Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

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> On Mar 4, 2019, at 10:38 PM, Danny Angus  wrote:
> 
> I think we have had projects "leave", back in the day, before we were
> structured like this. But thinking about a example, maybe they were
> sub-projects.
> 
> It's worth noting that anyone is free to fork an Apache licenced project at
> any time, so there is some protection should the founders which to leave
> the foundation with their code. Trademarks would be different.

Yes, trademarks are different, but if the project already has an existing 
registered trademark that could be discussed with VP, Brand. It has happened 
that trademark assignment has been negotiated to occur once a podling 
graduates, but it is not the normal case.

Write tradema...@apache.org if you want to discuss.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> D.
> 
>> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, 6:27 am Justin Mclean,  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is there a specific reason you ask this?
>> 
>>> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also
>> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
>> 
>> Yes it usually called retiring (although podling don’t really retire) ,
>> but some projects live on elsewhere (like GitHub). The existing ALv2 would
>> need to be honoured and the project may need to change it name from the
>> Apache one, but it may not have to. See for example ODF Toolkit.
>> 
>>> 2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to
>> voluntarily withdraw?
>> 
>> An Apache project can be retired to the Attic. [1] After this development
>> could possibly occur elsewhere, but there may be naming and trademark
>> issues to consider.
>> 
>> I would assume if a project asked the board to no longer be an Apache
>> project / podling they would consider it and probably wouldn’t want to keep
>> a project here against it’s will. I can’t recall this ever happening.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>> 
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回复：Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[Liu Ted]

Hi Danny, For Trademark, only after graduation as a TLP, the project donation 
is then completed and the trademark belongs to ASF, which cannot be withdrawn 
or reversed,  right?

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador 
 
  2019 年 3 月 5 日周二 14:38，Danny Angus 写道：   I think we 
have had projects "leave", back in the day, before we were structured like 
this. But thinking about a example, maybe they were sub-projects.
It's worth noting that anyone is free to fork an Apache licenced project at any 
time, so there is some protection should the founders which to leave the 
foundation with their code. Trademarks would be different.
D.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, 6:27 am Justin Mclean,  wrote:


Hi,

Is there a specific reason you ask this?

> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?

Yes it usually called retiring (although podling don’t really retire) , but 
some projects live on elsewhere (like GitHub). The existing ALv2 would need to 
be honoured and the project may need to change it name from the Apache one, but 
it may not have to. See for example ODF Toolkit.

> 2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
> withdraw?

An Apache project can be retired to the Attic. [1] After this development could 
possibly occur elsewhere, but there may be naming and trademark issues to 
consider.

I would assume if a project asked the board to no longer be an Apache project / 
podling they would consider it and probably wouldn’t want to keep a project 
here against it’s will. I can’t recall this ever happening.

Thanks,
Justin

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Re: Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[???? Sheng Wu]

> Hi Sheng, Thanks. Yes, It does mean the original contributor team (or 
> company). I guess the questions were to understand all possible scenarios and 
> options before they actually move forward to donating.


Yes. Even I don't want to see leave, no matter retire or original team leave. 
But that is an option.
Please don't feel the ASF or Incubator would lock-in. They act as individuals, 
they could choose.


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-- Original --
From:  "Liu Ted";
Date:  Tue, Mar 5, 2019 02:49 PM
To:  " Sheng 
Wu";"general";

Subject:  ??Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?



Hi Sheng, Thanks. Yes, It does mean the original contributor team (or company). 
I guess the questions were to understand all possible scenarios and options 
before they actually move forward to donating.

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador 
 
  2019 ?? 3 ?? 5 ?? 14:36?? Sheng Wu ??   Hi
> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
I think it could be. But I hope this would not happen.Such as the community 
doesn't think the ASF fits their requirements(not common case), or retire from 
incubator because of leaking activities for a long time.
> After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
> withdraw?
I assume you said TLP has right, it means the original contributor team(or 
company) has right. Correct me if I am wrong.During the incubator and graduate 
successfully, the PMC of TLP should be diversity,new PMC/committer should join 
the community because of it is open sourced, some may because trusting ASF.If 
your withdraw means close sources, even it just means open out of ASF,I doubt 
it will success from the PMC vote.
Just my thought:) It is really rare to have this, except retirement, which 
happens sometimes, sadly.
--Sheng WuApache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, ZipkinTwitter, 
wusheng1108 

-- Original --From:  "Liu 
Ted";Date:  Tue, Mar 5, 2019 02:12 PMTo:  "Incubator 
General";Subject:  Withdraw from Incubator or TLP 
status?
Hi, A couple of questions are raised from a project who is interested in 
donating to ASF and entering the ASF Incubator:
1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
withdraw?
I searched thru the policies and guidances but cannot find the answers. Could 
anyone shed some light here?

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador

回复：Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[Liu Ted]

Hi Sheng, Thanks. Yes, It does mean the original contributor team (or company). 
I guess the questions were to understand all possible scenarios and options 
before they actually move forward to donating.

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador 
 
  2019 年 3 月 5 日周二 14:36，吴晟 Sheng Wu 写道：   Hi
> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
I think it could be. But I hope this would not happen.Such as the community 
doesn't think the ASF fits their requirements(not common case), or retire from 
incubator because of leaking activities for a long time.
> After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
> withdraw?
I assume you said TLP has right, it means the original contributor team(or 
company) has right. Correct me if I am wrong.During the incubator and graduate 
successfully, the PMC of TLP should be diversity,new PMC/committer should join 
the community because of it is open sourced, some may because trusting ASF.If 
your withdraw means close sources, even it just means open out of ASF,I doubt 
it will success from the PMC vote.
Just my thought:) It is really rare to have this, except retirement, which 
happens sometimes, sadly.
--Sheng WuApache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, ZipkinTwitter, 
wusheng1108 

-- Original --From:  "Liu 
Ted";Date:  Tue, Mar 5, 2019 02:12 PMTo:  "Incubator 
General";Subject:  Withdraw from Incubator or TLP 
status?
Hi, A couple of questions are raised from a project who is interested in 
donating to ASF and entering the ASF Incubator:
1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
withdraw?
I searched thru the policies and guidances but cannot find the answers. Could 
anyone shed some light here?

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador
  

回复：Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[Liu Ted]

Got it. It's quite clear to me now.

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador 
 
  2019 年 3 月 5 日周二 14:38，Danny Angus 写道：   I think we 
have had projects "leave", back in the day, before we were structured like 
this. But thinking about a example, maybe they were sub-projects.
It's worth noting that anyone is free to fork an Apache licenced project at any 
time, so there is some protection should the founders which to leave the 
foundation with their code. Trademarks would be different.
D.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, 6:27 am Justin Mclean,  wrote:


Hi,

Is there a specific reason you ask this?

> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?

Yes it usually called retiring (although podling don’t really retire) , but 
some projects live on elsewhere (like GitHub). The existing ALv2 would need to 
be honoured and the project may need to change it name from the Apache one, but 
it may not have to. See for example ODF Toolkit.

> 2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
> withdraw?

An Apache project can be retired to the Attic. [1] After this development could 
possibly occur elsewhere, but there may be naming and trademark issues to 
consider.

I would assume if a project asked the board to no longer be an Apache project / 
podling they would consider it and probably wouldn’t want to keep a project 
here against it’s will. I can’t recall this ever happening.

Thanks,
Justin

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回复：Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[Liu Ted]

Hi Justin, Thank you for the prompt reply. The questions were raised by a 
project who is interested in donating to ASF and joining the Incubator. I think 
they'd want to know about entering and exiting options and flexibility in case 
they feel not fitting. I will explore more later.

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador 
 
  2019 年 3 月 5 日周二 14:27，Justin Mclean 写道：   
Hi,

Is there a specific reason you ask this?

> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?

Yes it usually called retiring (although podling don’t really retire) , but 
some projects live on elsewhere (like GitHub). The existing ALv2 would need to 
be honoured and the project may need to change it name from the Apache one, but 
it may not have to. See for example ODF Toolkit.

> 2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
> withdraw?

An Apache project can be retired to the Attic. [1] After this development could 
possibly occur elsewhere, but there may be naming and trademark issues to 
consider.

I would assume if a project asked the board to no longer be an Apache project / 
podling they would consider it and probably wouldn’t want to keep a project 
here against it’s will. I can’t recall this ever happening.

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://attic.apache.org/process.html  

Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[Danny Angus]

I think we have had projects "leave", back in the day, before we were
structured like this. But thinking about a example, maybe they were
sub-projects.

It's worth noting that anyone is free to fork an Apache licenced project at
any time, so there is some protection should the founders which to leave
the foundation with their code. Trademarks would be different.

D.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, 6:27 am Justin Mclean,  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a specific reason you ask this?
>
> > 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also
> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
>
> Yes it usually called retiring (although podling don’t really retire) ,
> but some projects live on elsewhere (like GitHub). The existing ALv2 would
> need to be honoured and the project may need to change it name from the
> Apache one, but it may not have to. See for example ODF Toolkit.
>
> > 2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to
> voluntarily withdraw?
>
> An Apache project can be retired to the Attic. [1] After this development
> could possibly occur elsewhere, but there may be naming and trademark
> issues to consider.
>
> I would assume if a project asked the board to no longer be an Apache
> project / podling they would consider it and probably wouldn’t want to keep
> a project here against it’s will. I can’t recall this ever happening.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
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>

Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[???? Sheng Wu]

Hi


> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?


I think it could be. But I hope this would not happen.
Such as the community doesn't think the ASF fits their requirements(not common 
case), 
or retire from incubator because of leaking activities for a long time.


> After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
> withdraw?


I assume you said TLP has right, it means the original contributor team(or 
company) has right. Correct me if I am wrong.
During the incubator and graduate successfully, the PMC of TLP should be 
diversity,
new PMC/committer should join the community because of it is open sourced, some 
may because trusting ASF.
If your withdraw means close sources, even it just means open out of ASF,
I doubt it will success from the PMC vote.


Just my thought:) It is really rare to have this, except retirement, which 
happens sometimes, sadly.


--
Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




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From:  "Liu Ted";
Date:  Tue, Mar 5, 2019 02:12 PM
To:  "Incubator General";

Subject:  Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?



Hi, A couple of questions are raised from a project who is interested in 
donating to ASF and entering the ASF Incubator:
1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
withdraw?
I searched thru the policies and guidances but cannot find the answers. Could 
anyone shed some light here?

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador

Re: Missing podling reports

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

A few more podling have submitted reports but there quite a few to go and these 
are due tomorrow

I can see a couple are being worked on.

- Crail
- Daffodil
- Druid
- Iceberg
- Marvin-AI
- Omid
- Samoa
- Singa
- Spot
- Superset
- Tamaya
- Taverna
- Tephra
- Training
- Warble

Thanks,
Justin


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Re: Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Is there a specific reason you ask this?

> 1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
> entitled to voluntarily withdraw?

Yes it usually called retiring (although podling don’t really retire) , but 
some projects live on elsewhere (like GitHub). The existing ALv2 would need to 
be honoured and the project may need to change it name from the Apache one, but 
it may not have to. See for example ODF Toolkit.

> 2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
> withdraw?

An Apache project can be retired to the Attic. [1] After this development could 
possibly occur elsewhere, but there may be naming and trademark issues to 
consider.

I would assume if a project asked the board to no longer be an Apache project / 
podling they would consider it and probably wouldn’t want to keep a project 
here against it’s will. I can’t recall this ever happening.

Thanks,
Justin

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Withdraw from Incubator or TLP status?

[Liu Ted]

Hi, A couple of questions are raised from a project who is interested in 
donating to ASF and entering the ASF Incubator:
1. In the incubation period, because of some special matters, is it also 
entitled to voluntarily withdraw?
2. After becoming a TLP, can this TLP still have the right to voluntarily 
withdraw?
I searched thru the policies and guidances but cannot find the answers. Could 
anyone shed some light here?

Best regards,

Ted Liu, 
ASF Member & Sponsor Ambassador

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pinot (incubating) 0.1.0 RC0

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> How do you think on this? I discussed with one of our mentors and he was
> fine with including binary LICENSE/NOTICE file to a source code release.

As long as it clear they are for the binary and not the source release I don’t 
see any issue with that.

> 2. Can you provide me some example projects that are including
> version/commitid/tag for each listed dependencies as a reference?

As the license can change between versions of a product (see bootstrap for 
instance) it’s a good idea to include its version number..

> 3. I guess that the archives that you mention are probably sample data that
> are used for unit/integration tests. If we removed those archives, tests
> will probably fail.

As long as they don’t contain compiled code (and they didn’t last  release I 
reviewed) it’s fine.

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:42 PM Craig Russell  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:12 AM, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> >> The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> >
> > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
> >> It also means that the person is aware that the private@ list is
> >> something they need to follow.
> >
> As noted else-thread, there is an alternate method to subscribing to the 
> email lists, by sending email to 
> private-subscribe-EMAIL.ADDRESS=domain@skywalking.apache.org
>
> > Not getting any response at all is not an indication of whether the list 
> > exist of not, unfortunately.
> >
> > Anyway… to the thread's discussion: every PPMC received an invitation (per 
> > Apache template) that requested subscription to both dev and private ML. 
> > Reading the ASF guidelines here: 
> > https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#communication ; I 
> > interpret it as they SHOULD be subscribed rather than MUST, and I'm curious 
> > as to whether how many of the TLPs are actually enforcing this among their 
> > pmc, if any. It's an interesting discussion… but I'm not entirely convinced 
> > it's an accurate shortcoming to whether the podling is ready for graduation 
> > or not.
>
> I think the question is not "Is SkyWalking ready to graduate" but "Is the 
> proposed PMC list accurate".
>
> The PMC members are responsible for governing the TLP and as such need to be 
> familiar with what is expected of them. Governance activities are conducted 
> on the PPMC private list. If a PPMC member has not participated in any 
> governance activities during incubation, it's unclear that they belong on the 
> PMC.
>
> Reviewing the last several months of private@skywalking list, most of the 
> discussion of new committers has had only four or five participants, who are 
> clearly involved in governance of the project.

>From a peanut gallery: has the podling considered PMC == committers at
the graduation point?
The two lists look very close to each other.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Mick Semb Wever]

> If possible can one of the PPMC members / mentors explain what these 
> issue are in a little more detail. 


All 7 items are resolved. The "Three most important issues to address in the 
move towards graduation" section had been misread by all of us, as the list had 
accumulated over time, and is now only consisting of resolved items.  It's been 
fixed in the report.

https://incubator.apache.org/projects/skywalking.html was more accurate, in 
that it provides dates over resolved items.


regards,
Mick

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> "Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> 1. IP clearance.
> 3. First ASF release. (SkyWalking 5.0)
> 3. Further ASF culture and processes.
> ...
> 7. Clear Brand issues with other ecosystem projects.“
> 
> If possible can one of the PPMC members / mentors explain what these issue 
> are in a little more detail. It’s seems a little unusual for these things to 
> be listed and presumably unresolved if the project is considering graduation, 
> especially the IP clearance issue. I can see the whimsey page (probably 
> incorrectly) states that "No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed” [1]

I also note that IP clearance has been listed in every single board report 
since the first one. [1]

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/SkyWalking.html

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> HI,
> 
>> Removing those two initial PPMC that have since been quiet has not been 
>> done, I'm waiting on confirmation on whether that is needed/requested.
> 
> The PPMC should be able to discuss that and work that out themselves and come 
> up with the right answer if they are ready for graduation.
> 
> I was just looking at this month board report and noticed these in SkyWalking 
> report:
> 
> "Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>  1. IP clearance.
>  3. First ASF release. (SkyWalking 5.0)
>  3. Further ASF culture and processes.
> ...
>  7. Clear Brand issues with other ecosystem projects.“
> 
> If possible can one of the PPMC members / mentors explain what these issue 
> are in a little more detail. It’s seems a little unusual for these things to 
> be listed and presumably unresolved if the project is considering graduation, 
> especially the IP clearance issue. I can see the whimsey page (probably 
> incorrectly) states that "No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed” [1]

Whimsy uses an extra status file that is not well documented in 
content/podlings/skywalking.yml which is completely manual and duplicates in an 
easier format than content/projects/skywalking.xml

I’ve been looking at this in light of the whole clutch process. See threads on 
general@.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Justin Mclean]

HI,

> Removing those two initial PPMC that have since been quiet has not been done, 
> I'm waiting on confirmation on whether that is needed/requested.

The PPMC should be able to discuss that and work that out themselves and come 
up with the right answer if they are ready for graduation.

I was just looking at this month board report and noticed these in SkyWalking 
report:

"Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
  1. IP clearance.
  3. First ASF release. (SkyWalking 5.0)
  3. Further ASF culture and processes.
 ...
  7. Clear Brand issues with other ecosystem projects.“

If possible can one of the PPMC members / mentors explain what these issue are 
in a little more detail. It’s seems a little unusual for these things to be 
listed and presumably unresolved if the project is considering graduation, 
especially the IP clearance issue. I can see the whimsey page (probably 
incorrectly) states that "No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed” [1]

Thanks,
Justin

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??????????: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[???? Sheng Wu]

Hi Sebb, John


Look like both of them solved this issue by whimsy portal. Even still need 
mutiple tries.


I don't know why, it occasionally work. Most are not.


Anyway, thanks all for helps. 

Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin

From Wu Sheng 's phone.


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??: general 
: private , dev 
, sebb 
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HI, AllThe problem of subscribing to the private list has been resolved, thanks




 Kai Wang  ??2019??3??5?? 10:20??

Hi All:
I used https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe to subscribe 
priv...@skywalking.apache.org failed, my gmail mailbox did not receive any mail
 


IluckySi <1151262...@qq.com> ??2019??3??5?? 9:36??

Hi, All: 
I user https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe to subscribe 
priv...@skywalking.apache.org successfully~


Thank you~



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Hi

There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.

At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.

John

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM  Sheng Wu  wrote:

> Hi Sebb
>
>
> I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
> This is my reply.
>
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> success.
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> to subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  " Sheng Wu";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> To:  "sebb";
>
> Subject:  Re:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> success.
>
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> to subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "sebb";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> To:  "general";
> Cc:  "dev";
> Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just sent confirm
> `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
> outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
> > Still fail, 6 times just today
>
> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>
> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> >
> > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
> oracle...@gmail.com)
> > Get nothing.
>
> Who gets nothing?
>
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "wang yao";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > To:  "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org
> ";
> >
> > Subject:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> 

?????? Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[DongXue Si(IluckySi)]

Hi:
I have changed my email name to DongXue Si(IluckySi) <1151262...@qq.com>




--  --
??: "mck";
: 2019??3??5??(??) 8:08
??: "general";

: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



 Kai Wang,

Please remember to to setup your email name/account so the sender is " Kai 
Wang" for all emails to apache ML.

For those of us that can't read chinese it is too difficult to identify your 
real name. Adding your english alias after your chinese name honours your 
original name and identity (and culture) while also giving the rest of us the 
required handle to remember you by.

And if you can remember to keep reminding folk of this as they join the 
project, it would be most appreciated and kind.

regards,
Mick


On Mon, 4 Mar 2019, at 22:45,  wrote:
> hi, Sebbaz:
> I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.
> My email is oracle...@gmail.com
> 
> IluckySi <1151262...@qq.com> ??2019??3??4?? 7:41??
> 
> > hi, Sebbaz:
> > I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.
> >
> >
> > --  --
> > ??: "wu.sheng";
> > : 2019??3??4??(??) 7:26
> > ??: "Incubator General";"general"<
> > general@incubator.apache.org>;"dev";
> >
> > : Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache
> > SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Yao Wang
> >
> >
> > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see
> > whether we could pass this time.
> >
> >
> > Sebb
> > Appreciate very much.
> >
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >
> > From Wu Sheng 's phone.
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From: sebb 
> > Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> > To: general 
> > Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
> >
> > I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> > subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
> >
> > I have added myself as a moderator to private@
> >
> > Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ??
> 
>

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[王凯 Kai Wang]

HI, All
The problem of subscribing to the private list has been resolved, thanks

王凯 Kai Wang  于2019年3月5日周二 上午10:20写道：

> Hi All:
> I used https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe to subscribe
> priv...@skywalking.apache.org failed, my gmail mailbox did not receive
> any mail
>
>
> IluckySi <1151262...@qq.com> 于2019年3月5日周二 上午9:36写道：
>
>> Hi, All:
>> I user https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe to subscribe
>> priv...@skywalking.apache.org successfully~
>>
>>
>> Thank you~
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 原始邮件 --
>> 发件人: "John D. Ament";
>> 发送时间: 2019年3月4日(星期一) 晚上11:37
>> 收件人: "general";
>> 抄送: "dev"; "sebb";
>> 主题: Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
>> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
>> You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
>> subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.
>>
>> At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Sebb
>> >
>> >
>> > I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
>> > This is my reply.
>> >
>> >
>> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the
>> list.
>> >
>> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
>> > success.
>> >
>> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>> >
>> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>> >
>> > > Who gets nothing?
>> >
>> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent
>> mail
>> > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
>> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm
>> mail
>> > to subscriber, right?
>> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sheng Wu
>> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>> > Twitter, wusheng1108
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- Original --
>> > From:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
>> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
>> > To:  "sebb";
>> >
>> > Subject:  Re:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
>> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the
>> list.
>> >
>> >
>> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
>> > success.
>> >
>> >
>> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>> >
>> >
>> > > Who gets nothing?
>> >
>> >
>> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent
>> mail
>> > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
>> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm
>> mail
>> > to subscriber, right?
>> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sheng Wu
>> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>> > Twitter, wusheng1108
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -- Original --
>> > From:  "sebb";
>> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
>> > To:  "general";
>> > Cc:  "dev";
>> > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
>> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Sebb
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I just sent confirm
>> > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
>> > outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
>> > > Still fail, 6 times just today
>> >
>> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>> >
>> > By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
>> > contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
>> > moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>> >
>> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>> >
>> > >
>> > > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
>> > oracle...@gmail.com)
>> > > Get nothing.
>> >
>> > Who gets nothing?
>> >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Sheng Wu
>> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -- Original --
>> > > From:  "wang yao";
>> > > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
>> > > To:  "general";"
>> d...@skywalking.apache.org
>> > ";
>> > >
>> > > Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
>> Graduate
>> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
>> > >
>> > > —
>> > > Yao Wang
>

Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[王凯 Kai Wang]

Hi Mick
Thanks for reminding my name/account, I I've already changed it

mck  于2019年3月5日周二 上午8:08写道：

> 王凯 Kai Wang,
>
> Please remember to to setup your email name/account so the sender is "王凯
> Kai Wang" for all emails to apache ML.
>
> For those of us that can't read chinese it is too difficult to identify
> your real name. Adding your english alias after your chinese name honours
> your original name and identity (and culture) while also giving the rest of
> us the required handle to remember you by.
>
> And if you can remember to keep reminding folk of this as they join the
> project, it would be most appreciated and kind.
>
> regards,
> Mick
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019, at 22:45, 王凯 wrote:
> > hi, Sebbaz:
> > I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > My email is oracle...@gmail.com
> >
> > IluckySi <1151262...@qq.com> 于2019年3月4日周一 下午7:41写道：
> >
> > > hi, Sebbaz:
> > > I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 原始邮件 --
> > > 发件人: "wu.sheng";
> > > 发送时间: 2019年3月4日(星期一) 晚上7:26
> > > 收件人: "Incubator General";"general"<
> > > general@incubator.apache.org>;"dev";
> > >
> > > 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache
> > > SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Yao Wang
> > >
> > >
> > > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's
> see
> > > whether we could pass this time.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sebb
> > > Appreciate very much.
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > >
> > > From Wu Sheng 's phone.
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --
> > > From: sebb 
> > > Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> > > To: general 
> > > Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> > > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
> > >
> > > I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> > > subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
> > >
> > > I have added myself as a moderator to private@
> > >
> > > Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?
> > >
> > > S.
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 致以崇高的敬意
> > 王凯
> >
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
>
>

-- 
王凯 Kai Wang

Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[王凯 Kai Wang]

Hi All:
I used https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe to subscribe
priv...@skywalking.apache.org failed, my gmail mailbox did not receive any
mail


IluckySi <1151262...@qq.com> 于2019年3月5日周二 上午9:36写道：

> Hi, All:
> I user https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe to subscribe
> priv...@skywalking.apache.org successfully~
>
>
> Thank you~
>
>
>
> -- 原始邮件 --
> 发件人: "John D. Ament";
> 发送时间: 2019年3月4日(星期一) 晚上11:37
> 收件人: "general";
> 抄送: "dev"; "sebb";
> 主题: Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
> You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
> subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.
>
> At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
> > This is my reply.
> >
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the
> list.
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> > success.
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> > To:  "sebb";
> >
> > Subject:  Re:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the
> list.
> >
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> > success.
> >
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "sebb";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> > To:  "general";
> > Cc:  "dev";
> > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sebb
> > >
> > >
> > > I just sent confirm
> > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
> > outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
> > > Still fail, 6 times just today
> >
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> > contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> > moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
> >
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > >
> > > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
> > oracle...@gmail.com)
> > > Get nothing.
> >
> > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --
> > > From:  "wang yao";
> > > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > > To:  "general";"
> d...@skywalking.apache.org
> > ";
> > >
> > > Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
> > >
> > > —
> > > Yao Wang
> > > Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> > > Twitter, @tinyallen16
> > >
> > > 
> > > 发件人: 吴晟 Sheng Wu 
> > > 发送时间: 2019年3月4日 19:26
> > > 收件人: Incubator General; general; dev
> > > 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as 

?????? ????: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[IluckySi]

Hi, All: 
I user https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe to subscribe 
priv...@skywalking.apache.org successfully~


Thank you~



--  --
??: "John D. Ament";
: 2019??3??4??(??) 11:37
??: "general";
: "dev"; "sebb"; 
: Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



Hi

There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.

At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.

John

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM  Sheng Wu  wrote:

> Hi Sebb
>
>
> I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
> This is my reply.
>
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> success.
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> to subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  " Sheng Wu";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> To:  "sebb";
>
> Subject:  Re:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> success.
>
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> to subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "sebb";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> To:  "general";
> Cc:  "dev";
> Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just sent confirm
> `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
> outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
> > Still fail, 6 times just today
>
> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>
> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> >
> > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
> oracle...@gmail.com)
> > Get nothing.
>
> Who gets nothing?
>
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "wang yao";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > To:  "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org
> ";
> >
> > Subject:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
> >
> > ??
> > Yao Wang
> > Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> > Twitter, @tinyallen16
> >
> > 
> > ??:  Sheng Wu 
> > : 2019??3??4?? 19:26
> > ??: Incubator General; general; dev
> > : Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > Hi Yao Wang
> >
> >
> > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's
> see whether we could pass this time.
> >
> >
> > Sebb
> > Appreciate very much.
> >
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >
> > From Wu Sheng 's phone.
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From: sebb 
> > Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> > To: general 
> > Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (inc

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Dave Fisher]

Wonderful!


> On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> 
> 
>> May I see a link to the planned Graduation Resolution?
> 
> 
> The planned graduation resolution is in this DISCUSS thread above, 
> specifically here: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/bf9512ac5441f602c41fe8fe7e11d9fa6121f04fc8d3f0cd39249b13@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>  
> 
> That includes the updates addressing feedback from both Justin and Sebb.
> Removing those two initial PPMC that have since been quiet has not been done, 
> I'm waiting on confirmation on whether that is needed/requested.

+1 either way.

Regards,
Dave



> 
> regards,
> Mick
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Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[mck]

王凯 Kai Wang,

Please remember to to setup your email name/account so the sender is "王凯 Kai 
Wang" for all emails to apache ML.

For those of us that can't read chinese it is too difficult to identify your 
real name. Adding your english alias after your chinese name honours your 
original name and identity (and culture) while also giving the rest of us the 
required handle to remember you by.

And if you can remember to keep reminding folk of this as they join the 
project, it would be most appreciated and kind.

regards,
Mick


On Mon, 4 Mar 2019, at 22:45, 王凯 wrote:
> hi, Sebbaz:
> I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.
> My email is oracle...@gmail.com
> 
> IluckySi <1151262...@qq.com> 于2019年3月4日周一 下午7:41写道：
> 
> > hi, Sebbaz:
> > I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.
> >
> >
> > -- 原始邮件 --
> > 发件人: "wu.sheng";
> > 发送时间: 2019年3月4日(星期一) 晚上7:26
> > 收件人: "Incubator General";"general"<
> > general@incubator.apache.org>;"dev";
> >
> > 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache
> > SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Yao Wang
> >
> >
> > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see
> > whether we could pass this time.
> >
> >
> > Sebb
> > Appreciate very much.
> >
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >
> > From Wu Sheng 's phone.
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From: sebb 
> > Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> > To: general 
> > Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
> >
> > I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> > subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
> >
> > I have added myself as a moderator to private@
> >
> > Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -
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> 
> 
> -- 
> 致以崇高的敬意
> 王凯
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Mick Semb Wever]

> May I see a link to the planned Graduation Resolution?


The planned graduation resolution is in this DISCUSS thread above, specifically 
here: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/bf9512ac5441f602c41fe8fe7e11d9fa6121f04fc8d3f0cd39249b13@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
 

That includes the updates addressing feedback from both Justin and Sebb.
Removing those two initial PPMC that have since been quiet has not been done, 
I'm waiting on confirmation on whether that is needed/requested.

regards,
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Mick Semb Wever]

> I think the question is not "Is SkyWalking ready to graduate" but "Is 
> the proposed PMC list accurate".
> 
> The PMC members are responsible for governing the TLP and as such need 
> to be familiar with what is expected of them. Governance activities are 
> conducted on the PPMC private list. If a PPMC member has not 
> participated in any governance activities during incubation, it's 
> unclear that they belong on the PMC. 
> 
> Reviewing the last several months of private@skywalking list, most of 
> the discussion of new committers has had only four or five 
> participants, who are clearly involved in governance of the project. 


If this is a criteria then there are two trusted committers from the initial 
podling creation that have since then not been active. They should be then 
removed. They are Sheng Wang and Yuntao Li.
Those that were added in the last round will not have been involved in any 
private threads, and only the vote threads are on private. Every other podling 
related discussion has happen on the dev ML.


> Well the graduation was put off last time because the project was not 
> correctly recognising merit, and they have fixed that by voting more folks 
> but but if they are not active then I’m not sure what has been fixed. It 
> seems this could be a symptom of the same problem? 

It is not. Those that have been added recently have had no need to be involved 
in any private ML discussions, as there has't been any since. It becomes a bit 
absurd if those PPMC last added can never be included in any podling graduation 
proposal. 


> Out of interest do we know who those 4 or 5 people work for (or the rest of 
> the proposed PMC members)? It’s good to have a PMC consisting of people from 
> different companies.

They are from different companies:
 - Cloud Wise
 - terminus.io
 - tetrate.io
 - Daocloud
 - Ke Finance
 - Huawei
 - Tingyun
 - Cianiao
 - Yonghui super market
 - VBill Payment Co.

And I don't see more than two PPMC from the same company.

regards,
Mick

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans (incubating) parent 1

[???? Sheng Wu]

+1 binding


Checked
1. name includes INCUBATING
2. sha512 exists and checked
3. asc exists and checked
4. source LICENSE, NOTICE and DISCLAIMER exist
5. pom with Apache header


Also, I spend some time to guess out where[1] the KEY file is. :)
I suggest you could put the link in vote ml, thanks.


Hi Eric
You have enough binding votes now. Sorry for haven't helped you on vote 
earlier. Have a good time.




[1] https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/netbeans/KEYS


--
Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




-- Original --
From:  "mck";
Date:  Fri, Mar 1, 2019 11:41 AM
To:  "general";

Subject:  Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans (incubating) parent 1




> Please vote accordingly:
> 
>  
> 
> [ ] +1 approve
> 
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> 
> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason


+1


Hi Eric,
 I'm a long time user of NetBeans, my involvement the past decade has been 
minimal, but I am very excited about seeing Apache NetBeans.

I was keen to try out the little tool that the Zipkin podling community wrote 
to help verify the basics on staged releases: 
https://github.com/openzipkin-contrib/apache-release-verification

Unfortunately the tool isn't 100% for use on different projects due to little 
things like folder layouts and naming.

But in the process a few things were unclear to me are:
 - what's the git sha to this release?
 - what's the gpg key used to sign?

I had to go hunt and figure them out.
I have no idea if the Incubator wishes/enforces that this information is 
provided in the vote email? 

regards,
Mick

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Re: [website] Do we still need the Clutch report?

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Bertrand - 

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bertrand,
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was looking at streamlining the incubator.a.o website generation,
>> currently the build script at [1] calls "python3 clutch.py" to build
>> the http://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ page.
>> 
>> Is that information still useful considering how our workflows have
>> evolved over time?
> 
> Let’s more fully investigate the clutch process … I think clutch.py is using 
> a database created by clutch…

Clutch must be run. A lot depends on it. Particularly reporting, but also 
podling status and history.

It might be more useful looking at which columns of data are still useful on 
the clutch page and also follow up by converting clutch and project main pages 
to the new jBake format.

Here is what is on incubator.apache.org/clutch: 


We can drop the Sponsor column - it is always Incubator.

A: startDate
B: elapsedDays - <3 <12 <18 <24 >24 months
Should we adjust the color thresholds? <4 <12 <24 <36 >36 months I 
think are more reflective of concerns.

C: reportingMonthly (current report: February2019 )
D: reportingGroup - in which set of months do they report:
group-1=Jan,Apr,Jul,Oct group-2=Feb,May,Aug,Nov group-3=Mar,Jun,Sep,Dec
E: hasReportingGroup - did podling remember to choose a group
Combine C, D, and E into one column?

F: hasStatusEntry in the main "Currently in incubation" table (i.e. 
i.a.o/projects generated from content/podlings.xml)
G: statusUpdateDate - the status page was last updated
H: statusAge - days since the SVN status page was last updated - <2 <4 <9 >9 
months
I: statusUpdateCounts - number of commits to status file in the previous 2,4,9 
months (cumulative)
What we do with these depends on how we address the future of the 
status xml and yml.

J: numberCommitters - accounts have been established, total number to date
K: numberCommittersNew - new committers added since establishment (gathered 
from each project's Status page "News" section)
J is always a '-' and it looks like few podlings update News in status.
Idea - Update to be J: initial size of committers list and K: (current 
size - initial size.)

L: hasSvn - Subversion repository is created
Only two podlings have svn - we need to update to reflect the status of 
gitbox OR svn.

M: hasTracker - has an Issue Tracker
N: hasMailListDev - has dev mail list and archives
O: hasMailListCommits - has commits mail list and archives
P: hasWebSite
These are important.

Q: hasDistributionArea - has w.a.o/dist/incubator/... area (not necessarily yet 
a release)
R: hasKeys - has a PGP "KEYS" file in their distribution area
S: hasRelease - has a release in their distribution area
These are important too.

> 
>> 
>> Whimsy provides lots of useful information under
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ which is generated
>> automatically from LDAP AFAIK, so more reliable (hopefully not derived
>> from clutch data, we should verify that) and maybe sufficient.
> 
> AFAIK there is some code in Whimsy to make sure that status in 
> content/projects/*.xml is kept in sync.
> 
>> 
>> I also think we should eliminate the XML files under
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/
>> if the relevant data is in LDAP, to eliminate data duplication, or at
>> least drastically simplify them, but that's another story.
> 
> The files under content/projects in xml are the complete detailed status of 
> every podling that is or has been through the Incubator. Eliminating these 
> files is therefore problematic. There is useful information in there that 
> goes away with a TLP LDAP or when LDAP goes away with retirement. Also these 
> xml files do define the podling status page.
> 
> Whimsy also uses yml files under content/podlings/ to document some of the 
> same information that is in the xml. I think that this better conforms with 
> our current workflows. I think that the data here should be made to override 
> and replace the xml files somehow.
> 
> The migration of the Incubator website to jBake and Git is definitely 
> incomplete.
> 
> Important pages still under the old style.
> 
> https://incubator.apache.org/projects/ 
> 
> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ 
> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ 
> 
> 
> Missing pages “lost in migration":
> 
> https://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html 
> 
> https://incubator.apache.org/history 
> 
> I’ve evaluated ^/incubator/public/trunk/content
> Moving onto ^/incubator/public/trunk and clutch

I’ve done the README.txt for trunk. I’m checking in the two.

Justin - it would be ideal to move th

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed 
>> up or autocorrected.
>> 
>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
>> Establish 
>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>> 
>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.

Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to see. 
Then Daniel wrote what he did.

OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … 
more Jedi mind tricks.

Regards,
Dave

>> 
>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 The ticket is now open: 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thank you.
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> What language should I use?
>> 
>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>> .
>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan 
>> Kenobi"
>> .
>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
 wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
> waters over there.
 
 When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up 
> or autocorrected.
> 
> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
> Establish 
> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> 
> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The ticket is now open: 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 Perfect, thank you.
 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> What language should I use?
> 
> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> .
> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan 
> Kenobi"
> .
> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
 I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
 waters over there.
>>> 
>>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
>>> .
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up 
or autocorrected.

PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
Establish whether 
"Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name

Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?

Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.

Regards,
Dave

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> The ticket is now open: 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
 
 Thanks.
 
> What language should I use?
 
 The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
 .
 "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
 .
 with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Daniel
 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
>>> waters over there.
>> 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pinot (incubating) 0.1.0 RC0

[Seunghyun Lee]

@Mohammad

I really appreciate for the vote :) I have some questions in regarding to
your suggestions.

1. We thought of removing binary LICENSE/NOTICE from the source release.
However, there's one side effect that people cannot build a completely
valid binary tarball out of the released source code (because it's missing
binary LICENSE/NOTICE files). Spark and Flink project seemed to have the
similar issue and they went with different approach. Spark removed binary
LICENSE/NOTICE while Flink project includes the binary LICENSE/NOTICE files
for the source code release. We preferred the latter approach (if it's not
violating Apache terms) because it allows users to build the valid binary
release tarball out of the released source code. (reference - spark issue:
https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/22840)

How do you think on this? I discussed with one of our mentors and he was
fine with including binary LICENSE/NOTICE file to a source code release.

2. Can you provide me some example projects that are including
version/commitid/tag for each listed dependencies as a reference? Also, are
you referring to a binary LICENSE file or a source code LICENSE file? If
for binary, I can get the versions for each dependency easily but tracking
commitId + tag for each dependency(100+) will not be a simple task and I'm
not sure if those information is required. Can you comment on this a bit
more in detail? We can definitely address the issue for the next release.

3. I guess that the archives that you mention are probably sample data that
are used for unit/integration tests. If we removed those archives, tests
will probably fail. If possible, can you list some of archives that you
have the concern with? We will evaluate if those archives are necessary to
be include in the source release.

Thank you!

Best,
Seunghyun

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:57 AM Mohammad Asif Siddiqui <
asifdxtr...@apache.org> wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
> Checks Done:
> - Hashes and signature is good
> - Incubating in name
> - LICENSE , NOTICE and DISCLAIMER exist
> - Archive matching git tag
> - Compiled from source and ran demos
>
> Suggestion :
> - Binary LICENSE/NOTICE can be skipped for source release
> - LICENSE file should have version/commitid/tag for each listed
> dependencies
> - Some archives for test purpose are present in the source release which
> could be skipped if possible
>
> Regards
> Asif
>
> On 2019/02/28 18:45:38, Seunghyun Lee  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is a call for vote to the release Apache Pinot (incubating) version
> > 0.1.0.
> >
> > Apache Pinot (incubating) is a distributed columnar storage engine that
> can
> > ingest
> > data in realtime and serve analytical queries at low latency.
> >
> > Pinot community has voted and approved this release.
> >
> > Vote thread:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f136d3eaa9dfbab6e17b262a5542813099f2b128465d9d17ef69defd@%3Cdev.pinot.apache.org%3E
> >
> > Result thread:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ce58034678349f82afc5f8ed2edd435875301183554f964778dffb7a@%3Cdev.pinot.apache.org%3E
> >
> > The release candidate:
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/pinot/apache-pinot-incubating-0.1.0-rc0
> >
> > Git tag for this release:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pinot/tree/release-0.1.0-rc0
> >
> > Git hash for this release:
> > bbf29dc6e0f23383948f0db66565ebbdf383dd0d
> >
> > The artifacts have been signed with key: 44BA03AD164D961B, which can be
> > found in the following KEYS file.
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/pinot/KEYS
> >
> > Release notes:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pinot/releases/tag/release-0.1.0-rc0
> >
> > Staging repository:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachepinot-1002
> >
> > Documentation on verifying a release candidate:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PINOT/Validating+a+release+candidate
> >
> >
> > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> > votes are reached.
> >
> > Please vote accordingly,
> >
> > [ ] +1 approve
> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Apache Pinot (incubating) team
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

It is down to four people missing from the PPMC list. I don’t view this as a 
problem. Clearly there are small operational issues. (Mick - SHOULD is used as 
specifications and really means MUST. They really MUST because if not that 
means that these PMC members can’t see discussion and votes on new committers 
and PMC members. They also miss any important security and branding issues that 
need PMC action. It’s important, but I think that there are enough PPMC members 
available that lack of response is not a concern.

As I understand things from a conversation I had in Shenzhen is that SkyWalking 
was always multiple developers not associated with any particular vendors.

May I see a link to the planned Graduation Resolution?

Regards,
Dave

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> I think the question is not "Is SkyWalking ready to graduate" but "Is the 
>> proposed PMC list accurate”.
> 
> Well the graduation was put off last time because the project was not 
> correctly recognising merit, and they have fixed that by voting more folks 
> but but if they are not active then I’m not sure what has been fixed. It 
> seems this could be a symptom of the same problem? But  I did also say 
> "Perhaps the roster needs to be adjusted in the proposal for it to be 
> accepted by the IPMC?”
> 
> Out of interest do we know who those 4 or 5 people work for (or the rest of 
> the proposed PMC members)? It’s good to have a PMC consisting of people from 
> different companies.
> 
> Thanks,
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[ANNOUNCE] Apache MXNet (incubating) 1.4.0 Release

[Piyush Ghai]

Hello all,

The Apache MXNet (incubating) Community announces the availability of
Apache MXNet (incubating) 1.4.0!

Release blog post:
https://blogs.apache.org/mxnet/entry/apache-mxnet-1-4-is1 

https://medium.com/apache-mxnet/apache-mxnet-1-4-0-is-here-a8b6ac0ea3a1 



Apache MXNet (incubating) is a deep learning framework designed for
both efficiency and flexibility. It allows you to mix symbolic and
imperative programming to maximize efficiency and productivity.

This release improves usability, performance, and interoperability.

A full list of the changes in this release can be found in the release
notes:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+1.4.0+Release+Notes
 



A Link to the Download is here:
*http://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/install/download.html 

>*

If you prefer to build from source and experiment with various
compile-time configuration options, use this link to get the
instructions:
http://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/install/index.html 


Or You can download and play with MXNet easily using one of the options
below:
  1. The Pip packages can be found here: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/mxnet 

  2. The Docker Images can be found here:
https://hub.docker.com/r/mxnet/python/ 

Links in Maven to the published Scala packages:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/releases/org/apache/mxnet/ 

https://repository.apache.org/#nexus-search;gav~org.apache.mxnet~~1.4.0~~ 



and to the experimental Clojure packages:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/releases/org/apache/mxnet/contrib/clojure/
 


The release tag used for the 1.4.0 release is:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/tree/1.4.0 


Some more MXNet Resources:
  1. Issues: https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/issues 

  2. Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET 



If you want to learn more about MXNet visit
http://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/ 

Finally, you are welcome to join and also invite your friends to the
dynamic and growing MXNet community by subscribing to
d...@mxnet.incubator.apache.org 


Acknowledgments:
We would like to thank everyone from the Apache MXNet community for their 
contributions to the 1.4.0 release.


Thanks!
Apache MXNet (incubating) Team
___

DISCLAIMER:
Apache MXNet (incubating) is an effort undergoing incubation at The
Apache Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the name of Apache
Incubator PMC. Incubation is required of all newly accepted
projects until a further review indicates that the
infrastructure, communications, and decision-making process have
stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF
projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection
of the completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate
that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I think the question is not "Is SkyWalking ready to graduate" but "Is the 
> proposed PMC list accurate”.

Well the graduation was put off last time because the project was not correctly 
recognising merit, and they have fixed that by voting more folks but but if 
they are not active then I’m not sure what has been fixed. It seems this could 
be a symptom of the same problem? But  I did also say "Perhaps the roster needs 
to be adjusted in the proposal for it to be accepted by the IPMC?”

Out of interest do we know who those 4 or 5 people work for (or the rest of the 
proposed PMC members)? It’s good to have a PMC consisting of people from 
different companies.

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Craig Russell]

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:12 AM, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
>> The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> 
> This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
>> It also means that the person is aware that the private@ list is
>> something they need to follow.
> 
As noted else-thread, there is an alternate method to subscribing to the email 
lists, by sending email to 
private-subscribe-EMAIL.ADDRESS=domain@skywalking.apache.org

> Not getting any response at all is not an indication of whether the list 
> exist of not, unfortunately.
> 
> Anyway… to the thread's discussion: every PPMC received an invitation (per 
> Apache template) that requested subscription to both dev and private ML. 
> Reading the ASF guidelines here: 
> https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#communication ; I 
> interpret it as they SHOULD be subscribed rather than MUST, and I'm curious 
> as to whether how many of the TLPs are actually enforcing this among their 
> pmc, if any. It's an interesting discussion… but I'm not entirely convinced 
> it's an accurate shortcoming to whether the podling is ready for graduation 
> or not. 

I think the question is not "Is SkyWalking ready to graduate" but "Is the 
proposed PMC list accurate".

The PMC members are responsible for governing the TLP and as such need to be 
familiar with what is expected of them. Governance activities are conducted on 
the PPMC private list. If a PPMC member has not participated in any governance 
activities during incubation, it's unclear that they belong on the PMC. 

Reviewing the last several months of private@skywalking list, most of the 
discussion of new committers has had only four or five participants, who are 
clearly involved in governance of the project. 

Regards,

Craig
> 
> regards,
> Mick
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Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:53, sebb  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:45, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi John
> >
> > I just try on that page, don't find skywalking-private in `Subscribe` or 
> > `UnSubscribe` lists.
> > I am already PPMC, no skywalking, zipkin, shardingsphere private, which I 
> > am already there.
> > But I could find incubator-private, since I am IPMC.
> >
> > Do I miss anything?
>
> The page description only refers to PMC subscriptions in the context
> of private lists.
>
> I suspect it does not automatically handle PPMC (podling) subscriptions yet.

Should work now.

> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "John D. Ament";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:37 PM
> > To:  "general";
> > Cc:  "dev"; "sebb";
> > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
> > You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
> > subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.
> >
> > At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Sebb
> > >
> > >
> > > I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
> > > This is my reply.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> > >
> > > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> > > success.
> > >
> > > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> > >
> > > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> > >
> > > > Who gets nothing?
> > >
> > > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> > > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> > > to subscriber, right?
> > > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --
> > > From:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> > > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> > > To:  "sebb";
> > >
> > > Subject:  Re:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> > > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> > >
> > >
> > > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> > > success.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Who gets nothing?
> > >
> > >
> > > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> > > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> > > to subscriber, right?
> > > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --
> > > From:  "sebb";
> > > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> > > To:  "general";
> > > Cc:  "dev";
> > > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> > > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Sebb
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just sent confirm
> > > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
> > > outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
> > > > Still fail, 6 times just today
> > >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> > >
> > > By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> > > contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> > > moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
> > >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
> > > oracle...@gmail.com)
> > > > Get nothing.
> > >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sheng Wu
> > > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- Original --
> >

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

Thx. We'll wait for the decision.

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> The ticket is now open: 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect, thank you.
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
 I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
 What language should I use?
>>> 
>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>> .
>>>  "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>> .
>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
>> waters over there.
> 
> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
> .
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Write access to Incubator Wiki

[leerho]

Hi,

May I get write access to wiki? My wiki name is *Lee Rhodes*

Project Proposal: Apache DataSketches

Kind Regards,
Lee Rhodes

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Re: [website] Do we still need the Clutch report?

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Bertrand,

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was looking at streamlining the incubator.a.o website generation,
> currently the build script at [1] calls "python3 clutch.py" to build
> the http://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ page.
> 
> Is that information still useful considering how our workflows have
> evolved over time?

Let’s more fully investigate the clutch process … I think clutch.py is using a 
database created by clutch...

> 
> Whimsy provides lots of useful information under
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ which is generated
> automatically from LDAP AFAIK, so more reliable (hopefully not derived
> from clutch data, we should verify that) and maybe sufficient.

AFAIK there is some code in Whimsy to make sure that status in 
content/projects/*.xml is kept in sync.

> 
> I also think we should eliminate the XML files under
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/
> if the relevant data is in LDAP, to eliminate data duplication, or at
> least drastically simplify them, but that's another story.

The files under content/projects in xml are the complete detailed status of 
every podling that is or has been through the Incubator. Eliminating these 
files is therefore problematic. There is useful information in there that goes 
away with a TLP LDAP or when LDAP goes away with retirement. Also these xml 
files do define the podling status page.

Whimsy also uses yml files under content/podlings/ to document some of the same 
information that is in the xml. I think that this better conforms with our 
current workflows. I think that the data here should be made to override and 
replace the xml files somehow.

The migration of the Incubator website to jBake and Git is definitely 
incomplete.

Important pages still under the old style.

https://incubator.apache.org/projects/ 
https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ 
https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ 


Missing pages “lost in migration":

https://incubator.apache.org/facilities.html 

https://incubator.apache.org/history 

I’ve evaluated ^/incubator/public/trunk/content
Moving onto ^/incubator/public/trunk and clutch

Regards,
Dave

> 
> -Bertrand
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Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[Craig Russell]

There is an alternate way to subscribe if your mail client or service changes 
your from-address.

Send mail directly to private-subscribe-1151262684=qq@skywalking.apache.org 
from any address.

This works for any mail subscription. 

Craig

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 7:26 AM, sebb  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:49, sebb  > wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sebb
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just sent confirm 
>>> `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
>>>  requested by Yao Wang again.
>>> Still fail, 6 times just today
>> 
>> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>> 
>> By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
>> contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
>> moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>> 
>> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> 
> Your mail program seems to be adding some text to the reply address, e.g.
> 
> To: "=?gb18030?B?...etc..?="  >
> 
> (You can see that in the second email you forwarded to me)
> 
> I think that is what is causing ezmlm to reject your emails.
> 
> Please ensure you copy the reply address exactly as provided in the
> email from ezmlm.
> Or, in the above case, don't add extra characters to the address; it should 
> be:
> 
> To: private-l...@skywalking.apache.org 
> 
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and 
>>> Kai(oracle...@gmail.com)
>>> Get nothing.
>> 
>> Who gets nothing?
>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sheng Wu
>>> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Original --
>>> From:  "wang yao";
>>> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
>>> To:  
>>> "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org";
>>> 
>>> Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
>>> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok, trying to subscribing again.
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Yao Wang
>>> Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
>>> Twitter, @tinyallen16
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 发件人: 吴晟 Sheng Wu 
>>> 发送时间: 2019年3月4日 19:26
>>> 收件人: Incubator General; general; dev
>>> 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
>>> SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>>> 
>>> Hi Yao Wang
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
>>> whether we could pass this time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sebb
>>> Appreciate very much.
>>> 
>>> Sheng Wu
>>> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>>> 
>>> From Wu Sheng 's phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Original --
>>> From: sebb 
>>> Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
>>> To: general 
>>> Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
>>> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
 
 
> 
> The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> 
 
 This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
>>> 
>>> I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
>>> subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
>>> 
>>> I have added myself as a moderator to private@
>>> 
>>> Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?
>>> 
>>> S.
>>> 
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> 
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Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 16:16, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> I re-tried several times. For foxmail web tool, I  am using, only reply 
> directly works. But the link always fail. But just for some ones
>
>
> Strange mail web tool.

Aren't they all?

>
> I am happy this resolved. Thanks for helping. Hope the other two could find 
> out why... Tomorrow.
>

I just noticed that the reason the private-list request example you
sent me failed is that you sent it from your foxmail account.
However the foxmail account is not a moderator.

Moderation confirmation replies include a cookie and will work from
any email, but
requests that you initiate have to come from the moderation address,
which in your case is your apache account.

>
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>
> From Wu Sheng 's phone.
>
>
> -- 原始邮件 --
> 发件人: sebb 
> 发送时间: 2019年3月5日 00:02
> 收件人: general , dev 
> 主题: 回复：答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
> SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:53, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: 
> > > address.
> >
> >
> > That is really hard to know.
>
> Not really, you just have to look at the headers of the mail.
>
> These may be available in their mail client in the Sent folder; GMail
> seems to show them.
>
> Otherwise, if they copy themselves (*) or someone else on the mail,
> they can look at the raw email to see what was sent.
> (*) This won't work with GMail as it hides duplicates - in this case
> the incoming mail.
>
> >
> > Dongxue and Kai
> >
> >
> > Could you try to type the private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org manually, 
> > and try again? Tomorrow.
> > Also,
> > You could try John's option, https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe 
> > . Just not work to me.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "sebb";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:47 PM
> > To:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> > Cc:  "dev"; 
> > "general";
> > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:26, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sebb
> > >
> > > I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there. 
> > > This is my reply.
> > >
> > > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> > >
> > > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, 
> > > success.
> > >
> > > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> > >
> > > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> > Thanks
> > I replied already in the thread.
> > Your emailer is adding some extra text to the To: address which I
> > think is confusing ezmlm.
> >
> > > > Who gets nothing?
> > >
> > > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail 
> > > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail 
> > > to subscriber, right?
> > > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> > Yes, there should be a confirmation mail.
> > I have so far only seen mod requests for Allen.Wang
> >
> > Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: address.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --
> > > From:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> > > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> > > To:  "sebb";
> > > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> > > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> > >
> > > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> > >
> > >
> > > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, 
> > > success.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Who gets nothing?
> > >
> > >
> > > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail 
> > > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail 
> > > to subscriber, right?
> > > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --
> > > From:  "sebb";
> > > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> > > To:  "general";
> > > Cc:  "dev";
> > > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (R

[website] Do we still need the Clutch report?

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

I was looking at streamlining the incubator.a.o website generation,
currently the build script at [1] calls "python3 clutch.py" to build
the http://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ page.

Is that information still useful considering how our workflows have
evolved over time?

Whimsy provides lots of useful information under
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/ which is generated
automatically from LDAP AFAIK, so more reliable (hopefully not derived
from clutch data, we should verify that) and maybe sufficient.

I also think we should eliminate the XML files under
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/
if the relevant data is in LDAP, to eliminate data duplication, or at
least drastically simplify them, but that's another story.

-Bertrand

[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator/blob/master/build_site.sh

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Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:53, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> > Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: address.
>
>
> That is really hard to know.

Not really, you just have to look at the headers of the mail.

These may be available in their mail client in the Sent folder; GMail
seems to show them.

Otherwise, if they copy themselves (*) or someone else on the mail,
they can look at the raw email to see what was sent.
(*) This won't work with GMail as it hides duplicates - in this case
the incoming mail.

>
> Dongxue and Kai
>
>
> Could you try to type the private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org manually, 
> and try again? Tomorrow.
> Also,
> You could try John's option, https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe . 
> Just not work to me.
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "sebb";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:47 PM
> To:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> Cc:  "dev"; 
> "general";
> Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:26, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> > I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there. This 
> > is my reply.
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, 
> > success.
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
> Thanks
> I replied already in the thread.
> Your emailer is adding some extra text to the To: address which I
> think is confusing ezmlm.
>
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
> > private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail 
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
> Yes, there should be a confirmation mail.
> I have so far only seen mod requests for Allen.Wang
>
> Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: address.
>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> > To:  "sebb";
> > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, 
> > success.
> >
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
> > private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail 
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "sebb";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> > To:  "general";
> > Cc:  "dev";
> > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sebb
> > >
> > >
> > > I just sent confirm 
> > > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
> > >  requested by Yao Wang again.
> > > Still fail, 6 times just today
> >
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> > contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> > moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
> >
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > >
> > > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and 
> > > Kai(oracle...@gmail.com)
> > > Get nothing.
> >
> > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --
> > > From:  "wang yao";
> > > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > > To:  
> > > "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org";
> > >
> > > Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> > > Apache SkyW

??????????: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[???? Sheng Wu]

I re-tried several times. For foxmail web tool, I  am using, only reply 
directly works. But the link always fail. But just for some ones 


Strange mail web tool.


I am happy this resolved. Thanks for helping. Hope the other two could find out 
why... Tomorrow.



Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin

From Wu Sheng 's phone.


--  --
??: sebb 
: 2019??3??5?? 00:02
??: general , dev 
: ??: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:53,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> > Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: address.
>
>
> That is really hard to know.

Not really, you just have to look at the headers of the mail.

These may be available in their mail client in the Sent folder; GMail
seems to show them.

Otherwise, if they copy themselves (*) or someone else on the mail,
they can look at the raw email to see what was sent.
(*) This won't work with GMail as it hides duplicates - in this case
the incoming mail.

>
> Dongxue and Kai
>
>
> Could you try to type the private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org manually, 
> and try again? Tomorrow.
> Also,
> You could try John's option, https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe . 
> Just not work to me.
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "sebb";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:47 PM
> To:  " Sheng Wu";
> Cc:  "dev"; 
> "general";
> Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:26,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> > I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there. This 
> > is my reply.
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, 
> > success.
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
> Thanks
> I replied already in the thread.
> Your emailer is adding some extra text to the To: address which I
> think is confusing ezmlm.
>
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
> > private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail 
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
> Yes, there should be a confirmation mail.
> I have so far only seen mod requests for Allen.Wang
>
> Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: address.
>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  " Sheng Wu";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> > To:  "sebb";
> > Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, 
> > success.
> >
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
> > private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail 
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "sebb";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> > To:  "general";
> > Cc:  "dev";
> > Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sebb
> > >
> > >
> > > I just sent confirm 
> > > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
> > >  requested by Yao Wang again.
> > > Still fail, 6 times just today
> >
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> > contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> > moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
> >
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please

Re: Changes to Website and Marking As Obsolete SVN Version of Incubator Website

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi Dave,

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 7:37 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> ...I’ve been reviewing the incubator’s svn repository. In order to avoid 
> confusion I am going to
> add README.txt files to directories (eg. [1]) which are now obsolete, but not 
> obviously so

How about moving them under an OBSOLETE folder instead?

That would make things clearer - just make sure the website build at
https://builds.apache.org/view/H-L/view/Incubator/job/Incubator%20Site/
still works after that.

-Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP (take2)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 11:32 PM Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> ...If this project description is to be updated in the graduation proposal, 
> does it also need to be updated
> in the podling status file? and anywhere else?...

No, it's fine to have a slightly different description in the
graduation resolution.

It's best for the resolution's description to be reasonably broad -
projects evolve, and if that description is too specific it might
become "wrong" over time.

With this in mind I like sebb's proposal:

> related to application performance monitoring (aka a distributed tracing 
> system)

-Bertrand

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Re: ????: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[???? Sheng Wu]

Yes, I guess so.


--
Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




-- Original --
From:  "sebb";
Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:53 PM
To:  " Sheng Wu";
Cc:  "John D. Ament"; 
"general"; 
Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:45,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi John
>
> I just try on that page, don't find skywalking-private in `Subscribe` or 
> `UnSubscribe` lists.
> I am already PPMC, no skywalking, zipkin, shardingsphere private, which I am 
> already there.
> But I could find incubator-private, since I am IPMC.
>
> Do I miss anything?

The page description only refers to PMC subscriptions in the context
of private lists.

I suspect it does not automatically handle PPMC (podling) subscriptions yet.

> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "John D. Ament";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:37 PM
> To:  "general";
> Cc:  "dev"; "sebb";
> Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
> Hi
>
> There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
> You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
> subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.
>
> At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM  Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
> > This is my reply.
> >
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> > success.
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  " Sheng Wu";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> > To:  "sebb";
> >
> > Subject:  Re:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> > success.
> >
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "sebb";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> > To:  "general";
> > Cc:  "dev";
> > Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sebb
> > >
> > >
> > > I just sent confirm
> > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
> > outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
> > > Still fail, 6 times just today
> >
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> > contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> > moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
> >
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > >
> > > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
> > oracle...@gmail.com)
> > > Get nothing.
> >
> > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --

Re: ????: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[???? Sheng Wu]

> Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: address.


That is really hard to know.


Dongxue and Kai


Could you try to type the private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org manually, and 
try again? Tomorrow.
Also,
You could try John's option, https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe . 
Just not work to me.


--
Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




-- Original --
From:  "sebb";
Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:47 PM
To:  " Sheng Wu";
Cc:  "dev"; 
"general"; 
Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:26,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb
>
> I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there. This 
> is my reply.
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, success.
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.

Thanks
I replied already in the thread.
Your emailer is adding some extra text to the To: address which I
think is confusing ezmlm.

> > Who gets nothing?
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
> private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail to 
> subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.

Yes, there should be a confirmation mail.
I have so far only seen mod requests for Allen.Wang

Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: address.

>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  " Sheng Wu";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> To:  "sebb";
> Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, success.
>
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
> private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail to 
> subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "sebb";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> To:  "general";
> Cc:  "dev";
> Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] 
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just sent confirm 
> > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
> >  requested by Yao Wang again.
> > Still fail, 6 times just today
>
> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>
> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> >
> > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and 
> > Kai(oracle...@gmail.com)
> > Get nothing.
>
> Who gets nothing?
>
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "wang yao";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > To:  
> > "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org";
> >
> > Subject:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
> >
> > ??
> > Yao Wang
> > Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> > Twitter, @tinyallen16
> >
> > 
> > ??:  Sheng Wu 
> > : 2019??3??4?? 19:26
> > ??: Incubator General; general; dev
> > : Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
> > SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > Hi Yao Wang
> >
> >
> > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
> > whether we could pass this time.
> >
> >
> > Sebb
> > Appreciate very much.
> >
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >
> > From Wu Sheng 's phon

Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:45, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi John
>
> I just try on that page, don't find skywalking-private in `Subscribe` or 
> `UnSubscribe` lists.
> I am already PPMC, no skywalking, zipkin, shardingsphere private, which I am 
> already there.
> But I could find incubator-private, since I am IPMC.
>
> Do I miss anything?

The page description only refers to PMC subscriptions in the context
of private lists.

I suspect it does not automatically handle PPMC (podling) subscriptions yet.

> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "John D. Ament";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:37 PM
> To:  "general";
> Cc:  "dev"; "sebb";
> Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
> Hi
>
> There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
> You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
> https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
> subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.
>
> At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
> > This is my reply.
> >
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> > success.
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> > To:  "sebb";
> >
> > Subject:  Re:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> >
> > Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> > success.
> >
> >
> > > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> >
> > Sent two examples to your personal mail.
> >
> >
> > > Who gets nothing?
> >
> >
> > They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> > to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> > But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> > to subscriber, right?
> > or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "sebb";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> > To:  "general";
> > Cc:  "dev";
> > Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> > Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sebb
> > >
> > >
> > > I just sent confirm
> > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
> > outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
> > > Still fail, 6 times just today
> >
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
> >
> > By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> > contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> > moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
> >
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
> >
> > >
> > > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
> > oracle...@gmail.com)
> > > Get nothing.
> >
> > Who gets nothing?
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sheng Wu
> > > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original --
> > > From:  "wang yao";
> > > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > > To:  "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org
> > ";
> > >
> > > Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
> > >
> > > —
> > > Yao Wang
> > > Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> > > Twitter, @tinyall

Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 15:26, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb
>
> I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there. This 
> is my reply.
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, success.
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.

Thanks
I replied already in the thread.
Your emailer is adding some extra text to the To: address which I
think is confusing ezmlm.

> > Who gets nothing?
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
> private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail to 
> subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.

Yes, there should be a confirmation mail.
I have so far only seen mod requests for Allen.Wang

Maybe their mailers are also adding spurious characters to the To: address.

>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> To:  "sebb";
> Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, success.
>
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
> private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail to 
> subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "sebb";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> To:  "general";
> Cc:  "dev";
> Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just sent confirm 
> > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
> >  requested by Yao Wang again.
> > Still fail, 6 times just today
>
> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>
> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> >
> > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and 
> > Kai(oracle...@gmail.com)
> > Get nothing.
>
> Who gets nothing?
>
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "wang yao";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > To:  
> > "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org";
> >
> > Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
> >
> > —
> > Yao Wang
> > Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> > Twitter, @tinyallen16
> >
> > 
> > 发件人: 吴晟 Sheng Wu 
> > 发送时间: 2019年3月4日 19:26
> > 收件人: Incubator General; general; dev
> > 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
> > SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > Hi Yao Wang
> >
> >
> > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
> > whether we could pass this time.
> >
> >
> > Sebb
> > Appreciate very much.
> >
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >
> > From Wu Sheng 's phone.
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From: sebb 
> > Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> > To: general 
> > Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
> >
> > I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> > subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
> >
> > I have added myself as a moderator to private@
> >
> > Perhaps one of the people 

Re: ????: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[???? Sheng Wu]

Hi John


I just try on that page, don't find skywalking-private in `Subscribe` or 
`UnSubscribe` lists.
I am already PPMC, no skywalking, zipkin, shardingsphere private, which I am 
already there.
But I could find incubator-private, since I am IPMC.


Do I miss anything?



--
Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




-- Original --
From:  "John D. Ament";
Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:37 PM
To:  "general";
Cc:  "dev"; "sebb"; 
Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



Hi

There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.

At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.

John

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM  Sheng Wu  wrote:

> Hi Sebb
>
>
> I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
> This is my reply.
>
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> success.
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> to subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  " Sheng Wu";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> To:  "sebb";
>
> Subject:  Re:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> success.
>
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> to subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "sebb";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> To:  "general";
> Cc:  "dev";
> Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just sent confirm
> `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
> outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
> > Still fail, 6 times just today
>
> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>
> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> >
> > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
> oracle...@gmail.com)
> > Get nothing.
>
> Who gets nothing?
>
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "wang yao";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > To:  "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org
> ";
> >
> > Subject:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
> >
> > ??
> > Yao Wang
> > Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> > Twitter, @tinyallen16
> >
> > 
> > ??:  Sheng Wu 
> > : 2019??3??4?? 19:26
> > ??: Incubator General; general; dev
> > : Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > Hi Yao Wang
> >
> >
> > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's
> see whether we could pass this time.
> >
> >
> > Sebb
> > Appreciate very much.
> >
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >
> > From Wu Sheng 's phon

Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[John D. Ament]

Hi

There is another option to try if the email subscription isn't working.
You can access the whimsy portal (login using your ASF username/password)
https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and from here you can
subscribe yourself to the private list if you're on the PPMC.

At least in theory this should work.  Feel free to reply if it doesn't.

John

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:

> Hi Sebb
>
>
> I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there.
> This is my reply.
>
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> success.
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> to subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "吴晟 Sheng Wu";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
> To:  "sebb";
>
> Subject:  Re:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> > I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
>
> Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some,
> success.
>
>
> > Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
>
> Sent two examples to your personal mail.
>
>
> > Who gets nothing?
>
>
> They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail
> to private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org.
> But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail
> to subscriber, right?
> or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.
>
>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "sebb";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
> To:  "general";
> Cc:  "dev";
> Subject:  Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS]
> Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just sent confirm
> `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=
> outlook@skywalking.apache.org` requested by Yao Wang again.
> > Still fail, 6 times just today
>
> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>
> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?
>
> >
> > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(
> oracle...@gmail.com)
> > Get nothing.
>
> Who gets nothing?
>
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "wang yao";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > To:  "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org
> ";
> >
> > Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
> >
> > —
> > Yao Wang
> > Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> > Twitter, @tinyallen16
> >
> > 
> > 发件人: 吴晟 Sheng Wu 
> > 发送时间: 2019年3月4日 19:26
> > 收件人: Incubator General; general; dev
> > 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > Hi Yao Wang
> >
> >
> > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's
> see whether we could pass this time.
> >
> >
> > Sebb
> > Appreciate very much.
> >
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >
> > From Wu Sheng 's phone.
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From: sebb 
> > Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> > To: general 
> > Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
> >
> > I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> > subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
> >
> > I have added myself 

Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:49, sebb  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebb
> >
> >
> > I just sent confirm 
> > `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
> >  requested by Yao Wang again.
> > Still fail, 6 times just today
>
> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.
>
> By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
> contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
> moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.
>
> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?

Your mail program seems to be adding some text to the reply address, e.g.

To: "=?gb18030?B?...etc..?=" 

(You can see that in the second email you forwarded to me)

I think that is what is causing ezmlm to reject your emails.

Please ensure you copy the reply address exactly as provided in the
email from ezmlm.
Or, in the above case, don't add extra characters to the address; it should be:

To: private-l...@skywalking.apache.org


> >
> > And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and 
> > Kai(oracle...@gmail.com)
> > Get nothing.
>
> Who gets nothing?
>
> >
> > --
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From:  "wang yao";
> > Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> > To:  
> > "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org";
> >
> > Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, trying to subscribing again.
> >
> > —
> > Yao Wang
> > Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> > Twitter, @tinyallen16
> >
> > 
> > 发件人: 吴晟 Sheng Wu 
> > 发送时间: 2019年3月4日 19:26
> > 收件人: Incubator General; general; dev
> > 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
> > SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> > Hi Yao Wang
> >
> >
> > Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
> > whether we could pass this time.
> >
> >
> > Sebb
> > Appreciate very much.
> >
> > Sheng Wu
> > Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> >
> > From Wu Sheng 's phone.
> >
> >
> > -- Original --
> > From: sebb 
> > Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> > To: general 
> > Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> > Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
> >
> > I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> > subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
> >
> > I have added myself as a moderator to private@
> >
> > Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

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Re: ????: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[???? Sheng Wu]

Hi Sebb


I just send mail in dev@skywalking, just realize you may be not there. This is 
my reply.


> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.

Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, success.

> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?

Sent two examples to your personal mail.

> Who gets nothing?

They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org. 
But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail to 
subscriber, right?
or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.






--
Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




-- Original --
From:  " Sheng Wu";
Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 11:21 PM
To:  "sebb";

Subject:  Re:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



> I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.


Have no clue why :(. Tried multiple times, always fail. But for some, success.


> Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?


Sent two examples to your personal mail.


> Who gets nothing?


They, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and Kai(oracle...@gmail.com), sent mail to 
private-subscr...@skywalking.apache.org. 
But nothing comes back to him, I remember, there should be a confirm mail to 
subscriber, right?
or moderators like me. I assume you don't get them too.


--
Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




-- Original --
From:  "sebb";
Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 10:49 PM
To:  "general";
Cc:  "dev"; 
Subject:  Re: : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11,  Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb
>
>
> I just sent confirm 
> `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
>  requested by Yao Wang again.
> Still fail, 6 times just today

I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.

By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.

Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?

>
> And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and 
> Kai(oracle...@gmail.com)
> Get nothing.

Who gets nothing?

>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "wang yao";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> To:  
> "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org";
>
> Subject:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> Ok, trying to subscribing again.
>
> ??
> Yao Wang
> Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> Twitter, @tinyallen16
>
> 
> ??:  Sheng Wu 
> : 2019??3??4?? 19:26
> ??: Incubator General; general; dev
> : Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
> SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
> Hi Yao Wang
>
>
> Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
> whether we could pass this time.
>
>
> Sebb
> Appreciate very much.
>
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>
> From Wu Sheng 's phone.
>
>
> -- Original --
> From: sebb 
> Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> To: general 
> Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > >
> >
> > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
>
> I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
>
> I have added myself as a moderator to private@
>
> Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?
>
> S.
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: 答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 12:11, 吴晟 Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb
>
>
> I just sent confirm 
> `private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
>  requested by Yao Wang again.
> Still fail, 6 times just today

I just replied, and it worked fine; they are shown as being on the list.

By the way, the email address such as the confirmation mail above
contains a cookie which means it can be sent by anyone (not just
moderators), so is best not shared on a public list.

Can you forward some example failure mails directly to me please?

>
> And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and 
> Kai(oracle...@gmail.com)
> Get nothing.

Who gets nothing?

>
> --
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original --
> From:  "wang yao";
> Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
> To:  
> "general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org";
>
> Subject:  答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> Ok, trying to subscribing again.
>
> —
> Yao Wang
> Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
> Twitter, @tinyallen16
>
> 
> 发件人: 吴晟 Sheng Wu 
> 发送时间: 2019年3月4日 19:26
> 收件人: Incubator General; general; dev
> 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
> SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
> Hi Yao Wang
>
>
> Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
> whether we could pass this time.
>
>
> Sebb
> Appreciate very much.
>
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>
> From Wu Sheng 's phone.
>
>
> -- Original --
> From: sebb 
> Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> To: general 
> Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > >
> >
> > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
>
> I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
>
> I have added myself as a moderator to private@
>
> Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?
>
> S.
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
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Write Access to Wiki

[Furkan KAMACI]

Hi,

May I get write access to wiki? My wiki name is *kamaci*

Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo (Incubating) 2.6.6 [RC2]

[Mohammad Asif Siddiqui]

+1 (binding)  
  
Checks Done:  
- Hashes and Signature is good  
- Archive matching the Git tag  
- Incubating in name  
- LICENSE, DISCLAIMER, NOTICE exist  
- ASF headers present in relevant files  
- Compiled code from source  
  
Regards  
Asif 

On 2019/03/04 11:34:59, Minxuan Zhuang  wrote: 
> Hello Incubator Community,
> 
> The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
> Apache Dubbo (Incubating) version 2.6.6.
> 
> We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> incubator release.
> 
> Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
> RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
> interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
> automatic service registration & discovery.
> 
> Dubbo community vote and result thread:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c1cff6eb1ec9ce2877a38a16145cf41a6ab3f2a6989a0f276da2226a@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> 
> The release candidates (RC2):
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/2.6.6
> 
> Git tag for the release (RC2):
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/tree/dubbo-2.6.6
> 
> Hash for the release tag:
> ba7f6f38c36675268ba64f21e97d02bda7a731dc
> 
> Release Notes:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/blob/dubbo-2.6.6/CHANGES.md
> 
> The artifacts have been signed with Key : DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
> found in the keys file:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS
> 
> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> votes are reached.
> 
> Please vote accordingly:
> 
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> 
> Thanks,
> The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team
> 

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pinot (incubating) 0.1.0 RC0

[Mohammad Asif Siddiqui]

+1 (binding)  
  
Checks Done:  
- Hashes and signature is good  
- Incubating in name  
- LICENSE , NOTICE and DISCLAIMER exist  
- Archive matching git tag  
- Compiled from source and ran demos
  
Suggestion :  
- Binary LICENSE/NOTICE can be skipped for source release  
- LICENSE file should have version/commitid/tag for each listed dependencies  
- Some archives for test purpose are present in the source release which could 
be skipped if possible  
  
Regards  
Asif

On 2019/02/28 18:45:38, Seunghyun Lee  wrote: 
> Hi all,
> 
> This is a call for vote to the release Apache Pinot (incubating) version
> 0.1.0.
> 
> Apache Pinot (incubating) is a distributed columnar storage engine that can
> ingest
> data in realtime and serve analytical queries at low latency.
> 
> Pinot community has voted and approved this release.
> 
> Vote thread:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f136d3eaa9dfbab6e17b262a5542813099f2b128465d9d17ef69defd@%3Cdev.pinot.apache.org%3E
> 
> Result thread:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ce58034678349f82afc5f8ed2edd435875301183554f964778dffb7a@%3Cdev.pinot.apache.org%3E
> 
> The release candidate:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/pinot/apache-pinot-incubating-0.1.0-rc0
> 
> Git tag for this release:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pinot/tree/release-0.1.0-rc0
> 
> Git hash for this release:
> bbf29dc6e0f23383948f0db66565ebbdf383dd0d
> 
> The artifacts have been signed with key: 44BA03AD164D961B, which can be
> found in the following KEYS file.
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/pinot/KEYS
> 
> Release notes:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pinot/releases/tag/release-0.1.0-rc0
> 
> Staging repository:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachepinot-1002
> 
> Documentation on verifying a release candidate:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PINOT/Validating+a+release+candidate
> 
> 
> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
> votes are reached.
> 
> Please vote accordingly,
> 
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> 
> Thanks,
> Apache Pinot (incubating) team
> 

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Re: ????: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[???? Sheng Wu]

Hi Sebb


I just sent confirm 
`private-tc.1551700751.baimfhedlialniklhnho-Allen.Wang.123=outlook@skywalking.apache.org`
 requested by Yao Wang again.
Still fail, 6 times just today.


And for other two PPMC members, Dongxue(1151262...@qq.com) and 
Kai(oracle...@gmail.com)
Get nothing.


--
Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
Twitter, wusheng1108


 




-- Original --
From:  "wang yao";
Date:  Mon, Mar 4, 2019 07:39 PM
To:  
"general";"d...@skywalking.apache.org";

Subject:  : Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate 
Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



Ok, trying to subscribing again.

??
Yao Wang
Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
Twitter, @tinyallen16


??:  Sheng Wu 
: 2019??3??4?? 19:26
??: Incubator General; general; dev
: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

Hi Yao Wang


Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
whether we could pass this time.


Sebb
Appreciate very much.

Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin

From Wu Sheng 's phone.


-- Original --
From: sebb 
Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
To: general 
Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
>
>
> >
> > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> >
>
> This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.

I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).

I have added myself as a moderator to private@

Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?

S.

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Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[王凯]

hi, Sebbaz:
I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.
My email is oracle...@gmail.com

IluckySi <1151262...@qq.com> 于2019年3月4日周一 下午7:41写道：

> hi, Sebbaz:
> I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.
>
>
> -- 原始邮件 --
> 发件人: "wu.sheng";
> 发送时间: 2019年3月4日(星期一) 晚上7:26
> 收件人: "Incubator General";"general"<
> general@incubator.apache.org>;"dev";
>
> 主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache
> SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> Hi Yao Wang
>
>
> Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see
> whether we could pass this time.
>
>
> Sebb
> Appreciate very much.
>
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin
>
> From Wu Sheng 's phone.
>
>
> -- Original --
> From: sebb 
> Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
> To: general 
> Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate
> Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> > >
> >
> > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.
>
> I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
> subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).
>
> I have added myself as a moderator to private@
>
> Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?
>
> S.
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org



-- 
致以崇高的敬意
王凯

?????? Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[IluckySi]

hi, Sebbaz:
I also can not subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org.


--  --
??: "wu.sheng";
: 2019??3??4??(??) 7:26
??: "Incubator 
General";"general";"dev";

: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



Hi Yao Wang


Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
whether we could pass this time.


Sebb
Appreciate very much.

Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin

From Wu Sheng 's phone.


-- Original --
From: sebb 
Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
To: general 
Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
>
>
> >
> > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> >
>
> This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.

I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).

I have added myself as a moderator to private@

Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?

S.

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答复: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[wang yao]

Ok, trying to subscribing again.

―
Yao Wang
Apache SkyWalking Committer, DaoCloud Labs
Twitter, @tinyallen16


发件人: 吴晟 Sheng Wu 
发送时间: 2019年3月4日 19:26
收件人: Incubator General; general; dev
主题: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

Hi Yao Wang


Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
whether we could pass this time.


Sebb
Appreciate very much.

Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin

From Wu Sheng 's phone.


-- Original --
From: sebb 
Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
To: general 
Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
>
>
> >
> > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> >
>
> This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.

I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).

I have added myself as a moderator to private@

Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?

S.

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[VOTE]: Release Apache Dubbo (Incubating) 2.6.6 [RC2]

[Minxuan Zhuang]

Hello Incubator Community,

The Apache Dubbo community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
Apache Dubbo (Incubating) version 2.6.6.

We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
incubator release.

Apache Dubbo™ (incubating) is a high-performance, java based, open source
RPC framework. Dubbo offers three key functionalities, which include
interface based remote call, fault tolerance & load balancing, and
automatic service registration & discovery.

Dubbo community vote and result thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c1cff6eb1ec9ce2877a38a16145cf41a6ab3f2a6989a0f276da2226a@%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E

The release candidates (RC2):
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/2.6.6

Git tag for the release (RC2):
https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/tree/dubbo-2.6.6

Hash for the release tag:
ba7f6f38c36675268ba64f21e97d02bda7a731dc

Release Notes:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/blob/dubbo-2.6.6/CHANGES.md

The artifacts have been signed with Key : DA2108479B0C1E71, which can be
found in the keys file:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/dubbo/KEYS

The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until necessary number of
votes are reached.

Please vote accordingly:

[ ] +1 approve
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove with the reason

Thanks,
The Apache Dubbo (Incubating) Team

Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[???? Sheng Wu]

Hi Yao Wang


Could you try to subscribe priv...@skywalking.apache.org again. Let's see 
whether we could pass this time.


Sebb
Appreciate very much.

Sheng Wu
Apache SkyWalking, ShardingSphere, Zipkin

From Wu Sheng 's phone.


-- Original --
From: sebb 
Date: Mon,Mar 4,2019 7:24 PM
To: general 
Subject: Re: Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache 
SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))



On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
>
>
> >
> > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> >
>
> This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.

I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).

I have added myself as a moderator to private@

Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?

S.

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Problems subscribing to SkyWalking (Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2))

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 11:12, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
>
>
> >
> > The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
> >
>
> This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.

I see another person has subscribed to private, so it is possible to
subscribe, but it may depend on the email provider (they used gmail).

I have added myself as a moderator to private@

Perhaps one of the people who failed earlier can try again?

S.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Mick Semb Wever]

> 
> The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.
>

This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made.


> It also means that the person is aware that the private@ list is
> something they need to follow.


Not getting any response at all is not an indication of whether the list exist 
of not, unfortunately.

Anyway… to the thread's discussion: every PPMC received an invitation (per 
Apache template) that requested subscription to both dev and private ML. 
Reading the ASF guidelines here: 
https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#communication ; I interpret 
it as they SHOULD be subscribed rather than MUST, and I'm curious as to whether 
how many of the TLPs are actually enforcing this among their pmc, if any. It's 
an interesting discussion… but I'm not entirely convinced it's an accurate 
shortcoming to whether the podling is ready for graduation or not. 

regards,
Mick

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 10:43, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
>
>
> > Whimsy currently shows 6 PPMC members who are not subscribed.
>
>
> Digging into this more…
>
> It looks there's also been troubles subscribing from China, or more accurate 
> receiving the confirm subscription emails from apache to chinese inboxes. 
> (And it wouldn't surprise me if after creating a new mail accounts and 
> getting things to work, folk would be forgetting then about 
> private@skywalking )
>
> There's some oddity like Yao Wang who is subscribed to dev ML but is not 
> getting the confirm email using the same email address for the private ML.
>
> For example:
> ```
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> :
> ezmlm-manage: fatal: Illegal or outdated moderator request (#5.7.1)
> ```

The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days.

> Indeed if I look through my inbox I see some of those missing from the 
> private ML having matching "CONFIRM subscribe to 
> priv...@skywalking.apache.org" emails. But they say they did not get those 
> emails.
>
> Folk are also just using the list.apache.org website, which is of no surprise 
> considering the above errors. We'll continue with this, as the Chinese 
> communities will need to have this sorted out, but we do believe that all 
> have attempted to subscribe.
>
> Is there a reason that people with @apache.org addresses have to manually 
> subscribe to these lists, if it's so mandatory?
>
> I would have thought this is something that should just then be automatic, 
> and then in this situation it's just the problem of ensuring the @apache.org 
> address is successfully forwarding emails.

People may wish to subscribe using a different email from the one to
which their ASF email is forwarded.

Subscription by the PPMC member achieves both the above:
- choice of email address
- validation that the address can get emails

It also means that the person is aware that the private@ list is
something they need to follow.

> regards,
> Mick
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Mick Semb Wever]

> Whimsy currently shows 6 PPMC members who are not subscribed.


Digging into this more…

It looks there's also been troubles subscribing from China, or more accurate 
receiving the confirm subscription emails from apache to chinese inboxes. (And 
it wouldn't surprise me if after creating a new mail accounts and getting 
things to work, folk would be forgetting then about private@skywalking )

There's some oddity like Yao Wang who is subscribed to dev ML but is not 
getting the confirm email using the same email address for the private ML.

For example:
```
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

:
ezmlm-manage: fatal: Illegal or outdated moderator request (#5.7.1)
```

Indeed if I look through my inbox I see some of those missing from the private 
ML having matching "CONFIRM subscribe to priv...@skywalking.apache.org" emails. 
But they say they did not get those emails. 

Folk are also just using the list.apache.org website, which is of no surprise 
considering the above errors. We'll continue with this, as the Chinese 
communities will need to have this sorted out, but we do believe that all have 
attempted to subscribe.

Is there a reason that people with @apache.org addresses have to manually 
subscribe to these lists, if it's so mandatory?
I would have thought this is something that should just then be automatic, and 
then in this situation it's just the problem of ensuring the @apache.org 
address is successfully forwarding emails.

regards,
Mick

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> Whimsy currently shows 6 PPMC members who are not subscribed.
> It was 8 when I checked earlier, but two subscriptions were added earlier 
> today.

It was 8 when I checked a few hours ago when I sent the email.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[sebb]

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 09:13, Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
>
>
> > I’m still not 100% sure that this project its ready to graduate.
> > Looking at the roster [1] only 1/2 the the proposed PMC members are
> > signed up to the projects private list. Some of the people suggested
> > have limited interaction on the mailing list(s)  and in a couple of
> > cases have never sent an email to them that I can find. How was this
> > PMC list determined and where was this discussed? Perhaps the roster
> > needs to be adjusted in the proposal for it to be accepted by the IPMC?
> > What do others think?
>
>
> Yeeaah, something that's not catching me off-guard  :-)
>
> I noticed this before we started this thread. We went through the roster and 
> most of those "missing" are subscribed with other (non-apache) addresses.

Whimsy currently shows 6 PPMC members who are not subscribed.
It was 8 when I checked earlier, but two subscriptions were added earlier today.

There are no unrecognised emails on the private@ list; all are
subscribed either with their ASF email or an email that is listed in
their LDAP record. So the list of PPMC members without subscriptions
is accurate in Whimsy.

Yesterday, 8 of the 13 PPMC members were not subscribed to the private
list. (The 4 mentors are subbed)

> Most of them are there and have been involved, also discussion on the private 
> ML is frowned upon except for votes on new committers/ppmc or security 
> issues, so more activity is present on dev and notifications. There are two 
> that have been quiet/inactive, but they remain trusted, so I would hesitate 
> to remove them (as per norm for ASF projects).
>
> regards,
> Mick
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I noticed this before we started this thread. We went through the roster and 
> most of those "missing" are subscribed with other (non-apache) addresses.

I checked their names and email address list in the proposal as well not just 
apache emails. Whimsey doesn’t report any other unknown addresses subscribed to 
that list so I really cannot see how that is possible.

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Mick Semb Wever]

> I’m still not 100% sure that this project its ready to graduate. 
> Looking at the roster [1] only 1/2 the the proposed PMC members are 
> signed up to the projects private list. Some of the people suggested 
> have limited interaction on the mailing list(s)  and in a couple of 
> cases have never sent an email to them that I can find. How was this 
> PMC list determined and where was this discussed? Perhaps the roster 
> needs to be adjusted in the proposal for it to be accepted by the IPMC? 
> What do others think?


Yeeaah, something that's not catching me off-guard  :-)

I noticed this before we started this thread. We went through the roster and 
most of those "missing" are subscribed with other (non-apache) addresses. Most 
of them are there and have been involved, also discussion on the private ML is 
frowned upon except for votes on new committers/ppmc or security issues, so 
more activity is present on dev and notifications. There are two that have been 
quiet/inactive, but they remain trusted, so I would hesitate to remove them (as 
per norm for ASF projects).

regards,
Mick

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)

[Myrle Krantz]

When I was writing the graduation proposal for Fineract I explicitly asked
each PMC member for permission to put them on the list.  One guy never
answered, so I removed him from the list.  There's nothing really *wrong*
with having inactive PMC members, but you can at least start your project's
TLP "life" with the ones who are active enough to respond and subscribe.

YMMV, but for the graduation vote, I'd like to at least know which ones are
subscribed for the purposes of getting a slightly more accurate picture of
the project's true corporate diversity.

Best,
Myrle

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:42 AM Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’m still not 100% sure that this project its ready to graduate. Looking
> at the roster [1] only 1/2 the the proposed PMC members are signed up to
> the projects private list. Some of the people suggested have limited
> interaction on the mailing list(s)  and in a couple of cases have never
> sent an email to them that I can find. How was this PMC list determined and
> where was this discussed? Perhaps the roster needs to be adjusted in the
> proposal for it to be accepted by the IPMC? What do others think?
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1.  https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/skywalking
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache TVM into the incubator

[Jason Dai]

+1 (binding)

Thanks,
-Jason

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:50 PM Gosling Von  wrote:

> +1, binding
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Von Gosling
>
> > 在 2019年2月28日，下午12:44，Markus Weimer  写道：
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > we've discussed the proposal for the TVM project in [1]. The proposal
> itself can
> > be found on the wiki [2].
> >
> > According to the Incubator rules[3] I'd like to call a vote to accept
> the new
> > TVM project as a podling in the Apache Incubator.
> >
> > A vote for accepting a new Apache Incubator podling is a majority vote.
> Everyone
> > is welcome to vote, only Incubator PMC member votes are binding. It
> would be
> > helpful (but not required) if you could add a comment stating whether
> your vote
> > is binding or non-binding.
> >
> > This vote will run for at least 72 hours (but I expect to keep it open
> for
> > longer). Please VOTE as follows:
> >
> > [ ] +1 Accept TVM into the Apache Incubator
> > [ ] +0 Abstain
> > [ ] -1 Do not accept TVM into the Apache Incubator because ...
> >
> > Thank you for everyone who decided to join in in the past discussions!
> >
> > Markus
> >
> > [1]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e2b1fe9ca76422ec80b146a6b120091f2419e2f1c27d57080f39cf6f@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >
> > [2]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TVMProposal
> >
> > [3]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#the_vote
> >
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