Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

-1 (binding) to graduation, the PMC needs to understand the importance of and 
follow our randing policy; something seems to have been missed here.

> About the  https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html, it is
> already on the apache.org site. It is obvious that it belongs to the
> ASF.

As part of the website, it needs to follow the ASF branding guidelines; there 
are no expectations.

> About other distribution platforms, using short names, rather than
> apache or asf prefixes is a common practice.

Please see https://incubator.apache.org/guides/distribution.html. It should not 
be common practice.

> For other projects, which are not controlled by the committers, it
> takes time to add Apache. None of the found ones seem to hurt ASF
> branding.

The PMC needs to manage its brand and ASF’s trademarks, registered or 
otherwise; it seems they have not been doing so.

Kind Regards,
Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[Sheng Wu]

About the  https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html, it is
already on the apache.org site. It is obvious that it belongs to the
ASF.

About other distribution platforms, using short names, rather than
apache or asf prefixes is a common practice. Keeping the readme clear
and stating it is an Apache project, is a good practice. And AFAIK,
pypi, crates, docs should be updated accordingly and have to rely on
the next release.

For other projects, which are not controlled by the committers, it
takes time to add Apache. None of the found ones seem to hurt ASF
branding.


Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

Justin Mclean  于2023年12月27日周三 15:15写道：
>
> HI,
>
>
> >> 2. https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html
>
> This is not fixed. I suggest the PMC members have a good read of our branding 
> policy to understand what is needed here. [1] At a minimum, the project needs 
> to be referred to as “Apache OpenDAL”, and the trademark attribution needs to 
> be added. Please see [2] as well, in particular [3] and [4], but there are 
> other issues here as well.
>
> > NOTE: pypi.org, crates.io, docs.rs will be updated after our next release 
> > published.
>
> Can you fix the description and add the trademark attributions without making 
> a release?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility
> 2. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
> 3. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
> 4. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#attributions

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[Justin Mclean]

HI,


>> 2. https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html

This is not fixed. I suggest the PMC members have a good read of our branding 
policy to understand what is needed here. [1] At a minimum, the project needs 
to be referred to as “Apache OpenDAL”, and the trademark attribution needs to 
be added. Please see [2] as well, in particular [3] and [4], but there are 
other issues here as well.

> NOTE: pypi.org, crates.io, docs.rs will be updated after our next release 
> published.

Can you fix the description and add the trademark attributions without making a 
release?

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility
2. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
3. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
4. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#attributions

Re: [LICENSE QUESTION] Use jmh as a benchmark tool

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

As listed in that document, a GPL license with a classpath exception is 
category X, so everything that applies to other category X licenses applies to 
that license. System dependencies that users or developers typically have 
installed that don't impact the license of the compiled package are generally 
OK, so most versions of Java are OK.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[Xuanwo]

To better inform our users about our branding policy, particularly regarding
the use of names, we've included a branding section in our README: 

https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3831

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, at 14:39, Xuanwo wrote:
>> I found a few minor issues where some name and branding work needs to 
>> be done. Note that the project should be referred to as “OpenDAL” in 
>> the first instances and generally in headings, and 3rd parties need to 
>> make it clear it is an Apache project and includes the trademark 
>> attribute.
>
> Thanks for raising those issues.
>
> I have fixed this for all websites controlled by us, including:
>
>> 1. https://pypi.org/project/opendal/
>> 2. https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html
>> 3. https://crates.io/crates/opendal
>> 4. https://docs.rs/crate/opendal/latest
>> 6. https://hackmd.io/@opendal
>
> NOTE: pypi.org, crates.io, docs.rs will be updated after our next 
> release published.
>
> For third-party sites, the OpenDAL PMC will strive to communicate with 
> them to ensure compliance with our branding policy.
>
> I have started some work in this area as listed:
>
> With dilu: https://github.com/zwpaper/dilu/pull/1
> With databend: https://github.com/datafuselabs/databend-docs/pull/285
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, at 13:41, Justin Mclean wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I found a few minor issues where some name and branding work needs to 
>> be done. Note that the project should be referred to as “OpenDAL” in 
>> the first instances and generally in headings, and 3rd parties need to 
>> make it clear it is an Apache project and includes the trademark 
>> attribute.
>>
>> For instance, here [1], and also on the documentation, for example, 
>> [2], and here [3] and here [4], and with some 3rd party sites [5][6] 
>> and [7] (search for OpenDal)
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Justin
>>
>> 1. https://pypi.org/project/opendal/
>> 2. https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html
>> 3. https://crates.io/crates/opendal
>> 4. https://docs.rs/crate/opendal/latest
>> 5. https://llamahub.ai/l/opendal_reader
>> 6, https://hackmd.io/@opendal
>> 7 https://databend.rs/
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Celeborn(Incubating) 0.3.2-incubating-rc1

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Sorry, but it is -1 (binding) for now. Clearing up some of the issues below may 
mean that I change my vote.

I checked
- incubating in artifact name
- signatures and hashes are correct
- LICENSE mentions 1 3rd party file from Guava; however, the NOTICE lists both 
Apache Spark and Apache Flink, so I think other files may have been copied into 
the code base, and LICENSE is missing information or the NOTICE is incorrect.
- There is some overlap with some files with [1]; this is concerning as these 
files are under a GPL license. Would you happen to know who has copied from 
whom here? If ASF files have been re-licensed under the GPL license, what is 
the PMC doing about this? What is the relationship, if any, between this 
company and the PMC?
- This file [2] seems to have been copied from Kyuubi?
- No unexpected binary files
- All files have correct source headers
- I didn't compile from the source

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://github.com/alldatacenter/alldata
2. /dev/checkout_pr.sh

Re: [LICENSE QUESTION] Use jmh as a benchmark tool

[Vladimir Sitnikov]

Justin>GPL files with classpath exceptions are not allowed [1]

Justin, could you please elaborate?
The link in [1] you mention reads "Special exceptions to the GNU GPL (e.g.
GNU Classpath)"

If "GPL with classpath exception" is not allowed, then **all** ASF
Java-based projects violate the policy as all the projects use
java.lang.String
which is licensed under GPL+Classpath exception.
I'm puzzled how one could release Java-based project without depending on
java.lang.something.

Vladimir

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[Xuanwo]

> I found a few minor issues where some name and branding work needs to 
> be done. Note that the project should be referred to as “OpenDAL” in 
> the first instances and generally in headings, and 3rd parties need to 
> make it clear it is an Apache project and includes the trademark 
> attribute.

Thanks for raising those issues.

I have fixed this for all websites controlled by us, including:

> 1. https://pypi.org/project/opendal/
> 2. https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html
> 3. https://crates.io/crates/opendal
> 4. https://docs.rs/crate/opendal/latest
> 6. https://hackmd.io/@opendal

NOTE: pypi.org, crates.io, docs.rs will be updated after our next release 
published.

For third-party sites, the OpenDAL PMC will strive to communicate with them to 
ensure compliance with our branding policy.

I have started some work in this area as listed:

With dilu: https://github.com/zwpaper/dilu/pull/1
With databend: https://github.com/datafuselabs/databend-docs/pull/285

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, at 13:41, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I found a few minor issues where some name and branding work needs to 
> be done. Note that the project should be referred to as “OpenDAL” in 
> the first instances and generally in headings, and 3rd parties need to 
> make it clear it is an Apache project and includes the trademark 
> attribute.
>
> For instance, here [1], and also on the documentation, for example, 
> [2], and here [3] and here [4], and with some 3rd party sites [5][6] 
> and [7] (search for OpenDal)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://pypi.org/project/opendal/
> 2. https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html
> 3. https://crates.io/crates/opendal
> 4. https://docs.rs/crate/opendal/latest
> 5. https://llamahub.ai/l/opendal_reader
> 6, https://hackmd.io/@opendal
> 7 https://databend.rs/

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache HugeGraph (Incubating) 1.2.0 rc1

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

+1  (binding)

I checked all source releases.

- incubating in names
- all release include LICENSE, NOTICE and DISCLAIMER
- The NOTICE file for huge graph-computer could be improved, as it contains 
unnecessary information. "Copyright 2012 and onwards JanusGraph Authors” is 
clearly not correct.
- The NOTICE file for the main source release duplicate information, i.e. "This 
product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation 
(http://www.apache.org/).” and also includes text that is not required.
- No unexpected binary files
- All files have correct headers, except this file might have an incorrect 
header. [1]
- was unable to compile but probably my setup

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. ./hugegraph-server/hugegraph-dist/src/assembly/static/bin/wait-storage.sh


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Re: [LICENSE QUESTION] Use jmh as a benchmark tool

[tison]

Thanks for your feedback!

I interpret the response as we don't distribute JMH files in source or
binary form, and it's optionally included in test scope. So we can
depend on its classes like we depend on "java.lang.String".

Again, no GPL files are distributed with Fury in source or binary form.

Best,
tison.

Justin Mclean  于2023年12月27日周三 14:00写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> GPL files with classpath exceptions are not allowed [1]. Any files with that 
> license cannot be in an ASF distribution [2] in source or binary form. They 
> cannot be a non-optional dependency. [3]
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> 2. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#prohibited
> 3. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional

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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Rakesh Radhakrishnan]

OK, that's really interesting. I hope you will add  "Gluten-Trino
" and "Gluten-Flink" as
sub-projects(plugin module) under the main Gluten project and follow a
single release cycle?

Is it technically/architecturally feasible to develop a "Gluten-Hive"
plugin (as we know Hive uses Apache Tez DAG) as a long term plan ?

Thanks,
Rakesh

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 4:30 PM ShaoFeng Shi  wrote:

> Hi Rakesh,
>
> Thanks for your comment. The Trino plugin is under PoC, not ready for
> widely use at this moment, so it is staged in another git repository:
> https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino
> Flink support is still in early discussion stage, need more collaboration
> in the future.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> Apache Kylin PMC,
> Apache Incubator PMC,
> Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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> Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月26日周二 11:24写道：
>
> > Thanks Shaofeng and team for the efforts!
> >
> > Its really interesting to see that Flink and Trino projects can get the
> > benefits of Gluten and boost their performance. Much appreciated, if you
> > could share more on this integration, perf_numbers,
> pullrequest_reference,
> > jira_reference etc. Will Flink and Trino already have a plugin mechanism
> in
> > place to seamlessly integrate with Gluten ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rakesh
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM ShaoFeng Shi 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Enrico,
> > >
> > > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when
> they
> > > find me for coaching.
> > >
> > > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the
> JVM-based
> > > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> > > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> > > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> > > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also
> mentioned
> > > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies,
> > like
> > > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and scope
> is
> > > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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> > >
> > >
> > > Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
> > >
> > > > Shaofeng,
> > > >
> > > > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> > > >  ha scritto:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi IPMC members,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
> Gluten.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark
> > SQL
> > > > > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > > > > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native
> > > engines
> > > > in
> > > > > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> > > >
> > > > Have you considered making this project a subproject of Apache Spark
> ?
> > > >
> > > > Enrico
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the proposal -
> > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > > > project
> > > > > through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> > > > y...@apache.org]
> > > > > and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> > > > >
> > > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Shaofeng Shi.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > > > > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > > > Email: shaofeng...@apache.org
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache HugeGraph (Incubating) 1.2.0 rc1

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Only the release artifacts need incubating in their name.

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Re: [LICENSE QUESTION] Use jmh as a benchmark tool

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

GPL files with classpath exceptions are not allowed [1]. Any files with that 
license cannot be in an ASF distribution [2] in source or binary form. They 
cannot be a non-optional dependency. [3]

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Venkat Ranganathan]

I am currently looking into gluten as well and have been looking ap spark
acceleration in general.  Available for contribution as well as mentoring.

Thanks

Venkat

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>
> Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not
> impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily achievable.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

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Hi,

Looks like a good proposal. Only one thing stood out to me, while not 
impossible, planning to graduate in a year might not be easily achievable.

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Re: [LICENSE QUESTION] Use jmh as a benchmark tool

[Vladimir Sitnikov]

Most JMH source files (e.g. see [1]) have the same license as
java.lang.String.
Do you exclude files that use `java.lang.String` from the release? I doubt
so.
The same goes for the benchmarks.

>Or, we can exclude the benchmark code from the release like [4] but
>still hold it in the VCS.

There's no point in excluding benchmarks from the release.
There might be value in publishing the benchmark jars along with the release

However, it is illegal to use jmh files (or any other files) that are
licensed under "GPL without classpath exception".
In other words: if the file has classpath exception, you can use it (e.g.
depend on it, extend class, implement interface), if the classpath
exception is not there you can't.

[1]:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-399?focusedCommentId=16577099=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16577099

Vladimir

Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[俊平堵]

This is definitely an interesting project and I noticed this project from
a very early stage.
I saw many discussions above on if Gluten should be a subproject of Spark
or not, and I can see the value to keep it independent just like Shaofeng's
previous points. However, the project name or slogan - "Gluten: Plugin to
Double SparkSQL's Performance" could be updated a bit later to get rid of
the confusion to serve SparkSQL only.
+1 on the project going to apache. I am interested in helping as mentor if
needed.


Thanks,

JP

ShaoFeng Shi  于2023年12月22日周五 20:59写道：

> Hi IPMC members,
>
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
>
> Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native engines in
> data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
>
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
>
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> y...@apache.org]
> and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
>
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
>
> Best,
> Shaofeng Shi.
>
> [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> Apache Kylin PMC,
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[justin]

Hi,

Another instance [1]

Kind Regards,
Justin



1. https://github.com/zwpaper/dilu

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Sorry, that should be "trademark attribution”, not “trademark attribute”.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I found a few minor issues where some name and branding work needs to be done. 
Note that the project should be referred to as “OpenDAL” in the first instances 
and generally in headings, and 3rd parties need to make it clear it is an 
Apache project and includes the trademark attribute.

For instance, here [1], and also on the documentation, for example, [2], and 
here [3] and here [4], and with some 3rd party sites [5][6] and [7] (search for 
OpenDal)

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://pypi.org/project/opendal/
2. https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html
3. https://crates.io/crates/opendal
4. https://docs.rs/crate/opendal/latest
5. https://llamahub.ai/l/opendal_reader
6, https://hackmd.io/@opendal
7 https://databend.rs/

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Answer(Incubating) v1.2.1-RC1 (Round2)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

+1 (binding)

In the source release, I checked:
- incubating in artifacts name
- signatures and hashes are correct
- LICENSE and NOTICE are fine
- DISCLAIMER exists
- all files have ASF headers
- no unexpected binary files
- my system isn't setup to compile it

In the REDME.md it suggests that people run the latest non-released version; 
please don't do this. [1]

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#what

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Answer(Incubating) v1.2.1-RC1 (Round2)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

+1 (binding)

In the source release, I checked:
- incubating in artifacts name
- signatures and hashes are correct
- LICENSE and NOTICE are fine
- DISCLAIMER exists
- all files have ASF headers
- no unexpected binary files
- my system isn't setup to compile it

In the REDME.md it suggests that people run the latest non-released version; 
please don't do this. [1]

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#what

Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[Wenli Zhang]

+1
I am delighted to see the proposal for Gluten and honored to be a mentor for 
this innovative project. I look forward to contributing my insights and helping 
guide Gluten through the incubation process. Thank you for this opportunity, 
and I am ready to support the project’s success.

Best regards,
Wenli Zhang

On 2023/12/22 12:58:24 ShaoFeng Shi wrote:
> Hi IPMC members,
> 
> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
> 
> Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark SQL
> queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native engines in
> data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> 
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> 
> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project
> through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [y...@apache.org]
> and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> 
> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> 
> Best,
> Shaofeng Shi.
> 
> [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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> Apache Incubator PMC,
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Re: [LICENSE QUESTION] Use jmh as a benchmark tool

[Sheng Wu]

I think once it stays in the test scope, it should be good.
The release policy is about compiling sources to get the binary, which
means the final version could work without GPLx is the most important
part.

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

tison  于2023年12月27日周三 09:09写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> The new podling Fury depends on jmh[1] which is licensed under GPLv2
> with "CLASSPATH" EXCEPTION.
>
> IIRC Flink ever factored out its benchmark code into a separate repo
> [2] to comply with ASF's license policy [3].
>
> But since Fury doesn't modify jmh's code, just refers to some
> "org.openjdk.jmh." classes, I wonder if it's the same that a Java
> source file refers to JDK's classes under GPLv2 with "CLASSPATH"
> EXCEPTION.
>
> Or, we can exclude the benchmark code from the release like [4] but
> still hold it in the VCS.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> [1] https://github.com/openjdk/jmh?tab=GPL-2.0-1-ov-file
> [2] https://github.com/apache/flink-benchmarks
> [3] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache OpenDAL (incubating) as a TLP - Incubator

[Sheng Wu]

My +1 binding

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

tison  于2023年12月25日周一 14:20写道：
>
> Carry my +1 from the dev maliing list.
>
> OpenDAL developed a diverse and vibrant community to release
> high-quality OSS software during the past months and I believe its
> maturity is at the level of a TLP.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> Xuanwo  于2023年12月25日周一 10:22写道：
> >
> > Hi, all
> >
> > OpenDAL began its incubation journey on February 27, 2023. Since then,
> > our community has significantly matured.
> >
> > After discussion with the community [1] and voted [2], [3] for graduation 
> > with
> > the result at [4], [5]. So, we'd like to start the discussion and would
> > appreciate any feedback toward graduation!
> >
> > Below are some facts and project highlights from the incubation phase
> > as well as the draft resolution:
> >
> > - Currently, our community consists of 20 committers, including mentors,
> >   with 12 serving as PPMC members.
> > - At present, we boast 162 contributors.
> > - Throughout the incubation period, we've made 9 releases—averaging at
> >   least one per month.
> > - We've had 7 different release managers to date.
> > - Our software is in production use by 10 known entities and is a dependency
> >   for 261 GitHub projects and 18 crates.io packages.
> > - To date, we have opened 1,100+ issues with 1,000+ successfully resolved.
> > - We have submitted a total of 2,300+ PRs, most of them have been merged
> >   or closed.
> > - We have met all maturity criteria as outlined in [6].
> >
> > We've resolved all branding issues which include Logo, GitHub repo,
> > document, website, and others.
> >
> > I'd also like to take this opportunity to extend a heartfelt thank you to 
> > our
> > mentors. Your timely assistance throughout the incubation period was 
> > invaluable,
> > and we're grateful for your support in answering our numerous questions.
> >
> > Thanks a lot, Sheng Wu, Ted Liu, Willem Ning Jiang, Xiaoqiao He and Zili 
> > Chen!
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Establish the Apache OpenDAL Project
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > related to Open Data Access Layer: Access data freely, painlessly, and
> > efficiently.
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache OpenDAL Project", be and hereby is
> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenDAL Project be and hereby is responsible
> > for the creation and maintenance of software related to Open Data Access
> > Layer: Access data freely, painlessly, and efficiently; and be it
> > further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache OpenDAL" be and
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache OpenDAL
> > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache OpenDAL
> > Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache OpenDAL Project:
> >
> >  * Cai Lue   
> >  * Chojan Shang  
> >  * Han Xu
> >  * Hao Ding  
> >  * Jun Ouyang
> >  * Mingzhuo Yin  
> >  * Sheng Wu  
> >  * Sundy Li  
> >  * Ted Liu   
> >  * Willem Ning Jiang 
> >  * Xiangdong 
> >  * Xiaoqiao He   
> >  * Zheao Li  
> >  * Zili Chen 
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hao Ding be appointed to
> > the office of Vice President, Apache OpenDAL, to serve in accordance
> > with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> > Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
> > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> > further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenDAL Project be and hereby is tasked with
> > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator OpenDAL
> > podling; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > OpenDAL podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > discharged.
> >
> > [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/kq00ynqtbbwsh2n7485s5vypzjropck6
> > [2]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/v4wjqjvk6nmqfj63dh7omm9c06tk6ygb
> > [3]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/fhsywop4ponlx5r8pjgp3qj3lt9fp293
> > [4]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/d94j15y1ktxkpksdg4glmyp2thdhf27g
> > [5]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/5ty346dj3jtxz3y084dylzg8djvzn7of
> > [6]: 

[LICENSE QUESTION] Use jmh as a benchmark tool

[tison]

Hi,

The new podling Fury depends on jmh[1] which is licensed under GPLv2
with "CLASSPATH" EXCEPTION.

IIRC Flink ever factored out its benchmark code into a separate repo
[2] to comply with ASF's license policy [3].

But since Fury doesn't modify jmh's code, just refers to some
"org.openjdk.jmh." classes, I wonder if it's the same that a Java
source file refers to JDK's classes under GPLv2 with "CLASSPATH"
EXCEPTION.

Or, we can exclude the benchmark code from the release like [4] but
still hold it in the VCS.

Best,
tison.

[1] https://github.com/openjdk/jmh?tab=GPL-2.0-1-ov-file
[2] https://github.com/apache/flink-benchmarks
[3] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
[4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/blob/main/.gitattributes

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache HugeGraph (Incubating) 1.2.0 rc1

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Yu,

"Do release files have the word incubating in their name?" is for the
release kits, not the maven artifacts. I think we can polish the
checklist for it.
The examples that you showed are all the maven artifacts version,
which is not required for the incubator release kit check.

Just my 2 cents.


Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:37 AM Yu Li  wrote:
>
> Well, this is something worth a double check then.
>
> In the incubator release checklist document [1] it explicitly mentions "Do
> release files have the word incubating in their name?", and we need to
> clarify whether that means the tar file only or binary files inside also.
>
> Checking the jars deployed onto the maven repo, we could see those with
> incubating in their names (such as Spark [2] and Flink [3] in their old
> times, or Livy [4] and Paimon [5] still under incubation) and those
> without. So it seems the standard is not aligned.
>
> For me, include "incubating" in the jar file name could better remind our
> users that they are using something still under apache incubation, no
> matter where they get the binaries from, which has similar effect as the
> DISCLAIMER file in the tar ball. However, if this is *confirmed* to be only
> nice-to-have rather than required, I could withdraw my -1, and I'd suggest
> to document the standard more explicitly in our release checklist.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Yu
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Incubator+Release+Checklist
> [2]
> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.spark/spark-core_2.10/0.9.0-incubating
> [3]
> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.flink/flink-core/0.7.0-incubating
> [4]
> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.livy/livy-core_2.12/0.8.0-incubating
> [5]
> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.paimon/paimon-common/0.6.0-incubating
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 8:46 PM PJ Fanning  wrote:
>
> > The jars don't have to have incubating in the name, as far as I know.
> > The source release file (the tgz) has to but I think it is not
> > required elsewhere.
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 12:48, Yu Li  wrote:
> > >
> > > -1 (binding)
> > >
> > >
> > > - Checked sum and signatures: OK
> > >
> > > - Checked DISCLAIMER file exists: OK
> > >
> > > - Checked LICENSE and NOTICE files: OK
> > >
> > > - Checked no binary files in source package: OK
> > >
> > > - Checked release file name and location: FAILED
> > >   - The HugeGraph jar files in apache-hugegraph-incubating-1.2.0.tar.gz
> > > (under the lib directory) don't have the word "incubating" in their
> > names.
> > > For example, I see file with name like "hugegraph-api-1.2.0.jar"
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Yu
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 at 23:26, simon  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Incubator Community,
> > > >
> > > > This is a call for vote to release Apache HugeGraph (Incubating)
> > version
> > > > 1.2.0
> > > >
> > > > The Apache HugeGraph community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> > > > release Apache HugeGraph(Incubating) version 1.2.0
> > > >
> > > > We now kindly request the Incubator PMC members review and vote on this
> > > > incubator release.
> > > >
> > > > HugeGraph community vote thread:
> > > > - https://lists.apache.org/thread/mnxld09b2ozwldcxb0rpp6s7cdbdnvsw
> > > >
> > > > Vote result thread:
> > > > - https://lists.apache.org/thread/wns67scpfvcltk33pl403jl48pd0hc61
> > > >
> > > > The release candidate:
> > > > - https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/hugegraph/1.2.0/
> > > >
> > > > Git tag & Commit hash for the release:
> > > > - https://github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph/tree/1.2.0  (7635c67)
> > > > - https://github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-toolchain/tree/1.2.0
> > > >  (f85dcf3)
> > > > - https://github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-computer/tree/1.2.0
> > > >  (0500fec)
> > > > - https://github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-commons/tree/1.2.0
> > > >  (33fa9ed)
> > > >
> > > > Release notes:
> > > > -
> > > >
> > https://hugegraph.apache.org/docs/changelog/hugegraph-1.2.0-release-notes/
> > > >
> > > > Keys to verify the Release Candidate:
> > > > - https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/hugegraph/KEYS
> > > >
> > > > The release GPG user ID: simon (m...@apache.org)
> > > >
> > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until the necessary
> > number
> > > > of votes are reached.
> > > >
> > > > Please vote accordingly:
> > > > [ ] +1 approve
> > > > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > > > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > > >
> > > > More detail checklist please refer:
> > > > -
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Incubator+Release+Checklist
> > > >
> > > > Steps to validate the release，Please refer to:
> > > > English Version:
> > > > -
> > > >
> > https://hugegraph.apache.org/docs/contribution-guidelines/validate-release/
> > > > Chinese Version:
> > > > -
> > > >
> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Gluten proposal

[ShaoFeng Shi]

Hi Rakesh,

Thanks for your comment. The Trino plugin is under PoC, not ready for
widely use at this moment, so it is staged in another git repository:
https://github.com/oap-project/Gluten-Trino
Flink support is still in early discussion stage, need more collaboration
in the future.

Best regards,

Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
Apache Kylin PMC,
Apache Incubator PMC,
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Rakesh Radhakrishnan  于2023年12月26日周二 11:24写道：

> Thanks Shaofeng and team for the efforts!
>
> Its really interesting to see that Flink and Trino projects can get the
> benefits of Gluten and boost their performance. Much appreciated, if you
> could share more on this integration, perf_numbers, pullrequest_reference,
> jira_reference etc. Will Flink and Trino already have a plugin mechanism in
> place to seamlessly integrate with Gluten ?
>
> Thanks,
> Rakesh
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 6:13 PM ShaoFeng Shi 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Enrico,
> >
> > This is a good question. Actually I asked the same to the team when they
> > find me for coaching.
> >
> > As the proposal mentioned, Gluten is a middle layer between the JVM-based
> > SQL engine and native libraries. It connects the two sides, and build
> > common services like unified plan transformation, seamless native
> > integration, clear JNI interfaces, etc. Spark is the first engine it
> > supports now, but the framework and mechanism can also work for other
> > engines like Trino, Flink SQL in the future (the proposal also mentioned
> > this). Underlying Gluten, it can integrate with different libararies,
> like
> > Velox, Clickhouse and Arrow (not ready yet). So, its mission and scope is
> > different, that's why we put it as a new project.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> > Apache Kylin PMC,
> > Apache Incubator PMC,
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> >
> >
> > Enrico Olivelli  于2023年12月22日周五 22:43写道：
> >
> > > Shaofeng,
> > >
> > > Il giorno ven 22 dic 2023 alle ore 13:59 ShaoFeng Shi
> > >  ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > Hi IPMC members,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - Gluten.
> > > >
> > > > Gluten[1] is a middle layer responsible for offloading Apache Spark
> SQL
> > > > queries to native engines. This project aims to address the CPU
> > > > computational bottleneck to offload SparkSQL operators to native
> > engines
> > > in
> > > > data loading scenarios based on Apache Spark.
> > >
> > > Have you considered making this project a subproject of Apache Spark ?
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is the proposal -
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/GlutenProposal
> > > >
> > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
> > > project
> > > > through the incubator with Yu Li [l...@apache.org], Kent Yao [
> > > y...@apache.org]
> > > > and Wenli Zhang [ovi...@apache.org] .
> > > >
> > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Shaofeng Shi.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://oap-project.github.io/gluten/
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
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> > > > Apache Incubator PMC,
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Re: [VOTE] Accept XTable into the ASF Incubator

[俊平堵]

+1 (binding)

Thanks,

JP

Jesus Camacho Rodriguez  于2023年12月15日周五 20:17写道：

> Hi All,
>
> Following the discussion in the incubator mailing list [1], I am starting
> this official vote for the XTable project.
>
> Here is the proposal -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/XTable+Proposal
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [ ] +1, bring XTable into the Incubator
> [ ] +0, I don't care either way
> [ ] -1, do not bring XTable into the Incubator, because...
>
> This majority vote is open for at least 96 hours (due to the weekend).
>
> Only votes from Incubator PMC members are binding, but other votes are
> welcome!
>
> Thanks,
> Jesús
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/rx9z8ffrf37qjhpkf1vp5rqg5lhht7jm
>