Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
I just reviewed the changes， and it looks good to me. Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 2:10 AM tison wrote: > > You can review the implementation PRs at: > > * https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/127 > * https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/128 > > Hopefully it's clear and we can use the description to guide podlings to > make progress. > > Best, > tison. > > > tison 于2024年5月14日周二 00:08写道： > > > Thanks for your participation! > > > > This vote has passed with 12 +1 bindings, 2 -1 bindings, 13 +1 > > non-bindings, 2 +0 bindings, 3 -0 bindings, and 2 -0 non-bindings. > > > > I'll follow the update tasks on the incubator site this week and help > > podlings make the upgrade with help from INFRA if the podlings would like > > to do so. According to the vote above, we'd "finally converge podling's > > GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix". > > > > Details of the vote are as below: > > > > +1 bindings (12): > > * Francis Chuang > > * Craig Russell > > * Xuanwo > > * Xinyu Zhou > > * Daniel Gruno > > * Ayush Saxena > > * larry mccay > > * Christofer Dutz > > * Justin Mclean > > * Yu Xiao > > * Vinayakumar B > > * tison > > > > +0 bindings (2): > > * Dave Fisher > > * PJ Fanning > > > > -0 bindings (3): > > * Richard Zowalla > > * hulk > > * suyanhanx > > > > -1 bindings (2): > > * Sheng Wu (reason [1]) > > * Alexander Alten (reason [2]) > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/yt80przs9mvd2752gcqqqs4ky1q29ymm > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/g9hkvj7y2t0jmz87p9658rs37ztlnptp > > > > +1 non-bindings (13): > > * Alex Porcelli > > * ZhangJian He > > * Wilfred Spiegelenburg > > * Alin.Jerpelea > > * Imba Jin > > * Cédric Champeau > > * Rui Fan > > * Chunshao Ren > > * Hongyu Guo > > * Jermaine Hua > > * Weibin Zeng > > * ConradJam > > * Cheng Pan > > > > -0 non-binding (2): > > * vin jake > > * Huajie Wang > > > > Best, > > tison. > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (binding) Regards JB On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 2:31 AM tison wrote: > > Hi, > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > proposals: > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo > to > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > can conflict with this consensus. > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > content). > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > prefix, and other items above > +0 do not care strongly > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best, > tison. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
You can review the implementation PRs at: * https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/127 * https://github.com/apache/incubator/pull/128 Hopefully it's clear and we can use the description to guide podlings to make progress. Best, tison. tison 于2024年5月14日周二 00:08写道： > Thanks for your participation! > > This vote has passed with 12 +1 bindings, 2 -1 bindings, 13 +1 > non-bindings, 2 +0 bindings, 3 -0 bindings, and 2 -0 non-bindings. > > I'll follow the update tasks on the incubator site this week and help > podlings make the upgrade with help from INFRA if the podlings would like > to do so. According to the vote above, we'd "finally converge podling's > GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix". > > Details of the vote are as below: > > +1 bindings (12): > * Francis Chuang > * Craig Russell > * Xuanwo > * Xinyu Zhou > * Daniel Gruno > * Ayush Saxena > * larry mccay > * Christofer Dutz > * Justin Mclean > * Yu Xiao > * Vinayakumar B > * tison > > +0 bindings (2): > * Dave Fisher > * PJ Fanning > > -0 bindings (3): > * Richard Zowalla > * hulk > * suyanhanx > > -1 bindings (2): > * Sheng Wu (reason [1]) > * Alexander Alten (reason [2]) > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/yt80przs9mvd2752gcqqqs4ky1q29ymm > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/g9hkvj7y2t0jmz87p9658rs37ztlnptp > > +1 non-bindings (13): > * Alex Porcelli > * ZhangJian He > * Wilfred Spiegelenburg > * Alin.Jerpelea > * Imba Jin > * Cédric Champeau > * Rui Fan > * Chunshao Ren > * Hongyu Guo > * Jermaine Hua > * Weibin Zeng > * ConradJam > * Cheng Pan > > -0 non-binding (2): > * vin jake > * Huajie Wang > > Best, > tison. >
[RESULT][VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
Thanks for your participation! This vote has passed with 12 +1 bindings, 2 -1 bindings, 13 +1 non-bindings, 2 +0 bindings, 3 -0 bindings, and 2 -0 non-bindings. I'll follow the update tasks on the incubator site this week and help podlings make the upgrade with help from INFRA if the podlings would like to do so. According to the vote above, we'd "finally converge podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix". Details of the vote are as below: +1 bindings (12): * Francis Chuang * Craig Russell * Xuanwo * Xinyu Zhou * Daniel Gruno * Ayush Saxena * larry mccay * Christofer Dutz * Justin Mclean * Yu Xiao * Vinayakumar B * tison +0 bindings (2): * Dave Fisher * PJ Fanning -0 bindings (3): * Richard Zowalla * hulk * suyanhanx -1 bindings (2): * Sheng Wu (reason [1]) * Alexander Alten (reason [2]) [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/yt80przs9mvd2752gcqqqs4ky1q29ymm [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/g9hkvj7y2t0jmz87p9658rs37ztlnptp +1 non-bindings (13): * Alex Porcelli * ZhangJian He * Wilfred Spiegelenburg * Alin.Jerpelea * Imba Jin * Cédric Champeau * Rui Fan * Chunshao Ren * Hongyu Guo * Jermaine Hua * Weibin Zeng * ConradJam * Cheng Pan -0 non-binding (2): * vin jake * Huajie Wang Best, tison.
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
Here is my +1 binding. Reading from the feedback above, I suggest that the INFRA team would prefer that podlings handle branding by themselves, and it's good for podlings to understand what we should add the DISCLAIMER and how to identify the incubating status. Besides, we can avoid the large renaming repo issues, especially for Go projects, and the confusing redirection assumptions. I'll count the votes and conclude the result today. Best, tison. Vinayakumar B 于2024年5月12日周日 22:53写道： > +1 (binding) > > -Vinay > > > On Sat, 11 May 2024 at 5:48 PM, Suyan wrote: > > > -0 binding from suyanhanx > > > > Sincerely, > > Suyan > > > > tison 于2024年5月8日周三 08:32写道： > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > > > proposals: > > > > > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub > > repo to > > > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > > > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > > > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > > > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > description > > > can conflict with this consensus. > > > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > > > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > > > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > DISCLAIMER > > > content). > > > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > > > > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > > > prefix, and other items above > > > +0 do not care strongly > > > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > > > > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member > of > > > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > > > > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > Best, > > > tison. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (binding) -Vinay On Sat, 11 May 2024 at 5:48 PM, Suyan wrote: > -0 binding from suyanhanx > > Sincerely, > Suyan > > tison 于2024年5月8日周三 08:32写道： > > > > Hi, > > > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > > proposals: > > > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub > repo to > > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > > can conflict with this consensus. > > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > > content). > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > > prefix, and other items above > > +0 do not care strongly > > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > Best, > > tison. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
-0 binding from suyanhanx Sincerely, Suyan tison 于2024年5月8日周三 08:32写道： > > Hi, > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > proposals: > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo > to > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > can conflict with this consensus. > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > content). > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > prefix, and other items above > +0 do not care strongly > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best, > tison. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) Thanks, Cheng Pan > On May 11, 2024, at 16:02, ConradJam wrote: > > +1 (non-binding) > > tison 于2024年5月8日周三 08:32写道： > >> Hi, >> >> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following >> proposals: >> >> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub >> repo to >> have a name without the incubator- prefix. >> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their >> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. >> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description >> can conflict with this consensus. >> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe >> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including >> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER >> content). >> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok >> >> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- >> prefix, and other items above >> +0 do not care strongly >> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... >> >> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of >> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. >> >> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. >> >> Best, >> tison. >> > > > -- > Best > > ConradJam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) tison 于2024年5月8日周三 08:32写道： > Hi, > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > proposals: > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub > repo to > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > can conflict with this consensus. > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > content). > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > prefix, and other items above > +0 do not care strongly > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best, > tison. > -- Best ConradJam
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) On 2024/05/09 08:15:10 Imba Jin wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > For example, after the project is donated(in incubation), when users visit > "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" or "github.com/apache/hugegraph", it > could automatically jump to "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" (As > expected) > > However, if we create a new repo from "selfserve.apache.org" (like > "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-ai"), when the users visit non-prefix > url "github.com/apache/hugegraph-ai", it will return 404 instead of > automatically redirecting to "incubator-hugegraph-ai" (Unexpected, maybe we > need submit a JIRA ticket to enable it) > > Hope my explanation is clear~ > > Imba Jin > > On 2024/05/08 14:53:13 Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > >> > > >> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > > >>> sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > > >>>> > > >>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > > >>>> that the code is under Incubation. > > >>>> > > >>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > > >>>> indication. > > >>>> > > >>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > > >>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > > >>>> users, > > >>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > > >>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > > >>> > > >>> Can't agree more on this. > > >>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > > >>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > > >>> indicator is clear enough. > > >>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > > >>> GitHub supported operation. > > >>> > > >>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > > >> > > >> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > > >> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > > >> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > > >> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > > >> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > > >> branding of podlings. > > > > > > It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > > > it's just another way of doing it. > > > > > >> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > > >> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > > > IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > > > It is not something that can be left until later. > > > > *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > > prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > > matter to the end user? > > > > I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > > upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > > upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > > > > > > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> +1 (non binding) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > > >>>>> migrate after graduation > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Best regards > > >>>>> Alin > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Från: hulk > > >>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > > >>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo > > >>>>> name > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) Daniel Gruno 于2024年5月9日周四 21:36写道： > > On 5/9/24 03:15, Imba Jin wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > > > For example, after the project is donated(in incubation), when users visit > > "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" or "github.com/apache/hugegraph", > > it could automatically jump to "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" (As > > expected) > > > > However, if we create a new repo from "selfserve.apache.org" (like > > "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-ai"), when the users visit > > non-prefix url "github.com/apache/hugegraph-ai", it will return 404 instead > > of automatically redirecting to "incubator-hugegraph-ai" (Unexpected, maybe > > we need submit a JIRA ticket to enable it) > > This is expected behavior, as there is no hugegraph-ai repository in > this case. Redirects only work if there is an existing symlink from an > older repository with that name. > > I guess I'm confused as to why one would try visiting a URL that never > existed in the first place. > > In any case, this would be moot if the incubator prefix was dropped > going forward. > > > > > Hope my explanation is clear~ > > > > Imba Jin > > > > On 2024/05/08 14:53:13 Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > >>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > >>>>> sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >>>>>> that the code is under Incubation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > >>>>>> indication. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >>>>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >>>>>> users, > >>>>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >>>>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > >>>>> > >>>>> Can't agree more on this. > >>>>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > >>>>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > >>>>> indicator is clear enough. > >>>>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > >>>>> GitHub supported operation. > >>>>> > >>>>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > >>>> > >>>> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > >>>> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > >>>> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > >>>> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > >>>> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > >>>> branding of podlings. > >>> > >>> It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > >>> it's just another way of doing it. > >>> > >>>> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > >>>> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > >>> > >>> IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > >>> It is not something that can be left until later. > >> > >> *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > >> prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > >> matter to the end user? > >> > >> I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > >> upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > >> upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > >> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> +1 (non binding) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> from my experience w
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
On 5/9/24 03:15, Imba Jin wrote: Hi Daniel, For example, after the project is donated(in incubation), when users visit "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" or "github.com/apache/hugegraph", it could automatically jump to "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" (As expected) However, if we create a new repo from "selfserve.apache.org" (like "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-ai"), when the users visit non-prefix url "github.com/apache/hugegraph-ai", it will return 404 instead of automatically redirecting to "incubator-hugegraph-ai" (Unexpected, maybe we need submit a JIRA ticket to enable it) This is expected behavior, as there is no hugegraph-ai repository in this case. Redirects only work if there is an existing symlink from an older repository with that name. I guess I'm confused as to why one would try visiting a URL that never existed in the first place. In any case, this would be moot if the incubator prefix was dropped going forward. Hope my explanation is clear~ Imba Jin On 2024/05/08 14:53:13 Daniel Gruno wrote: On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal that the code is under Incubation. It is essential that this change does not result in losing this indication. AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to users, and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. Can't agree more on this. In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status indicator is clear enough. We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple GitHub supported operation. On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the branding of podlings. It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; it's just another way of doing it. I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. It is not something that can be left until later. *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix matter to the end user? I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com wrote: +1 (non binding) from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to migrate after graduation Best regards Alin Från: hulk Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 Till: general@incubator.apache.org Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: -0 (binding) (I like the prefix) Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : -0 binding Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： +0 (binding) wave On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang wrote: +1 (binding) I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. Francis On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: Hi, Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following proposals: 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix. 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description can conflict with this consensus. 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, includ
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
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Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
Hi Daniel, For example, after the project is donated(in incubation), when users visit "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" or "github.com/apache/hugegraph", it could automatically jump to "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" (As expected) However, if we create a new repo from "selfserve.apache.org" (like "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-ai"), when the users visit non-prefix url "github.com/apache/hugegraph-ai", it will return 404 instead of automatically redirecting to "incubator-hugegraph-ai" (Unexpected, maybe we need submit a JIRA ticket to enable it) Hope my explanation is clear~ Imba Jin On 2024/05/08 14:53:13 Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> > >> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > >>> sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >>>> > >>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >>>> that the code is under Incubation. > >>>> > >>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > >>>> indication. > >>>> > >>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >>>> users, > >>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > >>> > >>> Can't agree more on this. > >>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > >>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > >>> indicator is clear enough. > >>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > >>> GitHub supported operation. > >>> > >>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > >> > >> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > >> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > >> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > >> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > >> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > >> branding of podlings. > > > > It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > > it's just another way of doing it. > > > >> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > >> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > > It is not something that can be left until later. > > *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > matter to the end user? > > I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > > > > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 (non binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > >>>>> migrate after graduation > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards > >>>>> Alin > >>>>> > >>>>> Från: hulk > >>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > >>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo > >>>>> name > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla >>>>> zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. > >>>>> Mai 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu >>>>> com>: > >-0 > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > >>>>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > >>>>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > >>>>> sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure.
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) Best, Hongyu Guo On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 11:26 AM 任春韶 wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > Best, > Chunshao Ren > > Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月9日周四 10:15写道： > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > Best, > > Rui > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:13 AM Justin Mclean > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > +1 binding. We already have other requirements for the project to > > indicate > > > that they are incubating (e.g. website disclaimer, DISCLAIMER, and > > release > > > artifact name) that are more visible than having it in repo names. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Justin > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) Best, Chunshao Ren Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月9日周四 10:15写道： > +1 (non-binding) > > Best, > Rui > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:13 AM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > +1 binding. We already have other requirements for the project to > indicate > > that they are incubating (e.g. website disclaimer, DISCLAIMER, and > release > > artifact name) that are more visible than having it in repo names. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Justin > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) Best, Rui On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:13 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > +1 binding. We already have other requirements for the project to indicate > that they are incubating (e.g. website disclaimer, DISCLAIMER, and release > artifact name) that are more visible than having it in repo names. > > Kind Regards, > Justin > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
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Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 Le mer. 8 mai 2024 à 17:21, Christofer Dutz a écrit : > +1 binding > > Chris > > > Von: larry mccay > Datum: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024 um 17:06 > An: general@incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo > name > +1 binding > > Can't we move the indicator to the About section where it says Mirror of > (project name). > Extend that to include Under Incubation as well. > > On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:53 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno > wrote: > > >> > > >> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > > >>> sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > > >>>> > > >>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly > signal > > >>>> that the code is under Incubation. > > >>>> > > >>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > > indication. > > >>>> > > >>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will > require > > >>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > > >>>> users, > > >>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > > >>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > > >>> > > >>> Can't agree more on this. > > >>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > > >>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > > >>> indicator is clear enough. > > >>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > > >>> GitHub supported operation. > > >>> > > >>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > > >> > > >> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > > >> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. > I'll > > >> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > > >> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > > >> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > > >> branding of podlings. > > > > > > It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > > > it's just another way of doing it. > > > > > >> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > > >> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling > website. > > > > > > IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > > > It is not something that can be left until later. > > > > *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > > prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > > matter to the end user? > > > > I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > > upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > > upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > > > > > > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> +1 (non binding) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > > migrate after graduation > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Best regards > > >>>>> Alin > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Från: hulk > > >>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > > >>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub > > repo name > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla > > zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai > > 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > > > >-0 > > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > >>>>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > > >>>>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the &
AW: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 binding Chris Von: larry mccay Datum: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024 um 17:06 An: general@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name +1 binding Can't we move the indicator to the About section where it says Mirror of (project name). Extend that to include Under Incubation as well. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:53 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> > >> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > >>> sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >>>> > >>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >>>> that the code is under Incubation. > >>>> > >>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > indication. > >>>> > >>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >>>> users, > >>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > >>> > >>> Can't agree more on this. > >>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > >>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > >>> indicator is clear enough. > >>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > >>> GitHub supported operation. > >>> > >>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > >> > >> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > >> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > >> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > >> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > >> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > >> branding of podlings. > > > > It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > > it's just another way of doing it. > > > >> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > >> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > > It is not something that can be left until later. > > *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > matter to the end user? > > I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > > > > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 (non binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > migrate after graduation > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards > >>>>> Alin > >>>>> > >>>>> Från: hulk > >>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > >>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub > repo name > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai > 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > > >-0 > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > >>>>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > >>>>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > >>>>> > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (I like the prefix) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 binding Can't we move the indicator to the About section where it says Mirror of (project name). Extend that to include Under Incubation as well. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:53 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> > >> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > >>> sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >>>> > >>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >>>> that the code is under Incubation. > >>>> > >>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > indication. > >>>> > >>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >>>> users, > >>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > >>> > >>> Can't agree more on this. > >>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > >>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > >>> indicator is clear enough. > >>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > >>> GitHub supported operation. > >>> > >>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > >> > >> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > >> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > >> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > >> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > >> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > >> branding of podlings. > > > > It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > > it's just another way of doing it. > > > >> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > >> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > > It is not something that can be left until later. > > *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > matter to the end user? > > I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > > > > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 (non binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > migrate after graduation > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards > >>>>> Alin > >>>>> > >>>>> Från: hulk > >>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > >>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub > repo name > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai > 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > > >-0 > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > >>>>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > >>>>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > >>>>> > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (I like the prefix) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu < > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>: > >>>>>>> -0 binding > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >>>>
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal that the code is under Incubation. It is essential that this change does not result in losing this indication. AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to users, and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. Can't agree more on this. In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status indicator is clear enough. We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple GitHub supported operation. On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the branding of podlings. It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; it's just another way of doing it. I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. It is not something that can be left until later. *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix matter to the end user? I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com wrote: +1 (non binding) from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to migrate after graduation Best regards Alin Från: hulk Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 Till: general@incubator.apache.org Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: -0 (binding) (I like the prefix) Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : -0 binding Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： +0 (binding) wave On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang wrote: +1 (binding) I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. Francis On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: Hi, Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following proposals: 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix. 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description can conflict with this consensus. 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER content). [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix, and other items above +0 do not care strongly -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Best, tison. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > > sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >> > >> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >> that the code is under Incubation. > >> > >> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this indication. > >> > >> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >> users, > >> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > > > > Can't agree more on this. > > In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > > and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > > indicator is clear enough. > > We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > > GitHub supported operation. > > > > On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > > This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > branding of podlings. It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; it's just another way of doing it. > I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. It is not something that can be left until later. > > > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> +1 (non binding) > >>> > >>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > >>> migrate after graduation > >>> > >>> Best regards > >>> Alin > >>> > >>> Från: hulk > >>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > >>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org > >>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name > >>> > >>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla >>> zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai > >>> 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > > >>> >-0 > >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > >>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > >>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > >>> sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > >>> > >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > >>> > >>> -0 (binding) > >>> > >>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > >>> > >>>> -0 (binding) > >>>> > >>>> (I like the prefix) > >>>> > >>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu > >>>> : > >>>>> -0 binding > >>>>> > >>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > >>>>> > >>>>> Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > >>>>>> > >>>>>> +0 (binding) wave > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> +1 (binding) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Francis > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > >>>> following > >>>>>>>> proposals: > >>>>>>>> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > >>>> GitHub repo to > >>>>>>>> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > >>>>>>>> 2. Allow existing
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (Binding) -Ayush On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 20:00, PJ Fanning wrote: > > +0 binding > > I'm not enthusiastic about the change but no against it either. For me, I > think the bigger issue is that some new podlings are not doing enough > verification of their repos and docs and proactively getting their mentors > to review the situation before bringing the release to the IPMC. > > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > > > sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > > >> > > >> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > > >> that the code is under Incubation. > > >> > > >> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > > indication. > > >> > > >> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > > >> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > > >> users, > > >> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > > >> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > > > > > > Can't agree more on this. > > > In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > > > and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > > > indicator is clear enough. > > > We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > > > GitHub supported operation. > > > > > > On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > > > > This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > > relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > > note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > > prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > > shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > > branding of podlings. > > > > I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > > should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> +1 (non binding) > > >>> > > >>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > > migrate after graduation > > >>> > > >>> Best regards > > >>> Alin > > >>> > > >>> Från: hulk > > >>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > > >>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org > > >>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo > > name > > >>> > > >>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla > zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai > > 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > > > >-0 > > >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > >>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > > >>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > > sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > > >>> > > >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > >>> > > >>> -0 (binding) > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> -0 (binding) > > >>>> > > >>>> (I like the prefix) > > >>>> > > >>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu < > > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>: > > >>>>> -0 binding > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > >>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> +0 (binding) wave > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang < > > francischu...@apache.org> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> +1 (binding) > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > > >>>>>>> &
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+0 binding I'm not enthusiastic about the change but no against it either. For me, I think the bigger issue is that some new podlings are not doing enough verification of their repos and docs and proactively getting their mentors to review the situation before bringing the release to the IPMC. On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > > sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >> > >> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >> that the code is under Incubation. > >> > >> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > indication. > >> > >> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >> users, > >> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > > > > Can't agree more on this. > > In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > > and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > > indicator is clear enough. > > We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > > GitHub supported operation. > > > > On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > > This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > branding of podlings. > > I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> +1 (non binding) > >>> > >>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > migrate after graduation > >>> > >>> Best regards > >>> Alin > >>> > >>> Från: hulk > >>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > >>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org > >>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo > name > >>> > >>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai > 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > > >-0 > >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > >>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > >>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > >>> > >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > >>> > >>> -0 (binding) > >>> > >>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla > wrote: > >>> > >>>> -0 (binding) > >>>> > >>>> (I like the prefix) > >>>> > >>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu < > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>: > >>>>> -0 binding > >>>>> > >>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > >>>>> > >>>>> Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > >>>>>> > >>>>>> +0 (binding) wave > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang < > francischu...@apache.org> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> +1 (binding) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Francis > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > >>>> following > >>>>>>>> proposals: > >>>>>>>> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > >>>> GitHub repo to > >>>>>>>> have a name without the incubator- p
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal that the code is under Incubation. It is essential that this change does not result in losing this indication. AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to users, and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. Can't agree more on this. In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status indicator is clear enough. We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple GitHub supported operation. On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the branding of podlings. I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com wrote: +1 (non binding) from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to migrate after graduation Best regards Alin Från: hulk Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 Till: general@incubator.apache.org Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: -0 (binding) (I like the prefix) Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : -0 binding Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： +0 (binding) wave On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang wrote: +1 (binding) I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. Francis On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: Hi, Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following proposals: 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix. 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description can conflict with this consensus. 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER content). [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix, and other items above +0 do not care strongly -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Best, tison. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Best Regards, - *Hulk Lin* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
On 5/8/24 07:52, Imba Jin wrote: +1 (non-binding) In addition, I found that the new GitHub repo created through the "selfserve.apache.org" page before, the default is not configured to automatically jump the 'incubator' address(return 404), which caused some unexpected problems.. Could you elaborate on what you mean by this? Imba Jin On 2024/05/08 00:31:23 tison wrote: Hi, Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following proposals: 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix. 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description can conflict with this consensus. 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER content). [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix, and other items above +0 do not care strongly -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Best, tison. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) In addition, I found that the new GitHub repo created through the "selfserve.apache.org" page before, the default is not configured to automatically jump the 'incubator' address(return 404), which caused some unexpected problems.. Imba Jin On 2024/05/08 00:31:23 tison wrote: > Hi, > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > proposals: > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo > to > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > can conflict with this consensus. > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > content). > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > prefix, and other items above > +0 do not care strongly > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best, > tison. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
As a polling member, my vote is -1 (unbinding) for dropping incubator-* We need a clear difference between projects who are in consideration to get a full supported TLP and the ones who undergo the process. Just my 2 cents —Alex > On 8. May 2024, at 10:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > > sebb mailto:seb...@gmail.com>> 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： >> >> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal >> that the code is under Incubation. >> >> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this indication. >> >> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require >> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to >> users, >> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings >> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > > Can't agree more on this. > In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > indicator is clear enough. > We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > GitHub supported operation. > > On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > >> >> >> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com >> wrote: >>> >>> +1 (non binding) >>> >>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to migrate >>> after graduation >>> >>> Best regards >>> Alin >>> >>> Från: hulk >>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 >>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org >>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name >>> >>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla >> zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai >>> 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart >>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. >>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the sender >>> and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. >>> >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd >>> >>> -0 (binding) >>> >>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: >>> >>>> -0 (binding) >>>> >>>> (I like the prefix) >>>> >>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : >>>>> -0 binding >>>>> >>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 >>>>> >>>>> Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： >>>>>> >>>>>> +0 (binding) wave >>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 (binding) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Francis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the >>>> following >>>>>>>> proposals: >>>>>>>> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's >>>> GitHub repo to >>>>>>>> have a name without the incubator- prefix. >>>>>>>> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their >>>>>>>> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. >>>>>>>> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the >>>> description >>>>>>>> can conflict with this consensus. >>>>>>>> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe >>>>>>>> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including >>>>>>>> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the >>>> DISCLAIMER >>>>>>>> content). >>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok=gmail-imap=171576124300=AOvVaw1uJQyA9Cowa2NFPkD5nOTS >>>>>>>> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the in
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
sebb 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > > Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > that the code is under Incubation. > > It is essential that this change does not result in losing this indication. > > AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > users, > and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. Can't agree more on this. In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status indicator is clear enough. We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple GitHub supported operation. On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > wrote: > > > > +1 (non binding) > > > > from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to migrate > > after graduation > > > > Best regards > > Alin > > > > Från: hulk > > Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > > Till: general@incubator.apache.org > > Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name > > > > -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla > zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai > > 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > > Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the sender > > and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > > > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > > > -0 (binding) > > > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > > > -0 (binding) > > > > > > (I like the prefix) > > > > > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > > > >-0 binding > > > > > > > >Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > >Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > >Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > > > >> > > > >> +0 (binding) wave > > > >> > > > >> > On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > +1 (binding) > > > >> > > > > >> > I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > > > >> > > > > >> > Francis > > > >> > > > > >> > On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > > > >> >> Hi, > > > >> >> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > > > following > > > >> >> proposals: > > > >> >> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > > > GitHub repo to > > > >> >> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > > > >> >> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > > > >> >> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > > > >> >> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > > > description > > > >> >> can conflict with this consensus. > > > >> >> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > > > >> >> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > > > >> >> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > > > DISCLAIMER > > > >> >> content). > > > >> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > > >> >> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > > > >> >> prefix, and other items above > > > >> >> +0 do not care strongly > > > >> >> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > > >> >> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a > > > member of > > > >> >> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > > >> >> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > >> >> Best, > > > >> >> tison. > > > >> > > > > >> > - > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> - > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> > > > > > > > >- > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > - *Hulk Lin* > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal that the code is under Incubation. It is essential that this change does not result in losing this indication. AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to users, and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com wrote: > > +1 (non binding) > > from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to migrate > after graduation > > Best regards > Alin > > Från: hulk > Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > Till: general@incubator.apache.org > Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name > > -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07: 41: > 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the sender > and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > -0 (binding) > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > > > -0 (binding) > > > > (I like the prefix) > > > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > > >-0 binding > > > > > >Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > >Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > >Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > > >> > > >> +0 (binding) wave > > >> > > >> > On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > +1 (binding) > > >> > > > >> > I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > > >> > > > >> > Francis > > >> > > > >> > On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > > >> >> Hi, > > >> >> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > > following > > >> >> proposals: > > >> >> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > > GitHub repo to > > >> >> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > > >> >> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > > >> >> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > > >> >> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > > description > > >> >> can conflict with this consensus. > > >> >> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > > >> >> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > > >> >> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > > DISCLAIMER > > >> >> content). > > >> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > >> >> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > > >> >> prefix, and other items above > > >> >> +0 do not care strongly > > >> >> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > >> >> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a > > member of > > >> >> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > >> >> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > >> >> Best, > > >> >> tison. > > >> > > > >> > - > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > > > > >- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > - *Hulk Lin* > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
-0 (non-binding) On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 8:32 AM tison wrote: > Hi, > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > proposals: > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub > repo to > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > can conflict with this consensus. > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > content). > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > prefix, and other items above > +0 do not care strongly > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best, > tison. >
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+1 (non binding) from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to migrate after graduation Best regards Alin Från: hulk Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 Till: general@incubator.apache.org Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 binding > > > >Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > >Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > >> > >> +0 (binding) wave > >> > >> > On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang > wrote: > >> > > >> > +1 (binding) > >> > > >> > I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > >> > > >> > Francis > >> > > >> > On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > following > >> >> proposals: > >> >> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > GitHub repo to > >> >> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > >> >> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > >> >> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > >> >> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > description > >> >> can conflict with this consensus. > >> >> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > >> >> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > >> >> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > DISCLAIMER > >> >> content). > >> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > >> >> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > >> >> prefix, and other items above > >> >> +0 do not care strongly > >> >> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > >> >> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a > member of > >> >> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > >> >> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > >> >> Best, > >> >> tison. > >> > > >> > - > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > -- Best Regards, - *Hulk Lin*
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
-0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : > >-0 binding > > > >Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > >Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > >> > >> +0 (binding) wave > >> > >> > On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang > wrote: > >> > > >> > +1 (binding) > >> > > >> > I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > >> > > >> > Francis > >> > > >> > On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > following > >> >> proposals: > >> >> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > GitHub repo to > >> >> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > >> >> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > >> >> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > >> >> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > description > >> >> can conflict with this consensus. > >> >> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > >> >> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > >> >> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > DISCLAIMER > >> >> content). > >> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > >> >> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > >> >> prefix, and other items above > >> >> +0 do not care strongly > >> >> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > >> >> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a > member of > >> >> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > >> >> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > >> >> Best, > >> >> tison. > >> > > >> > - > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > -- Best Regards, - *Hulk Lin*
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
-0 (binding) (I like the prefix) Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu : >-0 binding > >Sheng Wu 吴晟 >Twitter, wusheng1108 > >Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： >> >> +0 (binding) wave >> >> > On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang >> > wrote: >> > >> > +1 (binding) >> > >> > I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. >> > >> > Francis >> > >> > On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following >> >> proposals: >> >> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub >> >> repo to >> >> have a name without the incubator- prefix. >> >> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their >> >> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. >> >> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description >> >> can conflict with this consensus. >> >> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe >> >> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including >> >> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER >> >> content). >> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok >> >> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- >> >> prefix, and other items above >> >> +0 do not care strongly >> >> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... >> >> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of >> >> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. >> >> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. >> >> Best, >> >> tison. >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
-0 binding Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Dave Fisher 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > > +0 (binding) wave > > > On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang wrote: > > > > +1 (binding) > > > > I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > > > > Francis > > > > On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > >> Hi, > >> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > >> proposals: > >> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub > >> repo to > >> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > >> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > >> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > >> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > >> can conflict with this consensus. > >> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > >> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > >> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > >> content). > >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > >> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > >> prefix, and other items above > >> +0 do not care strongly > >> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > >> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > >> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > >> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > >> Best, > >> tison. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+0 (binding) wave > On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > > Francis > > On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: >> Hi, >> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following >> proposals: >> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo >> to >> have a name without the incubator- prefix. >> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their >> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. >> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description >> can conflict with this consensus. >> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe >> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including >> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER >> content). >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok >> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- >> prefix, and other items above >> +0 do not care strongly >> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... >> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of >> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. >> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. >> Best, >> tison. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 binding The GitHub repo name usually matches the project name. Dropping 'incubator' makes it cleaner. We'll just make sure to highlight the 'Incubating' status on our website, in the GitHub description, the README, and all release versions. I think it's very clear to the developers of the project. Regards, Xinyu Zhou On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:56 AM Wilfred Spiegelenburg wrote: > +1 not binding from wilfreds > > On 2024/05/08 00:31:23 tison wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > > proposals: > > > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub > repo to > > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > > can conflict with this consensus. > > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > > content). > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > > prefix, and other items above > > +0 do not care strongly > > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > Best, > > tison. > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 not binding from wilfreds On 2024/05/08 00:31:23 tison wrote: > Hi, > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > proposals: > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo > to > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > can conflict with this consensus. > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > content). > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > prefix, and other items above > +0 do not care strongly > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best, > tison. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1(non-binding) Thanks ZhangJian He Twitter: shoothzj Wechat: shoothzj On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:25 AM Xuanwo wrote: > +1 binding from Xuanwo > > On Wed, May 8, 2024, at 08:31, tison wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > > proposals: > > > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub > repo to > > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > > can conflict with this consensus. > > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > > content). > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > > prefix, and other items above > > +0 do not care strongly > > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > Best, > > tison. > > -- > Xuanwo > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 binding from Xuanwo On Wed, May 8, 2024, at 08:31, tison wrote: > Hi, > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > proposals: > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo > to > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > can conflict with this consensus. > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > content). > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > prefix, and other items above > +0 do not care strongly > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best, > tison. -- Xuanwo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 binding clr > On May 7, 2024, at 17:31, tison wrote: > > Hi, > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > proposals: > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo > to > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > can conflict with this consensus. > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > content). > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > prefix, and other items above > +0 do not care strongly > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best, > tison. Craig L Russell c...@apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (non-binding) Alex On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 8:35 PM Francis Chuang wrote: > +1 (binding) > > I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > > Francis > > On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following > > proposals: > > > > 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub > repo to > > have a name without the incubator- prefix. > > 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > > incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > > 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description > > can conflict with this consensus. > > 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > > podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > > "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER > > content). > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > > > > +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- > > prefix, and other items above > > +0 do not care strongly > > -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > > > > Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of > > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > > > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > > Best, > > tison. > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
+1 (binding) I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. Francis On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: Hi, Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following proposals: 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix. 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description can conflict with this consensus. 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER content). [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix, and other items above +0 do not care strongly -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Best, tison. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo name
Hi, Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the following proposals: 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix. 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the description can conflict with this consensus. 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the DISCLAIMER content). [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the incubator- prefix, and other items above +0 do not care strongly -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a member of the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. Best, tison.
