend...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think both Cox and ATT offer metro ethernet circuits in BR.
 I assume it would be very expensive, but doable...
 actually, if i remember correctly, at a previous employer, we had a
 10Mbs for $800/month.
 and I think 100Mbs was $2000/month.

 http://www.coxbusiness.com/products/data/metroethernet.html


 http://www.business.att.com/enterprise/Service/access-enterprise/ethernet-service-enterprise/metro-ethernet-enterprise/state=Louisiana/


 bb


 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com
 wrote:
  Thanks everybody.
 
 
 
  From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
 Behalf
  Of Andrew Baudouin
  Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:53 PM
  To: general@brlug.net
  Subject: Re: [brlug-general] High-speed Internet access in Baton Rouge
 
 
 
  Wow Sorry Bret.  It's been a long Monday.
 
  On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Andrew Baudouin andre...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Thanks for the info, Brett.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Bret Esquivel besqui...@immense.net
  wrote:
 
  You can get a better deal from Cox on 10 Mbps fiber @ $1400/mo… My
 salesman
  over there told me they recently lowered their prices too… ATT was eating
  their lunch of 50+ Mbps fiber.
 
 
 
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  Baton Rouge, LA 70816
 
  Mobile: (504) 301-7413
 
  Office: (225) 754-9005
 
  Fax: (225) 454-6485
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  Web Development: http://design.immense.net
  Twitter: @immensenetworks
  Facebook: Fan Page
  Linked In: View Profile
 
 
 
  From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
 Behalf
  Of Andrew Baudouin
  Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:34 PM
  To: general@brlug.net
  Subject: Re: [brlug-general] High-speed Internet access in Baton Rouge
 
 
 
  Cox Business only offers a max speed of 3 mbps upload in BR.
 
 
 
  Level3 offers 10MBps fiber for around $1600/month, but that depends on
 your
  location.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:
 
  Move to Lafayette and get up to 100 megabit fiber :)
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Shannon Roddy sro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The state of so called broadband in the US is pretty depressing.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Dixon Cole dixonc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Brad Bendily bend...@gmail.com wrote:
  sneakernet.
 
 
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Re: [brlug-general] High-speed Internet access in Baton Rouge

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Move to Lafayette and get up to 100 megabit fiber :)


On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Shannon Roddy sro...@gmail.com wrote:

 The state of so called broadband in the US is pretty depressing.


 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Dixon Cole dixonc...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Brad Bendily bend...@gmail.com wrote:
  sneakernet.
 

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Re: [brlug-general] Good VOIP providers

[Tim Fournet]

We initially went the route of finding a SIP provider, building our own
Asterisk box, and running with that. It went well, but we had to keep
switching SIP providers because their quality would decline over time. We
eventually decided to move everything to Speakeasy and after over two years,
it's still working great. We don't have to deal with the hassle of managing
a system, and everything just works as smoothly as can be. You lose a little
bit of the asterisk flexibility, but in return you get a rock-solid system
with no downtime and almost all the features you could dream of.


On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  We’re considering dropping Cox Cable for our business phone lines and
 moving to VOIP. I know the major players, but I’d like to hear any comments
 or opinions on who you’ve found works well vs. who doesn’t.





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Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?

[Tim Fournet]

The issues I have with email have been kind of alluded to by you guys, and
that is basically this: We're getting bombarded with emails from companies
that we *did* sign up for email from, but did *not* expect to be *constantly
contacted* /jab by. An update once in a while about a new product or
promotion is acceptable, but when I get 3-5 webinar invites from the same
company every week, it's disruptive, and I end up unsubscribing from their
lists. I think something is wrong with a company that, for example, sends
many many emails to me per day trying to sell me their anti-spam solution!
Though, it's technically not spam, since apparently at some point I did sign
up for it, it has the same annoyance level.




On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Keith Stokes kei...@neill.net wrote:

 If I get 4 or 5 spam out of a couple hundred messages per day I don't
 consider it a problem.  It's not like they are hard to spot and take more
 than about 1 second each to delete.  I waste at least 10x more on useless
 e-mails from coworkers.

 On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:

 Haha, no, he’s not weird, but I take it he’s gone a little jaded. I have to
 admit I struggle with spam a bit myself. I delete about 4-5 emails a day
 that are spam that get past our filter.

 *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net 
 [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.netgeneral-boun...@brlug.net
 ] *On Behalf Of *mat branyon
 *Sent:* Friday, June 04, 2010 9:44 AM
 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Has spam killed the Internet?


 negative.  email seems to be working for me.
 from my phone even.

 maybe you keep weird friends

 On Jun 4, 2010 8:34 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com wrote:
 A philosophical question..

 I recently sent someone I know an email about catching up and got busy
 afterwards and so didn’t respond very promptly, and then got the following:

 …
 Automated form touch letters.  Nice, Dustin.

 I'm spam listing your domain to this address.

 You can contact me via another technology, if you actually want to
 interact.
 …

 It took me a few days to get what he meant, and now that I do I wonder if
 spam has really made Internet users this jaded? More broadly put, has spam
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Re: [brlug-general] Linux vs. you: You win

[Tim Fournet]

Maybe, after a few million years of evolutions, our brains will finally be
ready for the datacenter


On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Shannon Roddy sro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep... 'cause it already is.  ;-)


 On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

 Haha..

 No.

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 Behalf Of -ray
 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:41 PM
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 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Linux vs. you: You win


 So what you're saying is that, after a few million years of evolution,
 Linux will finally be ready for the desktop? :)



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  http://www.physorg.com/news192128818.html
 
 
 
  Cool snipit about why your body doesn't crash, but your computer does.
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Re: [brlug-general] Microsoft more secure than Apple and and Adobe..

[Tim Fournet]

So... one insecure thing is less insecure than two other insecure things...
must be very slow news day.


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  Thought everyone may enjoy this read:



 http://www.pcworld.com/article/194686/hacker_says_microsoft_secure.html



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Re: [brlug-general] (IN)Secure Magazine

[Tim Fournet]

PDF only?

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  Found this by accident:



 http://www.net-security.org/insecuremag.php



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Re: [brlug-general] (IN)Secure Magazine

[Tim Fournet]

I personally can't stand digital magazines that are basically a PDF
version of a real magazine that never gets printed. If it's not on paper,
and it's more than a couple pages, I won't read it. The exception is e-Books
with a decent eInk reader. I'm sure the day is coming that I'll have some
sort of tablet or *pad* that easily retrieves the publications I want so
I can read them when, where, and how I want them, but it's not here yet.



On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Ryan McCain ryan.mcc...@la.gov wrote:

  I subscribe to this magazine but they post free content from time to
 time…



 http://hakin9.org/


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 Old school I guess.



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 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] (IN)Secure Magazine



 PDF only?

 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com
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 Found this by accident:



 http://www.net-security.org/insecuremag.php



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Re: [brlug-general] bandwidth management question

[Tim Fournet]

We use (and sell) SonicWALL firewalls. We can shape bandwidth by tcp/udp
port, IP address (incoming/outgoing), IP range, time of day, pretty much
anything you can think of. It can even assign priorities to different types
of connections without having to get into QoS marking.


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Petri Laihonen pi...@weblizards.netwrote:

 I for got to mention, while linux distros are not out of the question,
 I prefer an appliance since they are easier to buy with PO and less
 building.

 Petri


 On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Petri Laihonen pi...@weblizards.netwrote:

 I'm trying to find a good implementation for a bandwidth management.
 Basically best bang for the buck while not sacrificing the main needs.

 For a connection speed up to 50Mib/s (up and down), I want to be able to
 define groups (vlans /  ports / subnets ?) to which I can set the bandwidth
 limitations. At this point I'm not interested on filtering or inspecting the
 data going through the pipe, only to manage the bandwidth.

 1) Set soft / hard limits for maximum bandwidth consumption for each group
 2) perhaps set limits based on the time of day.

 Any suggestions?

 Bonuses:
 Manage changes for a period of time in advance.

 Petri



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Re: [brlug-general] The Real Bounty Hunter

[Tim Fournet]

nice.


On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  Has anyone seen the commercials for the new chick flick with Jennifer
 Anistan? The movie is The Bounty Hunter. Well check out this great spoof
 for the movie poster:




 http://www.booyapictures.com/2010/03/pre-order-your-tickets-for-this-romantic-thriller/



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Re: [brlug-general] Digg.com dropping MySQL

[Tim Fournet]

The interesting part isn't that they're getting away from MySQL. It's that
they're getting away from a relational database and moving to a key/value
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Re: [brlug-general] BackTrack 4 menu

[Tim Fournet]

I don't know KDE at all, but if that's some sort of a user preference thing,
you can try removing your ~/.kde* directories. (make backups first)


On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Jarred White jarredwh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am an idiot and somehow lost the BackTrack 4 menu in KDE (I think it's
 because KDE fucking sucks). Does anyone know how to restore it? Doing a
 reinstall is really not an option...

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Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights

[Tim Fournet]

The government heavily controls imports and exports of goods, especially
weapons, raw materials, and food with taxes, quotas, and restrictions. There
are a lot of reasons for this, including making it possible to sustain our
own agriculture and keep prices competitive with other countries. That said,
Ray's point about the government not having the balls to focus on the real
issue is something I totally agree with. If the US has a problem with human
rights violations by foreign governments, they need to tackle the issue
head-on -- not attack the liberties of our own people instead.

This reminds me of the old war by proxy mentality of making somebody else
fight your battles for you so you can keep your own hands clean.
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Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights

[Tim Fournet]

I'm still on the fence about how much it actually benefits the consumers. On
one hand, I hate the idea of government control. On the other, how cheap
does corn need to be?? On the Other Other hand, screw corn, let's get
Coca-Cola back on cane sugar. HFCS is evil!


On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Ryan McCain ryan.mcc...@la.gov wrote:

  Govt. price fixing on imports/exports doesn't keep prices competitive and
 only destroys are agriculture. It only makes the prices for international
 goods and services for the consumer more expensive.  If Coca-Cola can
 purchase corn (for corn syrup) from Mexico at half the price than it could
 from a company in Iowa but the govt. lays a tarrif on all corn imports from
 Mexico to make it more expensive, then Coca-Cola will buy the more expensive
 corn from Iowa. All that does is artifically keep prices high for
 consumers.  Protectionism and price controls ALWAYS result in more govt.
 power/control and less consumer buying power.

 http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard125.htmlhttp://www.isil.org/resources/lit/free-trade-protectionism.html


 http://www.mises.org



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 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights


 The government heavily controls imports and exports of goods, especially
 weapons, raw materials, and food with taxes, quotas, and restrictions. There
 are a lot of reasons for this, including making it possible to sustain our
 own agriculture and keep prices competitive with other countries. That said,
 Ray's point about the government not having the balls to focus on the real
 issue is something I totally agree with. If the US has a problem with human
 rights violations by foreign governments, they need to tackle the issue
 head-on -- not attack the liberties of our own people instead.

 This reminds me of the old war by proxy mentality of making somebody else
 fight your battles for you so you can keep your own hands clean.





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Re: [brlug-general] password reset - web based

[Tim Fournet]

I think the problem with a generic framework would be that it would need to
know how you're storing passwords in the first place. Is it a database,
LDAP, Active Directory, ??

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Shannon Roddy sro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know of an open source password reset framework out there that
 can be used to aid in password reset via email?  You know... like all of
 those sites that email a link to your email address for reset of a web
 account?  I'd rather not write my own (poorly written) password reset
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[brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

[Tim Fournet]

I was wondering if anyone has any well-working SPAM filters based on open
source software that they can recommend? The combination of solutions we've
been using have worked fairly decently until recently, but fighting SPAM is
always a changing war.

I'm familiar with a lot of the commercial products on the market, but I want
to give Open Source a chance before going 100% commercial. I wouldn't mind a
subscription fee for some sort of signature-based service or blacklist if
there's a good one out there, but I would love to see a good open source
framework to start with.
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Re: [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

[Tim Fournet]

Right now we're using spamassassin, but it gets fooled by a lot of the
current mail that has random content thrown into it. I'm looking at some of
the plugins for it like http://www.armresearch.com/products/SNF4SA.jsp that
look interesting


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Ryan McCain ryan.mcc...@la.gov wrote:

  We have moved to a commercial solution here but used Spam Assassin for a
 while and it did a fine job.  It doesn't give you the nice GUI to work with
 but it gets the job done.

 http://spamassassin.apache.org/



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 *Subject:* [brlug-general] Open Source SPAM filtering

 I was wondering if anyone has any well-working SPAM filters based on open
 source software that they can recommend? The combination of solutions we've
 been using have worked fairly decently until recently, but fighting SPAM is
 always a changing war.

 I'm familiar with a lot of the commercial products on the market, but I
 want to give Open Source a chance before going 100% commercial. I wouldn't
 mind a subscription fee for some sort of signature-based service or
 blacklist if there's a good one out there, but I would love to see a good
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Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights

[Tim Fournet]

I don't see where it bans companies from doing business in China, just where
it imposes penalties on companies who violate human rights.
So--
Opening a hamburger stand in China - OK
Installing listening devices in your hamburger stand and handing the tapes
over to the Chinese government - Not so much.



On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Keith Stokes kei...@neill.net wrote:

 I would say that it does, but the bigger question is what's the right
 answer?  Make the world a better place or make more money?

 On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:

 The more I think of this, the more I wonder. It makes a good statement, but
 does it put US companies at a very big disadvantage globally?

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 ] *On Behalf Of *Dustin Puryear
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:49 AM
 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights

 Now, this may be a good idea:


 http://www.pcworld.com/article/190579/senator_to_introduce_internet_human_rights_bill.html

 The basic idea: The law would impose criminal or civil penalties on U.S.
 Internet companies that bow to pressure of foreign governments and violate
 human rights.

 Still, this creates a cache-22. This would essentially bar US companies
 from competing in markets like China, which are huge. So would this put our
 companies at a long-term disadvantage?

 Perhaps this law makes more sense if it applies to *ANY* company that
 operates in the US.

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Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights

[Tim Fournet]

I guess what then gets confusing is, does Google pull out of China and thus
provide the people with zero search results? Or stay in, and hope that the
users stay one step ahead of the censors?
I think either way they contribute a little bit to the oppression, but which
is the lesser evil? I'm not sure myself


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  Filtering out results on the order of China..



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 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights



 I don't see where it bans companies from doing business in China, just
 where it imposes penalties on companies who violate human rights.
 So--
 Opening a hamburger stand in China - OK
 Installing listening devices in your hamburger stand and handing the tapes
 over to the Chinese government - Not so much.


  On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Keith Stokes kei...@neill.net wrote:

 I would say that it does, but the bigger question is what's the right
 answer?  Make the world a better place or make more money?



 On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:



The more I think of this, the more I wonder. It makes a good statement,
 but does it put US companies at a very big disadvantage globally?



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 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights



 Now, this may be a good idea:




 http://www.pcworld.com/article/190579/senator_to_introduce_internet_human_rights_bill.html



 The basic idea: The law would impose criminal or civil penalties on U.S.
 Internet companies that bow to pressure of foreign governments and violate
 human rights.



 Still, this creates a cache-22. This would essentially bar US companies
 from competing in markets like China, which are huge. So would this put our
 companies at a long-term disadvantage?



 Perhaps this law makes more sense if it applies to *ANY* company that
 operates in the US.



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Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights

[Tim Fournet]

Good point. Luckily, I just can't imagine Google doing that, but that would
be a concern about a lot of other companies. I was going to make a point
about fear of being totally taken over by the government a deterrent for a
company considering moving HQ to China, but that's already likely to happen
in the US now...


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian 
kart...@poobal.net wrote:

 According to CIA word fact book China has around 300 Million internet
 users. That probably 25% of china's population with tremendous expansion
 potential. Entire US population is around 300 Million.  Recently, China has
 invested a lot of money developing its infrastructure to accommodate in
 country RD. Given all this, if there is a restrictive law that penalizes US
 based companies for obeying laws in other countries, isn't it easier for
 companies to pull out of US and move their operations to China? Hasn't this
 happened to manufacturing sector already?

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 On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:

  Filtering out results on the order of China..
 
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 Behalf Of Tim Fournet
  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:50 AM
  To: general@brlug.net
  Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights
 
  I don't see where it bans companies from doing business in China, just
 where it imposes penalties on companies who violate human rights.
  So--
  Opening a hamburger stand in China - OK
  Installing listening devices in your hamburger stand and handing the
 tapes over to the Chinese government - Not so much.
 
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Keith Stokes kei...@neill.net wrote:
  I would say that it does, but the bigger question is what's the right
 answer?  Make the world a better place or make more money?
 
  On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
 
  The more I think of this, the more I wonder. It makes a good statement,
 but does it put US companies at a very big disadvantage globally?
 
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 Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:49 AM
  To: general@brlug.net
  Subject: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights
 
  Now, this may be a good idea:
 
 
 http://www.pcworld.com/article/190579/senator_to_introduce_internet_human_rights_bill.html
 
  The basic idea: The law would impose criminal or civil penalties on U.S.
 Internet companies that bow to pressure of foreign governments and violate
 human rights.
 
  Still, this creates a cache-22. This would essentially bar US companies
 from competing in markets like China, which are huge. So would this put our
 companies at a long-term disadvantage?
 
  Perhaps this law makes more sense if it applies to *ANY* company that
 operates in the US.
 
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Re: [brlug-general] I'm not against tiered pricing for high-bandwidth users..

[Tim Fournet]

I thought all users had the same amount of bandwidth, depending on network
conditions and environment?

Or do you mean high throughput users?


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  I know I'll catch a lot of flack for this, but, honestly, I'm not against
 tiered pricing from service providers like ATT for high-bandwidth users:




 http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/02/att_says_tiered_data_pricing_inevitable_not_rushing_towards_4g.html

 Why should users that use little bandwidth subsidize high-bandwidth users?



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Re: [brlug-general] Perhaps Open Source is dangerous..

[Tim Fournet]

My thoughts exactly.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Shannon Roddy sro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't feed the troll.  :P


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Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data?

[Tim Fournet]

So, what exactly is the safe from police way to store data?


On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday!



 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2



 Is your web data really safe?



 Uh, no.



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Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]

[Tim Fournet]

I disagree with the assumption that a forked project will ultimately fail.
If there is truly a need for a fork, such as a total lack of support for an
Open Source MySQL environment, then I'd predict that a working community
based on that fork will build itself up and be self-sustaining.

Some examples of this are CentOS, which is arguably a fork of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux, but has probably a significantly large installed base then
RHEL; TigerCRM, a fork of SugarCRM; and Joomla, a very successful fork of
the Mambo content management system.

MySQL is a brand more well-known to the techies and developers than the
PHBs, so I don't think there would be a lot of trouble for people to follow
the forks.
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Re: [brlug-general] FW: [LUGOJ] [Fwd: Help save MySQL; Sign the petition]

[Tim Fournet]

That's kind of a tough question, and probably not a good example. However, I
think of it as very fork-ish since it's definitely a LOT more than just a
mirror. A lot of coding and repackaging goes into maintaining CentOS, and
there are many many man-hours of work going into every package that comes
out of Red Hat before they get into the CentOS mirrors.



On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

  Would CentOS be considered a fork? It’s not really divergent. More of a
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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.

[Tim Fournet]

That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for a
Free product?

That's like saying there is no market for *air* because the sales of air
are terrible

Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no
fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air.



On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon mat.bran...@gmail.com wrote:

 regardless of what the article says, i still use linux as my desktop.  also
 as my server, and now my phone too.

 as for work, i managed to convince vp pointy hair that i need linux as my
 desktop, but i still run windows in a vm for office.

 just my .02

 On Nov 23, 2009 2:25 PM, Jerald Sheets que...@gmail.com wrote:

 The false assumption I keep seeing being made, though, is that techies wind
 up choosing Windows because they prefer it.

 That is *NOT* the case. I have used Linux as my primary desktop now for
 almost a decade.  Most often, I am required by $WORK to carry a windows
 desktop.  That means they *force *me to do so.

 Unless you have some specific app that is only available in Win-land, there
 is no reason to use Windows on the desktop any more, except when brain-dead
 $WORK demands it.

 Brain-dead pointy-haired bosses have rejected Linux on the desktop.  Get
 over it.

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 On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote: 
  Hah, great article. T...

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Re: [brlug-general] Open Filer

[Tim Fournet]

It does work very well for test environments. Citrix even uses it in  
their XenServer test labs


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear- 
it.com wrote:


Yeah, we played around with OpenFiler, but for some reason I didn’t  
get the feel that I’d want to run it for long.


From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net]  
On Behalf Of Tim Fournet

Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:25 PM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Open Filer

Sorry, I meant iSCSI TARGET, not Initiator...


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net  
wrote:
I used it about two years ago as an iSCSI initiator. It worked  
pretty well for a while, but we needed something a little more  
solid, supportable, and scalable, so we eventually ended up getting  
a full-blown SAN.


The main problems I had were due to the rPath-based Linux distro  
that it ran on (this may have changed by now) and some of the  
updates to the OS caused problems with the iSCSI stack. After this  
happened a few times, I scrambled for something that's got less of a  
moving target for a foundation.





On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Mark A. Lappin ma...@lmfj.com  
wrote:

Has anybody used (or is using) OpenFiler ?



If so would you share the good, bad, the ugly and the “Holy Cow, sta 
y the heck away” stories?




ML


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Re: [brlug-general] Open Filer

[Tim Fournet]

I used it about two years ago as an iSCSI initiator. It worked pretty well
for a while, but we needed something a little more solid, supportable, and
scalable, so we eventually ended up getting a full-blown SAN.

The main problems I had were due to the rPath-based Linux distro that it ran
on (this may have changed by now) and some of the updates to the OS caused
problems with the iSCSI stack. After this happened a few times, I scrambled
for something that's got less of a moving target for a foundation.




On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Mark A. Lappin ma...@lmfj.com wrote:

  Has anybody used (or is using) OpenFiler ?



 If so would you share the good, bad, the ugly and the “Holy Cow, stay the
 heck away” stories?



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Re: [brlug-general] Open Filer

[Tim Fournet]

Sorry, I meant iSCSI TARGET, not Initiator...


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:

 I used it about two years ago as an iSCSI initiator. It worked pretty well
 for a while, but we needed something a little more solid, supportable, and
 scalable, so we eventually ended up getting a full-blown SAN.

 The main problems I had were due to the rPath-based Linux distro that it
 ran on (this may have changed by now) and some of the updates to the OS
 caused problems with the iSCSI stack. After this happened a few times, I
 scrambled for something that's got less of a moving target for a foundation.




 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Mark A. Lappin ma...@lmfj.com wrote:

  Has anybody used (or is using) OpenFiler ?



 If so would you share the good, bad, the ugly and the “Holy Cow, stay the
 heck away” stories?



 ML

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Re: [brlug-general] Phones

[Tim Fournet]

Don't lick the walls

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Keith Stokes kei...@neill.net wrote:

I'd be concerned more about other things if I lived in a lead-lined  
room.


On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Joshua Bolda wrote:

ATT is great in Louisiana as long as you don't live in an  
apartment with walls made of lead(like me.)
I've had service with them since 2002 and I've always been pleased  
with it.


On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Clay Smith  
freelancef...@gmail.com wrote:
I ditched Verizon about 6 years ago and have been very happy about  
the

coverage with ATT.

The company I work for ditched Nextel shortly after Katrina because  
I put
together a nice deal with a Cingular rep. Saved something like  
$1500/month

on cell service and we have fewer issues with crappy coverage.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf

Of Edmund Cramp
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:40 PM
To: 'general@brlug.net'
Subject: [brlug-general] Phones

Anyone got a good suggestion for a cell phone provider?  We've been  
long
time Nextel customers but Sprint seem to want to get rid of us.   
Mainly I'm
concerned about coverage - Sprint seem to have a very spotty  
service and

drops all calls at the I-10/I-12 split.

I've looked at ATT, Verizon and T-Mobile but you never really know  
what the

coverage is until you've used them for a few months.

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[brlug-general] Job Posting - Lafayette

[Tim Fournet]

Hi,
Our company is looking to hire a general IT/Support person. This person
needs to be comfortable supporting Windows, networking, internet
connections, mobile devices, thin clients, servers, Linux, and pretty much
anything else IT-related. We use a lot of technologies a lot of people
haven't heard of, so we need someone who is motivated enough to learn
quickly.

This does involve end-user support, but our clients are heavily into
server-based computing, so very little support is related to Desktop PCs.

They will need to be able to work in Lafayette, and some light travel may be
required. If you are interested, or know someone who is, please contact me
off-list.

Thanks,
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Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

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What about permissions on /usr itself?
ls -lah /


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

 Sure, I have to type them by hand though, so I'm not including as many
 as I might otherwise include. This should give you an idea though.

 One of the first errors that happens:

 Error: cannot mount filesystem: Protocol error

 Starting system logger: rsyslog runtime error(-2066): could not load
 module '/usr/lib/syslog/lmnet.so', dlopen: /usr/lib/rsyslog/lmnet.so:
 cannot open shared object file: Permission denied

 Other errors similarly say permission denied, so I'm guessing it's a
 permissions issue. I went to /usr/lib/rsyslog from my /usrbak dir and
 from within sdb1 and the permissions and ownership appear identical.

 Sorry I can't paste more. Can't get copy/paste to work from my vmware
 guest.

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 Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:27 PM
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 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

 Can you show us the slew of errors?

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 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:53 AM
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 Subject: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

 Morning all. Because I didn't allocate enough space to begin with for my
 Fedora VM, I needed to increase the size somehow. I figured the best way
 to do this would be to add an additional SCSI HDD via VMWare.

 So I added a 20G virtual drive, partitioned and made an ext3 filesystem
 on it. It's /dev/sdb1. To make some space, I wanted to move /usr onto
 the new sdb1 partition. So, I did the following:

 cp -aR /usr/* /mnt/tmp (where I mounted sdb1)

 Then I edited my fstab to include the following line:

 /dev/sdb1   /usrext3defaults1 2

 I also backed up my existing /usr dir to /usrbak, although ideally I
 guess I shouldn't need it. When I reboot, I get a whole slew of errors.
 So I boot into single user mode where I'm able to take a look at
 everything. df appears to show /usr mounted properly:

 /dev/sdb1   20G 2.6G17G 14% /usr

 Additionally, I can use binaries from within /usr without any problem.
 If I try to use 'joe', it works.

 Just curious if I have forgotten some big piece that I need to make this
 happen, or if I improperly copied the files over (without preserving
 ownership/symlinks, but I think I did), or if my line in fstab is jacked
 up. Maybe it's also an issue with vmware's logical HDD?

 The good news is I snapshotted the image before I started getting all
 crazy. So I can always roll back. Any thoughts?

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Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

[Tim Fournet]

I see you're using LVM. The better way to accomplish more space would be to
add your additional volume to the LVM group and then you could extend the
existing partition to include the new space. This would have kept you from
having to mess around with moving files at all


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

 Here are links to screenshots since I can't copy/paste. I can also
 revert and show you my states before the changes:

 Current fstab. Only modification made was to add the /dev/sdb1 line:

 http://tp.eblana.org/fstab.bmp

 Output of fdisk -l:

 http://tp.eblana.org/fdisk.bmp

 I see what you mean about the logical volume location. Let me see if I
 can figure out where it is within the VolGroup00 (or maybe it's in a
 separate one)...



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 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

 I was talking about the fourth field, fs_mntops. You currently have
 defaults listed, but there are other options.
 defaults should be ok, but possibly need to change it. My suse boxes
 have acl,user_xattr.

 Did you say which distro this is? Are you sure mount point is correct?
 You did say, you're using Fedora. I happen to have  Fedora on my laptop,
 the mount points in my default fstab are for volume groups:
 like this:

 UUID=aafdafasfxxxsdfsdf /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_root / ext4 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_swap swap defaults 0 0

 So, maybe your mount point is not right?
 Can we see your existing fstab?
 and the output of
 fdisk -l

 bb


 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Jarred Whitejwh...@pncpa.com wrote:
  Good question. It's 755 and root:root. /usrbak has the same, and the
 perms
  weren't modified prior to me mv'ing it.
 
 
 
  Brad - good question... in the examples I found through searching,
 most people
  seemed to indicate that the defaults would be fine. The final two
 columns
  deal with backup and fsck options. My understanding is that most hard
 drives
  or mount points with real data should have a 1 in the first column
 (since
  they should be backed up) and that the second column simply deals with
 the
  order it should be fsck'ed in. I have tried it with: 1 2, 1 1 and 1 3
 with
  no evident change in error messages or success :\
 

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Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

[Tim Fournet]

Ah, I didn't see this email before I responded.
You want to Initialize the entity (this turns the volume into an
LVM-compatible volume)
Then, you're going to add it to your VolGroup00
Then you're going to Extend your desired LogVol to include the space that's
been made available by the new storage


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

 Here's a screenshot of lvm. I highlighted sdb1, but honestly I can't
 really figure out what I might need to do here. Initialize the entity?
 Wtf does that do? One thing I know it does is delete all data on the
 entity. :p

 http://tp.eblana.org/logvol.bmp


 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
 Behalf Of Brad Bendily
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:01 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

 I was talking about the fourth field, fs_mntops. You currently have
 defaults listed, but there are other options.
 defaults should be ok, but possibly need to change it. My suse boxes
 have acl,user_xattr.

 Did you say which distro this is? Are you sure mount point is correct?
 You did say, you're using Fedora. I happen to have  Fedora on my laptop,
 the mount points in my default fstab are for volume groups:
 like this:

 UUID=aafdafasfxxxsdfsdf /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_root / ext4 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_swap swap defaults 0 0

 So, maybe your mount point is not right?
 Can we see your existing fstab?
 and the output of
 fdisk -l

 bb


 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Jarred Whitejwh...@pncpa.com wrote:
  Good question. It's 755 and root:root. /usrbak has the same, and the
 perms
  weren't modified prior to me mv'ing it.
 
 
 
  Brad - good question... in the examples I found through searching,
 most people
  seemed to indicate that the defaults would be fine. The final two
 columns
  deal with backup and fsck options. My understanding is that most hard
 drives
  or mount points with real data should have a 1 in the first column
 (since
  they should be backed up) and that the second column simply deals with
 the
  order it should be fsck'ed in. I have tried it with: 1 2, 1 1 and 1 3
 with
  no evident change in error messages or success :\
 

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 which is why we are implementing
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 from our firm.  Emails that
 contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the
 file.  This ensures that your
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 Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server.  Click
 on the link to download the attachment.
 The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be
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Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

[Tim Fournet]

I don't have a system handy to tell you exactly what to do, but have a look
at the guide here:
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-5-manual/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-system-config-lvm.html

It should be comprehensive enough to show you what you need to know.


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

  Tim, thanks. I actually attempted to do that first, but really screwed it
 up somehow so that it wouldn’t even load grub the last time.



 I think I’m okay up to the point where I “extend the desired LogVol to
 include the space that’s been made available by the new storage.”



 Tips on doing that? An FAQ/guide anywhere? Thanks for pointing me in the
 right direction! This would /definitely/ be preferable to moving /usr in the
 first place.



 *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On
 Behalf Of *Tim Fournet
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:23 PM

 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files



 I see you're using LVM. The better way to accomplish more space would be to
 add your additional volume to the LVM group and then you could extend the
 existing partition to include the new space. This would have kept you from
 having to mess around with moving files at all

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

 Here are links to screenshots since I can't copy/paste. I can also
 revert and show you my states before the changes:

 Current fstab. Only modification made was to add the /dev/sdb1 line:

 http://tp.eblana.org/fstab.bmp

 Output of fdisk -l:

 http://tp.eblana.org/fdisk.bmp

 I see what you mean about the logical volume location. Let me see if I
 can figure out where it is within the VolGroup00 (or maybe it's in a
 separate one)...




 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On

 Behalf Of Brad Bendily
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:01 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

 I was talking about the fourth field, fs_mntops. You currently have
 defaults listed, but there are other options.
 defaults should be ok, but possibly need to change it. My suse boxes
 have acl,user_xattr.

 Did you say which distro this is? Are you sure mount point is correct?
 You did say, you're using Fedora. I happen to have  Fedora on my laptop,
 the mount points in my default fstab are for volume groups:
 like this:

 UUID=aafdafasfxxxsdfsdf /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_root / ext4 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_swap swap defaults 0 0

 So, maybe your mount point is not right?
 Can we see your existing fstab?
 and the output of
 fdisk -l

 bb


 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Jarred Whitejwh...@pncpa.com wrote:
  Good question. It's 755 and root:root. /usrbak has the same, and the
 perms
  weren't modified prior to me mv'ing it.
 
 
 
  Brad - good question... in the examples I found through searching,
 most people
  seemed to indicate that the defaults would be fine. The final two
 columns
  deal with backup and fsck options. My understanding is that most hard
 drives
  or mount points with real data should have a 1 in the first column
 (since
  they should be backed up) and that the second column simply deals with
 the
  order it should be fsck'ed in. I have tried it with: 1 2, 1 1 and 1 3
 with
  no evident change in error messages or success :\
 

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 which is why we are implementing
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 contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the
 file.  This ensures that your
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 Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server.  Click
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 The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be
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Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

[Tim Fournet]

You're on the right track. You just need to select the volume you want to
extend and then extend it into the free space

This is the great thing about LVM. You can provision a server ,and then if
it turns out you didn't give it enough space, you can add space to it
without reconfiguring


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

  Okay, I now have sdb1 added to VolGroup00. Under which I see /dev/sda and
 /dev/sdb. Is that all that remains, or is it necessary to do something else
 with the volume after merging it with an existing volume group? Here’s the
 updated screenshot:



 http://tp.eblana.org/newlogvol.bmp



 if what I’m seeing makes sense, then this should be the last stop? I should
 be able to apply these changes and then reboot, and when I reboot I should
 find that there are no problems?



 *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On
 Behalf Of *Tim Fournet
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:26 PM

 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files



 Ah, I didn't see this email before I responded.
 You want to Initialize the entity (this turns the volume into an
 LVM-compatible volume)
 Then, you're going to add it to your VolGroup00
 Then you're going to Extend your desired LogVol to include the space that's
 been made available by the new storage

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

 Here's a screenshot of lvm. I highlighted sdb1, but honestly I can't
 really figure out what I might need to do here. Initialize the entity?
 Wtf does that do? One thing I know it does is delete all data on the
 entity. :p

 http://tp.eblana.org/logvol.bmp



 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On

 Behalf Of Brad Bendily
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:01 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

 I was talking about the fourth field, fs_mntops. You currently have
 defaults listed, but there are other options.
 defaults should be ok, but possibly need to change it. My suse boxes
 have acl,user_xattr.

 Did you say which distro this is? Are you sure mount point is correct?
 You did say, you're using Fedora. I happen to have  Fedora on my laptop,
 the mount points in my default fstab are for volume groups:
 like this:

 UUID=aafdafasfxxxsdfsdf /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_root / ext4 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_swap swap defaults 0 0

 So, maybe your mount point is not right?
 Can we see your existing fstab?
 and the output of
 fdisk -l

 bb


 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Jarred Whitejwh...@pncpa.com wrote:
  Good question. It's 755 and root:root. /usrbak has the same, and the
 perms
  weren't modified prior to me mv'ing it.
 
 
 
  Brad - good question... in the examples I found through searching,
 most people
  seemed to indicate that the defaults would be fine. The final two
 columns
  deal with backup and fsck options. My understanding is that most hard
 drives
  or mount points with real data should have a 1 in the first column
 (since
  they should be backed up) and that the second column simply deals with
 the
  order it should be fsck'ed in. I have tried it with: 1 2, 1 1 and 1 3
 with
  no evident change in error messages or success :\
 

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 Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the
 utmost importance to our client
 relationships.  At P,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential
 which is why we are implementing
 new email encryption software.  This software inspects all outbound emails
 from our firm.  Emails that
 contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the
 file.  This ensures that your
 confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended
 recipient.

 Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server.  Click
 on the link to download the attachment.
 The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be
 required to setup a password.  This will
 be your password to access future attachments.  For our clients and others,
 there will be a small step to
 download the encrypted files; however, we believe

Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

[Tim Fournet]

looks like it's a limitation of the GUI. See
http://geekdom.wesmo.com/2009/07/07/extend-the-root-lvm-with-a-live-system/


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

  Well now I found how to extend the size of LogVol00 to include the unused
 space, except that it wants to unmount / in order for me to resize it, which
 of course it can’t do. How in the heck am I going to get around that? :)



 Do I need to boot to single user and use the command line tools? Even then,
 / will be mounted and I’ll probably be unable to unmount.



 *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On
 Behalf Of *Tim Fournet
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:54 PM

 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files



 You're on the right track. You just need to select the volume you want to
 extend and then extend it into the free space

 This is the great thing about LVM. You can provision a server ,and then if
 it turns out you didn't give it enough space, you can add space to it
 without reconfiguring

  On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

 Okay, I now have sdb1 added to VolGroup00. Under which I see /dev/sda and
 /dev/sdb. Is that all that remains, or is it necessary to do something else
 with the volume after merging it with an existing volume group? Here’s the
 updated screenshot:



 http://tp.eblana.org/newlogvol.bmp



 if what I’m seeing makes sense, then this should be the last stop? I should
 be able to apply these changes and then reboot, and when I reboot I should
 find that there are no problems?



 *From:* general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] *On
 Behalf Of *Tim Fournet
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:26 PM


 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files



 Ah, I didn't see this email before I responded.
 You want to Initialize the entity (this turns the volume into an
 LVM-compatible volume)
 Then, you're going to add it to your VolGroup00
 Then you're going to Extend your desired LogVol to include the space that's
 been made available by the new storage

 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

 Here's a screenshot of lvm. I highlighted sdb1, but honestly I can't
 really figure out what I might need to do here. Initialize the entity?
 Wtf does that do? One thing I know it does is delete all data on the
 entity. :p

 http://tp.eblana.org/logvol.bmp



 -Original Message-
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On

 Behalf Of Brad Bendily
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:01 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Moving the /usr files

 I was talking about the fourth field, fs_mntops. You currently have
 defaults listed, but there are other options.
 defaults should be ok, but possibly need to change it. My suse boxes
 have acl,user_xattr.

 Did you say which distro this is? Are you sure mount point is correct?
 You did say, you're using Fedora. I happen to have  Fedora on my laptop,
 the mount points in my default fstab are for volume groups:
 like this:

 UUID=aafdafasfxxxsdfsdf /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_root / ext4 defaults 1 2
 /dev/mapper/vg_lela-lv_swap swap defaults 0 0

 So, maybe your mount point is not right?
 Can we see your existing fstab?
 and the output of
 fdisk -l

 bb


 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Jarred Whitejwh...@pncpa.com wrote:
  Good question. It's 755 and root:root. /usrbak has the same, and the
 perms
  weren't modified prior to me mv'ing it.
 
 
 
  Brad - good question... in the examples I found through searching,
 most people
  seemed to indicate that the defaults would be fine. The final two
 columns
  deal with backup and fsck options. My understanding is that most hard
 drives
  or mount points with real data should have a 1 in the first column
 (since
  they should be backed up) and that the second column simply deals with
 the
  order it should be fsck'ed in. I have tried it with: 1 2, 1 1 and 1 3
 with
  no evident change in error messages or success :\
 

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Re: [brlug-general] Not everybody thingks that Chrome OS is goingto be all that great..

[Tim Fournet]

If your computer is already on the internet, then your data is already in
the cloud. Your trusting it to be secure just because it physically lives
at the same place you do? Many of us use VPNs or SSL to get to data stored
at remote facilities every day. Renting space or computing resources
somewhere else is just a logical advancement of that idea. The benefit is
your are able to take advantage of someone else's economies of scale to
bring down the costs of running your own business.

Consider this scenario:
10 companies. Each of these companies has two sites. They have decided to
install a Small Business Server at each site because their local IT
consultant told them so. Each server ran them somewhere in the neighborhood
of $5,000 including software, licenses, and hardware. Since each site is
running their own Exchange (SBS) Server, they must keep power and cooling
active 24/7. They also need to dedicate a secure location in their buildings
with adequate power and cooling to run a server. Total investment between
all of these companies is at least $100,000 plus recurring costs of
electricity and cooling for 20 facilities. Do these sites need guaranteed
uptime? Battery Backups, Generators, etc? Those cost a lot.

What is the average utilization of each server? They're basically all doing
the same thing. They require a lot of computing resources because they are
running Windows, Exchange, and all the other features of SBS. If you were
running all of this out of one facility, how much equipment would it really
take to run it? Maybe $20,000 worth? How many sets of air conditioners need
to run? One (two for redundancy)?  What about expertise? Each company would
need to hire an IT consultant to manage all of these servers. If they were
consolidated, then it would only take one team to manage this.

That is the real benefit of cloud computing. Once you understand the
technology and build a layer of trust between yourself and your provider,
then it makes sense. You are allowing an organization that has its own
resources and expertise to handle the job of data storage and access, and
you focus on your real work. If you understand the nature of data then you
know that you can make your own backups if you don't trust your provider not
to lose your data. Your backups won't be as available but you'll have the
data available if it ever came to that.


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Jarred White jwh...@pncpa.com wrote:

  **Additionally, I abhor the idea of me not owning the location where my
 data is stored.  How is that good for me as a business?

 Sorry I’m late to the party :)

 You said it. The security implications about something like this really
 bother me. I have to be a lot more confident about the security of my
 transport protocols and the level of trust between other systems I
 communicate with before I feel okay with storing apps and other data out
 there in “the cloud.” Can you guys imagine having a Citrix environment
 located out there on the public Internet? :P

 Having said that, I’m interested to see where this goes. Things like the
 new Palm Pre operating system and Moblin really intrigue me, and while I
 think they’re most certainly the future of portable devices, I’m not so sure
 how I feel about desktop computing heading in that direction.

 Brad – don’t lie, you know you use IE because you love it.





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 Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the 
 utmost importance to our client
 relationships.  At PN, we are committed to keeping your data confidential 
 which is why we are implementing
 new email encryption software.  This software inspects all outbound emails 
 from our firm.  Emails that
 contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the 
 file.  This ensures that your
 confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient.

 Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server.  Click on 
 the link to download the attachment.
 The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required 
 to setup a password.  This will
 be your password to access future attachments.  For our clients and others, 
 there will be a small step to
 download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality 
 benefits far outweigh the few
 seconds that are required to access the attachment.

 If you 

Re: [brlug-general] Not everybody thingks that Chrome OS is goingto be all that great..

[Tim Fournet]

...@brlug.net] *On
 Behalf Of *Tim Fournet
 *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2009 12:06 PM
 *To:* general@brlug.net
 *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Not everybody thingks that Chrome OS is
 goingto be all that great..



 If your computer is already on the internet, then your data is already in
 the cloud. Your trusting it to be secure just because it physically lives
 at the same place you do? Many of us use VPNs or SSL to get to data stored
 at remote facilities every day. Renting space or computing resources
 somewhere else is just a logical advancement of that idea. The benefit is
 your are able to take advantage of someone else's economies of scale to
 bring down the costs of running your own business.



 Consider this scenario:

 10 companies. Each of these companies has two sites. They have decided to
 install a Small Business Server at each site because their local IT
 consultant told them so. Each server ran them somewhere in the neighborhood
 of $5,000 including software, licenses, and hardware. Since each site is
 running their own Exchange (SBS) Server, they must keep power and cooling
 active 24/7. They also need to dedicate a secure location in their buildings
 with adequate power and cooling to run a server. Total investment between
 all of these companies is at least $100,000 plus recurring costs of
 electricity and cooling for 20 facilities. Do these sites need guaranteed
 uptime? Battery Backups, Generators, etc? Those cost a lot.



 What is the average utilization of each server? They're basically all doing
 the same thing. They require a lot of computing resources because they are
 running Windows, Exchange, and all the other features of SBS. If you were
 running all of this out of one facility, how much equipment would it really
 take to run it? Maybe $20,000 worth? How many sets of air conditioners need
 to run? One (two for redundancy)?  What about expertise? Each company would
 need to hire an IT consultant to manage all of these servers. If they were
 consolidated, then it would only take one team to manage this.



 That is the real benefit of cloud computing. Once you understand the
 technology and build a layer of trust between yourself and your provider,
 then it makes sense. You are allowing an organization that has its own
 resources and expertise to handle the job of data storage and access, and
 you focus on your real work. If you understand the nature of data then you
 know that you can make your own backups if you don't trust your provider not
 to lose your data. Your backups won't be as available but you'll have the
 data available if it ever came to that.





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 **Additionally, I abhor the idea of me not owning the location where my
 data is stored.  How is that good for me as a business?

 Sorry I’m late to the party :)

 You said it. The security implications about something like this really
 bother me. I have to be a lot more confident about the security of my
 transport protocols and the level of trust between other systems I
 communicate with before I feel okay with storing apps and other data out
 there in “the cloud.” Can you guys imagine having a Citrix environment
 located out there on the public Internet? :P

 Having said that, I’m interested to see where this goes. Things like the
 new Palm Pre operating system and Moblin really intrigue me, and while I
 think they’re most certainly the future of portable devices, I’m not so sure
 how I feel about desktop computing heading in that direction.

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Re: [brlug-general] Not everybody thingks that Chrome OS is goingto be all that great..

[Tim Fournet]

announcement == overhyping??
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html

From reading the announcement (not the every operating system has viruses
rant linked in the original post), Google's aim is to bring operating
systems the next step forward. It's clear that we're way past due for that.
Windows has set the bar for two decades now, and that bar is holding us back
now. We should have applications that are agnostic about their underlying
operating system, aware of location, and able to scale between different
types of interface technology.

Microsoft has had research into this area, but it's clear that they aren't
ready for the next step as a company. The first concepts of Windows 7 were
supposed to be that next step, but it turns out to be not much more than a
service pack for Vista.

I don't think Google is making the great claims that people are attributing
them to. I think they're saying dammit, it's time for a new paradigm, and
we were really hoping that it was going to happen by now. It hasn't, so we
might as well take a crack at it.

I personally hope that this is finally the gateway operating system to a new
shift to a world where applications and information live in the internet and
devices are just handy ways of accessing that information. I envision a
world where computing devices (laptops, desktops, handhelds, kiosks,
implants) are all just gateways to the connected world. People will just use
the right tool for the job depending on their location and the task at hand.
We've had baby steps in that direction for the past 10 years, but we're
[past] due for a quantifiable jump.


-Tim

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.comwrote:

 I did read it f00l. :)

 I think there is some overhyping here. Sorry, that's what I think.

 Now take that!

 
 From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
 Behalf Of SR
 Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:09 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Not everybody thingks that Chrome OS is
 goingto be all that great..

 Dustin said:  Not everybody thingks that Chrome OS is going to be all that
 great..

 That's not at all what the article said.  Please re-read the article and
 try again.  ;-)

 -Shannon
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com
 wrote:
 Bruce Schneier for one..

 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/security_guru_calls_chrome_oss_secu
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Re: [brlug-general] Not everybody thingks that Chrome OS is goingto be all that great..

[Tim Fournet]

I disagree. This, along with Moblin (www.moblin.org), are experiments into
making computing something more than the tired old (local pc/local
apps/local data) ideas that have held progress back for too long. Getting
beyond that makes things like viruses much less problematic, even if they
still will exist.

ChromeOS and Moblin may both fail, but at least they're getting some people
working in the right direction, and opening up the possibilities of new
methods of computing. The evolution of computing needs to get cranked up
again, and fast.



On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baudouin andre...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm certain this is going to be JADOG (Just Another Distro Of Gnu/Linux).
 Move along now, nothing to see here.

 The world certainly does not need JADOG.  What it needs is Ubuntu (without
 the gayness of OOB MP3/DVD prohibition) to truly become supported.


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Re: [brlug-general] Yearly What's your IM info? topic - Was: RE: IM fest

[Tim Fournet]

my email address is my IM address (jabber)

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 Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
 Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:01 PM
 To: general@brlug.net
 Subject: [brlug-general] Yearly What's your IM info? topic - Was: RE: IM
 fest

 As there as been confusion over the Subject: line, I rewrote it. :)

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 Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
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Re: [brlug-general] FW: [Nolug] interesting bit of hardware

[Tim Fournet]

USB monitors (video cards) are just about working in Linux, so that would be 
kinda neat

Speaking of cheap Linux machines, I got my $199 Dell Vostra A90 (same as a 
mini9) in, and this thing is great for carrying around. Since GNOME and KDE 
support custom DPI settings, just make the fonts tiny and you basically have a 
miniaturized, but fully useful, workstation


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To: general@brlug.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:34:55 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [brlug-general] FW: [Nolug] interesting bit of hardware

Nifty!

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From: owner-no...@stoney.kellynet.org
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:30 AM
To: no...@nolug.org
Subject: Re: [Nolug] interesting bit of hardware

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:29:07PM -0500, Jonathan Roberts wrote:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/plugging-in-to-the-uses-of-40-c
omputers/

Can you image a Beowulf cluster of those? ;)

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Re: [brlug-general] FW: [Nolug] interesting bit of hardware

[Tim Fournet]

the hostname is mynock


- Original Message -
From: Dustin Puryear dpury...@puryear-it.com
To: general@brlug.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:29:43 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] FW: [Nolug] interesting bit of hardware

I assume you've given it a nickname, like Smalls or something?

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Behalf Of Tim Fournet
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:14 PM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] FW: [Nolug] interesting bit of hardware

USB monitors (video cards) are just about working in Linux, so that
would be kinda neat

Speaking of cheap Linux machines, I got my $199 Dell Vostra A90 (same as
a mini9) in, and this thing is great for carrying around. Since GNOME
and KDE support custom DPI settings, just make the fonts tiny and you
basically have a miniaturized, but fully useful, workstation


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To: general@brlug.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:34:55 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [brlug-general] FW: [Nolug] interesting bit of hardware

Nifty!

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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:30 AM
To: no...@nolug.org
Subject: Re: [Nolug] interesting bit of hardware

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:29:07PM -0500, Jonathan Roberts wrote:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/plugging-in-to-the-uses-of-40-c
omputers/

Can you image a Beowulf cluster of those? ;)

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Re: [brlug-general] network service segregation

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As long as your application is binding to an IP address and not creating 
reverse sessions, then I don't see how this could happen. What are you testing 
with that leads you to believe that you're getting traffic from another 
interface?

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From: mat branyon mat.bran...@gmail.com
To: general@brlug.net
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:31:16 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [brlug-general] network service segregation


I am building a server that hosts multiple services, one of which is near real 
time (HD video on demand). The server is a dell 2950 with a dual port intel nic 
in it. I'd like to have one port set up for vod, and the other set up for all 
of the other services. both ports need to be set up to be on the same subnet. 
Is there a way to ensure that data sent to the ip on port one returns from the 
same port? 

currently, i am getting a lot of crossover, ie, i make a request for vod on 
eth3, and it gets returned through eth2... 

does this make any sense? any suggestions? 

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Re: [brlug-general] network service segregation

[Tim Fournet]

from the machine it's running on, or an external host? It might be that iptraf 
is going by the driver, and since both nics have the same driver, it's not 
being accurate. If you can sniff the traffic on the receiving host and sort by 
mac address, that might tell you for sure



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From: mat mat.bran...@gmail.com
To: general@brlug.net
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 2:04:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] network service segregation

Iptraf


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Subject: Re: [brlug-general] network service segregation
Sent: May 7, 2009 12:48 PM

As long as your application is binding to an IP address and not creating 
reverse sessions, then I don't see how this could happen. What are you testing 
with that leads you to believe that you're getting traffic from another 
interface?

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To: general@brlug.net
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 1:31:16 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [brlug-general] network service segregation


I am building a server that hosts multiple services, one of which is near real 
time (HD video on demand). The server is a dell 2950 with a dual port intel nic 
in it. I'd like to have one port set up for vod, and the other set up for all 
of the other services. both ports need to be set up to be on the same subnet. 
Is there a way to ensure that data sent to the ip on port one returns from the 
same port? 

currently, i am getting a lot of crossover, ie, i make a request for vod on 
eth3, and it gets returned through eth2... 

does this make any sense? any suggestions? 

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Re: [brlug-general] Samba as a domain controller

[Tim Fournet]

As long as they don't turn into flamewars, I don't see any windows-related 
questions being a problem. Enough of us here live in the real world and have to 
deal with many different operating systems.

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To: general@brlug.net general@brlug.net
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:16:15 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Samba as a domain controller

 I guess I didn't realize how many Windows server gurus we have on the Linux 
 list...

There are just as many if not more Linux guru's on this list I'm sure.

 How can I ask you guys my stupid server questions? I'm guessing
 the Linux discussion list is not the place.

I'd say it is the place; I've picked up a lot of good info here.


MAL


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Re: [brlug-general] Samba as a domain controller

[Tim Fournet]

Also, make sure you develop a much bigger understanding of AD on Windows before 
even trying to to the Linux route. It's a lot more complex than file sharing

-Tim

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Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:20:06 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Samba as a domain controller

Very little to be honest. I love Samba, but it's very rare that I see it
working better than a Windows DC. Also, sure, you can do some LDAP
replication tricks to help with redundancy, but having two Windows DCs
is simple to setup (real, real simple) and works out-of-the-box.

We used a Samba-LDAP DC here for a while, but have since dropped it for
Windows 2003 AD. Life is simpler.

-Original Message-
From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Fruchey
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:37 PM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: [brlug-general] Samba as a domain controller

I've been doing Windows desktop support for ten or twelve years. At
work, it's basically me and the server/networking guy. Well, he got a
better offer, so he's out the door after Wednesday, which means I'm
basically shoehorned into the server/network admin position. It's a
role I've wanted to take on for years now, and I'm really excited
about it.

TMI, sorry.

Anyhow, I'm finally in a position where I can make decisions, and I've
always wondered how feasible Samba would be as a domain controller in
a real-world environment. We have about 500 users and 300 computers.
What advantages would it offer over Windows Server 2008's Active
Directory? (Free being the primary example.)

Thanks, guys.

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Re: [brlug-general] a Craisglist exchange that made me laugh

[Tim Fournet]

for $13 to $17 per hour, they're going to be looking for a LONG time...

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Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:46:40 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] a Craisglist exchange that made me laugh

What was the reply?  Its been flagged for removal?

I think they repost that job ad regularly and in multiple markets, looks very 
familiar.




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Subject: [brlug-general] a Craisglist exchange that made me laugh

The job posting: http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/tch/1081925377.html

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Re: [brlug-general] Samba as a domain controller

[Tim Fournet]

Basically around $30 per user for client access licenses. You need these if you 
plan to access the server from the network in any way.


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To: general@brlug.net general@brlug.net
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 12:45:06 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Samba as a domain controller

 a base install of Windows 2003 is really very inexpensive.

A base install is not to bad, but when still have to license your network 
properly   long licensing explanation cut 

Even Windows 2008 is not bad on base pricing.

Mark


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Re: [brlug-general] Network services at NTG

[Tim Fournet]

you are metered on amount of data transferred


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Hi guys-

Does anyone know what Internet providers offer access inside the NTG
data center? We really like NTG, but their bandwidth cost is pretty
high. 

We are open to any telco, ranging from Cox Business to whatever.

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Re: [brlug-general] Network services at NTG

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We have a datacenter in the LITE center here in lafayette. The colo portion of 
it is run by Global Data Systems - http://www.getgds.com

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Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 2:49:17 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
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What data center?

Oh, wait. I kind of think I know what you mean. What's the name of it
again? I tried emailing them and it bounced I think.

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From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
Behalf Of Bret Esquivel
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:28 PM
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No, 95th percentile. I wish they were more competitve here. Does  
anyone colo at that datacenter on bluebonnet?

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On Apr 9, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Tim Fournet tfour...@tfour.net wrote:

 you are metered on amount of data transferred


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 Hi guys-

 Does anyone know what Internet providers offer access inside the NTG
 data center? We really like NTG, but their bandwidth cost is pretty
 high.

 We are open to any telco, ranging from Cox Business to whatever.

 Thanks!

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Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

[Tim Fournet]

Back when this first became an issue, web browsers were still considered an 
add-on to basic computing for the most part. These days web-based applications 
are often misssion-critical for a lot of companies and users, and the idea of 
booting up a new computing without a browser can be troublesome. I'd like to 
see something where during the initial system preparation wizards, the user is 
presented with the option of using the MS browser or loading an optional 3rd 
party browser, be it Firefox, Opera, Safari, or whatever. They do something 
similar with the default search provider now. 

A few years ago, the idea of integrating the web browser with the hosting 
operating system was a lot bigger than it is now. These days, we think of the 
web browser as an operating system in and of itself, and as long as the thing 
works, and is reasonably secure, most people don't care which one they're 
running. We run applications over a web browser the same way we would be 
running them locally, and for the most part I believe that it's for the best. I 
think MS in general doesn't really care which browser people use either, since 
it's no longer directly tied to profits. 

To go back to the Ford analogy -- I think if Ford could reasonably make cars 
without engines, and find a way to still maintain the same profit margins on 
the cars, they'd seriously consider it. The only drawback would be making sure 
that the consumer had a choice of a quality engine to put in the car. There 
would have to be some levels of quality control so that a consumer putting a 
bad engine in a car wouldn't turn around and blame Ford. Cars and computers 
make good analogies because they're so complicated, and 99% of the world never 
fully understands how they work. A lot of time and effort has to go in to 
making sure that either nothing will go wrong, or when something does go wrong, 
the right party gets the support call.

The way Apple sees it, they don't trust anyone but themselves to have their 
hands in the guts. They don't want to open their platform to anyone else mainly 
because they don't want their name tarnished by bad experiences with 
lesser-quality components. That's why they shut down the clone market, and 
that's why they won't let their OS (legally) run on commodity hardware. If you 
limit the options available, you limit the variables where something can go 
wrong. They've been successful in some aspects, and a failure in other because 
of this. It's a complete opposite of an Open Source tinkerer's market, even 
thought they've adopted *some* open source software to build it.



- Original Message -
From: Karthik Poobal kart...@poobal.net
To: general@brlug.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:24:18 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

I agree that when you put out a product you should be free to do what  
you want with it but unfortunately when companies have more than 90%  
of share in a market, they tend to strong arm their competition.  
Assuming Ford is the only major manufacturer of automobile engines in  
EU and there are other engine manufacturers, that analogy would be  
okay. I don't necessarily agree with the EU solution. Its weak and  
half ass but its more than what we did. What happened to the anti- 
trust suit against MS? Besides, how can MS remove IE?

Personally, I think the hardware manufacturers should be able to offer  
PCs without an OS or at least have more options. This is where, I  
think, MS is being more anticompetitive. Now, should we force them? I  
don't know. Few years ago when I was looking into getting a laptop, I  
could not get a preloaded linux one from any major manufacturer. The  
situation is a little bit better now. BTW the same issue applies to  
Apple.



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On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Brad Bendily wrote:

 I'm sure everyone has read the headlines on this.
 http://www.euractiv.com/en/infosociety/eu-oblige-microsoft-offer-competitors-browsers/article-179602

 It's not that I like MS or anything, but i don't understand why this  
 is the right thing to do.
 This seems similar to the EU telling Ford they should offer other  
 openly available engines in their vehicles, instead of
 their own model.
 I guess they do things differently at the EU.
 One of the other arguments I've read about this before is that you  
 don't see any programmers who make calculators,
 upset that MS includes a calculator for free in Windows.

 If I have a business that makes a product, why should I let anyone  
 (including the government) tell me what I should
 do with or put in my product (other than illegal materials).

 thoughts?
 bb
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Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

[Tim Fournet]

The cost for an OEM copy of windows, after all the subsidies is something like 
$35. If you take into account the costs to build a process to order machines 
without an OS for the small number of people who would even request that sort 
of thing, you can see why the big box manufacturers don't want to deal with it. 
A local computer shop will do it because it's not like they have to interrupt 
an assembly line to one-off an image


- Original Message -
From: Mark A. Lappin ma...@lmfj.com
To: general@brlug.net general@brlug.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:15:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

 Few years ago when I was looking into getting a laptop, I could not get a 
 preloaded linux one
 from any major manufacturer. The situation is a little bit better now. BTW 
 the same issue applies to Apple.



A few years ago is a whole different story.  I don't use linux as my primary 
desktop OS but on the last several systems I've ordered OEM, linux has been an 
option for the pre-installed OS.  End-User desktop linux has really matured 
over the last few years, it installs easily, supports a lot more hardware 
without having to get into anything to technical which if I were an OEM 
provider would be a critical decision for me on what OS' to make available.  
Not to mention what does the purchasing market want/demand.  Many more people 
are non-Windows aware now than they were even 3 years ago and that makes a big 
difference.

Re getting a machine with no pre-installed OS,  I've never tried to as a home 
user but have been doing so in my work life since 2001 in working for various 
helpdesks/IT departments with corporate purchasing accounts.   The few machines 
I had custom built at local computer shops it was never a problem to get 
without the OS (although it really only lowered the cost of the machine by a 
few bucks, I never quite figured out that pricing structure for OEM Windows 
XP).  For the Average user I can see not putting a no OS option in various web 
based build your computer interfaces - remember the average user just wants to 
turn their computer on and have it work, if a company easily offered to the 
masses no OS as an option with a subtract $399 option, the average user 
wanting to save $400 would take it, end up calling support, being frustrated 
and then mad that it just didn't work.   I am not saying I 100% agree with not 
making it an easy option for the average home user but I can see
  why OEM vendors would not want to make it easy to do, more work and thus more 
money they may potentially have to spend meaning their margin on that machine 
just went down.  I doubt it would be easy to do even with a phone call unless 
they got a really good phone rep (unlikely) or called the business orders 
division where its more common.

I think in today's world and as non-Microsoft OS' start to take more of the 
market share, there will be more variety in whats available from big name 
computer vendors, I think it is a slow road but there is progress being made.  
Once Google releases their OS I think there will be much more of a take off of 
OEM support for home users not running Windows.


ML


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Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

[Tim Fournet]

Yes, MS will contribute Marketing Funds back to you when you complete certain 
requirements, like offering machines only with options for Windows. The bigger 
you are, the more you get, so you can't really blame the Dells of the world for 
passing them up. In the end, it ends up costing the end user more to get 
options without Windows... And at some point you have to ask yourself if it's 
worth paying more to NOT get the license, even if you don't plan on using it. I 
think for most people, even the ones that plan to put a Linux boot CD in the 
first time they turn the thing on, it's just something to accept and move on.

If it's any consolation, MS doesn't really make money on desktop operating 
systems sales anymore anyway. The real money is in application suites and 
services. The desktop OS is just their means of locking the users in - but if 
you don't run it, and you don't buy the apps from them, then they don't really 
benefit. 

Sure, they can count you as one of their installed users but that's just 
giving them more bad data, which in the long run hurts them too...




- Original Message -
From: Karthik Poobal kart...@poobal.net
To: general@brlug.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:57:16 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other browsers?

I think the subsidies that Tim talks about is if the manufacturer  
offers only windows. I think the cost of windows goes up if they offer  
OSS options. The last time I bought a windows XP system builder's  
version it cost around $100 bucks. That to me is an anticompetitive  
practice.

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Louisiana Board of Regents
kart...@poobal.net
kart...@la.gov
225-910-6126
skype: poobal






On Feb 25, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Brad Bendily wrote:

 I'm wondering though, at least for Dell, I assume they have an image
 and the hard drives get imaged way before the assembly line. So, to  
 have
 an option at the assembly line that says, select drive 1 for Windows  
 or
 drive 2 for OSS... wouldn't be too much to add. I dunno, i have no  
 idea
 how it actually works at dell, but it might not be too hard to add.
 bb

 On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Tim Fournet wrote:

 The cost for an OEM copy of windows, after all the subsidies is  
 something like $35. If you take into account the costs to build a  
 process to order machines without an OS for the small number of  
 people who would even request that sort of thing, you can see why  
 the big box manufacturers don't want to deal with it. A local  
 computer shop will do it because it's not like they have to  
 interrupt an assembly line to one-off an image


 - Original Message -
 From: Mark A. Lappin ma...@lmfj.com
 To: general@brlug.net general@brlug.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:15:51 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada  
 Central
 Subject: Re: [brlug-general] ms to remove IE, or will add other  
 browsers?

 Few years ago when I was looking into getting a laptop, I could  
 not get a preloaded linux one
 from any major manufacturer. The situation is a little bit  
 better now. BTW the same issue applies to Apple.



 A few years ago is a whole different story.  I don't use linux as  
 my primary desktop OS but on the last several systems I've ordered  
 OEM, linux has been an option for the pre-installed OS.  End-User  
 desktop linux has really matured over the last few years, it  
 installs easily, supports a lot more hardware without having to get  
 into anything to technical which if I were an OEM provider would be  
 a critical decision for me on what OS' to make available.  Not to  
 mention what does the purchasing market want/demand.  Many more  
 people are non-Windows aware now than they were even 3 years ago  
 and that makes a big difference.

 Re getting a machine with no pre-installed OS,  I've never tried to  
 as a home user but have been doing so in my work life since 2001 in  
 working for various helpdesks/IT departments with corporate  
 purchasing accounts.   The few machines I had custom built at local  
 computer shops it was never a problem to get without the OS  
 (although it really only lowered the cost of the machine by a few  
 bucks, I never quite figured out that pricing structure for OEM  
 Windows XP).  For the Average user I can see not putting a no OS  
 option in various web based build your computer interfaces -  
 remember the average user just wants to turn their computer on and  
 have it work, if a company easily offered to the masses no OS as an  
 option with a subtract $399 option, the average user wanting to  
 save $400 would take it, end up calling support, being frustrated  
 and then mad that it just didn't work.   I am not saying I 100%  
 agree with not making it an easy option for the average home user  
 but I can see
 why OEM vendors would not want to make it easy to do, more work and  
 thus more money they may potentially have to spend meaning their  
 margin on that machine

Re: [brlug-general] Cox prepares to suck more.

[Tim Fournet]

In the interest of avoiding future explosions, can we ask that any 
political topics be posted in, and only in, the -political mailing list? 
Thinking back, the original posting was fairly off-topic to begin with.

Dustin Puryear wrote:
 Will and Andrew- Topic closed. kthanksbye
   


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Re: [brlug-general] Cox prepares to suck more.

[Tim Fournet]

WORKSFORME

Dustin Puryear wrote:
 To be honest, the next time the whole personal back and forth happens
 again I'm just going to ban those involved. Problem solved.

 Tim Fournet wrote:
   
 In the interest of avoiding future explosions, can we ask that any 
 political topics be posted in, and only in, the -political mailing list? 
 Thinking back, the original posting was fairly off-topic to begin with.

 Dustin Puryear wrote:
 
 Will and Andrew- Topic closed. kthanksbye
   
   
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