Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version > 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard > Apache/Maven release process as documented at > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This > is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1 > votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev. > > PPMC release vote thread: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e > > The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator): > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078 > > The tag to be voted upon: > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/ > > Staging repo for binaries: > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/ > > Staging site: > http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/ > > Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon): > http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/ > > Guide to testing staged releases: > http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html > > Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours. > > [ ] +1 > [ ] +0 > [ ] -1 > I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you provide the link? Two other comments are: There is no incubation DISCLAIMER file in any of the release artifacts which is required as per http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases. That needs to be present either as a separate file next to the LICENSE/NOTICE files or the text may be included in the top level README, for an example see: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kato/tags/apache-kato-M1-incubating/DISCLAIMER.txt Looking back now we seem to be missing this in other releases recently too so perhaps this could be fixed on the next release if there isn't a new RC needed for anything else. I don't think the NOTICE file needs those extra comments about SoftHashMap and Spring, and perhaps the SoftHashMap comments would be better in the LICENSE file. There has been a lot of confusion about what should go in the NOTICE file and extra info is far better than missing info so up to the project what if anything to do about this. Other than that it looks good, the missing source is a problem though so sorry but my vote is -1 until that is cleared up. ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On 25/05/2010, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version > 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard > Apache/Maven release process as documented at > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This > is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1 > votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev. > > PPMC release vote thread: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e > > The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator): > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078 > > The tag to be voted upon: > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/ > > Staging repo for binaries: > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/ > > Staging site: > http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/ Does not mention that Shiro is an Incubator project, see: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html in particular http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon): > http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/ As above. > Guide to testing staged releases: > http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html > > Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours. > > [ ] +1 > [ ] +0 > [ ] -1 > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[ANNOUNCE] Apache Aries 0.1-incubating
Hi, The Apache Aries community is pleased to announce the Apache Aries 0.1-incubating release. This is the first release of Apache Aries. The Aries project delivers a set of pluggable Java components enabling an enterprise OSGi application programming model. This includes implementations and extensions of application-focused specifications defined by the OSGi Alliance Enterprise Expert Group (EEG) and an assembly format for multi-bundle applications, for deployment to a variety of OSGi based runtimes. You can find the release download linked from the home page: http://incubator.apache.org/aries Please report any issues via JIRA: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARIES A BIG thank you to all the patches, and checkins from our contributors. Thanks too to our mentors for helping us get through our first release. Cheers, Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On May 26, 2010, at 2:00 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Kalle Korhonen > wrote: >> This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version >> 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard >> Apache/Maven release process as documented at >> http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This >> is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1 >> votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev. >> >> PPMC release vote thread: >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e >> >> The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator): >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078 >> >> The tag to be voted upon: >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/ >> >> Staging repo for binaries: >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/ >> >> Staging site: >> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/ >> >> Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon): >> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/ >> >> Guide to testing staged releases: >> http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html >> >> Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours. >> >> [ ] +1 >> [ ] +0 >> [ ] -1 >> > > I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to > recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats > not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've > just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you > provide the link? All the artifacts have sources and javadocs in the same "directories". https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-all/1.0.0-incubating/ > Other than that it looks good, the missing source is a problem though > so sorry but my vote is -1 until that is cleared up. > > ...ant > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On May 26, 2010, at 3:31 AM, sebb wrote: > On 25/05/2010, Kalle Korhonen wrote: >> This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version >> 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard >> Apache/Maven release process as documented at >> http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This >> is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1 >> votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev. >> >> PPMC release vote thread: >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e >> >> The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator): >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078 >> >> The tag to be voted upon: >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/ >> >> Staging repo for binaries: >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/ >> >> Staging site: >> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/ > > Does not mention that Shiro is an Incubator project, see: > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html > in particular > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > >> Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon): >> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/ > > As above. These strike me as ongoing web site issues not release issues. Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On 26/05/2010, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On May 26, 2010, at 3:31 AM, sebb wrote: > > > On 25/05/2010, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > >> This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version > >> 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard > >> Apache/Maven release process as documented at > >> http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This > >> is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1 > >> votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev. > >> > >> PPMC release vote thread: > >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e > >> > >> The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator): > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078 > >> > >> The tag to be voted upon: > >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/ > >> > >> Staging repo for binaries: > >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/ > >> > >> Staging site: > >> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/ > > > > Does not mention that Shiro is an Incubator project, see: > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html > > in particular > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers > > > >> Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon): > >> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/ > > > > As above. > > > These strike me as ongoing web site issues not release issues. > The staging site appeared to be part of the vote as it was not specifically excluded. Regardless, I think it's important that when an Incubator project wants to do a release, consumers need to be fully aware that it is not a normal ASF release. Seems to me that this is why the branding guidelines are there. I agree that there are some website issues that have no bearing on a release. However IMO ensuring that Incubator projects are clearly identified as such is fundamental to allowing releases from Incubator projects. > Regards, > > Alan > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On May 26, 2010, at 2:00 AM, ant elder wrote: > >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Kalle Korhonen >> wrote: >>> This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version >>> 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard >>> Apache/Maven release process as documented at >>> http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This >>> is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1 >>> votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev. >>> >>> PPMC release vote thread: >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e >>> >>> The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator): >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078 >>> >>> The tag to be voted upon: >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/ >>> >>> Staging repo for binaries: >>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/ >>> >>> Staging site: >>> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/ >>> >>> Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon): >>> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/ >>> >>> Guide to testing staged releases: >>> http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html >>> >>> Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours. >>> >>> [ ] +1 >>> [ ] +0 >>> [ ] -1 >>> >> >> I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to >> recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats >> not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've >> just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you >> provide the link? > > All the artifacts have sources and javadocs in the same "directories". > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-all/1.0.0-incubating/ > AIUI all ASF releases MUST have _buildable_ source. The source jars included in those directories are not buildable. The idea behind this is that the ASF deals with source code and releases are of source packages that enable anyone to go tinker with that source, but you can't do so much useful tinkering if you can't build the source. See http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain and various emails that fly around on other mailing lists. I believe the latest Maven release plugin and Apache parent pom.xml will create the correct packages now. You probably could reconstruct a buildable source from whats in the Maven repo and if this was a small release like a single Maven plugin or something it could have been argued that this was ok and could just be updated to the new Maven release for next release, but this is something like 20 modules so to recreate it would be quite a job - working out and recreating the correct directory structure, unzip all the source jars into the correct place, download all the pom.xml's and rename them and put them in the right place etc. Or anyone leap in here and explain i've misunderstood the policy. ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
While I haven't looked at what Shiro has done, your explanation of the relevance of a buildable source package sounds fine. - Original Message > From: ant elder > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 11:11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Alan D. Cabrera < > ymailto="mailto:l...@toolazydogs.com"; > href="mailto:l...@toolazydogs.com";>l...@toolazydogs.com> > wrote: > > On May 26, 2010, at 2:00 AM, ant elder > wrote: > >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Kalle > Korhonen >> < > href="mailto:kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com";>kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, > version >>> 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the > standard >>> Apache/Maven release process as documented > at >>> > href="http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html"; > target=_blank > >http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. > This >>> is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding > IPMC +1 >>> votes for the PPMC release vote on > shiro-dev. >>> >>> PPMC release vote > thread: >>> > href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e"; > > target=_blank > >http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e >>> >>> > The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache > incubator): >>> > href="https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078"; > > target=_blank > >https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078 >>> >>> > The tag to be voted upon: >>> > href="http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/"; > > target=_blank > >http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/ >>> >>> > Staging repo for binaries: >>> > href="https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/"; > target=_blank > >https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/ >>> >>> > Staging site: >>> > href="http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/"; > target=_blank > >http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/ >>> >>> > Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted > upon): >>> > target=_blank > >http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/ >>> >>> Guide to > testing staged releases: >>> > href="http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html"; > target=_blank > >http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html >>> >>> > Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours. >>> >>> [ ] > +1 >>> [ ] +0 >>> [ ] > -1 >>> >> >> I can't find all the source for the > release. AFAICT the only way to >> recreate all the release artifacts > would be from the svn tag but thats >> not enough as an ASF release > must include a source release. If I've >> just missed it and all the > source is there somewhere then could you >> provide the > link? > > All the artifacts have sources and javadocs in the same > "directories". > > > href="https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-all/1.0.0-incubating/"; > > target=_blank > >https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-all/1.0.0-incubating/ > AIUI > all ASF releases MUST have _buildable_ source. The source jars included in > those directories are not buildable. The idea behind this is that the ASF > deals with source code and releases are of source packages that enable anyone > to go tinker with that source, but you can't do so much useful tinkering if > you can't build the source. See > href="http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain"; > target=_blank > >http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain and > various emails that fly around on other mailing lists. I believe the > latest Maven release plugin and Apache parent pom.xml will create the correct > packages now. You probably could reconstruct a buildable source from whats in > the Maven repo and if this was a small release like a single Maven plugin or > something it could have been argued that this was ok and could just be > updated to the new Maven release for next release, but this is something like > 20 modules so to recreate it would be quite a job - working out and > recreating the correct directory structure, unzip all the source jars into > the correct place, download all the pom.xml's and rename them and put > them in the right place etc. Or anyone leap in here and explain i've > misunderstood the policy. > ...ant ---
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On 26/05/2010, ant elder wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > > > On May 26, 2010, at 2:00 AM, ant elder wrote: > > > >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Kalle Korhonen > >> wrote: > >>> This is the first incubator release for Apache Shiro, version > >>> 1.0.0-incubating. The release is made following the standard > >>> Apache/Maven release process as documented at > >>> http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/apache-release.html. This > >>> is a lazy consensus vote as we already received 3 binding IPMC +1 > >>> votes for the PPMC release vote on shiro-dev. > >>> > >>> PPMC release vote thread: > >>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-shiro-dev/201005.mbox/%3caanlktik_mke9dwlatmxnzq7kwcdbs3amsu5ulymkp...@mail.gmail.com%3e > >>> > >>> The issues solved for 1.0.0 (after the project entered Apache incubator): > >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310950&styleName=Html&version=12314078 > >>> > >>> The tag to be voted upon: > >>> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shiro/tags/shiro-root-1.0.0-incubating/ > >>> > >>> Staging repo for binaries: > >>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/ > >>> > >>> Staging site: > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/static/1.0.0-incubating/ > >>> > >>> Project website (just for informational purposes, not to be voted upon): > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/shiro/ > >>> > >>> Guide to testing staged releases: > >>> http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html > >>> > >>> Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours. > >>> > >>> [ ] +1 > >>> [ ] +0 > >>> [ ] -1 > >>> > >> > >> I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to > >> recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats > >> not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've > >> just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you > >> provide the link? > > > > All the artifacts have sources and javadocs in the same "directories". > > > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-all/1.0.0-incubating/ > > > > > AIUI all ASF releases MUST have _buildable_ source. The source jars > included in those directories are not buildable. The idea behind this > is that the ASF deals with source code and releases are of source > packages that enable anyone to go tinker with that source, but you > can't do so much useful tinkering if you can't build the source. See > http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain > and various emails that fly around on other mailing lists. > > I believe the latest Maven release plugin and Apache parent pom.xml > will create the correct packages now. You probably could reconstruct a > buildable source from whats in the Maven repo and if this was a small > release like a single Maven plugin or something it could have been > argued that this was ok and could just be updated to the new Maven > release for next release, but this is something like 20 modules so to > recreate it would be quite a job - working out and recreating the > correct directory structure, unzip all the source jars into the > correct place, download all the pom.xml's and rename them and put them > in the right place etc. > > Or anyone leap in here and explain i've misunderstood the policy. I think you've put it well. == AIUI releases of Maven projects consist of two sets of artifacts: 1) Those that are released via the mirroring system. These consist of a single source archive (usually in tar.gz and .zip format, but with the same contents) plus sigs and hashes. These should agree with SVN. Usually there are one or more binary archives as well. This is the primary release mechanism for all ASF software. 2) The Maven artifacts which are often split into mutiple archives, as here. Maven releases are very common, but are not required (and may not always be appropriate). In this case AFAICT the mirrored artifacts (1) are completely missing. > >...ant > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:12 AM, sebb wrote: > The staging site appeared to be part of the vote as it was not > specifically excluded. This was a mistake - it probably should have been excluded. AFAICT, staging sites are _not_ considered release artifacts because they're never shipped/distributed. It is there for reference only. > Regardless, I think it's important that when an Incubator project > wants to do a release, consumers need to be fully aware that it is not > a normal ASF release. Seems to me that this is why the branding > guidelines are there. > I agree that there are some website issues that have no bearing on a release. > > However IMO ensuring that Incubator projects are clearly identified as > such is fundamental to allowing releases from Incubator projects. We reference the Incubator in a lot of places on the site. And we'll work on making that more prevalent as soon as possible, but as I understand it, this is not considered release criteria. Until it is, it doesn't seem that a release should be prohibited. The only thing that should prevent a release IMO would be violations of _concrete_ release criteria. Saying that "The Incubator isn't mentioned in a prevalent area of the website", while maybe true, is a nebulous statement - it is purely based on interpretation. I think it's fine to have branding as release criteria, but it needs to be explicit so we can know exactly what the problem is and how to fix it (e.g. "Incubator must be linked to from the page graphic header" or "Must be linked as a root-level navigation element in the site's nav bar", etc). Until that happens, it is unfair to prevent a release based on personal interpretation when all other criteria have been met. - Les - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, ant elder wrote: >>> I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to >>> recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats >>> not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've >>> just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you >>> provide the link? It is part of the staging repo under the provided URL: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005 Specifically, the complete buildable source package is here: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-root/1.0.0-incubating/ Les - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On 26/05/2010, Les Hazlewood wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:12 AM, sebb wrote: > > > The staging site appeared to be part of the vote as it was not > > specifically excluded. > > > This was a mistake - it probably should have been excluded. AFAICT, > staging sites are _not_ considered release artifacts because they're > never shipped/distributed. It is there for reference only. > > > > Regardless, I think it's important that when an Incubator project > > wants to do a release, consumers need to be fully aware that it is not > > a normal ASF release. Seems to me that this is why the branding > > guidelines are there. > > > I agree that there are some website issues that have no bearing on a > release. > > > > However IMO ensuring that Incubator projects are clearly identified as > > such is fundamental to allowing releases from Incubator projects. > > > We reference the Incubator in a lot of places on the site. And we'll > work on making that more prevalent as soon as possible, but as I > understand it, this is not considered release criteria. Until it is, > it doesn't seem that a release should be prohibited. If anything, I would see it as a pre-release criterion > The only thing that should prevent a release IMO would be violations > of _concrete_ release criteria. Saying that "The Incubator isn't > mentioned in a prevalent area of the website", while maybe true, is a > nebulous statement - it is purely based on interpretation. > > I think it's fine to have branding as release criteria, but it needs > to be explicit so we can know exactly what the problem is and how to > fix it (e.g. "Incubator must be linked to from the page graphic > header" or "Must be linked as a root-level navigation element in the > site's nav bar", etc). Until that happens, it is unfair to prevent a > release based on personal interpretation when all other criteria have > been met. Sure that's precisely what http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html in particular http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers is all about. This is very similar to Ant Elder's point about the missing disclaimers in the release materials. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On 26/05/2010, Les Hazlewood wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, ant elder wrote: > > >>> I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to > >>> recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats > >>> not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've > >>> just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you > >>> provide the link? > > > It is part of the staging repo under the provided URL: > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005 > > > Specifically, the complete buildable source package is here: > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-root/1.0.0-incubating/ > It's a bit confusing to have two copies of the N&L files in the root of the archive: LICENSE and LICENSE.txt have the same content. NOTICE and NOTICE.txt have significantly different content. LICENSE and NOTICE are not in SVN as far as I can tell, so where do they come from? It would be helpful to include a pointer to the KEYS file (eventually found it at the root of SVN). > Les > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:14 AM, sebb wrote: > It's a bit confusing to have two copies of the N&L files in the root > of the archive: > LICENSE and LICENSE.txt have the same content. > NOTICE and NOTICE.txt have significantly different content. > LICENSE and NOTICE are not in SVN as far as I can tell, so where do > they come from? The ones in our SVN are redundant. LICENSE and NOTICE come via the remote-resources-plugin configuration in Apache parent pom, see http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/apache/7/apache-7.pom > It would be helpful to include a pointer to the KEYS file (eventually > found it at the root of SVN). KEYS file should always be at the root of the svn right? But I do apologize, should have included a link to it in the voting post. Kalle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On May 26, 2010, at 10:14 AM, sebb wrote: On 26/05/2010, Les Hazlewood wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, ant elder wrote: I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you provide the link? It is part of the staging repo under the provided URL: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005 Specifically, the complete buildable source package is here: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-root/1.0.0-incubating/ It's a bit confusing to have two copies of the N&L files in the root of the archive: LICENSE and LICENSE.txt have the same content. NOTICE and NOTICE.txt have significantly different content. LICENSE and NOTICE are not in SVN as far as I can tell, so where do they come from? It would be helpful to include a pointer to the KEYS file (eventually found it at the root of SVN). This is a vote. Here you present good ideas. I suggest you post them to the Shiro dev group for consideration. Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On May 26, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, ant elder wrote: I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you provide the link? It is part of the staging repo under the provided URL: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005 Specifically, the complete buildable source package is here: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-root/1.0.0-incubating/ Opps. What he said. :) Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, ant elder wrote: > I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you provide the link? > > It is part of the staging repo under the provided URL: > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005 > > Specifically, the complete buildable source package is here: > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-root/1.0.0-incubating/ > > Les > Smashing, ok i change my vote to +1 then. ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
Thanks Ant! And we'll be updating the website today to have all the valid disclaimers and links back to the Incubator website. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:02 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote: >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, ant elder wrote: >> > I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to > recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats > not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've > just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you > provide the link? >> >> It is part of the staging repo under the provided URL: >> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005 >> >> Specifically, the complete buildable source package is here: >> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-root/1.0.0-incubating/ >> >> Les >> > > Smashing, ok i change my vote to +1 then. > > ...ant > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
On 26/05/2010, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:14 AM, sebb wrote: > > It's a bit confusing to have two copies of the N&L files in the root > > of the archive: > > LICENSE and LICENSE.txt have the same content. > > NOTICE and NOTICE.txt have significantly different content. > > LICENSE and NOTICE are not in SVN as far as I can tell, so where do > > they come from? > > > The ones in our SVN are redundant. AIUI they are needed in SVN as well. > LICENSE and NOTICE come via the > remote-resources-plugin configuration in Apache parent pom, see > http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/apache/7/apache-7.pom The remote-resources plugin has only generated a rudimentary NOTICE file, which does not seem to cover all the contributions. What about the SpringSource code? Does that not need a mention? > > > It would be helpful to include a pointer to the KEYS file (eventually > > found it at the root of SVN). > > > KEYS file should always be at the root of the svn right? Not necessarily. It may be in a site module which is used to maintain www.apache.org/dist/project files (e.g. HEADER and README html files). This is because it must be present in the dist/ directory, so it makes it convenient to store it alongside HEADER and README. Have a look at the subdirectories under: http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ and you will see that there is a KEYS file for each (apart from one or two that don't have any files in them yet). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Shiro version 1.0.0-incubating
This looks correct to me. The way it's setup with the apache parent pom is that the root module will have the fully buildable source, all the individual modules still have their source and jdocs for ide integration. On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, ant elder wrote: > I can't find all the source for the release. AFAICT the only way to recreate all the release artifacts would be from the svn tag but thats not enough as an ASF release must include a source release. If I've just missed it and all the source is there somewhere then could you provide the link? > > It is part of the staging repo under the provided URL: > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005 > > Specifically, the complete buildable source package is here: > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheshiro-005/org/apache/shiro/shiro-root/1.0.0-incubating/ > > Les > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
