Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Thanks all for the valuable feedback and suggestions. IIUC, there are still some actions Paimon PPMC should take (such as removing the "Founder of Paimon" description on the internet as much as possible, which is actively in progress), but no blocker for graduation. Therefore, I plan to start the vote for graduation in a few hours, and please let me know if there are any objections. Thanks. Best Regards, Yu On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 13:08, Jingsong Li wrote: > > Thanks sebb for your review. > > > By the way, the Incubation disclaimer should have been present on all pages > > (not just the main ones). Probably too late for that now, but if graduation > > fails it should be fixed. > > We have added Incubation disclaimer to all pages including documentation. > > > Also, there is no way back to the main page from the doc/ pages. > > We will improve it later. > > Best, > Jingsong > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 7:50 PM sebb wrote: > > > > Thanks, that looks better. > > > > === > > > > By the way, the Incubation disclaimer should have been present on all > > pages (not just the main ones). > > Probably too late for that now, but if graduation fails it should be fixed. > > > > Also, there is no way back to the main page from the doc/ pages. > > Not a blocker for graduation, but it does make the site harder to navigate. > > > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 10:15, Jingsong Li wrote: > > > > > > Thanks sebb. > > > > > > Learn a lot. > > > - tar link should use closer.lua. > > > - digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > > > > > > I have updated: > > > https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > > > > > > Best, > > > Jingsong > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:02 PM sebb wrote: > > > > > > > > I've just noticed that the download page tar links are not correct > > > > after all. > > > > > > > > They must use closer.lua, but they don't. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 08:42, sebb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for attending to this promptly. > > > > > > > > > > Page looks good now. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 04:43, Jingsong Li > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi sebb, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your check. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have updated the website: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > > > > > > (You may need to refresh to see the latest page) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. [done] the digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > > > > > > 2. [done] information on how to use the digests. > > > > > > 3. [done] The download page should not link to GitHub commits; they > > > > > > are not official releases. > > > > > > 4. [done] Releases that are no longer maintained should be removed > > > > > > from downloads.a.o. They can still be linked from the archives. > > > > > > 5. [done] It should be obvious which release(s) are currently > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Jingsong > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jingsong Li > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Justin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will deny and explain as soon as possible, and I will inform > > > > > > > the PPMC members of the Paimon community offline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs > > > > > > > > a project not a company > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will contact the author of this article to inform him that this > > > > > > > inaccurate statement should not be used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > Jingsong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Justin Mclean > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed > > > > > > > > chair as “the founder of Paimon”. While this person may have > > > > > > > > come up with the initial design before it was an Apache > > > > > > > > project, the project is run by the community. Please do not > > > > > > > > refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. I have > > > > > > > > noticed this language used in other places as well e.g. [1] > > > > > > > > Also stating an Apache project is from a company e.g " from > > > > > > > > Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a > > > > > > > > project not a company. If possible the PPMC should look into > > > > > > > > getting this corrected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > > > > > > > > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Thanks sebb for your review. > By the way, the Incubation disclaimer should have been present on all pages > (not just the main ones). Probably too late for that now, but if graduation > fails it should be fixed. We have added Incubation disclaimer to all pages including documentation. > Also, there is no way back to the main page from the doc/ pages. We will improve it later. Best, Jingsong On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 7:50 PM sebb wrote: > > Thanks, that looks better. > > === > > By the way, the Incubation disclaimer should have been present on all > pages (not just the main ones). > Probably too late for that now, but if graduation fails it should be fixed. > > Also, there is no way back to the main page from the doc/ pages. > Not a blocker for graduation, but it does make the site harder to navigate. > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 10:15, Jingsong Li wrote: > > > > Thanks sebb. > > > > Learn a lot. > > - tar link should use closer.lua. > > - digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > > > > I have updated: > > https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > > > > Best, > > Jingsong > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:02 PM sebb wrote: > > > > > > I've just noticed that the download page tar links are not correct after > > > all. > > > > > > They must use closer.lua, but they don't. > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 08:42, sebb wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for attending to this promptly. > > > > > > > > Page looks good now. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 04:43, Jingsong Li wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi sebb, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your check. > > > > > > > > > > I have updated the website: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > > > > > (You may need to refresh to see the latest page) > > > > > > > > > > 1. [done] the digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > > > > > 2. [done] information on how to use the digests. > > > > > 3. [done] The download page should not link to GitHub commits; they > > > > > are not official releases. > > > > > 4. [done] Releases that are no longer maintained should be removed > > > > > from downloads.a.o. They can still be linked from the archives. > > > > > 5. [done] It should be obvious which release(s) are currently > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Jingsong > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jingsong Li > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Justin, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will deny and explain as soon as possible, and I will inform the > > > > > > PPMC members of the Paimon community offline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a > > > > > > > project not a company > > > > > > > > > > > > I will contact the author of this article to inform him that this > > > > > > inaccurate statement should not be used. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Jingsong > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Justin Mclean > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair > > > > > > > as “the founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up > > > > > > > with the initial design before it was an Apache project, the > > > > > > > project is run by the community. Please do not refer to anyone as > > > > > > > a founder of an Apache project. I have noticed this language used > > > > > > > in other places as well e.g. [1] Also stating an Apache project > > > > > > > is from a company e.g " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, > > > > > > > again the community runs a project not a company. If possible the > > > > > > > PPMC should look into getting this corrected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > > > > > > > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail:
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Thanks, that looks better. === By the way, the Incubation disclaimer should have been present on all pages (not just the main ones). Probably too late for that now, but if graduation fails it should be fixed. Also, there is no way back to the main page from the doc/ pages. Not a blocker for graduation, but it does make the site harder to navigate. On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 10:15, Jingsong Li wrote: > > Thanks sebb. > > Learn a lot. > - tar link should use closer.lua. > - digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > > I have updated: > https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > > Best, > Jingsong > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:02 PM sebb wrote: > > > > I've just noticed that the download page tar links are not correct after > > all. > > > > They must use closer.lua, but they don't. > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 08:42, sebb wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for attending to this promptly. > > > > > > Page looks good now. > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 04:43, Jingsong Li wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi sebb, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your check. > > > > > > > > I have updated the website: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > > > > (You may need to refresh to see the latest page) > > > > > > > > 1. [done] the digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > > > > 2. [done] information on how to use the digests. > > > > 3. [done] The download page should not link to GitHub commits; they > > > > are not official releases. > > > > 4. [done] Releases that are no longer maintained should be removed > > > > from downloads.a.o. They can still be linked from the archives. > > > > 5. [done] It should be obvious which release(s) are currently > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Jingsong > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jingsong Li > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Justin, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. > > > > > > > > > > I will deny and explain as soon as possible, and I will inform the > > > > > PPMC members of the Paimon community offline. > > > > > > > > > > > " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a > > > > > > project not a company > > > > > > > > > > I will contact the author of this article to inform him that this > > > > > inaccurate statement should not be used. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Jingsong > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Justin Mclean > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair > > > > > > as “the founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up with > > > > > > the initial design before it was an Apache project, the project is > > > > > > run by the community. Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of > > > > > > an Apache project. I have noticed this language used in other > > > > > > places as well e.g. [1] Also stating an Apache project is from a > > > > > > company e.g " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the > > > > > > community runs a project not a company. If possible the PPMC should > > > > > > look into getting this corrected. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > > > > > > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > > > > > > - > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Thanks sebb. Learn a lot. - tar link should use closer.lua. - digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org I have updated: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ Best, Jingsong On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:02 PM sebb wrote: > > I've just noticed that the download page tar links are not correct after all. > > They must use closer.lua, but they don't. > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 08:42, sebb wrote: > > > > Thanks for attending to this promptly. > > > > Page looks good now. > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 04:43, Jingsong Li wrote: > > > > > > Hi sebb, > > > > > > Thanks for your check. > > > > > > I have updated the website: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > > > (You may need to refresh to see the latest page) > > > > > > 1. [done] the digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > > > 2. [done] information on how to use the digests. > > > 3. [done] The download page should not link to GitHub commits; they > > > are not official releases. > > > 4. [done] Releases that are no longer maintained should be removed > > > from downloads.a.o. They can still be linked from the archives. > > > 5. [done] It should be obvious which release(s) are currently recommended > > > > > > Best, > > > Jingsong > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jingsong Li > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Justin, > > > > > > > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > > > > > > > > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. > > > > > > > > I will deny and explain as soon as possible, and I will inform the PPMC > > > > members of the Paimon community offline. > > > > > > > > > " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a > > > > > project not a company > > > > > > > > I will contact the author of this article to inform him that this > > > > inaccurate statement should not be used. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Jingsong > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Justin Mclean > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair as > > > > > “the founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up with the > > > > > initial design before it was an Apache project, the project is run by > > > > > the community. Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an > > > > > Apache project. I have noticed this language used in other places as > > > > > well e.g. [1] Also stating an Apache project is from a company e.g " > > > > > from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a > > > > > project not a company. If possible the PPMC should look into getting > > > > > this corrected. > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > > > > > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
I've just noticed that the download page tar links are not correct after all. They must use closer.lua, but they don't. On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 08:42, sebb wrote: > > Thanks for attending to this promptly. > > Page looks good now. > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 04:43, Jingsong Li wrote: > > > > Hi sebb, > > > > Thanks for your check. > > > > I have updated the website: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > > (You may need to refresh to see the latest page) > > > > 1. [done] the digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > > 2. [done] information on how to use the digests. > > 3. [done] The download page should not link to GitHub commits; they > > are not official releases. > > 4. [done] Releases that are no longer maintained should be removed > > from downloads.a.o. They can still be linked from the archives. > > 5. [done] It should be obvious which release(s) are currently recommended > > > > Best, > > Jingsong > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jingsong Li wrote: > > > > > > Hi Justin, > > > > > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > > > > > > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. > > > > > > I will deny and explain as soon as possible, and I will inform the PPMC > > > members of the Paimon community offline. > > > > > > > " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a > > > > project not a company > > > > > > I will contact the author of this article to inform him that this > > > inaccurate statement should not be used. > > > > > > Best, > > > Jingsong > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Justin Mclean > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair as > > > > “the founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up with the > > > > initial design before it was an Apache project, the project is run by > > > > the community. Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache > > > > project. I have noticed this language used in other places as well e.g. > > > > [1] Also stating an Apache project is from a company e.g " from > > > > Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a project not > > > > a company. If possible the PPMC should look into getting this corrected. > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > > > > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Thanks for attending to this promptly. Page looks good now. On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 04:43, Jingsong Li wrote: > > Hi sebb, > > Thanks for your check. > > I have updated the website: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ > (You may need to refresh to see the latest page) > > 1. [done] the digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org > 2. [done] information on how to use the digests. > 3. [done] The download page should not link to GitHub commits; they > are not official releases. > 4. [done] Releases that are no longer maintained should be removed > from downloads.a.o. They can still be linked from the archives. > 5. [done] It should be obvious which release(s) are currently recommended > > Best, > Jingsong > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jingsong Li wrote: > > > > Hi Justin, > > > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > > > > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. > > > > I will deny and explain as soon as possible, and I will inform the PPMC > > members of the Paimon community offline. > > > > > " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a project > > > not a company > > > > I will contact the author of this article to inform him that this > > inaccurate statement should not be used. > > > > Best, > > Jingsong > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Justin Mclean > > wrote: > > > > > > HI, > > > > > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair as “the > > > founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up with the initial > > > design before it was an Apache project, the project is run by the > > > community. Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache > > > project. I have noticed this language used in other places as well e.g. > > > [1] Also stating an Apache project is from a company e.g " from > > > Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a project not a > > > company. If possible the PPMC should look into getting this corrected. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Justin > > > > > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > > > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Will do, and try our best to do necessary corrections. Best Regards, Yu On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 14:19, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > Thanks for pointing this out Justin. The description of the first > > mentioned vedio (a CoC Asia talk) [1] has been updated (thanks @Willem > > for the help), and PPMC is actively working on correcting the second > > one. > > Those two links were only some of the instances I found. I suggest you do > some Google searches to find more. > > Kind Regards, > Justin > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Hi, > Thanks for pointing this out Justin. The description of the first > mentioned vedio (a CoC Asia talk) [1] has been updated (thanks @Willem > for the help), and PPMC is actively working on correcting the second > one. Those two links were only some of the instances I found. I suggest you do some Google searches to find more. Kind Regards, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
> If possible the PPMC should look into getting this corrected. Thanks for pointing this out Justin. The description of the first mentioned vedio (a CoC Asia talk) [1] has been updated (thanks @Willem for the help), and PPMC is actively working on correcting the second one. Best Regards, Yu [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 09:06, Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair as “the > founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up with the initial > design before it was an Apache project, the project is run by the community. > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. I have > noticed this language used in other places as well e.g. [1] Also stating an > Apache project is from a company e.g " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, > again the community runs a project not a company. If possible the PPMC should > look into getting this corrected. > > Kind Regards, > Justin > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Hi sebb, Thanks for your check. I have updated the website: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ (You may need to refresh to see the latest page) 1. [done] the digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org 2. [done] information on how to use the digests. 3. [done] The download page should not link to GitHub commits; they are not official releases. 4. [done] Releases that are no longer maintained should be removed from downloads.a.o. They can still be linked from the archives. 5. [done] It should be obvious which release(s) are currently recommended Best, Jingsong On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jingsong Li wrote: > > Hi Justin, > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. > > I will deny and explain as soon as possible, and I will inform the PPMC > members of the Paimon community offline. > > > " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a project > > not a company > > I will contact the author of this article to inform him that this inaccurate > statement should not be used. > > Best, > Jingsong > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > > > HI, > > > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair as “the > > founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up with the initial > > design before it was an Apache project, the project is run by the > > community. Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. > > I have noticed this language used in other places as well e.g. [1] Also > > stating an Apache project is from a company e.g " from Ververica” [2] is > > not accurate, again the community runs a project not a company. If possible > > the PPMC should look into getting this corrected. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Justin > > > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
Hi Justin, Thank you for pointing it out. > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. I will deny and explain as soon as possible, and I will inform the PPMC members of the Paimon community offline. > " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a project not > a company I will contact the author of this article to inform him that this inaccurate statement should not be used. Best, Jingsong On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:06 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > > In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair as “the > founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up with the initial > design before it was an Apache project, the project is run by the community. > Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. I have > noticed this language used in other places as well e.g. [1] Also stating an > Apache project is from a company e.g " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, > again the community runs a project not a company. If possible the PPMC should > look into getting this corrected. > > Kind Regards, > Justin > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
HI, In your discussion on graduation, you refer to the proposed chair as “the founder of Paimon”. While this person may have come up with the initial design before it was an Apache project, the project is run by the community. Please do not refer to anyone as a founder of an Apache project. I have noticed this language used in other places as well e.g. [1] Also stating an Apache project is from a company e.g " from Ververica” [2] is not accurate, again the community runs a project not a company. If possible the PPMC should look into getting this corrected. Kind Regards, Justin 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRuYgtbzrQ 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cD7eFzaNew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
There are some issues with the download page: https://paimon.apache.org/downloads/ The tar links are fine, but the digest and pgp links must use downloads.apache.org, not dlcdn. There is no information on how to use the digests. The download page should not link to GitHub commits; they are not official releases. Such links should be limited to pages aimed at developers, not the general public. Releases that are no longer maintained should be removed from downloads.a.o. They can still be linked from the archives. It should be obvious which release(s) are currently recommended. That is not clear from the page. See https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 07:41, yu zelin wrote: > > +1 (non-binding) > > Thanks for driving it! I’m looking forward to the graduation of Paimon. > > Best Regards, > Zelin Yu > > > 2024年3月5日 14:56，Yu Li 写道： > > > > Hi All, > > > > About one year ago, we started the discussion to donate Flink Table > > Store, a sub-project of Apache Flink developed for one year, into the > > incubator as Apache Paimon, with the purpose to build a more vibrant > > and neutral community [1] [2]. Since then, with the help of the > > incubator, we've made significant progress and achieved more than we > > expected for incubation. Today, besides Flink, Paimon has native > > support for many other engines such as Spark and Hive, and becomes a > > really diverse community. > > > > Recently, after thorough discussions [3] [4], the community has voted > > [5] that we would like to proceed with graduation [6]. Furthermore, > > we'd like to call upon the Incubator PMC to review and discuss our > > progress and would appreciate any and all feedback towards graduation. > > > > Below are some facts and project highlights from the incubation phase > > as well as the draft resolution: > > > > - Currently, our community consists of 18 committers (including > > mentors) from ~10 different companies, with 11 serving as PPMC members > > [7]. > > - So far, we have boasted 132 contributors. > > - Throughout the incubation period, we've made 5 releases [2] in 12 > > months, at a stable pace. > > - We've had 3 different release managers to date. > > - Our software is used in production by 20+ well known entities [8]. > > - As yet, we have opened 1,363 issues with 1,083 successfully resolved > > [9] [10], including the period as a sub-project of Apache Flink. > > - We have submitted a total of 2,166 PRs, out of which 2,091 have been > > merged or closed [11]. > > - Through self-assessment [12], we have met all maturity criteria as > > outlined in [13]. > > > > We've resolved all branding issues which include Logo, GitHub repo, > > document, website, and others [14] [15]. > > > > We'd also like to take this opportunity to extend a sincere thank you > > to our mentors, for their invaluable insight and assistance with > > getting us to this point. > > > > Thanks a lot, Becket Qin, Robert Metzger, Stephan Ewen and Yu Li! > > > > --- > > > > Establish the Apache Paimon Project > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > related to a unified lake storage to build dynamic tables for both > > stream and batch processing with big data compute engines, supporting > > high-speed data ingestion and real-time data query. > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Paimon Project", be and hereby is > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Paimon Project be and hereby is responsible > > for the creation and maintenance of software related to a unified lake > > storage to build dynamic tables for both stream and batch processing > > with big data compute engines, supporting high-speed data ingestion and > > real-time data query; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Paimon" be and > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Paimon > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Paimon > > Project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Paimon Project: > > > > * Becket Qin > > * Caizhi Weng > > * Fang Yong > > * Feng Wang > > * Jingsong Lee > > * Nicholas Jiang > > * Robert Metzger > > * Stephan Ewen > > * Timo Walther > > * Yann Byron (Bi Yan) > > * Yu Li > > * Zelin Yu > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
+1 (non-binding) Thanks for driving it! I’m looking forward to the graduation of Paimon. Best Regards, Zelin Yu > 2024年3月5日 14:56，Yu Li 写道： > > Hi All, > > About one year ago, we started the discussion to donate Flink Table > Store, a sub-project of Apache Flink developed for one year, into the > incubator as Apache Paimon, with the purpose to build a more vibrant > and neutral community [1] [2]. Since then, with the help of the > incubator, we've made significant progress and achieved more than we > expected for incubation. Today, besides Flink, Paimon has native > support for many other engines such as Spark and Hive, and becomes a > really diverse community. > > Recently, after thorough discussions [3] [4], the community has voted > [5] that we would like to proceed with graduation [6]. Furthermore, > we'd like to call upon the Incubator PMC to review and discuss our > progress and would appreciate any and all feedback towards graduation. > > Below are some facts and project highlights from the incubation phase > as well as the draft resolution: > > - Currently, our community consists of 18 committers (including > mentors) from ~10 different companies, with 11 serving as PPMC members > [7]. > - So far, we have boasted 132 contributors. > - Throughout the incubation period, we've made 5 releases [2] in 12 > months, at a stable pace. > - We've had 3 different release managers to date. > - Our software is used in production by 20+ well known entities [8]. > - As yet, we have opened 1,363 issues with 1,083 successfully resolved > [9] [10], including the period as a sub-project of Apache Flink. > - We have submitted a total of 2,166 PRs, out of which 2,091 have been > merged or closed [11]. > - Through self-assessment [12], we have met all maturity criteria as > outlined in [13]. > > We've resolved all branding issues which include Logo, GitHub repo, > document, website, and others [14] [15]. > > We'd also like to take this opportunity to extend a sincere thank you > to our mentors, for their invaluable insight and assistance with > getting us to this point. > > Thanks a lot, Becket Qin, Robert Metzger, Stephan Ewen and Yu Li! > > --- > > Establish the Apache Paimon Project > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > related to a unified lake storage to build dynamic tables for both > stream and batch processing with big data compute engines, supporting > high-speed data ingestion and real-time data query. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Paimon Project", be and hereby is > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Paimon Project be and hereby is responsible > for the creation and maintenance of software related to a unified lake > storage to build dynamic tables for both stream and batch processing > with big data compute engines, supporting high-speed data ingestion and > real-time data query; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Paimon" be and > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Paimon > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Paimon > Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Paimon Project: > > * Becket Qin > * Caizhi Weng > * Fang Yong > * Feng Wang > * Jingsong Lee > * Nicholas Jiang > * Robert Metzger > * Stephan Ewen > * Timo Walther > * Yann Byron (Bi Yan) > * Yu Li > * Zelin Yu > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jingsong Lee be appointed > to the office of Vice President, Apache Paimon, to serve in accordance > with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the > Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it > further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Paimon Project be and hereby is tasked with > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Paimon > podling; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator > Paimon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter > discharged. > > --- > > Best Regards, > Yu (on behalf of the Apache Paimon PPMC) > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/hr3d7tpw02w6ybrnnlf3hcbhfxotwpvn > [2]
Re:[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Paimon (Incubating) as a Top Level Project
+1 (non-binding) Forward to graduation of Paimon. Regards,Nicholas Jiang At 2024-03-05 14:56:10, "Yu Li" wrote: >Hi All, > >About one year ago, we started the discussion to donate Flink Table >Store, a sub-project of Apache Flink developed for one year, into the >incubator as Apache Paimon, with the purpose to build a more vibrant >and neutral community [1] [2]. Since then, with the help of the >incubator, we've made significant progress and achieved more than we >expected for incubation. Today, besides Flink, Paimon has native >support for many other engines such as Spark and Hive, and becomes a >really diverse community. > >Recently, after thorough discussions [3] [4], the community has voted >[5] that we would like to proceed with graduation [6]. Furthermore, >we'd like to call upon the Incubator PMC to review and discuss our >progress and would appreciate any and all feedback towards graduation. > >Below are some facts and project highlights from the incubation phase >as well as the draft resolution: > >- Currently, our community consists of 18 committers (including >mentors) from ~10 different companies, with 11 serving as PPMC members >[7]. >- So far, we have boasted 132 contributors. >- Throughout the incubation period, we've made 5 releases [2] in 12 >months, at a stable pace. >- We've had 3 different release managers to date. >- Our software is used in production by 20+ well known entities [8]. >- As yet, we have opened 1,363 issues with 1,083 successfully resolved >[9] [10], including the period as a sub-project of Apache Flink. >- We have submitted a total of 2,166 PRs, out of which 2,091 have been >merged or closed [11]. >- Through self-assessment [12], we have met all maturity criteria as >outlined in [13]. > >We've resolved all branding issues which include Logo, GitHub repo, >document, website, and others [14] [15]. > >We'd also like to take this opportunity to extend a sincere thank you >to our mentors, for their invaluable insight and assistance with >getting us to this point. > >Thanks a lot, Becket Qin, Robert Metzger, Stephan Ewen and Yu Li! > >--- > >Establish the Apache Paimon Project > >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of >the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish >a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance >of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, >related to a unified lake storage to build dynamic tables for both >stream and batch processing with big data compute engines, supporting >high-speed data ingestion and real-time data query. > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee >(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Paimon Project", be and hereby is >established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the Apache Paimon Project be and hereby is responsible >for the creation and maintenance of software related to a unified lake >storage to build dynamic tables for both stream and batch processing >with big data compute engines, supporting high-speed data ingestion and >real-time data query; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Paimon" be and >hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the >direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Paimon >Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the >projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Paimon >Project; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are >appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Paimon Project: > >* Becket Qin >* Caizhi Weng >* Fang Yong >* Feng Wang >* Jingsong Lee >* Nicholas Jiang >* Robert Metzger >* Stephan Ewen >* Timo Walther >* Yann Byron (Bi Yan) >* Yu Li >* Zelin Yu > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jingsong Lee be appointed >to the office of Vice President, Apache Paimon, to serve in accordance >with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the >Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal >or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it >further > >RESOLVED, that the Apache Paimon Project be and hereby is tasked with >the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Paimon >podling; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator >Paimon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter >discharged. > >--- > >Best Regards, >Yu (on behalf of the Apache Paimon PPMC) > >[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/hr3d7tpw02w6ybrnnlf3hcbhfxotwpvn >[2] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/paimon.html >[3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/oys8mqjkpz266nvw7kdf7b6b5nwhkkh1 >[4]
