RE: Project idea
The Mckoi site is at http://www.mckoi.com/database, the owners are at http://www.iglou.com/adiehl. They menion in the FAQ that the license is GPL but 'you wish to use the database under a different license then contact us for further details'. Anybody feels lucky and want to give them a call ;-) Tal > -Original Message- > From: David Duddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Project idea > > > > There is a pretty good Java SQL Relational DB called Mckoi, but the darn > thing is GPL and I have sent about 6 emails trying to get them to > change the > license to an ASL or equivalent, but I have had no luck. They won't even > change to LGPL. > > hsql Database on sourceforge has a good license and works well for small > projects, but I don't know if I would trust it for anything important. > Hopefully it will pick up some momentum. > > I know Jetspeed (a Jakarta project) uses Hypersonic SQL (now hsql > Database), > or at least used it the last time I check which was a long time > ago. I would > love to see a solid Java RDBMS under a business friendly license. Maybe > someday ;-) > > -david > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Project idea > > > > > > > > Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java > > relational data base ? > > > > If not, a project like that will be a great > > addition to the Jakarta family. > > > > > > Tal > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Project idea
At 01:28 10.06.2001 -0700, Tal Dayan wrote: >The Mckoi site is at http://www.mckoi.com/database, the owners are at >http://www.iglou.com/adiehl. >They menion in the FAQ that the license is GPL but 'you wish to use the >database under a different >license then contact us for further details'. Anybody feels lucky and want >to give them a call ;-) > >Tal It looks like they are leveraging the infectious nature of the GPL to force companies to buy Mckoi for commercial use. So much for freedom. Cheers, Ceki >> -Original Message- >> From: David Duddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:58 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: Project idea >> >> >> >> There is a pretty good Java SQL Relational DB called Mckoi, but the darn >> thing is GPL and I have sent about 6 emails trying to get them to >> change the >> license to an ASL or equivalent, but I have had no luck. They won't even >> change to LGPL. >> >> hsql Database on sourceforge has a good license and works well for small >> projects, but I don't know if I would trust it for anything important. >> Hopefully it will pick up some momentum. >> >> I know Jetspeed (a Jakarta project) uses Hypersonic SQL (now hsql >> Database), >> or at least used it the last time I check which was a long time >> ago. I would >> love to see a solid Java RDBMS under a business friendly license. Maybe >> someday ;-) >> >> -david >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: Project idea >> > >> > >> > >> > Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java >> > relational data base ? >> > >> > If not, a project like that will be a great >> > addition to the Jakarta family. >> > >> > >> > Tal >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ceki Gülcü - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jakarta logo
Hi, Can anybody tell want the font name that is used in Jakarta Logo is? - Kasper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sometimes you need to throw the fish back...
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Sean Legassick wrote: >> >>Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> The other being a potential >>>regression in reflection/security found in Scarab. I say potential >>>regression as I don't know yet if it is a security hole that has been >>>closed, a tightening up of checks that prior JDKs were lax on, or a bug. >>>In any case, the project is not an Apache one and the owners do not seem >>>predisposed to pursue it... >> >>The problem, however, is with use of the Texen tool which is a part of >>Velocity, and the problem would occur with any use of that tool... > >So we now have a volunteer? ;-) Cool! Yeah I don't mind looking over it when I get a chance... I'm quite good on reflection stuff... > The first is the interface changes to java.sql. While these apparently > were approved internally, I don't think anybody fully realized the scope > of the impact of these changes. I still think new interfaces should be > defined, probably extending the original ones, and both sets supported. +1 on pushing for that. Sean -- Sean Legassick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeg er mann: Ingenting menneskelig er fremmed for meg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta logo
On 6/10/01 11:50 AM, "Kasper Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Can anybody tell want the font name that is used in Jakarta Logo is? > > - Kasper Looks like ITC Officina San Bold to me. I think it's an Adobe font. I have it somewhere on a Type Foundry CD if you want something in type made. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- jvz. http://tambora.zenplex.org http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria http://jakarta.apache.org/commons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Project idea
Here are more points to consider when evaluating canidates and when defining the project goals: * 100% Java (of course) * Copyright clearance (including any required third party components) * Supports both server/multi-clients mode and embedded configuration * Reasonable performance and scalability * Transactional * Flexible data storage (not too restrictive limitation on row and cell sizes). * Easy migration to/from popular data bases You can find a list of existing Java data bases at http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Languages/Java/Database-Related/ (I found it following Mike Dougherty's pointers, thanks Mike). Tal > -Original Message- > From: Cory L Hubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 3:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Project idea > > > I think it's time for it as well. Oracle, DB2, Sybase are > planning on > cashing in even bigger now. The .com crazy is over and people > are going to > start to develop and market information rich websites and services that > reach out to cell phones/PDA's etc. > > There hasn't been much innovation going on in the > Relational DB world. > It'd be nice to see an Open Source project catch up, innovate, and > outperform the Big Name DB vendors. > An Open Source java DB by a trusted Open Source Name > (Apache) would allow > anyone to have a high end database solution without being a big > money making > enterprise. > > Obviously I think this is a good idea. Why don't we > create a list for > Open Source DB's to evaluate? Also some criteria. > I've already mentioned. > > 1. Object or Object/Relational DB. > 2. Support for SQL/OQL > 3. Support for the SUN JDO spec. > > -Original Message- > From: David Duddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Project idea > > > > There is a pretty good Java SQL Relational DB called Mckoi, but the darn > thing is GPL and I have sent about 6 emails trying to get them to > change the > license to an ASL or equivalent, but I have had no luck. They won't even > change to LGPL. > > hsql Database on sourceforge has a good license and works well for small > projects, but I don't know if I would trust it for anything important. > Hopefully it will pick up some momentum. > > I know Jetspeed (a Jakarta project) uses Hypersonic SQL (now hsql > Database), > or at least used it the last time I check which was a long time > ago. I would > love to see a solid Java RDBMS under a business friendly license. Maybe > someday ;-) > > -david > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Project idea > > > > > > > > Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java > > relational data base ? > > > > If not, a project like that will be a great > > addition to the Jakarta family. > > > > > > Tal > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Project idea
Once we get Lucene moved over, maybe we can get the hsql project moved to Jakarta also. It would be a huge step forward for data management on Jakarta. -david > -Original Message- > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Project idea > > > > Here are more points to consider when evaluating canidates > and when defining the project goals: > > * 100% Java (of course) > * Copyright clearance (including any required third party components) > * Supports both server/multi-clients mode and embedded configuration > * Reasonable performance and scalability > * Transactional > * Flexible data storage (not too restrictive limitation on row and cell > sizes). > * Easy migration to/from popular data bases > > > You can find a list of existing Java data bases at > http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Languages/Java/Database-Related/ > (I found it following Mike Dougherty's pointers, thanks Mike). > > Tal > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Cory L Hubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 3:04 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Project idea > > > > > > I think it's time for it as well. Oracle, DB2, Sybase are > > planning on > > cashing in even bigger now. The .com crazy is over and people > > are going to > > start to develop and market information rich websites and services that > > reach out to cell phones/PDA's etc. > > > > There hasn't been much innovation going on in the > > Relational DB world. > > It'd be nice to see an Open Source project catch up, innovate, and > > outperform the Big Name DB vendors. > > An Open Source java DB by a trusted Open Source Name > > (Apache) would allow > > anyone to have a high end database solution without being a big > > money making > > enterprise. > > > > Obviously I think this is a good idea. Why don't we > > create a list for > > Open Source DB's to evaluate? Also some criteria. > > I've already mentioned. > > > > 1. Object or Object/Relational DB. > > 2. Support for SQL/OQL > > 3. Support for the SUN JDO spec. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Duddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:58 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Project idea > > > > > > > > There is a pretty good Java SQL Relational DB called Mckoi, but the darn > > thing is GPL and I have sent about 6 emails trying to get them to > > change the > > license to an ASL or equivalent, but I have had no luck. They won't even > > change to LGPL. > > > > hsql Database on sourceforge has a good license and works well for small > > projects, but I don't know if I would trust it for anything important. > > Hopefully it will pick up some momentum. > > > > I know Jetspeed (a Jakarta project) uses Hypersonic SQL (now hsql > > Database), > > or at least used it the last time I check which was a long time > > ago. I would > > love to see a solid Java RDBMS under a business friendly license. Maybe > > someday ;-) > > > > -david > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Project idea > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java > > > relational data base ? > > > > > > If not, a project like that will be a great > > > addition to the Jakarta family. > > > > > > > > > Tal > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
