Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Hi, I almost forgot about that, as it is not a summit but may be the earliest date for a meeting. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DE/QAWochenende2011 So if some of you live rather close to Essen/Germany you may join us there. It would be helpfull to understand / speak German, as it is a meeting of the German community members. We used to have this as annual meeting with focus on QA and localization for some years now. But it is always a nice event to get to know each other, have barbecue, pizza and beer (or whatever you like ;) ) If you like to join, please notify Jacqueline and prefferable disc...@de.libreoffice.org. There are still some places left to stay overnight (but please be aware the we only have double rooms). regards, André PS.: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Res: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
I finally had access to the edit function and updated the wiki. Thanks everyone for the support :) Best, Jomar -Original Message- From: Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:20:38 To: general@incubator.apache.orggeneral@incubator.apache.org Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.orggeneral@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal Jomar, I had to verify my email address, then log back in to activate the edit token. Gotta love them wikis ;-p. D On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Jomar Silva (Cuca) homem...@gmail.com wrote: Yep... but even logged in I couldn't edit it... I'm from the third world, you know :) Jomar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
I just heard back from the Open World Forum Programme Committee (Paris, October) and they would be pleased to provide us with space for a meeting. S.
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Le Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:59:21 +0100, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com a écrit : I just heard back from the Open World Forum Programme Committee (Paris, October) and they would be pleased to provide us with space for a meeting. S. Kiss the cook! (/points at himself)... -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Simon, I've tried to edit the wiki but I don't have permisson... shame on me :) Best, Jomar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
And I just heard back from OSCON. We have a room available all day Monday (the first tutorial day). As mentioned before, access to this meeting would be gratis. D On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: I just heard back from the Open World Forum Programme Committee (Paris, October) and they would be pleased to provide us with space for a meeting. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Are you logged in? Accounts are free (hey, they even let me have one)!
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Simon,
I've tried to edit the wiki but I don't have permisson... shame on me :)
Best,
Jomar
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Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Yep... but even logged in I couldn't edit it... I'm from the third world, you know :) Jomar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Jomar Silva (Cuca) homem...@gmail.comwrote: Yep... but even logged in I couldn't edit it... I'm from the third world, you know :) Fascinating. Can you send me your login details privately and I'll see if any of the folk I have on IM can help :-) S.
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Jomar, I had to verify my email address, then log back in to activate the edit token. Gotta love them wikis ;-p. D On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Jomar Silva (Cuca) homem...@gmail.com wrote: Yep... but even logged in I couldn't edit it... I'm from the third world, you know :) Jomar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
What time on Monday? I'm not available between 1PM and 6PM. (Actually evening would be better as some people might be in tutorials all day). Dona Hertel On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 14:51 -0700, Danese Cooper wrote: And I just heard back from OSCON. We have a room available all day Monday (the first tutorial day). As mentioned before, access to this meeting would be gratis. D On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: I just heard back from the Open World Forum Programme Committee (Paris, October) and they would be pleased to provide us with space for a meeting. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the community healed. Given that: * both LibreOffice (October, Paris) and Apache (November, Vancouver) have conferences in the second half of the year, * between them cover both Europe and North America, * plenty of people will be travelling anyway to attend them, * it's much easier to co-operate with people you've met I would like to suggest to both TDF and Apache that they host an OpenOffice.org Unity Summit (or some less cheesy name if you prefer!) at both conferences, inviting everyone associated in any way with the overall OpenOffice.org community (open source projects like LibreOffice or the proposed Apache project, their direct downstreams like NeoOffice, their commercial derivatives like Symphony) to attend, preferably without charge. The event would need a neutral Chair/Organiser and a suitably egalitarian agenda, naturally. Is this worth exploring? S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Actually some of us at ConCom are already deep into discussion about what meetings would best support better understanding between parties. As an Apache member, I'm normally quite willing to see email thrash eventually work itself out...but this news has caused so much concern (and circular conversation) that its probably better to start meeting face to face as possible. I would help run these meeting(s) if asked. It wouldn't be the first time I've helped work through issues for the OOo community. Danese On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the community healed. Given that: * both LibreOffice (October, Paris) and Apache (November, Vancouver) have conferences in the second half of the year, * between them cover both Europe and North America, * plenty of people will be travelling anyway to attend them, * it's much easier to co-operate with people you've met I would like to suggest to both TDF and Apache that they host an OpenOffice.org Unity Summit (or some less cheesy name if you prefer!) at both conferences, inviting everyone associated in any way with the overall OpenOffice.org community (open source projects like LibreOffice or the proposed Apache project, their direct downstreams like NeoOffice, their commercial derivatives like Symphony) to attend, preferably without charge. The event would need a neutral Chair/Organiser and a suitably egalitarian agenda, naturally. Is this worth exploring? S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the community healed. Given that: * both LibreOffice (October, Paris) and Apache (November, Vancouver) have conferences in the second half of the year, * between them cover both Europe and North America, * plenty of people will be travelling anyway to attend them, * it's much easier to co-operate with people you've met I would like to suggest to both TDF and Apache that they host an OpenOffice.org Unity Summit (or some less cheesy name if you prefer!) at both conferences, inviting everyone associated in any way with the overall OpenOffice.org community (open source projects like LibreOffice or the proposed Apache project, their direct downstreams like NeoOffice, their commercial derivatives like Symphony) to attend, preferably without charge. I'm interested. The event would need a neutral Chair/Organiser and a suitably egalitarian agenda, naturally. Is this worth exploring? Sounds like a rat-hole. I'd suggest that each chair a meeting at their respective venue. Or vice versa. S. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE : Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
As the convener of the LibreOffice conference, I'd welcome such a meeting. We can have it in the course of the ODF master class. Best, Charles. Le 6 juin 2011, 7:25 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net a écrit : On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: My apologies if this propo... I'm interested. The event would need a neutral Chair/Organiser and a suitably egalitarian agenda, naturally. Is ... Sounds like a rat-hole. I'd suggest that each chair a meeting at their respective venue. Or vice versa. S. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: gener...
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the community healed. Given that: * both LibreOffice (October, Paris) and Apache (November, Vancouver) have conferences in the second half of the year, * between them cover both Europe and North America, * plenty of people will be travelling anyway to attend them, * it's much easier to co-operate with people you've met I would like to suggest to both TDF and Apache that they host an OpenOffice.org Unity Summit (or some less cheesy name if you prefer!) at both conferences, inviting everyone associated in any way with the overall OpenOffice.org community (open source projects like LibreOffice or the proposed Apache project, their direct downstreams like NeoOffice, their commercial derivatives like Symphony) to attend, preferably without charge. We haven't yet started scheduling the Meetups for ApacheCon yet (it is still five months out :-)), but with such a vibrant community, it seems certain to me that *someone* will propose an OOo one. It is usual at Apache that those who volunteer to do the work get to steer a course for that work, but I think we can ensure that it's open and inclusive, and we always welcome new volunteers! Our Meetups are typically evening events adjacent to the main conference, and are free of charge to attendees (whether or not they're registered for the conference.) We'd be more than happy to welcome the whole FLOSS-Office ecosystem, I'm sure. However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? Noirin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the community healed. Given that: * both LibreOffice (October, Paris) and Apache (November, Vancouver) have conferences in the second half of the year, * between them cover both Europe and North America, * plenty of people will be travelling anyway to attend them, * it's much easier to co-operate with people you've met I would like to suggest to both TDF and Apache that they host an OpenOffice.org Unity Summit (or some less cheesy name if you prefer!) at both conferences, inviting everyone associated in any way with the overall OpenOffice.org community (open source projects like LibreOffice or the proposed Apache project, their direct downstreams like NeoOffice, their commercial derivatives like Symphony) to attend, preferably without charge. We haven't yet started scheduling the Meetups for ApacheCon yet (it is still five months out :-)), but with such a vibrant community, it seems certain to me that *someone* will propose an OOo one. It is usual at Apache that those who volunteer to do the work get to steer a course for that work, but I think we can ensure that it's open and inclusive, and we always welcome new volunteers! Our Meetups are typically evening events adjacent to the main conference, and are free of charge to attendees (whether or not they're registered for the conference.) We'd be more than happy to welcome the whole FLOSS-Office ecosystem, I'm sure. However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I'll be at OSCON and would be pleased to help with this, sure. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. D
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:08, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: ... However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I'll be at OSCON and would be pleased to help with this, sure. Great idea. Like Simon, I'll be at OSCON and would be happy to meet with people! Cheers, -g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Awesome, thanks! Like many on this list, I'll be at OSCON; while we won't catch everyone at any one event, I think it's worth hitting the big ones if we can :-) N - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S.
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Hi, no matter how the current discussion about OOo at Apache turns out, I'd be happy to meet with people. I most probably won't be able to make it to the US, but I'm on a few conferences in Europe, and surely will attend LibreOffice Conference in Paris. Despite that the current discussion maybe was (or still is) a bit heavy, I guess that's normal given what we are discussing about, so meeting people face to face and everybody seeing that, after all, we're all humans and can have a good time together over a beer, would be great. Thanks for the good proposal, Simon! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Well...we were thinking about adding a track at http://www.transfersummit.com/BarCamp which is in Europe...at least. D On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S.
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:08, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: ... However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I'll be at OSCON and would be pleased to help with this, sure. Great idea. Like Simon, I'll be at OSCON and would be happy to meet with people! I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would like to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there would be an useful exchange. Cheers, -g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S. I've requested a space at Open World Forum too. S.
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:08, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: ... However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I'll be at OSCON and would be pleased to help with this, sure. Great idea. Like Simon, I'll be at OSCON and would be happy to meet with people! I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would like to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there would be an useful exchange. More than zero is better than we have so far :-) Cheers, -g ps. actually, I've hung out with Simon many times, and have met Michael before. I'm always up for meeting more! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S. I've requested a space at Open World Forum too. S. I actually was thinking more on attending to Desktop Summit this year: https://www.desktopsummit.org/ Thinking LO/OOo is a more desktop oriented app, would make sense to have some participation. Too bad this time the outreach was as strong as the first year with Mozilla. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Hi, Le 6 juin 11 à 20:21, Greg Stein a écrit : On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would like to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there would be an useful exchange. More than zero is better than we have so far :-) Alexandro isnot joking, and pointed a big issue : there will be nobody from OOo represented (I mean the one who put their names on the wiki) Words are missing me (sorry, I'm not a native speaker), but there is something wrong ... Regards, Eric Bachard -- qɔᴉɹə Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Eric (and all), We're only just starting to discuss this...Once we decide on a few venues for meetings...we'll start wiki pages for signups so people can say whether they'll be there. Danese On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:31 AM, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 6 juin 11 à 20:21, Greg Stein a écrit : On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would like to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there would be an useful exchange. More than zero is better than we have so far :-) Alexandro isnot joking, and pointed a big issue : there will be nobody from OOo represented (I mean the one who put their names on the wiki) Words are missing me (sorry, I'm not a native speaker), but there is something wrong ... Regards, Eric Bachard -- qɔᴉɹə Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote on 06/06/2011 02:34:30 PM: From: Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: 06/06/2011 02:35 PM Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal Eric (and all), We're only just starting to discuss this...Once we decide on a few venues for meetings...we'll start wiki pages for signups so people can say whether they'll be there. Please include the ODF Plug-fest in Berlin, July 14-15 as a candidate[1] Danese On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:31 AM, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 6 juin 11 à 20:21, Greg Stein a écrit : On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would like to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there would be an useful exchange. More than zero is better than we have so far :-) Alexandro isnot joking, and pointed a big issue : there will be nobody from OOo represented (I mean the one who put their names on the wiki) Words are missing me (sorry, I'm not a native speaker), but there is something wrong ... Regards, Eric Bachard -- q Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news [1]http://tinyurl.com/62gh4yx
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:31, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 6 juin 11 à 20:21, Greg Stein a écrit : On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would like to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there would be an useful exchange. More than zero is better than we have so far :-) Alexandro isnot joking, and pointed a big issue : there will be nobody from OOo represented (I mean the one who put their names on the wiki) Words are missing me (sorry, I'm not a native speaker), but there is something wrong ... Oh, I agree that having lots of people meet up is best. But I also believe that just *two* people meeting is better than nothing. Critical mass is great, but I think a lot of people miss the benefit of a simple meeting between a couple meeting. For example, if you and I met for lunch... wouldn't that be good? In some respects, getting 50 people into a room together may be shooting yourself in the foot. If I wanted to spend 5 minutes with each other person in the room, that would take over 4 hours!! I would much rather spend an hour sharing beers with three people, than three minutes each with 50 people. Cheers, -g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 15:04, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success. Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust. Right. And we can also be optimistic that the Incubator will vote the podling in. And optimistic that we'd have something to talk about. Really... nobody is talking about any kind of meetup before mid-July, so there is time. Worst case? Podling doesn't get started, and we just don't meet up. Not a big deal. But to get the ball rolling... yah. Let's try now. Cheers, -g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 15:04, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success. Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust. Right. And we can also be optimistic that the Incubator will vote the podling in. And optimistic that we'd have something to talk about. Really... nobody is talking about any kind of meetup before mid-July, so there is time. Worst case? Podling doesn't get started, and we just don't meet up. Not a big deal. But to get the ball rolling... yah. Let's try now. In the event it doesn't get started (and I sincerely hope it does) it will be even more important for the OpenOffice.org community-at-large to come together to work out what happens next. So I figure we need these meetings regardless, unless we all want the future devised in closed rooms by corporate politicians... S.
Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Hi, Am 06.06.2011 21:07, schrieb Sophie Gautier: Hi, On 06/06/2011 21:21, Alexandro Colorado wrote: [...] Thinking LO/OOo is a more desktop oriented app, would make sense to have some participation. Too bad this time the outreach was as strong as the first year with Mozilla. No difficult for several of us to attend and be there, will be pleased to meet our friends from the other projects, as usual. Berlin is not that far for me - so even if I would not be visiting the desktop summit, it's quite easy for me to join for an evening (or a weekend). regards, André - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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Some of us in the region can probably find our way to Portland, Oregon, but OSCON doesn't fit an open-source budget [;). Could there be a venue where it is not necessary to register for OSCON to be able to participate? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:20 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S. I've requested a space at Open World Forum too. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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Dennis, If we do a meeting at OSCON, it would be in the tutorial days, which don't have a fee. Danese On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Some of us in the region can probably find our way to Portland, Oregon, but OSCON doesn't fit an open-source budget [;). Could there be a venue where it is not necessary to register for OSCON to be able to participate? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:20 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S. I've requested a space at Open World Forum too. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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Don Harbison Program Director, IBM ODF Initiative Tel. +1-978-399-7018 Mobile: +1-978-761-0116 Email: donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/06/2011 03:18:11 PM: From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: 06/06/2011 03:19 PM Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 15:04, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success. Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust. Right. And we can also be optimistic that the Incubator will vote the podling in. And optimistic that we'd have something to talk about. Really... nobody is talking about any kind of meetup before mid-July, so there is time. Worst case? Podling doesn't get started, and we just don't meet up. Not a big deal. But to get the ball rolling... yah. Let's try now. In the event it doesn't get started (and I sincerely hope it does) it will be even more important for the OpenOffice.org community-at-large to come together to work out what happens next. So I figure we need these meetings regardless, unless we all want the future devised in closed rooms by corporate politicians... I thought the purpose of this thread was to move forward. S. /don
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André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net wrote on 06/06/2011 03:23:30 PM: From: André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: 06/06/2011 03:24 PM Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal Hi, Am 06.06.2011 21:07, schrieb Sophie Gautier: Hi, On 06/06/2011 21:21, Alexandro Colorado wrote: [...] Thinking LO/OOo is a more desktop oriented app, would make sense to have some participation. Too bad this time the outreach was as strong as the first year with Mozilla. No difficult for several of us to attend and be there, will be pleased to meet our friends from the other projects, as usual. Berlin is not that far for me - so even if I would not be visiting the desktop summit, it's quite easy for me to join for an evening (or a weekend). Perhaps we can discuss a meetup with the organiser of the 6th ODF Plug-fest in Berlin, July 14-15[1] regards, André - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org [1]http://tinyurl.com/3h2jjqo
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:49 PM, donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com wrote: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/06/2011 03:18:11 PM: From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: 06/06/2011 03:19 PM Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 15:04, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success. Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust. Right. And we can also be optimistic that the Incubator will vote the podling in. And optimistic that we'd have something to talk about. Really... nobody is talking about any kind of meetup before mid-July, so there is time. Worst case? Podling doesn't get started, and we just don't meet up. Not a big deal. But to get the ball rolling... yah. Let's try now. In the event it doesn't get started (and I sincerely hope it does) it will be even more important for the OpenOffice.org community-at-large to come together to work out what happens next. So I figure we need these meetings regardless, unless we all want the future devised in closed rooms by corporate politicians... I thought the purpose of this thread was to move forward. S. /don I don't get your point, Don? Are you saying you disagree that community summits are worth holding regardless of the outcome of the Apache activity? S.
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I've created a wiki page for us to co-ordinate who can attend what where. Do please edit at will, there are no rules and I am sure I made lots of mistakes :-) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OOoCommunitySummit S.
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Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's $25 thereafter. This also opens up the evening events Mon-Fri, which, if you're going to find yourself in Portland that week, might be fun to attend :-) Noirin On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Some of us in the region can probably find our way to Portland, Oregon, but OSCON doesn't fit an open-source budget [;). Could there be a venue where it is not necessary to register for OSCON to be able to participate? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:20 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S. I've requested a space at Open World Forum too. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/06/2011 03:54:23 PM: From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: 06/06/2011 03:55 PM Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:49 PM, donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com wrote: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/06/2011 03:18:11 PM: From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: 06/06/2011 03:19 PM Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 15:04, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success. Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust. Right. And we can also be optimistic that the Incubator will vote the podling in. And optimistic that we'd have something to talk about. Really... nobody is talking about any kind of meetup before mid-July, so there is time. Worst case? Podling doesn't get started, and we just don't meet up. Not a big deal. But to get the ball rolling... yah. Let's try now. In the event it doesn't get started (and I sincerely hope it does) it will be even more important for the OpenOffice.org community-at-large to come together to work out what happens next. So I figure we need these meetings regardless, unless we all want the future devised in closed rooms by corporate politicians... I thought the purpose of this thread was to move forward. S. /don I don't get your point, Don? Are you saying you disagree that community summits are worth holding regardless of the outcome of the Apache activity? Quite the contrary. It's great that we're teaming up on this proposal. Let's all get behind it. Just didn't see the comment about 'unless we all want the future devised in closed rooms by corporate politicians...particularly positive and forward looking Probably a particular brand of humor, but with so many non-native speakers on list it seems backwards-facing. no biggie. S. /don
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nóirín Plunkett noi...@apache.org wrote: Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's $25 thereafter. This also opens up the evening events Mon-Fri, which, if you're going to find yourself in Portland that week, might be fun to attend :-) Noirin Drew Jensen probably have better knowlledge of the more community focus events across the US. Specially the Linuxfests. They usually have a more open source crowd (with open source budgets). I heard the Ohio Linuxfest is one of the most recognized ones. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Some of us in the region can probably find our way to Portland, Oregon, but OSCON doesn't fit an open-source budget [;). Could there be a venue where it is not necessary to register for OSCON to be able to participate? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:20 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S. I've requested a space at Open World Forum too. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.orgwrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nóirín Plunkett noi...@apache.org wrote: Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's $25 thereafter. This also opens up the evening events Mon-Fri, which, if you're going to find yourself in Portland that week, might be fun to attend :-) Noirin Drew Jensen probably have better knowlledge of the more community focus events across the US. Specially the Linuxfests. They usually have a more open source crowd (with open source budgets). I heard the Ohio Linuxfest is one of the most recognized ones. Do please add ebents (and yourselves) to: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OOoCommunitySummit S.
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On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:35 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.orgwrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nóirín Plunkett noi...@apache.org wrote: Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's $25 thereafter. This also opens up the evening events Mon-Fri, which, if you're going to find yourself in Portland that week, might be fun to attend :-) Noirin Drew Jensen probably have better knowlledge of the more community focus events across the US. Specially the Linuxfests. They usually have a more open source crowd (with open source budgets). I heard the Ohio Linuxfest is one of the most recognized ones. Do please add ebents (and yourselves) to: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OOoCommunitySummit Hi Simon, Thanks for starting that page - and to the others for starting this line of discussion. Quick note: I'll be staffing the TDF/LibreOffice table at SELF (Southeast Linux Fest) in Spartanburg, South Carolina this coming weekend. I expect that some of the Ohio Linux-fest (Sept. 9-11) organizers will be in attendance, so i could touch base with them directly. As for Ohio, I am already planning on attending, Andrew Pitonyak (most of the OO.o should recognize his name) has even offered to put myself and Joyce up in his guest room. There are a few other OO.o folks in the immediate area there, so I would guess if it as a case of coordinating a hosting staff the bodies could be assembled. otherwise, will update the wiki page. Thanks Drew Jensen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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As for Ohio, I am already planning on attending, I happen to be keynoting at OLF this year...purely coincidence. Happy to host a BOF about the Apache Way there if it would help. Danese
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Drew, Quick note: I'll be staffing the TDF/LibreOffice table at SELF (Southeast Linux Fest) in Spartanburg, South Carolina this coming weekend. I can't make it for this weekend, but keep me in mind for future, local, activities. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 16:59 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Drew, Quick note: I'll be staffing the TDF/LibreOffice table at SELF (Southeast Linux Fest) in Spartanburg, South Carolina this coming weekend. I can't make it for this weekend, but keep me in mind for future, local, activities. :-) Consider yourself drafted - details to be worked out later.. //drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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On 06/06/2011 19:17, Danese Cooper wrote: Well...we were thinking about adding a track at http://www.transfersummit.com/BarCamp which is in Europe...at least. Actually there are two separate events we are considering here, a Barcamp and the conference itself. I'm talking to the organisers now. (it seems with all the possibles we will get a certainty pretty quickly) Ross D On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simon Phippssi...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooperdan...@gmail.com wrote: However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many of TDF's members are in Europe...we need to find venues there. Not many big events in Europe before the end of August :-) I can probably get us space at OWF in Paris, 22-24 September (I am on the programme committee) if that's interesting, but it's only a month before LibreOfficeCon. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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I understand that it could be difficult for you to come to Brazil on the next month, but we'll have here the biggest Free Software event in South America, the FISL (http://softwarelivre.org/fisl12?lang=en). I know that some of you were at FISL in past years, and maybe someone will attend the event in this year. I'll be there and if we have some of you here in Brazil too, we may find some room on the event to discuss the themes proposed here with the Brazilian community (and anyone else that would like to join us). You may already know that Brazil has a huge and active LO/OO community and we estimate that we have millions of LO/OO users in Brazil (just to give you a clear idea about that, the users commited to use ODF just inside government is estimated in 3 million). Best, Jomar Silva - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
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Add it to the wiki, Jomar! I'll be there for sure. S. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Jomar Silva (Cuca) homem...@gmail.comwrote: I understand that it could be difficult for you to come to Brazil on the next month, but we'll have here the biggest Free Software event in South America, the FISL (http://softwarelivre.org/fisl12?lang=en). I know that some of you were at FISL in past years, and maybe someone will attend the event in this year. I'll be there and if we have some of you here in Brazil too, we may find some room on the event to discuss the themes proposed here with the Brazilian community (and anyone else that would like to join us). You may already know that Brazil has a huge and active LO/OO community and we estimate that we have millions of LO/OO users in Brazil (just to give you a clear idea about that, the users commited to use ODF just inside government is estimated in 3 million). Best, Jomar Silva - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Simon Phipps +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com
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I'll be there (I live in Portland by the way). I did some development for GoOO/LibreOffice in the past but I don't have much time lately to do so. So now I mainly do a little 'marketing' in the Pacific NorthWest for LibreOffice. In fact, I was planning on doing some 'marketing' at OSCON and possibly setting up a BoF session. Maybe we can have one for meeting up and discussing things further. Dona Hertel - coco...@mailbolt.com On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 13:18 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:08, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: ... However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? I'll be at OSCON and would be pleased to help with this, sure. Great idea. Like Simon, I'll be at OSCON and would be happy to meet with people! I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would like to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there would be an useful exchange. Cheers, -g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
